It only lasted 30 days with the storm tiger guy because he has lightning immunity and lei shen had to beat him into submission with just his fists. The other 3 weren’t mentioned because lei shen just used lightning to clap them in like 2 seconds, so they weren’t worth talking about.
i don't know what you were playing but a frost dk could 3-4 tap you if you're not careful, that same frost dk could also decide that they don't want to die and dump all their resources into healing..... you might have a point.
@@TNTspaz Still, this guy probably didn't read the quest text. Lol. The serial WoW lore complainers mostly do not read text, listen to dialogue and skip cutscenes. You gotta put *some* effort in yourself.
Imagine for a moment that Blizzard introduced an antagonist and made him have all this character development in-game. All coming to conclusion in the final patch, making it a very satisfying experience.
Ya its not like all of this was present in game...oh wait....IT IS. AND WAS. Save some later developments added in chronicle you can read in game text about it. In its entirety.
@@ConnorNotyerbidness the character development isn't really there though, that would require something similar to FF14's storytelling. just because it exists in game doesn't mean that it's being used well
Easily the best none RTS legacy character they ever made, damn shame the state of the game now and a damn waste he wasn't in HotS. At least we have happy memories.
@@clintonmallard8447 I've played pretty much every MOBA and the only ones I still play regularly are HOTS & LOL. HOTS is easy to pick up and you never feel far behind the meta no matter how long of a break you've had from it which is nice. It's a casual friendly game whilst still having significant skillgaps. I also find more variety in playing the same heroes on HOTS because of the talent system whereas on other MOBAS I feel like I'm just doing the same build and using the same spells 90% of the time.
This is why MoP is one of the best expansions. The lore brought so many incredibly interesting characters, (in my opinion) the zones were really pleasing to look at, and all of the classes felt amazing to play. People always resort to "Hurr panda stupid" but honestly I think Blizzard did a good job.
2:30 i used to work for an outsourcing company doing some stuff for Netflix, the reason there is still region locked content on Netflix and other sites has nothing to do with Netflix, its actually because of regional licensing, whenever Netflix (or some other streaming service) wants to get ahold of INSERTSERIESHERE they funnily enough have to bid for the license of that show in each region, which is why you will find some seasons of a show in one region on Netflix and some seasons of the same show in another region and another streaming platform (this happened to Top Gear) dunno why i felt i had to comment on that as i came for the wow lore but your welcome
@@Derek147900 Yea I wasn't addressing the video... I was just stating I used to get my lore facts from Nobbel, you're aware that youtube has more then one WoW lore channel or do I need to hold your hand through my statement?
@@Derek147900 What video I'm I trying to cross reference, please point out where I was stating another video. All I pointed out was I'd like an in-game function that told me the stories from the books in the game. I also claimed about getting my lore on WoW from another RUclipsr. Replying to my comment without being a douche and trying to correct me on a topic not even brought up isn't hard BRO.
Wow, MoP lore was pretty fucking cool, and the halberd dropping boss bit? What a nice touch. I didn't know any of this and I played the fucking expansion. THAT is WoW's real problem.
What happened? Well Metzen left. Guy aint a really good narrative writer but his ideas are usually really good. Afrasiabi is a shithead and deserved to be dropped and shouldve been dropped a long of time ago but he too contributed alot to the old lore. Danuser, Golden or whoever just doesnt hold up even alittle bit
@@timjack4650 i agree but her more recent books has been bad and her contributions to the bfa ingame story has also been bad in my opinion Her last good book for me was lord of the clans and maybe rise of the horde. Arthas was eh. The jaina novel, warcrimes, before the storm and now the sylvanas novel have all been ranging from mediocre or just bad with the latter 2 being criminal imo
Danuser is the main issue, he is completely inept when it comes to the lore and telling good stories. Golden isnt a bad writer but ofc she more likely than not gets some guidance on what the books should be about...and as good as you are its hard to turn shit into gold.
@@ghekor nah she did get alot of guidance. In fact, she was also given alot of freedom to retcon shit aswell as seen with Before The Storm where she retconned the entire forsaken society lore to fit her version just because "she never understood/liked vanilla's forsaken lore" Plus she has very specific taste in narrative as seen with Anduin's story and self inserts like Calia Menethil's story both of which have been either dull as all hell or just wtf
Watched this live yesterday, hot damn, I missed this patch in retail and I know they say this stuff isn't really in the game but DAAAMN this is some awesome lore. Imagine if they did loads like this and put it in the game, would've been just...excellent.
