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Pokémon Legends Arceus Does NOT Get Enough Credit
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Having recently completed Pokémon Legends Arceus, one of the latest installments of the franchise, I've come to the conclusion that this game was one of the greatest in it's line to date. It's no less than a great addition to the series and has many things to show for it. Surprisingly however, despite the many liberties taken by Game Freak to make this game as good as it turned out to be, it still gets a lot of unwarranted criticism in areas that it actually did quite well in. So in today's video, I'll be talking about Pokémon Legends Arceus and why it doesn't get nearly enough credit as it deserves.
Please enjoy and thank you for watching!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:54 - Why Legends Arceus is So Good
02:41 - Comparing Arceus to BDSP
04:08 - Addressing the Criticisms
12:06 - Outro
Legends is a HUGE step in the right direction and I hope future games do what Legends did well.
Absolutely man, there isn't another Pokémon game like it AT ALL. I really hope they continue making games like this or maybe even make Legends into its own series
Considering how vastly different a lot of the 'similar' mechanics are between ScaVio and LA, and the fact that there isn't a lot of overlap between the developers, I genuinely think that we won't see the changes enacted by fan response to LA until Generation 10. ScaVio doesn't really feel like it was made after LA. It feels like its clunky cousin.
A game like Legends: Kyurem where we finally find out what the original dragon looked like would be fucking lit.
I would absolutely love that man they NEED to make more Legends games. This game would have so much potential as an ongoing series and they could touch on a whole bunch of lore 100%
Note: The original dragon is not Kyurem. Kyurem is a shell thats leftover from when Reshiram and Zekrom split, the original dragon is an all New pokemon
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People literally stopped acknowledging Legends Arceus existed when SV released and started acting like the last game was BDSP with the sheer amount of hatemongering and declaration that Game Freak didn't care anymore. This game's incredible. Thank you.
Glad I'm not the only one who understands this 🙏 SV released so soon after Arceus that people pretty much forgot about the LA immediately. That plus all the glitches and whatnot SV released with made so many people think Game Freak was falling off when that was never the case.
Well the way I've seen it they've "fallen off" but not in the way everyone accuses them of. They have good ideas and are able to put them to code, but SV in particular was fucked over by TPC's schedule more than anything. The "small indie company" argument, mocked though it may be, is true... it's small because it's still run by the same people as 30 years ago, who are stubborn about changing their methods even with the increasingly tightening demands. That's the issue.
The only reason why everyone moved on so quickly is because of the competitive scene.
(Arceus doesn’t have much player 2 player content). I genuinely think if they had a competitive/matchmaking, it would have absolutely dominated
No, Scarlet and Violet is the byproduct of Legends Arceus and BDSP failure. Making Scarlet and Violet a success in comparison despite its few glitches, there was no reason to forward the remake games to another company just for them to ruin them and once you see legends Arceus you realize this is what BDSP could have been and more. All of what these are could have literally out done Scarlet and Violet but instead prove they don't respect remakes anymore after ORAS which was an amazing remake so how could our expectations not be high and it wasn't hard to accomplish either.
@@PJ92586 ORAS. Respecting remakes. Please pick one.
As someone that actually just straight up miss all of the gen 4 games, I consider this my introduction to sinnoh, it's history, story, and of course, it's pokemon. It's not perfect but it was as close as it could have been, great video, well said on all points!
Most definitely, as a game it was probably their best yet, great choice on your part for making this your first exposure to all the gen 4 lore. Thanks for the kind words 🙏 I'm glad you enjoyed!
*WE DON'T USE THE WORD ITS AS A PRONOUN IF THERE'S AN APOSTROPHE IN IT!*
@Amelia 411 For the second sentence, right? Then it should have been "It isn't perfect..." instead? Guess I need to brush up on grammar, I'm sorry you had to yell :(
I wish we get more legends game in the future …
Same same, I would love to get Legends games based in the other regions. I think it's definitely possible since they did hint that the other regions like Galar and Johto were still around during the events of Legends Arceus. Let's hope they follow through though
@@TensaShinra maybe a Alola one where we get to see the stories of all Ultra Beasts with the Ultra Wormhole concept etc.
I honestly do NOT care what anybody says, Legends: Arceus is THE best Pokemon game ever made.
This right here 👆 VALID.
Hahaha nah
Agreed
@@ktralo3813 Ooh someone's angry
I agree, i am a big fan and it’s my favorite game but i think they could have done a few things better.
Legends Arceus is an underrated game. Just misunderstood and not appreciated because of graphics and glitches.
Most definitely, it's not perfect but it's still a pretty great game for the Pokémon franchise. Honestly one of the best in my opinion for sure.
compared to SV, LA had no glitches. SV crashed my switch multiple times, LA never did
@@Matty002 Sorry that's been happening to you. I haven't experienced any crashes or glitches since I got SV but I have experienced lag in LA numerous times.
I will never forgive Scarlet/Violet for taking the spotlight from Legends Arceus so whickly. This game deserved more time, more attention and more promotion.
It’s the best Pokémon game on the Switch and I’m so salty we’ll not get any DLC or anyhting else that continues the story in Hisui.
Absolutely man, I always found it off-putting how soon S&V came out after Legends Arceus, especially with how ambitious it was. They took it off the burner way too early and gave it no significant amount of time to build up attention. I would've loved to see them give LA more content with dlc or something along those lines.
@@TensaShinra At the very least Hisui content was just added to Pokémon Masters EX, which a lot if ppl were doubtful was even going to happen.
The game’s not for everyone’s taste, what with it being a gacha and all, but I do appreciate what they do with the trainer characters there, letting them interact with others more and giving them new stories to participate in.
I said this about Legends Arceus, because I feel most strongly about it in that regard, but I also just generally dislike how Gamefreak gives us such fun characters, only for them to be mostly relevant in a single game with maybe a cameo or two in any future titles, before quickly moving on to a brand new place, with brand new people who will also not be around for long after.
