How The Irishman’s Groundbreaking VFX Took Anti-Aging To the Next Level | Netflix
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- Director Martin Scorsese and the visual effects team behind The Irishman discuss how the film made Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, and Joe Pesci look decades younger.
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Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and Joe Pesci star in Martin Scorsese’s THE IRISHMAN, a saga of organized crime in post-war America told through the eyes of World War II veteran Frank Sheeran, a hustler and hitman who worked alongside some of the most notorious figures of the 20th century.
I actually laughed when Pesci called DeNiro a "kid". The youngest Deniro looked in this movie was about 50.
The mobsters used to call kids all the guys in the gang who were younger, watch The Sopranos
@@NekoElPerro Oh. It's on the Sopranos. Ok. Well then I had no reason to laugh at what looked like a 50 year old man being called "kid".
Yup. I laughed my ass off too
YES! Same here. When he called Deniro "kid"... That was weird. I love ILM but this was not a good job. It was probably impossible and most likely unnecessary. Just write a screenplay where all of them are old, period.
The movie was excellent nonetheless. Love it! Very different from Casino or Goodfellas, but still very interesting to watch unfold.
Some guys just look aged you know
They did really good with Pacino and Pesci. De Niro, though... His character's supposed to be 28 in the beginning of the movie, when he's a driver. Didn't believe that for a second, came off as a man in his mid-40s.
ALTAI Its probably because a young De Niro was a lot skinnier. Probably just different from what you’re used to, but he did look kinda off sometimes though.
I was fine with it... until Russell referred to Frank as "the kid" in an early scene. I had to stop and laugh at that one.
Yup the posture was way off for young Frank Sheeran.
I thought he did look young in the WWII scenes (they were really brief though)
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This technology is amazing. It made Deniro look like he is 60 years old again...
LMAOOOO
lmaoo
That's what i thought. Only he looks 70 to me.
How bout when he threw the guns? He looked 104
Love the new big noses.😁
I wish they would have had a body double for the intense action scenes because Rob definitely has that old man wobble lol
The stiffness was actually a trait of Frank Sheeran irl. Frank was injured in the war and walked that way all his life
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@@georgemanning238 ?
@@krishtandon7212 Nice try. No.
One main problem: old actor will act accordingly. The body can't lie.
yeah that curb stomp scene ... thats when I checked out.
Or when he was kicking the guy who pushed his daughter
I have a suggestion. Hire young dudes.
Its still impressive and better than not at all
@@LSK2K Like really, after they capture original performance and applied all this tech to it, they easily can stick it to the younger stunts bodies. Ofc filming every scene 2 times is out of a question, but they could do it in action ones.
They could make him look young but he still moved around like an old person.
He lookey acouple of years younger, they needed a young stand and double and more photoshop, slimer faces, other clothing.
peace and love or they could have used completely different actors and age them up but Marti really had to use the big 3 know for these types of films
the "posture supervisor" that they had on set needed to be more strict. in some scenes, like when Frank is pushing the guy into the car at gunpoint, Bob's movement looked great, properly poised and energetic.
The only scene where this was kinda obvious was when Frank broke the shopkeeper’s hand.
Yea it’s really the shopkeeper’s hand scene where you realize this man is old
At its best, De Niro de-aging still made him look like someones grandfather.
Dude, listen to what they say in the video. It's not meant to be just a de-aged De Niro, but Frank Sheeran. Look at pictures of Frank Sheeran from his 30's and you'll see.
@@MirandaAndUh It's not how he looks; the only issue I could see with the de-aging technology is the extremely young DeNiro did not quite get there, but was close enough. The real issue is that you can not change an actor's posture or gait, and these gave away the actors as the old men that they are.
A man in his 20s shouldn't be portrayed as slightly hunched and nearly shuffling when he's walking. These guys are still healthy and amazing actors, but they still walk and stand like old men in their 70s.
especially when he beat that guy up from the store who touched his daughter. i've never seen more of an 'old man fights' scene. they should have just used a double.
@@krismargett they should've used doubles for all of the younger scenes while keeping the original plate for facial reference.
It always felt off until he got into the 50s
Kris Margett that was hilarious
The de-aging process took 3.75 years off these guys. Mind blown
Problem is CGI skin does very little to make someone look younger. It's the head shape, facial expressions and body movement that contribute more to this perception.