@@TonyKalashnikov b r u h. I stopped playing months ago, I'm not on copium, just like "we already had fun, imagine if they actually utilized the good writers they used to have, it would've been even better".
The content in this patch was god-tier. The lore, if not the actual storytelling, was also spectacular. there's a reason a LORGE section of players active during mists consider it to be peak WoW gameplay.
Yeah, you would have thought that Allied Race would be a great opportunity to add Jinyu to the Alliance and Mogu to the Horde. But like many features from WoD onwards, Blizzard half-assed it and turned into a expansion gimmick instead of expanding on it.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 The mogu would never join any of the factions given how prideful they are, to think they would submit themselves to what they think are inferior races is out of question.
@@matheuswagner5198 I mean Zandalari trolls were also prideful and thought themselves superior, but circumstances changed. Yes, with the Mogu you have a harder case since they are even more stubborn than Trolls, but considering they are now in a state similar to the Age of hundred kings it wouldn`t be too hard to make a scenario of one Mogu clan struggling so severely, that they would do anything to survive. One random encounter with the Horde later and voila. Honestly, considering how much Steve Danuser and his writing team messed up the lore already, this wouldn`t even be the most outrageous thing they could do....
Well, the Jailer could be a good story. It depends on whether they come up with a reason for his actions that makes sense like Lei Shen had motives that made sense, or if they come up with a stupid reason. That's if they ever reveal why he did what he did at all.
I half agree with Asmongold on best villains are the hero of their own story. There are exceptions though, such as Luca Blight. Who is my favorite villain of all time. He was great and actually manipulated an emotional response from me which isn't nothing.
During Warmaster Blackhorn encounter in Dragon Soul, the captain from the ship says: All ahead full. Everything depends on our speed! We can't let the Destroyer get away. Our engines are damaged! We're sitting DUCKS up here! At the end of the day we are the ducks.
So glad wow has such good stories... Somewhere in a book you have to buy or hidden under a rock... Man without platinum wow id never knew about half the stories
I love how Blizzard calls the power source in Shadowlands 'anima'. They couldn't even be bothered to come up with a different name, just goes to show how little they cared about their story.
Makes it 100 times worse when you consider, that 'anima' in latin literally means 'soul'. Like, not only did they go the easy way with the naming, by calling the literal soul-juice 'soul', but also forgot to check if they used that term already.
Looks the same, too. So they had 2 options. 1. Say this was Ra-Dens Life force Anima. 2. Give the SL Anima a diffrent name and design. But none of this obvious simple solutiins came to mind.
Actually, the Thunder King was foreshadowed and hinted at throughout the expansion, when finally he was revealed to have been revived in one patch. I seriously wonder why the Thunder King didn’t try to use his power to unite all of Azeroth instead of just ruling Pandarea. The guy could have armed the entire planet against all the external threats, or at least bolster its defenses, but I guess that would have not made him look much like a villain. Would actually have been cooler if the Mogu were playable with the the Thunder King being their leader, their race being wholly neutral with the players serving as mercenaries or something. But that would have been way too cool, right? Ugh, why does this game have to fall so short of everything it could be.
I think mogu wont work really good as a playable character especially if they are able to play with alliance and horde, everyone would be a mogu then bc u can just quest as alliance and horde
Well its not like he didnt try. He gotta establish rule and actually govern his conquered territory no? So yeah, it wasnt so much that he only chose to rule pandaria. It was more like before his death, his empire only reached to the corners of pandaria.
Mists of Pandaria was an excellent expansion with great lore and lots of content. Great video! Mind you, people complained about it at the time ofcourse.
The part where Sargeras killed the Titans hasnt been retconed, he did kill them, but the Titans are gods, merely losing their bodies wasnt enough so their astral forms just went away and regenerated.
I was watching this now and thinking. What did I miss, because I remember in Legion Sargeras did kill the titans and I thinking he is using their essense to empower the Burning Legion.