Pokemon Arceus is the one pokemon game I play and it's by far my favorite by a long shot
I feel that man rightfully so, they did Pokémon a lot of justice with that game
I was spoiled on the post game story about Volo because my cousin got so frustrated at losing to him that she gave me her switch and told me to try my hand at it. She literally threw me into the game with no knowledge of what was going on and how the slightly new updated battle mechanics worked (and I didnt know what typing some of the hisuian forms were). But I battled him and won leaving her to fight I think Giratina lol
Same I had no idea post game was even a thing and ended up getting spoiled by RUclips recommendations while I was working on this video, trust me you're not alone lol 😂
Once I saw someone say this recently, the realization hit me like a brick - PLA is literally the closest that we have now to a Pokémon Ranger game.
WOW that brings back memories. It sounds crazy to think about, but that's actually true lol.
What tells me that this was a good game is that I never stopped playing it until all was done.
I dont care about some texture or something else because I wholeheartedly enjoyed the game which is what I play games for.
Nowadays the internet is way too critical sometimes and hates things into the ground without giving themselves the chance to enjoy something. And thats sad.
I couldn't have said it better, I'll admire the game regardless of what anyone says or what flaws it has. It's just a good game, one that I can tell the developers put a lot of effort into, and nobody can take that away from it.
Honestly, the biggest thing I miss from LoA that felt like a step back in SV was Wild Pokemon attacks. I like that they target the player and you don't get forced into a battle unless you throw a pokemon out.
Same! I would love it if they implemented that into more of their games, it would make certain routes and caves a lot less tedious to go through.
@@TensaShinra True. Good luck getting out of a narrow cave without being forced into a battle with an arena trap Dugtrio. Not even worth the slight inconvenience.
You can pretty much blame all the hate towards this game on a RUclipsr called Verlisify. He has pretty much a one tracked hatred mindset towards this game.
Sheesh I've never actually heard of him but he definitely has quite the following and does make a lot of Pokémon content. I can see how he would be able to sway a lot of people's opinions on the game for the worse. What exactly were his thoughts on it?
I wouldn't say it's all verlis's fault as people caught on to the blatant lies and misinformation he was spewing about the game, which completely destroyed what credibility he had left. I'd say it's moreso GF's reputation and people expecting too much from them. Personally I think if LA had another year or so in the oven to be more polished, it would have been received better.
You are gonna blow up for sure, this editing is elite and the relaxing commentating was just so nice to hear. Very entertaining thank you
Thanks so much for the kind words, it means a lot 🙏 I'm really glad you enjoyed the video
My amendment for the research tasks would be to have more Pokemon specific tasks. There are plenty of tasks related to side quests in the game. Those were unique and a lot more fun than using the same move 40+ times (requiring endless trips back to camp to recover power points).
Or at least make the task counters way smaller (no larger than 10) so that you don’t have to spend hours on just one Pokemon. There’s definitely potential there to make the task system enjoyable. It just didn’t manage to do so this time around.
I don’t really understand the “barren, lifeless world” comments. You are literally in a land that is vastly uninhabited. People haven’t been there for that long, so yeah, it’s gunna be a lot of wilderness. Heck, they even call it a “vast wilderness” in the first teaser trailer. What were people expecting? And like you said, the Pokédex, the quests, finding the unown and wisps, they all give you something to do out there. More to do than SV by far. 😬
This exactly 👏 even in the story, they constantly emphasize that people at that point in time had a fear of Pokémon and didn't live in harmony with them. The villagers weren't just gonna be roaming about hisui or anything lol, I don't get why people don't understand that. Definitely much better of an open world than S&V and their other 3D games.
@@TensaShinra "pla doesnt have enough trainer battles" being a trainer is barely a fucking concept in PLA
The catching mechanic makes it better than any other Pokémon game ever period regardless of everything else it lacks.
i am very shocked that this channel doesn't even have 300 subs! the editing quality is really good, and i definitely agree with your points. the fact that game freak split in two to produce this and scarvio is very..... not good. on multiple levels. i completed what little post game there is in less than one day, and i'm STILL trying to complete post game in legends (the genies are so fucking hard and it's a struggle as i'm disabled, but even then the disability accommodation for pla is better than scarvio. different rant for a different video [especially as a colorblind shiny hunter.. yeesh])
the story isn't the best, but the lack of perfection with the story was definitely made up for in the gameplay and replayability factor. that's something game freak has been lacking in for years, and ESPECIALLY as a huge sinnoh fan, this game just felt... amazing. the story wasn't perfect, but this was a change to a very repetitive formula that was well needed. most people seem to hate it because of it not being the ✨brand new pokemon game ✨as it seems, as scarlet and violet didn't give pla a CHANCE to have proper fans. i hope people do come to these same conclusions in the video, you know what's good with pla, and it's one of the 2 s ranked games imo. (platinum being the other, lol)
tl;dr: your video editing is good, and i wish people had more of your opinion
Glad you liked the video and I really appreciate the kind words! No need for tl;dr lol, I read the whole comment and loved it 🙏 I'm also a HUGE sinnoh fan and it's actually my favorite gen, so what they did with PLA left me very satisfied. I wholeheartedly agree that a lot of the choices they made with Scarvio ended up bringing Legends down unfortunately, but it still turned out as a great game despite production being split and it doesn't get enough credit for that imo. Fingers crossed more people will come around and realize that like you said.
(P.s. great taste with platinum being your other s ranked game lol)
Thank you for this video. PLA is the best thing to happen to Pokémon in years and the sales showed that. Too bad S/V same our shortly after and eclipsed it. Why Gamefreak split in two to develop this and S/V I have no idea.
Glad you enjoyed! Agreed, I'll never understand why Game Freak decided to split for development like that, especially when Legends Arceus was advertised as such an ambitious project. It could've had a much better run if they gave it all of their attention and didn't release S&V so soon after.