@@zaryalace7475 a youtuber made it work
@@ThatOneDude7 A RUclipsr recreated a 3 minute clip, nothing close to a 3 hour film.
I think this won't change the film industry or how acctors will play different ages I think actors should wear markers Rob
All that tecnólogy for just removing a couple of wrinkles they still look old. This is were AI finally surpassed Hollywood vfx
in the scene where Robert De Niro beats up a store owner on the street. he still looked like a 70-year-old man. they should have used a stunt double for that scene.
Yep. They should have used stunt double for ANY scenes with him
Yeah. That looked so bad.
Or should have beaten Store owner inside
@@Worried_Lord that's good idea
AL HD couldn’t agree with u more!!!
This is such a complicated way to allow Martin Scorsese to make a movie with his friends
Yeah fuckin right
And he wonders why studios will not finance his films.
@Bernie Sanders It was the best movie of the year you pleb
@Bernie Sanders No one on the planet personifies boomerism more than Bernie Sanders
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Fact : Scorsese was de-aged for this interview. He's actually 217 years old.
In your face 🤦♂️
So that means he's got another four or five more good movies he can belt out.
LMAO!!!
And his voice still sounds like it did 50 years ago.
that's f*"ked up!🤣🤣🤣🤣
I never felt any of the guys looked any younger than 50yo.
Most of the movie they are supposed to be well past the age of 40 When we see Pesci the ofrst time he is already 52
Why are you crying?? Just enjoy these guys incredible performances for the last time together. What a piggfukk.
@@Aman-nk5uq pigfuck 😂😂😂😂 i love that im gonna use that from now on
That's still nearly thirty years shaved off each guy
it sucked so bad
So they have the technology to make the Han Solo trilogy with the Harrison Ford
Harrison Ford wants nothing to do with Star Wars and his character anymore, he's 200% done.
@@TohnoEn i already know but i am glad you get the idea ;)
@@TohnoEn he doesn't want to do a pointless cameo. That's why he wanted his character to die, it would've made him just a taxi to bring the other characters to different planets if he lived, instead of being important to the plot.
Aidryan Robert nope
Ford def wont do it though
It's incredible how this technology made the actors look like 60-year old video game characters with reflective eyes.
De-aging was great in the movie, but the uncanny blue eyes was the throw off, especially when it wasn't the same shade throughout the movie.
That, my friend, is a nitpick. The de-aging was off at times, but I don't think the eyes are really what matters. They said it themselves, the de-aging is a crucial part of the story and the obvious parts of it are off. Once again, the eyes won't matter
notsoshadysadie nah the eyes were the worst for me also, the de aging was ok but the eyes were so hard to look at throughout the film
I agree, his eyes are way too blue to me
yes! the color of the CGI eyes is too saturated to be real eyes color
Dang your right. I knew there was something off but didn't think about the eye color.
Netflix: we took anti-aging to the next level
Deepfake AI: bruh
Deepfake: Am I a joke to you
Thing is they didn't want the younger characters to look like how they did in goodfellas. They are different characters than the actors and are meant to look a little differemt
Plus the deep fakes are done on already processed plates, so they are much easier to do.
IKR
Actually, no. Deepfake is still bad.
“I don’t want the actors talking to each other with golf balls on their faces”
-Martin Scorsese 2020
Imagine what this technology is going to be able to produce in a decade.
i just only hope they could digitally bring back bruce lee
@@DrShu-kq7xp I hope that never happens. Icons like Bruce Lee have done their thing and left their legacy. I would hate for producers to abuse their faces, and voices to make more money without them having any control at all. It is scary.
Matthew Davis true
Thanks again George Lucas and The Prequels
@@DrShu-kq7xp Same. If the story was right and the voice, movements and Bruce Lee attitudes and expressions it would be epic. It would have to be perfect detail though.
Yeah who knows maybe by then they'll actually figure out a way to make them look younger.
I honestly didn't notice most of the times they'd used the de-aging tech. I only noticed the parts that they obviously had to be using it for how young they were. so I noticed on deniro but I didn't even notice a lick of it on al pacino whatsoever. I'm so glad this got done. I'm itching to see it used more in the future. we're finally at that point where at times you just cannot tell it's CGI at all.
thank you desinc very cool!