The problem eith the jailer is that for all shadowland he was doing evil thing without explaining nothing, everyone are like:"yeah so he is doing bad stuff for reasons we must discover" and basically we never does that only at the end and is compleatly bullshit because it makes no fucking sense, if he was a good guy or something, why didn't he just explained everything? Why he didn't told Sylvanas why he did everything alone when he could just talk, if he is supposed to be evil you have to give a sort of evil proupose, you can't tell me he was a sort of good guy at the end, because then why did he do all those bad things tourturing people instead of talk. There's no fucking way he wanted to "unite the cosmo" also because his plan didn't looked like it was that, more like destroy it, like we all thought for a year.
We did, and he was resurrected on the small island in the north-eastern part of Kun-Lai where there are zandalari trolls. There's also a valley up in the mountains with a bunch of tombs and the mogu and zandalari were searching for the one belonging to Lei-Shen and they got to it first.
The fact that Blizzard confirmed Lei Shen will win a 1V1 against the Lich King himself(Arthas, not Bolbar of course), proves that he’s the strongest mortal in the wow lore.
@@karerabbe7829 Lei Shen beat 4 wild gods with little to no effort. Xuen is pretty much immune to lightning since he himself has similar abilities, so he had to beat him into submission with his own hands, and thats why it took 30 days. While yes there are examples of weak titan watcher as you fight some of them as trash mobs (although players were not only powerful themselves but also had the strongest weapons in lore and they were empowered), some titan watchers are actually really strong. Remember titan watchers fought equally and eventually defeated the elemental lords, are you implying that Lich King could fight Ragnaros in a 1v1 and win ? Especially when you consider the fact that wild gods, althought vary in strength there are some good examples. Malorne who fought archimonde and Sethralis who fought Mythrax, and her own self destruction, annihilated the entire Vol'Dun area similar to what happened to Uldum. Lich King never had power of that magnitude . His strength comes from the endless undead army, not necessarily from pure power
@@karerabbe7829 Lei Shen may not be able to beat ragnaros but he is for sure on a tier of the strongest beings in azeroth. He beat 4 wild gods. There are examples where wild gods are actually pretty strong considering the many characters warcraft has. Sethralis as i mentioned blasted the entire zone of vol'dun. Pretty much the same things that happened with Uldum. So Lei Shen fought 4 wild gods who should be on that level of strength more or less. Lich King never did anything close to that. If you think LK would beat Archimonde, you are so wrong. Based on what exactly ? Archimonde and Kil'jaeden never feared the LK himself. Its his army that is a problem. To give you an idea how strong Archimonde and Kil'jaeden is. Only they could defeatt Azshara pre-N'zoth power up. She shielded her palace during the Sundering for quite some time, and thats insane considering the sundering had enough force to split continents. You realise how big that feat is ? And Malorne fought Archimonde who is superior to that level of power ? Yeah Lei Shen is an absolute beast and LK is no where near close to that level. Dont confuse powerscaling with how much better character he is Another thing to note. If you think Ra-Den is weak you have no idea, he together with Helya forged the 4 elemental planes and sealed, the elements (including Ragnaros and the others) in those pocket dimensions. So Lei-Shen also has enough power to create a pocket dimension at least a small one (not saying that he could make another elemental plane by himself but since it was only Ra and Helya he should have at least half the power required to create one) You also avoided the question : Could LK beat Ragnaros ? You just responded with another question about Lei-Shen if he could beat Ragnaros. The answer is simple if Lei-Shen cant, LK definetely cant do shit against any of the elemental Lords. Atleast Lei-Shen can fight for some time considering he has powers of a titan watcher who fought these elemental lords
As much as i like PlatinumWow he got some details wrong. First Ra-Den never took Lei Shen to the Thunderous Mountain, all transpired in the Mogu-Shan vault. Second Lei Shen took Aman`thuls energy, which Ra-Den had stored away and showed Lei Shen as proof of his claim. After that he overpowered Ra-Den. Which in my opinion is far more impressive than striking him from behind.
Might be conflicting sources. Pandaria had a lot of stories like that where there were many legends about certain events went. I recall the Thundering Mountain-scenario being how the tale was told in-game before the Chronicles.
Michael Stackpole wrote some TERRIFIC novels for BATTLETECH back 30 years ago. They certainly took the universe in a decided direction that was overpowering to the entire genres storyline. But never the less stories were great reads. Combined with William Keiths novels, wich you should read first as they are smaller in scope, and you have great stories to read.