@@TensaShinraits not the first time gamefreak has split their development team. They have always done this, where they have an A team and a B team. I think probably starting from gen 4 or gen 3, heartgold and soul silver which was made by I think 20 or so developers along side gen 5, gen 5, gen 6, oras, gen 7, gen 8, gen 8 dlc, legends, and gen 9 were all where gamefreak split their team into two. They have probably are working on gen 10 as we speak probably since the fall of 2022. Just like gamefreak started development on gen 8 when they released sun and moon in the fall of 2016, and gen 9 started development when gen 8 was releasing in 2019, and legends arceus started development in the fall of 2018. So gamefreak splitting up their team doesn’t surprise me.
I have absolutely no clue how Game Freak goes from the extremely mid/borderline bad SwSh to the stellar Legends Arceus back to the awful Scarlet/Violet. PLA legitimately feels like it comes from another timeline (heh) with how innovative, touching, and aesthetic the game is. PLA captures this amazing 19th century woodcut/watercolor aesthetic so wonderfully, really capitalizing on the Switch's less powerful hardware by making the muddied graphics intentional. This is a far cry from SwSh and especially SV.
Not to mention the actual gameplay, the crafting, the Pokémon animations, the stories. Everyone talks about the dog Pokémon from SV as a good side story, but PLA is full of them! The Chimecho who just wants to fit in, the Wurmple who grows into a Dustox but is still loved, the entire village's growth from fearing Pokémon to farming, working, living, and playing alongside them. You actually make a tangible difference in the world around you for the first time in a Pokémon game. Sure it lacks the multiplayer and competitive aspects like online battles, breeding, etc. but the single player experience only benefits from it.
Also something I never hear mentioned: you can completely the entire dex, with mythicals (granted you have the games necessary), without trading or time gated events. No other mainline game EVER has allowed this.
PLA is a phenomenal entry in the series, easily the best Pokémon game of the last decade and possibly the greatest ever.
THANK YOU!! There's so much to love about this game, yet I mostly just hear about how it's not good enough. It wasn't even given time to gain more attention with how soon SV came out after it. These few points alone solidify it as a great Pokémon game, and there's so much more you haven't even mentioned at all.
And I couldn't agree more with your point about the dex, it's SO nice to be able to complete it without having to trade, especially this day in age where you have to pay for online features. People too often overlook the good that came from that lack of multiplayer aspects. I can only imagine how happy it made some completionists who prefer a single-player experience.
this was prolly one of the best review videos i've ever seen, you illustrated your points so well
I appreciate the kind words truly, glad you enjoyed the video and I was able to convey my points well enough 🙏
I love PL:A not only because of the gameplay and being able to explore a region in the past, but because you can clearly see how Game Freak was using it as a test bed and stepping stone from Sword & Shield's Wild Area and Isle of Armor/Crown Tundra DLC open areas, to Scarlet and Violet's completely open world design. Watching the progression of their understanding of the Switch hardware has been a trip, even if the stumbling blocks and hurdles are ones that better companies have tackled decades ago.
Honestly, this is a step in the right direction, and GF really was/is held back from taking said steps sooner because of the hardware the company they work with chooses to use as a platform. That's not to say that GF is blameless for all the mishaps, and TPCI's merchandising rotation for the entire franchise does not help in any way, but we would have been seeing these steps for the core games a long time ago if this franchise was on PlayStation or Xbox or PC, and I would dare anyone to try to say otherwise on that point.
I completely agree, there's definitely some missed beats that could've been nailed in many ways, but all things considered the game still turned out pretty well. I love to see that they've been learning from their older games to make the newer ones better. Now all that's left is for Nintendo and GF to step it up a notch like you said.
This game was one of the most fun games I've ever played! As a 20 year fan of Pokemon, this is what I waited for. Hopefully, they'll make another 1 and add a few features.
Ayee nice, I've been a fan for almost as long, so I'm right there with you on that! I would absolutely love if they made another one of these, fingers crossed it happens.
I personally rather like the research system. You actually have to USE and INTERACT with the Pokemon to learn about them... its like you're actually documenting info about them rather than your Pokedex magically knowing everything about them instantly.
Same I love the research system, I really don't get the hate for it lol. It's a lot more interesting this way and gives you so much more to do in the game. It makes a lot more sense too.
after *let's go* games i expected graphics(model, texture arts, shading, lighting) to improve further. cliffs and large body of water looks terrible form medium distance. especially when you are flying this becomes visible.
other than that, i think the story was ok, gameplay was *amazing* . catching pokemon never felt this exciting. for someone who hates shallow, boring pokemon battles, i love the fact they toned down battling and replaced it with boss battle. 1v1 confrontation with a novel pokemon was the most exciting part of the gameplay for me.
Yeah I definitely see where you're coming from with the graphics, that's one thing that I do think they should've had the experience to improve upon for sure. I'm right there with you on the battles though, I loved how different they were from the norm and it felt way more engaging
I have a question: Which should i play? Legends Arceus or BDSP or Let's Go? Considering I am a returning player after playing up to platinum in my childhood, I returned and played Violet, so i am open to the new games but have a lot of nostalgia towards gen 4 (and gen 1 for that matter)
@@Lior621 if you are looking for something very different within pokemon world, try "legend arceus". among BDSP and "let's go" games, "let's go" is clearly better (with a lil twist that i won't spoil). BDSP is the last thing i would suggest form that list.
Agreed, you'll probably want to stray away from BDSP unless the idea of a bad remake doesn't bother you too much. Let's go would be great if you prefer something closer to the usual style of a Pokémon game, and Legends Arceus is a little different but still feels at home and is a great experience imo. Both Let's Go and Legends will definitely scratch that nostalgia itch since they're based in Kanto and Sinnoh respectively, so I'd say go for whichever region you have more nostalgia for honestly
To me Arceus as well as SV are very good entrees into this franchise. Perfect? No. Fun? Yes. I dare say these games make my top five favorite Pokémon games of all time currently.
Though I do wish they weren’t released so close to each other.