Ma boy!
hey lol
Really? I noticed it a ton on Pacino, but less so on DeNiro. Pacino's character just had a slight uncanny valley effect to him. In still pics, it looked great, but the movement was a little off.
pls tell me you're joking hahah
When they were fixing the truck at the beginning I thought “Okay they made him like about early fifties for story.” He started calling him kid an I was confused as hell.
Michael Sheeran was in his late 20's/early 30's in that scene. But to defend the "kid" part, Italian-Americans often say that to anyone younger than them, even if the person in question is an old man.
@@hasselett no way he even looked in 30s. Even I thought that he’s atleast 50 in the beginning.
@@siddhant... I agree but he means the real Michael would have been late 20s/early 30s in this scene.
@@rizvaldo7209 I know that, was just saying that I agree as well he looked almost 50 in the starting even tho their intentions were different.
@@hasselett Michael Sheeran?
This movie SERIOUSLY needed body doubles. The scene of De Niro beating down the grocer was really cringeworthy, he looked every bit of 76 years old.
Omg that's the part that stood out the most to me. He even gets up and walk away like an old man (no offense)
@@BeforeThisNovember Yeah.. it really pulled me out of the movie!
could easily be the worst scene Scorcese ever shot
It must have been a nightmare de-aging Pesci cause the guy looks about 100 years old now.
Yeah he did not age well. Pacino is the one that aged better, the one that deaging worked better and the one that gave the most energetic performance.
Doesn't matter that he looks young if he walks like an old tired man.
But the technology is cool nevertheless.
They would have done better filming a younger actor and putting De Niro's face on it.
@@clioaspinade9275 This.
It's not new or innovative
Saw Sam Jackson in captain Marvel?? That was way better
@@randomness5281 But in real life, he looks not that old really. Lol, he's 71, I thought like maybe 60~. So de-aging works better on him.
@@oanshee2462 De Niro is like 77 not 71.
I remember watching this and couldn’t believe how old he looked as they kept calling him young man. 😂
Works perfectly for Pacino.
Honest to god I assumed they didn’t use CG on him til after the movie.
Honestly, if he had lost some weight he would have looked like his 90s self.
I think it worked the best on Pesci, he hasn't changed as much as Al and Bob have.
That's cause Pacino has most of his facial features intact to this day, deniro on the other hand definitely sagged quite a bit
Pacino was cgi deaged in every shot of the movie. At a certain point de Niro and pesci transition to make up but not Al!
That's because Pacino has more energy than DeNiro and Pesci, a LOT more energy. And he aged better.
As groundbreaking as this is, the technology still has a long way to go.
True and hard part of face capturing is muscle movement in the face and the wrinkles and poor texture where your face hair grows well Thanos hade some hell of a good cgi but that mostly bechus they went all in on Thanos cgi like you don't hype a character for so long and do it 90% done they really went 110% for Thanos face body movement muscle movement skin stretching its like Thanos is something most human like thing I ever seen if you ofcourse forget he's a big gigant dude and purple and his chin forget those part and I think Thanos lookt like they took a big dude and painted him purple and made a fake chin makeup.
@@adrianstjarnfaldt395 Thanos is the worst example for this. Try Elsa next time.
Of course, but the more they try, they perfect it little by little. The Irishman VFX might not look that impressive or close to what we could call perfect to us now, but I'm pretty sure the foundations set today by this film will bring more refinement tomorrow.
@@yankis. yesss. he is the worst example. even though they went all in , generated everything till sweatpores level and muscle movements. the best example would be Steppenwolf from JL .NOW THAT, is genius CGI. the details on him were Spectacular
There was nothing “groundbreaking” about deniro kicking that grocery store owner outside the store with his trex stroke arm lol
wish they used a stunt double and digitally added deniros face on it
🤣🤣🤣
@@CloroxBleachChannel that would of been a excellent idea!
"T-REX STROKE ARM" i'm dead
That kick was dangerous, the way it grazed the guys hair
Imagine De Niro, Pesci and Pacino (again) appeared in modern video games and we can see them from their young days in very great graphic in mob-themed games
The future of games and movies is going to be wild, ripe with new possibilities
Was brilliant and, well done but De Niro's eyes when he was younger looked like they were digitally enhanced and false.