Thunder King story is both in books and in game just talk to Lorewalker Cho, lore like this and chronicles actually make sense being in a book since they happen long before the story of the playable game, current one is the one that should be all in game but adding cutscenes for everything isn't a good solution, instead the story can be told by the npc in game as things happen preferably with voice acting, this way people can know the story without breaking the flow of the game. Also it perfectly normal for it to be anima both in Azeroth and SL since races in Azeroth didn't had access or much knowledge about SL.
24:32 Because Asmon, good storywork hurts the brain of the executives and the game developers so all the good story is relegated to books and obscure flavor text that the big devs never see.
I might be a history nerd but I think, Lei Shen story is basically based on Emperor of Qin Shi Huang, founder of the Qin dynasty who unified all independent kingdoms in the present area, China to Da Qin (Qin Dynasty) much like constant state at war with each other Mogus. Even serpent spine, is Great Wall of China and the end of Lei Shen at forge of origination that led Mogu Empire never recovered again, much like fall of Qin dynasty after Emperor Qin Shi died. Don't get me wrong, I love Lei Shen story so much.
I thought the same thing back during MoP. If you're going to base a villain for a China themed expansion on anyone, then go for one of the best. Qin Shi Huang is a historic figure I find fascinating, as an example of how sometimes, you need a monster to get things done. Nobody but a maniacal tyrant would have been willing to bust heads and conquer by force to end the Warring States period.
No. I think the only physical duck reference is the Legion fishing bobber. Other than that, it's possible that there's a cooked duck food item, or a duck float that goblins use in their pools. I think you're talking about the shore birds in Legion and BfA. Sandpipers, not ducks.
Blizzard killed off or changed all the characters drastically after WotLK. They basically erased all of the old wow content and remade each expansion as reboots after WotLK too and none of the sheep noticed.
We went to the shadowlands and learned all about death, except for why we can wipe and resurrect a thousand times, but the main characters cannot resurrect xD.
With the exception of the player Demon Hunter who possesses the same Immortal soul like Illidan and can thus keep returning from death, noone else has such a soul and really outside specific raid enounters where we get 'killed' like ICC and Antorus(?) we arent technically getting killed anywhere else and in those 2 we get instanly ressed back.
In varians defence he just got done going ham against a giant demon and then an army after, yeah 2 are eventually gonna get him, and it was from behind!
Won't come back unless wrathion gets killed and they recover his heart. Which I wouldn't mind happening. Thunder King is more interesting than most characters in WoW today
If all of this lore was known to the playerbase as warcraft 3 was prior to wrath of the lich king, then the thunder king patch would've been immensely more succesful.
i got the mount 1st run :P and mimirons head from ulduar ...my achievments dungeon completed same day mount obtained :( i quit playing years ago not even weeks after i got the mounts ...its just boring now
I miss mop. i had more fun leveling in mop than cata. i know there will probably be a cata classic but i dont really care for cata. the only place that was cool in cata was uldum ironically.
Varian, at least, got to do something cool before he got ganked by thrash mobs, unlike a certain troll. Hope they don't pull a Borderlands 3 and kill off all the old important characters in favor of some "new and hip" Scrappy Doo types like Ava.
“In a battle that lasted 30 days” this is how you know it was truly in mop
Some dragon ball z shit lol
It only lasted 30 days with the storm tiger guy because he has lightning immunity and lei shen had to beat him into submission with just his fists. The other 3 weren’t mentioned because lei shen just used lightning to clap them in like 2 seconds, so they weren’t worth talking about.
I think that no one got the joke. In MoP, everyone had everything and no one died in PvP, so you had matches easily 15 minutes long.
@@OWA_Freerunning My comment was also a joke but you got to admit it was a good one.
i don't know what you were playing but a frost dk could 3-4 tap you if you're not careful, that same frost dk could also decide that they don't want to die and dump all their resources into healing..... you might have a point.
I learned more in 30 minutes about MoP lore, than I did in the years playing though the actual story ... crazy.
That’s cause blizzards story telling is dogshit and confusing. Platinum does a good job piecing it all together
You need to read the quest text.
Read the books 😂🤣😂
@@TNTspaz Still, this guy probably didn't read the quest text. Lol. The serial WoW lore complainers mostly do not read text, listen to dialogue and skip cutscenes. You gotta put *some* effort in yourself.
@@TE-eq1dc Except Suramar, that’s probably their only good in-game story telling they’ve ever made.