Let people soak up Arceus more while pushing SV back a bit to release a less buggy game (though I’m less critical of bugs because I love bugs a lot, as long as they don’t cause damage to the save or crash me). Overall I think Gen 9 will be looked back on as a great generation (eventually) that had a messy release schedule. I have my issues with it but I love this Gen a lot.
I've been saying this too! It would've been a lot better for Game Freak to spread Arceus and SV apart a little more for those exact reasons.
One could've gotten a little more attention while the other could've released in a better state. Both SV and LA could've been better, but I agree they were still great games and Gen 9 will hold up pretty well.
I hope they make another and i hope they make all pokemon catchable. They can keep the legendary pokemon legendary by making them challenging to catch. Mew. Celebii. All of them.
Same I would love that. If they continue making these games, they'll only get better and better.
Is it my favorite? No. Did it bring back 90% of what I loved about the series? Absolutely. Is it my favorite pokemon game since explorers of sky? Yes. Between this and Scarlet and Violet, I think Gamefreak is on the right track for once.
I didn’t like Gen 7 and I only enjoyed the Gen 8 post game. I’m not praising the new games just to praise the new games. I like that they added new evolutions for once. (SS barely did this with sirfetched and persecker) In LOA we got absolute bangers like ursaluna, overquil and Basculegion. The only “mid” introduction was Electrode, and it’s no worse than the original.
Right on the money with this reply, I completely agree. LOA isn't my favorite and could definitely be better, but it does a really good job of innovating and bringing something different to the table for once.
Their recent games have been pretty decent, but there was a time when they were always experimental, and because of that we got a lot of quality games that weren't just the usual formula with slight changes like mystery dungeon, ranger, etc.
I don't think I've ever gotten lost in a game like the first time I played PLA. I went to the first area and spent somewhere around 3~ hours straight just roaming and catching pokémon. It absolutely had the potential to be the best game in the franchise, but by the end I was left wanting. It pads out its runtime by making you get stars, and when I look back I remember the story beats-not the researching-so it feels too short. Hopefully when it gets a second installment they'll devote more resources to it and it can get a treatment comparable to what Scarlet and Violet had.
I definitely understand this point of view. It would have been a lot better if they didn't limit story progression with the research system. I feel like I personally didn't have a problem with it since it was the other way around for me, and I actually got into the story before the exploration. So by the time I had to do research to progress the story, there was still a lot left for me to explore. But I agree, it would've for sure been better if they never limited the story with the research system so that people wouldn't run into that problem, and hopefully they'll learn from it if they continue making Legends games.
Legends Arceus was Breath of the Wild for babies.
It’s me. I’m babies.
Same here lmao
I say all the time ARCEUS and PokeMMO are the closest we will get to the Pokémon experience that we all wanted as kids
Most definitely, I really hope we get more games like them in the future
@@TensaShinra playing Arceus is so bittersweet because I have no idea if they will continue the legends series
the only reason i agree with legends arceus (arkoos) being the best is because the shaymin species is still real and they havent gone pretty much extinct and locked behind an event
Great video man. LA definitely had its flaws but I was able to overlook them and I had a blast. I had put in more hours in this game than I had in any other Pokémon game. All in all, I hope they make more legends games in the future!
Appreciate it man, glad you enjoyed! We're definitely in the same boat, I would absolutely love to see more Legends games down the line and hope they follow through with it.
I hope the hate this game got does not discourage Gamefreak from making another legends game.
Same honestly, I genuinely believe they have a chance to make this series even better if they continue to pursue it. It did come out great despite them working on S/V at the same time after all.
I personally enjoyed it, a new but familiar world and choosing Pokémon I don’t normally use and using new forms and Pokémon evolution! The story and challenges were great
Same! I understand why people didn't like it, but in my opinion it was great and I really hope we get more games like it in the future, they'll definitely improve if they do
I like and agree with how you pronounce Hisui. 👍🏾
Thanks I appreciate it man 🙏🏾 I had no idea that people pronounced it differently lol
legends is better than scarlet and violet. I really hope we get a sequel to pokemon legends, it wasn't perfect but the atmosphere, the music and the lore was awesome. Also loved the graphics, and the characters actually looked like they were straight out of the anime. The cities, graphics and NPCs in S/V are weird and lifeless.
Agreed, I would love a sequel. If they decide to continue, it would be a perfect opportunity to go even deeper into the lore of the Pokémon world while also branching away from the usual formula that they haven't been nailing super well recently.
I actually stopped playing Scarlet to go back and finish Legends Arceus because I missed the feel and visuals of the game so much. Don't get me wrong Scarlet was fun, but it didn't feel like it had nearly as much passion and care put into it as Legends did.
Completely agree man, both were good but Legends just felt like the devs really wanted to make a great open-world game that branched out from the norm while still feeling like Pokémon. I could tell they really wanted to make it something special.
This and New Pokemon Snap need DLC way more than Scarlet and Violet. They really do.
Absolutely man, they have everything they need to implement some kind of DLC. I would love to see Legends Arceus get some new content.
This game wasn't perfect, but it is the most fun and innovative Pokemon has been! As of today, the game has sold almost 15 million copies, which is very impressive considering that it's a stand-alone game and not sold in pairs.
Yep, PLA is technically the best selling Pokémon game on the Switch. SwSh sold 25 million collectively, or about 12.5 mil individually assuming the split is 50/50. SV sold 22 million, or 11 mil individually. PLA is currently at 15~ million.
Agreed! It definitely has the potential to become even better and sell more copies too, if they make continue making Legends games. It's crazy to think it did that well independently.
People love to overexaggerate with Pokemon. None of the modern games look like Gale of Darkness at all, they're much more modern looking. Now don't get me wrong, I think that the Gamecube games have a lot more cohesive of an art style than most of the modern games, but that is not at all the same thing as looking the same or worse. I also think it's wrong to even call Legends Arceus an "open world" game when it's got a lot more in common with zone based games like Monster Hunter than it does any open world game.