Warren Jenkins younger people's eyes usually stay more wet, so they probably had to add fake specular hilights, but missed the mark a bit.
Scorsese said that the eyes were the most difficult thing to deal with in post production. Hoping in the future that ILM can go back and correct. Aside from that I didnt have a problem with the film -- thought it was one of the best of 2019.
That’s because they were
Ahhh, so that's what it was.
Also de niro was much skinnier in his youth
Disappointed in all these people that can't get past a couple of technical issues to see the work of art that this film is.
The film has more issues than that big terrible issue
@@joancarlestomasEvery film has issues, and I disagree that it is a "big terrible issue." Overall it is remarkably well done and after the first couple of scenes you barely notice it.
The video isn't about if the Irishman is good or bad as a movie, it's about "How The Irishman’s Groundbreaking VFX Took Anti-Aging To the Next Level". So people comment about that specific technical issue, because that is the issue here.
Right. One of the original people to play peter pan was a middle aged woman. It's about the story.
The films ok pretty good i guess but still that was distracting af
The major problem is: we do not realize how much our childhood heroes have aged over the last 30 years. When you realize that and you see how much effort they put in these visuals effects, you can say they did an amazing job. It was a great movie. Too bad we did not get to see this on the big screen.
Of course we realise. People are just kidding themselves at home good old males look
i saw it on the big screen
Not much has improved in the last 30 years so we still cling to the same shit we grew up with
@@roddydykes7053If you're too lazy to seek out the phenomenonal art that's being made today, that's on you.
The movie is great, don't get me wrong. But it would have been better if they cast other actors and aged them, not the opposite.
Yeah that de-aging worked really well. Deniro looks 75 instead of 76
He actually looks older with the horrible fx
Sure they smoothed out the wrinkles but he still has an old man's body.
also old man's eyes and lips
I remember Captain America (Chris Evan) being young and skinny and short in the movie... So, they can manipulate the actor body, smh they didn't do it in The Irishman.
Yeah, that was the biggest mistake, for example, Geminni man was an awful movie, but the VFX are really awesome since they paid a lot of atention to the face, the body, the movement and the overall behavior of the younger version of will smith
And an old mans face without the wrinkles. Someone deep faked the movie and looked way better.
Ryan Sullivan keep in mind they didn’t want to make the actors look like the younger selfs but more the younger version of their characters yes there is a difference
They should've gotten a stunt double for the fast moving scenes, he looks young but moves like an elderly man.
Exactly!
I think they should have tried using more than one technique. Maybe using body doubles for some shots, when they're younger, trying to substitute the face as they did in skinny Steve Rogers in Captain America.
Than maybe when they were older, more make-up based effects, cause sometimes it looked a bit weird how their skin moved.
But the effects were really well done, it's an impressive achievement.
I think Martin wanted it be a simple process, the way marvel does it is kind a pain the ass. A different director would a done the process
When hes beating the guy at the store lol
6:38 is his most Irish line in the whole movie
delivered with an Italian accent lmfao
LOL
@@maxwilson3530 It's his accent that sounds Irish is my point
12:06 this is actually a huge improvement. I think they decided not to push too much to make it more realistic. Overall I think it's an amazing and somehow scary technology. :-)
It wasn’t always convincing but it never looked like CGI, as in The Gemini Man.
@@e7725 just look at the movie it looks as real faces
@John Chaser where all these haters come from Disney ? It does not look as CGI and seems like you don't know anything about this technology if you saying that. If it was random actors and nobody told you you would never know
@@blopp6240 it looks completely CGI and I love the movie so I didn't care, don't be so defensive.
@@giannis5250 yeah sure it did. I bet you didn't even watch it just came to drop random comment because Ur feelings of his opinions is hurt aswell
@@blopp6240 Dude it looked like CGI, very good CGI bit CGI none the less. And it is in fact CGI if you watch this video.
To be honest that "kid" still looks at least 50 years old
Nomad Yeah, and that just felt way off. Pesci calling him a kid. Even Pacino did so a couple times at least. Also Keitel. De niro is actually 76. He is only a few years younger than Pacino and Pesci.
Yeah it felt really off when they calld him kid. Was saying to myself what?
This had me confused right from the beginning. A character getting his start in the world of crime should look the part and it threw me off. I agree the "kid" looked 50 at least.
@@2112Relayer The kid looks older than my grandmother.
I have a much cheaper solution for de-aging technology: hire Paul Rudd.
Lmao or tom cruise
Chris rock
Thulsa Doom
Every one of them.
And also steve martin
But he doesn't look like De niro and isn't Italian or the same height and certainly doesn't have his cadence.
That is so cool! I've heard many actors say how difficult it is to perform with green screens, tennis balls, etc. This is so advanced! Just amazing!
It's basically a expensive HD Deepfake from themselves.
But not even close to what were achieved with Deepfake.
Except deep fakes looks for natural than this.
@@nickcollins9893 deep fake still looks fake. It depends a lot on the source materials
@@zZiL341yRj736, it's not 101% natural with Deepfakes, but it got close enough to stay as far away as possible from the uncanny valley :D
@@DaveDrumstick, nailed it! :)
The de-aged DeNiro really irritated me while watching the film. Especially the fake hyper-blue eyes. The other characters worked pretty well.
Completely agree on that, the eyes are so fake...
It doesn’t even look like his younger self a lot of the time
But Frank Sheeran actually had blue eyes.
He looks like a young comodo dragon. I think effect wasnt as "ground breaking" as they make it out to be.
Can I do better. No but let's call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool.
yeah those fuckin glowing blue eyes really could have been tweaked
The most technical achievement I see is the fact there's no markers.
De Niro looked terrible.
When you look at the original footage, you see how old they really have become. So sad to see
@D B Huh? They have some markers on hats or clothes, but their faces are free of any markers.
@D B You didn't, but when they said "wow there's no markers" they definitely meant the face. Because that's what's so special and unique about this technology.
@D B I definitely agree the truck scene and a few other scenes should've never made it to the final film. But no one is talking about the good. Pacino looks damn near flawless. My only experience with him was Scarface, so quite honestly I didn't realize that was him. I didn't actually realize Hoffa was one of the deaged characters until I saw the behind the scenes.
So yeah, some of the shots are really not good. But at a certain point I stopped seeing it and just saw the story unfolding.
Damn even today, seeing that quick vfx shot of Paul Walker still saddens me.
11:22 that's incredible
The deaging on Pacino is flawless in this film
Looks like a video game cinematic on the right
@@marthastubbs8321 yep, I always thought it worked bad on de Niro but great for Pacino
@@marthastubbs8321 agreed!
Lol that “DELETE ME” at the beginning of the captions
Cursed Captions
I have to disagree. ILM didn't nail the de-aging process in this film. Also, they should have used younger body doubles in shots that called for them.
I was thinking the same thing. Even if they got the face right. Nobody moves the same as when they were younger.
Yeah the WW2 scene and kicking of the grocery dude looked like an old man moving. But overall this movie was superb
Exactly
Completely agree. Not using younger body doubles just seems like a massive oversight by someone as great as scorcese.
Exaxtly
The Irishman is perfect movie you can't found the mistake in this movie. Every second is perfect. I watched 20 times
This technology is getting better but isn't truly convincing just yet. I'd say by 2030 it will be perfected.
By then we will have another set of old actors, Tom Hanks, Will Smith...
Ok I feel sad already. :/
It's already perfect if you count deep fakes.
It has already been perfected, they used an amateur-level technology, if you cound the results.
i agree, i think 2030 at a absolute minimum, i think the texture artists and choice of renderer could have been better
By 2030 there will be digital actors. No more humans. Maybe even digital directors and writers. AI will be writing script, directing and acting.
The visuals weren't perfect but the actors were. Cannot complain since the movie and acting was amazing, it doesn't get better than Pesci, De niro and Pacino
I knew they did extensive work with the deaging, but this is mind blowing how much detailed CGI work was put into the movie.
completely pointless work. they could have just hired younger actors and have Deniro play an older version.
Cool Goby Fish no it definitely wouldn't have been the same. Seeing all the acting from de Niro even at a "young" age is what made the movie great.
"I just pulled they cheeks back, and glued them behind their heads."
This is all really good but I think DeNiro needed his goatee from HEAT.