Arceus wasn't at all perfect, and I can think of a lot of improvements I'd want, but it was the ray of hope I needed for the franchise's future. I even enjoyed Sword and Shield for what they were, but Legends Arceus showed me what is possible for the future of the series. Unfortunately, I got rudely slapped across the face with Scarlet and Violet being the most broken games in the franchise by a massive margin, and immediately wanted to return to a Legends style of game in nearly every way except competitively.
GameFreak needs to lean into Legends improvements and really build the next game into something special. We're coming up on Generation 10 and the 30th anniversary of the Franchise. If they really want to rebuild some of the faith they've lost with fans with some of the recent games, now is the time to do it. Rethink and rework any processes you have to GameFreak, it's now or never.
This is probably the best take I've seen yet, Arceus was definitely a step in a great direction. It wasn't perfect, but there was a lot to love about it for sure. I completely agree that if they take what they learned from that game in addition to what made some of their past games just as great, if not better, that Generation 10 could turn out some of the best games of all time.
Not even just for Pokémon standards either, they genuinely have the potential to be some of the best games on the switch. Let's just hope they deliver.
I love PLA with all my heart, I played Platinum on a emulator and I LOVED it, but as much as it hurts to say if Gamefreak makes a Legends type game with actual love about Unova its going to be the best pokemon game of all time.
I agree whole heartedly, if they put even more effort than what they did for LA into a game about Unova, I can't even imagine how great of a game that would turn out to be haha.
This game was absolutely fire!
Yessir! Loved every minute of it 🔥
Amazing and innovative game and way better than the laggy and buggy SV
After thoroughly playing both Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet, Legends Arceus is clearly the better Pokémon game. Not quite the GOAT Pokémon game, but definitely among the best.
Couldn't agree more. It's probably not the best given how many bangers Pokémon has had, but up there with the top tiers for sure.
I think Pokemon Legends Arceus should be compared to Xenoblade.
As they both are Nintendo games that are almost open world games and jrpgs.
The differences are pretty big.
Xenoblade is a polished diamond and Arceus is a rough diamond.
One was my childhood favourite saga and the other is my current favourite saga.
I wish Pokémon was treated with the same care as Xenoblade is.
That's actually a great comparison. I'm right there with you, I really wish the Pokémon games had better treatment. With the 30th anniversary in a couple years, now is the perfect time for them to start shifting gears.
Didn't reinvent the wheel? It sure as hell did for me. I *LOVE* this game. I pretty much refuse to play any traditional game from Gen 8 onwards, because the Legends style is where it's at for me. I love that Pokémon actually attack you and you can dodge and fight back either with your own Pokémon or stunning them with items, I love the concept of Alpha Pokémon and I *LOVE* that Shiny Hunting had become more accessible for filthy casuals like me. I caught several boxes worth of Shinies, man. The methods in the traditional games can suck it, because I do *NOT* have the patience for them.
Give me Legends: Celebi, Legends: Jirachi/Deoxys, Legends: Kyurem, there's *SO* much potential for developing the lore of other regions and answering questions that went over 20 years without an answer. We wanna see what the Legendary Beasts looked like prior to being resurrected by Ho-Oh, we wanna see the Original Unova Dragon, there's so much potential to explore!
Don't listen to what Charlie says. Most of what he says is rubbish.
Oh yeah most definitely. When I said didn't reinvent the wheel, I moreso meant the open world/turn-based genre. As a Pokémon game though, it was WAY different than anything we'd ever gotten before, and I absolutely love that!
I'm 100 percent with you on thinking they should continue creating this style of games. Like you said, there's SUCH a boatload of potential there that I genuinely hope they don't waste. Let's just keep our fingers crossed as tightly as possible!
I did like the idea of the game but I like having gyms and stuff the game was fun but I didn’t finish it I got bored at some point because I didn’t want to catch them all anymore lol still a good game tho
Lol yeah that's fair, I can see the catching getting repetitive 😂 I'm also with you on the gyms, those are some of the most fun parts about the Pokémon games. At least they had boss battles which were a decent replacement for gyms
@@TensaShinra I agree with that but I also felt like there was no point to building a team yk that’s my favorite part of the generic games is watching your team grow and seeing them get stronger as you challenge more powerful enemies like Cynthia even in bdsp she was very difficult to beat at times especially rematches
I personally believe that this was a prototype of the concept of how to make an open world feel realistic on a closed world scale in 3d. Sure GameCube did have a decent 3d games in coliseum and gale of darkness… but Arceus had Pokémon that interacted with you, the environment, and time. Really I feel Arceus is one have of a development of their future games. The other half is Scarlet and Violet.
Same, I definitely think they'll return to Legends in some way, shape, or form. It did pretty well for not being a mainline game, especially considering that they split the team in halves to develop Scarlet and Violet at the same time. I think they'll see that and give it another go for sure.
@@TensaShinra I see is a test…. A test on actual things necessary for large scale that they could do on small scale. Scartlet and Violet are tests on large scale concepts. I hope they can find a great synergy
My first games were gen 4, diamond and pearl. Before that I only collected the cards and watched the anime since I was three in 2000. I’ve have played the spin off games since 2006, 2007, or 2008. After gen 5, the 3d Pokémon games I liked the most are sun and moon, Oras, legends, scarlet and violet, and ultra sun and moon for some of the changes in story, and content that it has then sun and moon. I like x and y a little bit. There’s more that they could have done but for gamefreak’s first fully 3d game, x and y is decent. I believe gen 7 and Oras are better then x and y in content and for what the provide to the player.
Great video man 👍
Thanks as always man I really appreciate it 🙏
Great video 🎉 i really hope they make another legends game because its my absolute favorite. I really enjoyed agile & strong style and catching lots of Pokémon. I like how i needed to interact with Pokémon in different ways complete the pokedex. It made me happy to see a Pokémon often. 🎉
Glad you enjoyed!