No facial hair in the mafia
I forgot he had one in that movie!
The real Frank Sheeran did not have facial hair while In the mafia
Okay people you’re sad
Xeno mafia guys rock the stache tho
Now I really feel like I'm in the year 2020.
Say what you want but this is revolutionary technology
It is what it is
It is and it’s only in its infancy. It literally just came out only maybe like a year ago and uses A.I to recreate faces. Imagine how good it will be 20 years from now
ok boomer
did you ever young tony stark and old captain
@@coronerxd eeeet eeees wat eeeeet esssss
@@ibrahimkalmati9379 on which the same vfx studio worked...
"We have to develop the technology" - to have the guts to propose this to such prestigious actors and director, wow! Yet, if no-one takes that leap of faith, no progress would ever be made! I think they pulled it off and can be very proud of the result. Bravo to ILM and the CGI geniuses that developed the techniques to do this, and do it well.
When filmmakers are doing this much of work to tell a story, we audience can also help them by letting go some scenes( de niro beating the store owner) and just focus on the bigger picture.
Yep
Yeah, they will stop acting one by one, let’s just all appreciate these legends 🙏🙏🙏
No we cannot.
Exactly. Its a 3 plus hours film and people keep scrutinizing that less than a minute scene.
People are shit
The whole point of the De-Aging was that you stayed vested in each character, yeah it can seem "off" a time or two, but for the greater good, it serves the movie infinitely better than any other option.
Plus the performances in this movie are off the scale, best De Niro has been in years
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In some scenes, they look like character models from a really great looking video game, not 100% real humans.
I hope they've kept all the source files so they would be able to make a remaster of this movie after 10-15 years.
Martin Scorsese isn't George Lucas. Scorsese respects the art enough to leave it be, as it was, as it should be, warts and all. That's called artistic integrity.
Besides, even ignoring that (which you shouldn't), this is a movie, not a video game, so the source files didn't have to be scaled down for the final result to work with a restrictive game engine. The way it looks in the movie is as good as those source files will ever look. They'd have to remake new files entirely to do what you're asking.
I love ILM because they made General Grievous, sexiest CGI character in film history.
The process was seamless that I didn't even think about it most of the movie, and I watched it in a theater. Also considering they didn't have any facial marks I think it's pretty incredible. The extreme close ups were amazing. I was as impressed as when I saw Thanos' stubble in Infinity War on IMAX.
no
“That is too risky” every crab there is.
This is like the 3rd upload netflix lmao
Yeah, I noticed it as well. Do you know why the other two got taken down?
@@JoseFaiqTorres have no clue
@@JoseFaiqTorres The first time I was trying to watch the video it said it's private
@@bogdanrus178 I assume the video got a copy strike because of the content they used in it (e.g. scenes from other movies), so they decided to re-edit and upload it.
Ceer One their legal would have cleared the footage and it would have been a quick dispute for Netflix given their size. YT prioritizes major channels to avoid hiccups.
I wish oneday they can create young Michael Corleone again
That camera setup should've been called The Cerberus. Talk about a missed opportunity lol
Their bodies betrayed their age throughout the movie,however,Scorcese works his story so magically,I barely have a problem with it
This De-aging looks more like 75 to 65 years old tops
Alright how bout you put together a couple hundred million dollars and do it better
@@jinaki88 😂😂😂
Jinaki it wouldn’t cost that much. Deepfake technology could do this way better and easier
@@Madmetalmaniac42069 deepfake technology isn't used for deaging.
@@arsh2029 it absolutely is. You need multiple pictures of someone when they are younger, from different angles and lighting. You feed that into your program as training data and let the A.I. train with those photos as well as photos of the current persons age. Then, with enough data, you could realistically transpose the younger face onto the older footage through Deepfake machine learning
“No idealized Joe Pesci”?!? This man has never seen Home Alone
8:00 ok now I want Robert de Niro in a videogame lmao
Should have used this technology on justice league infamous mustache for the man of steel
Not the same technology.