Man i regret already getting SV. The only good about it is the multiplayer aspect.Gameplay was awful because of the constant frame drops and glitches 😢
Yeah I really wish it didn't release with so many bugs, I wouldn't have minded if they delayed it so it wouldn't come out so glitchy. It wouldn't have been a problem for them either since they had just released Legends Arceus 😔
its just an amazing game just like scvi imo but contrary to scvi this game has amazing graphics and a nice filled up world
Agreed! It's just an overall good looking game, definitely can't go wrong with it
The reason charlie is so harsh, is because it makes a more engaging video, it really doesnt matter what he actually believes, its more about the content. So take his review as an indicator of what to watch out for in his exaggerations on other more important topics.
Yeah I've noticed his tendency to overexaggerate things in his videos the more I've watched him, it's just crazy to me that he would be so harsh on a game as inoffensive as Legends Arceus even if it was just to make the video more engaging. He doesn't do it all the time after all, so I was really surprised when he did it here.
I think people are way too harsh on games these days. Game developement is NOT easy, its a very time consuming and difficult process that requires a lot of prior education, hard work, and teamwork between a large group of people. Yes, sometimes devs are lazy... but more often then not it has nothing to do with laziness, and everything to do with poor management and time constraints. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet is a buggy mess that somehow broke sales records. If the Pokemon dev team had more time to work on these games, and had more experience, the games would be way better.
In Pokemon Legends: Arceus' case, this was something entirely new. A new take on the Pokemon world, a new take on Pokemon gameplay... and an entirely new format of game that GameFreak has never even tried before. Its not perfect but it sure as heck is one of the most interesting and unique Pokemon games out there. This game is NOT what I would call lazy. Its one of the least lazy modern Pokemon games in our time.
I feel it deserves way more praise, because it was a lot of fun, and most importantly it was _new._ People shouldn't hate on this game because then it tells GameFreak that we don't like it, and they likely won't try doing this again. This game is honestly great, and the more support it gets the more likely we are to get more games like it!
Couldn't have said it any better, this game isn't perfect but it's absolutely not anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be. There's a difference between making excuses for a game and giving it proper credit, and all things considered, Legends Arceus turned out REALLY well.
It's fair to have some criticisms, but the keyword is SOME. Like you said, if people are too harsh, it's very likely that at some point GameFreak will stop taking it as criticism and start viewing it as complaining. Let's just hope they see the positive reviews and continue pursuing these types of games!
I mean, Gamefreak makes way more than enough money needed to easily afford to train their current staff to a higher degree or hire external staff who were already familiar with programming Switch/console games.
I didn't mention this in the video, but my take on that is simply throwing money at the problem doesn't really solve anything. They need passionate workers before anything, or we'll probably end up getting worse games in the future just because the people making it only care about getting paid and such.
Still the 2nd best Pokémon game I’ve ever played. I love this game. Gamefreak is amazing when they try. When they try…
Lmao true, definitely wish they could give us Pokémon games like this more often. They'd make a killing of it for sure
UNPOPULAR OPINION: PLA was mid I mean the performance and graphics were great but other than that its mid, story is bad IMO besides the endgame with Volo and Giritina, catching mons was fun at first and then became tedious and boring. the only thing ima give credit to PLA was was the wurmple side quest were you give a npc a wurmple and it evolves as you progress through the game I thought that was kind of neat. there is little to no online functionality making completing the dex to get arceus kind of pointless as you get it after you've completed everything with no use for it after. To me the game was great as a first run through but it has no replay value whatsoever. I honestly would just rather play any other Pokémon game even though most of the newer ones are a buggy mess at least there's replayability to them.
Yeah I definitely feel like the deciding factor in how much anyone enjoys the game is how much they go into it favoring the traditional Pokémon experience. I personally thought the story was pretty nice, and while I still love online functionality, I typically stray from that in Pokémon games nowadays just because of my personal distaste for Nintendo's online service. Based on that and a couple other things, Imo there is a good level of replayability to it, but I understand your point of view for sure.
We got pokemon masters to push forward its name for now uwu....
I haven't gotten the chance to play masters yet but I heard it's good! I know that they recently introduced Adaman and Irida though so let's keep our fingers crossed that masters builds more Legends Arceus hype lol 🤞
@@TensaShinra Arezu or Akari/Rei incoming :o
We all know its gonna be Volo soon. (Since 4th anniversary incoming on August.)
they say gamefreak doesnt care but the fandom did this game so dirty bro
Facts man I'll admit it wasn’t perfect but the fans were definitely overexaggerating how bad it was
Discussion on Pokemon games can easily become polarizing. I think its good to call out bad faith reviews so we can be more honest about the strengths and weaknesses of each Pokemon game.
Buuuuut I don't really agree with many of your points either.
Yes, this was Game Freaks first attempt at an open world style game (unless you count the Wild Area and DLC for Gen 8....), but I don't think this is a reason why the game is good. Its just an excuse for the state the game came out in. Its understandable to a degree. But Horizon Zero Dawn was Guerrilla Games' first open world too. The difference is obvious and I don't think we can dismiss the shortcomings of the game because it was their first attempt.
I don't watch penguinz0, but I get the sense his criticisms are a bit hyperbolic and not worth calling out. Can you see more than 3 Pokemon at a time? Yeah, sure. But is 5 much better? The core of the argument is that the draw distance does affect many aspects of the game including immersion. Maybe I'm being too sensitive to this argument, but you also did say "the mass outbreak feature which literally spawns a million Pokemon all around you" just after. I get that you do not literally mean a million spawn. And I think we can also understand the actual meaning when Charlie says "only 3 Pokemon spawn" too.
I also kind of disagree about the art direction. Sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all, so I will try not to call out anything specific like the trees. But on a technical level, Legends Arceus was not impressive at all. At best, I can say that the visuals never got in the way of my experience? But the poor visuals paired with the frame rate issues genuinely takes me out of the game, which is a shame.