They should've done anything but what they did...a regular deep fake over top of that would make it better
@@doc8013 it was a joke I was saying anything would have been then what they used for the film.
this is ILM (Disney) & Disney Research Lab (Disney)
but WB hates working with Disney
A tenner says ILM uses this tech on the next Indiana Jones film.
even if I barely know Adobe Premiere and Adobe After Effects, I can imagine what kind of hell of a job they did with graphics and editing. the movie was fantastic !
and as always, Martin Scorsese is the best and my favorite director
“Should’ve hired young actors!”
To act as young Al Pacino , de niro and Joe Pesci?
Cos that wouldn’t make you complain at all.
but where's the challenge in that.
Millennial comment.
I actually i liked the movie but the cgi made me cringe and there are MANY talented actors out there that are loved.
So what is the point of this terrible cgi?
Maha Hamdi worked great for pacino
@@goku8621 But it ruined it for De Niro, who was the main character. Pacino and Pesci were okay, but De Niro looked so off.
Wow, people are being so negative sometimes! :(
I think that Those guys did a great job, they have tried to do something new. It’s going to take a long time when it gets perfect, but those are the guys that are doing the progress! You have to be more respectful to the work they have done. And you have to know that it’s impossible to create an absolutely perfect and seamless 3D de aging with the technology that we have right now.
Thanks for sharing the process with us! Great job and great movie 🍿
Other films have de-aged actors and those were far better. People are not being negative, they just expect better from a scorcese film.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should
You can get overly positive and wank to mediocrity all you want, it’s your choice but its not how perfection is achieved.
Мария Судюкова. Here is your great job. How could they do this bad? Are you blind?
ruclips.net/video/dyRvbFhknRc/видео.html
Only negative people I see are those who got upset about his comment on marvel . Movie was good and so was performances
Dinero still looked old. I expected him to be how he was in the taxi driver
It's a technology, not Jesus Christ.
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Lucas Da Motta There’s people using DeepFakes and he looks like he did in Casino. I spotted the main problem. The lips. The older you get, the thinner they become.
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What y’all need to realize is that this is a relatively new technology. It can’t be perfect now. But I would definitely say they did a hella amazing job for a first time. So stop hating.
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people do realize it.
that's why they call it out.
the technology doesn't have to be perfect (and possibly never will).
just reasonably close to perfect.
at the time of making this movie, it wasn't there just yet.
and this is a fact.
stating a fact is not "hating" - unless your own relationship with facts is somewhat troubled.
you are correct if you imply that SOME movies had to be first in order to help the technology progress - of course. (first planes also crashed, first submarines drowned etc.)
it's just a pity that one of these pioneer "crashes" happened to be a movie that was supposed to be Scorsese's great farewell to cinema.
It’s just mind boggling what they do to De Niro’s eyes. Like why do they either saturate them so much, or leave them so saturated? It makes him look like a ghost and makes it so incredibly obvious that a shot is fake. It’s such an obvious thing, and something that could very easily be adjust with curves, levels, or saturation, but they leave it? It’s just mind boggling
mind boggling mind boggling mind boggling mind boggling
I understand that it is mind boggling
You tell em' dude. I'm sure your extensive expertise in Adobe is just what these film makers needed to cross that bridge. Why you're not working at ILM is mind boggling.
the Irish man, the last avenger.
Pacino looked flawless. DeNiro and Pesci looked good, but still “off”.
The Irishman was absolutely amazing!
Deniro looks off. Something about the eyes wasn’t quite right
His character has blue eyes so De Niro wears blue lences. But seriously that didn't bothered me at all. What bothered me was that the character should look 30 or 40 but they look more like 5O or 60.
Funk O'Matic the ‘treatment’ is much more apparent on a big screen (the big fake clip), but they have the right concept for sure. Once that gets perfected, sky’s the limit
agree
That's what happens when you spend the last 20 years drinking baby blood and praising satan
@@Nicotine46 That is due to all the wrinkles around the eyes and the shadows at the corner of their mouths.
The 3 headed monster. These 3 actors are flawless actors
That technology is truly amazing and I'm sure they did the best they've could, but the result is still quite bad imho. The de-aging really bothered me while I was watching
7:25 you cannot convince me that isn't Alan Tudyk pretending to be Douglas Moore by using the same technology they're all talking about
Anti-aging can only get so good. Someone's gaze always gives away their age.
Yup. He had that old man gaze. It looked like he was looking through someone rather than at them.
The old man walk gave it away lol
Holy fuck you are right, not only in this life in general, the gaze of a person determines what that person has lived
@Mike L When i first saw him in the truck, there was no convincing me that it even looked close to real. It definitely started looking better after that, but there were certain scenes where it really just didnt work. I think it was the forehead a lot of the time that didnt look real, it just looked like a bunch of foundation on his face.
that dude still looks like Micheal From GTA when hes younger
The effects are... okay. They aren't disastrous, but I was expecting them to actually resemble their younger selves with all the pre-release hype and with the amount of work/money ILM put into it. There's a RUclipsr called iFake who used free software to de-age the characters, and De Niro specifically looks pretty damn good in that video.
I absolutely agree!
That videos is low quality and would never work on big screen movies . Deepfakes is low quality overlays and in high quality they look of but however technology is evolving quickly so I believe it's not for long
You prefering the fake wax faces of the amateur software done by an amateur above the work ILM did with people that know their craft, tells me everything i need to know. There is a reason why ILM made it the way they did and there is a reason why people like you prefer cheap crap over a real form of art. People like you cannot judge this stuff, because you just don't know better. The artists behind the work even tell you in this video, that the task was not to make the characters look like the actors decades ago, but how their characters would've looked like. Do some research about Frank Sheeran, he looked like an old man in his 30s. Very unhealthy lifestyle, bad skin with a lots of wrinkles, So did De Niro in this movie. Well captured. But people like won't listen and wouldn't understand anyway. You prefer it to look like cheap crap without any effort.The amateur effects were build upon ILMs remarkable work. Without it, it would look even worse than it did.
@@mrblonde609 OR, OR... maybe the industry can figure out how to implement deepfake technology and touch it up with professional CGI to make for a better end result.
But maybe that's a pipe dream. Just like you not acting like a pretentious prick in the comments.
One thing to remember is that the tech development started around 3 years ago at ILM, a time where deepfake (and deep learning in general) hasn't really take off yet. Even Deepfake at this state is still pretty expensive computationally, applying it to 1700 shots, all of them in 4k would require a massive amount of resources. But the fact that some guy with almost no resource is able to produce the effects with the same same (or even better) level of quality is a good sign
Sure, the de-aging was far from perfect, but it’s still the best I’ve seen, and more than anything, I love how much the vfx artists were inspired to invent new technologies because they believed in the movie and Scorsese and the actors. I feel like that’s something that doesn’t happen often anymore
the de-aging in the new indiana jones is really good and well done. In this film they barely looked younger.
Couldn’t be the only one who found that staring at deniro was hurting their eyes. It was like watching a 3-d film but without any glasses
3:28 This was the de-aging Test that convinced Scorsese...
Better then the movie
They should of just had young actors play them as they've done through the decades in previous films
an then use this 3d face replace tecnology
ah yes, why bother push technology, let's all sell our cars and go back to horses too, it's easier that way
Yeah, they could of definitely spent time looking for Pacino and Deniro look alikes
Мармеладов ТВ I’m not arguing against you guys lol, my reply sounded sarcastic
Syber-VHS ??? Your comment is out of place here kinda because wtf do cars and horses have to do with a conversation about 3D face technology?
Industrial Light and Magic is INCREDIBLE
Simply incredible.
Even if it wasn't 100% convincing from a movement standpoint, I don't get why it's so hard to go along with. For me, it was like seeing a play where the characters play multiple ages.
He still looked like he was in his 50s
Please don't forget to de-age the vocal sounds, too. The sounds does reveal actors real age.
@Mr. Traveler they should've hired you! Fantastic job!!
Are you kidding me? The de-aging in Irishman looked like the polar express. Gemini man was one movie that was really groundbreaking when it comes de-aging.
I think i know the biggest reason for it looking off, the mouths and eyes. People forget that they change as you get older so when they're supposed to be 30 they still have those old eyes and grumpy mouths.
How many times y'all going to reupload this video?
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Holy shit! This shows us the test CGI they made where they recreated Goodfellas! Remember Martin mentioning this - thanks for showing it off! :)
On a serious note. They did a fantastic job, to me, the youngest robert looks is 40. The ww2 scene makes him look a little more younger, despite them looking older than intended, they still managed to make these characters look younger! 👌