The story is kind of hard to discuss. It wasn't impossible to follow, but it still had issues in my opinion. It was way too dialogue heavy, made gameplay feel linear, the writing wasn't that great, and overall the story was a bit too anime like for my taste. The "its for kids" argument doesn't make sense to me either. Kids will end up skipping the story whenever possible in my experience, which is ultimately what I ended up doing too. It was slow and boring. People can disagree on that. Just sharing my opinion.
Really though, there are gonna be unfair arguments about the game going either way. Again, its good to call out those arguments for being unfair, but I kinda feel unconvinced by what was said in this video. Not trying to hate on the video either. This is a complex topic with many points that could be argued in favor or against the game. I hope to see more good faith discussion like this video is trying to do.
Glad you think the video makes for a good discussion! I can definitely see some of your points there, and I honestly agree that most Pokémon discussions (especially concerning the games) tend to be very divided as far as opinions go. I always find it muchhh more productive to try to come to an understanding with the opposing side and try to see their point of view.
These types of conversations are large in part about perspective, so I always encourage people to voice their thoughts so I can better understand them. You and I might not necessarily agree on the story for example, but I do see where you're coming from. It's like you said, this topic can get very convoluted with many arguments to be made. I myself could talk about this alone for hours lol.
I even cut some of my own points out of the video just so it wouldn't be too long. There was a whole argument I had about how, in comparison, the first Uncharted game was also not incredible. How even in its own time, there were far more games with better reviews that ALSO held up better. Even with that, it's now regarded as one of the greatest franchises and all because it was given time to flourish, which could very well become the case for Legends if they continue to pursue the blueprint.
Overall, it's just something I love to hear different POV's on, especially when in good faith. I completely agree that more of these types of discourse would be nice to see.
@@TensaShinra I could talk about this for hours as well haha. I look forward to more discussions. Consider myself subscribed.
This is on an emulator right? The gameplay looks way too high res and the fps (could be interpolated) is obviously too high
Yep it's been emulated on Yuzu and has FPS mods applied. The game footage is from the channel NightmareVortex, definitely check them out if you're interested! They have videos where they show the game in 60 FPS and with HD textures and whatnot
What is the Best Pokémon game? Who cares? The possible answers are too complex. What Pokémon game has the biggest world? Best story? Most options? Least glitching? Best graphics? Wrong questions. What Pokémon game have you had the most fun playing? Good question. Mines is Legends by FAR! What’s the most annoying thing in recent Pokémon games? (Besides spamming A to skip cringe 4 year old kid dialogue) the most annoying thing is a wild Pokémon triggering a forced battle by simply walking in proximity of it. It’s annoying time wasting that kills the immersion of open world travel. Legends doesn’t do this annoyance and that alone puts it way above all Pokémon games including scarlet/violet.
I completely agree man, especially with the point about forced battles. It was such a fresh breath of air from constantly being thrown into encounters that you wanted no part of, constantly wasting money on repels and everything.
Always felt it was slightly above average.Which many seemed to agree with, but then they get mad when I rate ot 6.5/10 xD Seems 5/10 stopped being the average at some point.
Funnily enough I was just having a conversation about this the other day lol. A lot of people are starting to believe that anything below a 7 is a bad rating for some reason which I just can't understand 😂 but I agree, 6.5 is a valid rating for this game.
I like the game.
*Press X to doubt*
Legends arceus is both underappreciated and overrated. The game is great if what you like about pokemon is exploring the areas and catching, cataloging and analyzing pokemon. Its a step in the right direction and i appreciate it a ton but at the same time its got a shitload of issues people who like it tend to ignore. It looks...im not gonna sugarcoat it terrible, the story was middling, the animations and cutscenes where especially lazy with characters just walking into the scene like theyve been there all along and the town and its people feel extremely empty and almost robotic. The town doesnt feel like its alive which is weird because even Ocarina of time managed to achieve that feeling. The game is visibly unfinished and lacks content for people that dont really care about catching a shit ton of pokemon, so when compared to other Nintendo titles it just goes down without a fight as a 6/10 game NOT worth a whole 60 bucks. If it was finished and had like a year or 2 more in the Oven it couldve been one of pokemons greatest games ever but as it is, its a "step in the right direction" and nothing more
I respect your opinion, but you're essentially calling it a "terrible step in the right direction" which doesn't really make sense. It has to have SOME good qualities to be a step in the RIGHT direction. I wouldn't say it did more good than bad or vice-versa, and that people who like it are completely ignoring its problems. It's more so that the general player base just can't find a balance between criticism and praise. I know that the game isn't incredible, but both casuals and regular players of the series clearly agree that it brings some merit to the table. Saying that it's a horrible game to anyone except for Pokémon fans and that it's one of Nintendo's worst games is kind of disingenuous when there are definitely worse games on the switch without doubt. So no, it's not perfect. Pretending that it is will only lead to more half-baked games in the future. But all the same, pretending like it's an all around horrible game will lead them to thinking that there was nothing good about the game, and therefore won't consider pursuing similar projects any time soon. I would absolutely hate to see them backtrack on some of the great features that were introduced with this game.
I'd say it gets way too much credit
Just different perspectives I guess. Personally, I haven't seen anything but mediocre/bad ratings and reviews on it since finishing the game.
Facts
Idk, it feels kinda alright. The world is bland and uninteresting, there are no interrsting dungeons or puzzles. All the requests are really just uninteresting and stupid fetch quests.
But the game looks and feels great. It doesn't look as good as Let's Go, but it has very stylized and polished Graphics.
It's certainly the best game on switch tho. If it had a bit more to do that felt a bit more intertwined with the new catching mechanics, or the story was slimmed down a bit. Maybe reduce the cutscenes and put a bit more effort into making the world seem interesting, then youd have the best game since Black 2 and White 2.
Idk if I'd agree with the world and quests being uninteresting, but I respect it.
AGREE AGREE AGREE AGREE AGREE
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It's the only good mainline 3D pokemon game.
I'm still surprised it is a mainline game.
Same honestly, it just took far more advantage of its 3D format with how much there is to do and has way more depth than the other mainline 3D games imo
You give this game way too much credit, the number one problem with this game is the fact they gave us BDSP when they gave use legends Arceus around the same time based on the same region and the fact they purposely made BDSP bad so Legends stand out when they could have just done for BDSP what they did for Legends. This game come out of nowhere, it would have been better not to get BDSP as they did nothing special and nothing worth buying the game for while Legends was so different and unique with real effort that they should have did with BDSP. They pushed BDSP to another company when they should have done the remake themselves with what Legends Arceus could have been, makes no sense to make this game when the Diamond and Pearl remake was next like they couldn't be bothered yet here's Legends Arceus ruining Pokemon lore like they don't care because they don't. Point is Legends Arceus and BDSP should have been one in the same, for all the flaws both games have they could have been far less if they were one in the same, giving us a proper remake with an amazing twist to the story of the past and allowing us to experience the game the same way as Legends with the BDSP story involved and this would have blown all of the past remakes out of the water.
Any excuse not to do this isn't valid and the fact they keep making the excuses of "more powerful systems" has been used since handhelds were a thing. Now they have the power and the excuses remain the same, they even cut a huge margin of Pokemon to accomplish the "more room for more power" yet still not enough, the game is mainly empty like Sword/Shield but I'd excuse that if the game was more but it was the only thing good. The story makes no sense but it was a fun story and a fun spin but it wasn't worth the sacrifice of a genuine remake. I stand by my statement and you all can love this game but i feel robbed and my money wasted, and i am sorry for venting my opinion because I know i sound whinny but i wanted years for D/P remake to get this crap then followed up on "better" crap in my opinion so I'm sad.
No worries I completely understand what you mean. As someone who started with Gen 4, to this day, I still feel robbed with what we got from those remakes. It's my favorite Gen, and it's a shame that it didn't get better treatment.
I agree that BDSP should have been what Legends Arceus was and more. It's just that for me, I was still able to enjoy these revisits to Sinnoh despite everything because of how much I love it and how much they put into Arceus. To me, it was as close to what we should've gotten to BDSP. Of course, no matter what good there was to find in BDSP and Legends, they both still could've been much better, so I'll respect your opinion and won't try to change your mind because I thought the same way at a point too. I feel like most Gen 4 fans are on a similar boat.
@@TensaShinra Thank you, I appreciate your opinion, I just want to forget BDSP exist and just focus on Legends Arceus. I just wish it was better than what we got, not sure why they decided on a game that doesn't follow the lore of what they already gave us. Feels dishonest, like they don't care.
This revives sinnoh before BDSP trash
It's such a shame man, BDSP could've been so much better
@@TensaShinra I am fucking scared about Unova remakes
Arceus was made with love, scarlet and violet was made with money in mind
Yep it definitely feels that way with the state Scarlet and Violet released in, not to mention how soon it was released after Arceus
I say this shit all the time
You and me both my man, this game has been way too slept on
Of all the wrong opinions to have..
no offense but it just wasnt very enjoying for me, but it was a nice and fun experience. Compared to sword and shield though i prefer sword and shield.
Yeah that's fair honestly, everyone has their own tastes. I can definitely see why people would like sword and shield more though, that was a pretty great game all around and I really liked the story
Sword and shield is fire. Especially with the DLC
Oh dope, I haven't played the DLC yet but if it's fire I'm definitely gonna have to give it a try
@@swishersweets727 the dlc made them Meh.
1. Gamefreak has 0 excuse for there Games being rushed and unfinished as they are. They own a huge amount of the Pokemon franchise, not the Pokemon company. They have the richest franchise sitting on there laps. So if they would care...They could buy 100 qualified developers with knowledge no problem. But they don't. So this point is not true.
2. If the expectaion of it being comparable to other tripple A games is false ... why does it cost the same as every other tripple A game? But this just counts for the entire franchise...Pokemon will never be good. Or close of what the fans deserve from a Franchise this big.
Luckily there are really good alternatives. But people don't play them because it doenst trigger there nostalgia. Which is so sad.
I decided not to bring up that point in the video, but my counterpoint to that is simply throwing their money at the problem doesn't solve anything for them. That would arguably make the game feel even more lifeless. First and foremost, they need to have the passion and be willing to put effort into making a great game before hiring soulless workers that could care less about the product and how it turns out. There are games with a much lower budget that are a million times better just because they had the passion to make them good. The fact that they could have just skipped this and put more effort into scarlet & violet means that they're at least being open minded to new formulas which is 100% a good thing and a step in a great direction.
As for the price tag, that's more of a Nintendo thing than anything else, seeing as they're the publishers and they're not exactly known for being generous with their prices.
You're absolutely right that with the money they have, they could make an insanely crazy experience, but that's not what most people play Pokémon for. They prefer the simpler turn-based experience that has become the norm in their mainline games, which is why despite Arceus being such a step up, it didn't sell as much as even some of their older games. Pokémon has always been at the very least "good," and if people only liked the franchise for the nostalgia factor, it would've fallen off a long time ago.
@@TensaShinra Yeah you're right. Its just sad that fans are satisfied so easily imo at least.
Yeah I feel you, I'm the kind of fan who would LOVE to see newer and bigger projects from them instead of the same old thing. I'm just glad they at least seem to be open to change for now
Is good for a pokemon game overall the game is mid af
Yeah ofc, I definitely wouldn't say it's up there with literally any Triple-A game coming out on PS or Xbox but it's debataly one of the best Pokémon games in some ways
PLA gets too much credit. I never see anyone bashing the game, even though it deserves it at times
Must just be our different perspectives honestly, because I myself have definitely seen more than a good amount of bashing in areas where it really doesn't deserve it. But yeah I agree it's not free of flaws or anything
Catching simulator with a fake open world
What's the music at 2:30?
It's Zelda: Ocarina of Time title theme, if that's not the one you mean just let me know!