5:51 Asmon in his mind be like:
"Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete"
Imagine for a moment that Blizzard introduced an antagonist and made him have all this character development in-game. All coming to conclusion in the final patch, making it a very satisfying experience.
Right, instead of having to learn about it years later in a random lore summary video.
I can imagine, but its foolish to dream so big. Blizzard will never do something like that, let alone actually making good story writing again
Ya its not like all of this was present in game...oh wait....IT IS. AND WAS. Save some later developments added in chronicle you can read in game text about it. In its entirety.
guldan
@@ConnorNotyerbidness the character development isn't really there though, that would require something similar to FF14's storytelling.
just because it exists in game doesn't mean that it's being used well
Easily the best none RTS legacy character they ever made, damn shame the state of the game now and a damn waste he wasn't in HotS. At least we have happy memories.
Who knows, maybe microsoft will revive hots :copium:
Blizzard: "Here, have a Thunder King Shaman Hero Skin in Hearthstone. Take it or leave it."
@@Yubie1 Imagine hots with a bunch of Microsoft IPs thrown in it might actually save the game from its decline.
@@clintonmallard8447 Hots is its own game honestly and requires a lot less time to get good at it since there's no items and way less heroes.
@@clintonmallard8447 I've played pretty much every MOBA and the only ones I still play regularly are HOTS & LOL. HOTS is easy to pick up and you never feel far behind the meta no matter how long of a break you've had from it which is nice. It's a casual friendly game whilst still having significant skillgaps. I also find more variety in playing the same heroes on HOTS because of the talent system whereas on other MOBAS I feel like I'm just doing the same build and using the same spells 90% of the time.
This is why MoP is one of the best expansions. The lore brought so many incredibly interesting characters, (in my opinion) the zones were really pleasing to look at, and all of the classes felt amazing to play. People always resort to "Hurr panda stupid" but honestly I think Blizzard did a good job.
Mop and wod is proof that you will never know what you are gonna get from a wow expension.
And y'all owe the "stupid joke panda expansion" an apology after Shadowlands.
2:30 i used to work for an outsourcing company doing some stuff for Netflix, the reason there is still region locked content on Netflix and other sites has nothing to do with Netflix, its actually because of regional licensing, whenever Netflix (or some other streaming service) wants to get ahold of INSERTSERIESHERE they funnily enough have to bid for the license of that show in each region, which is why you will find some seasons of a show in one region on Netflix and some seasons of the same show in another region and another streaming platform (this happened to Top Gear) dunno why i felt i had to comment on that as i came for the wow lore but your welcome
Honestly I wish they'd bring back MoP scenarios to tell stories in the books so I wouldn't have to rely no Nobbel to tell me what's going on.
@@Derek147900 Yea I wasn't addressing the video... I was just stating I used to get my lore facts from Nobbel, you're aware that youtube has more then one WoW lore channel or do I need to hold your hand through my statement?
@@Derek147900 What video I'm I trying to cross reference, please point out where I was stating another video. All I pointed out was I'd like an in-game function that told me the stories from the books in the game. I also claimed about getting my lore on WoW from another RUclipsr. Replying to my comment without being a douche and trying to correct me on a topic not even brought up isn't hard BRO.
The head shaking thunder god had me rolling! 😂😂
glad to see wow fixed the problem with there being no ducks with dragonflight
very cheekily too lol
You know,yogg-saron's curse of flash,changed a lot of things in the wow lore.
AND NOW! WE HAVE DUCK! 10.0 Dragonflight
"Fine. I'll do it myself."
-Lei Shen, probably
Wow, MoP lore was pretty fucking cool, and the halberd dropping boss bit? What a nice touch.
I didn't know any of this and I played the fucking expansion. THAT is WoW's real problem.
What happened? Well Metzen left. Guy aint a really good narrative writer but his ideas are usually really good. Afrasiabi is a shithead and deserved to be dropped and shouldve been dropped a long of time ago but he too contributed alot to the old lore.
Danuser, Golden or whoever just doesnt hold up even alittle bit
But Christie Golden writen pretty good books thou , it's just sad to see non of it actually play out in-game instead.
@@timjack4650 i agree but her more recent books has been bad and her contributions to the bfa ingame story has also been bad in my opinion
Her last good book for me was lord of the clans and maybe rise of the horde. Arthas was eh. The jaina novel, warcrimes, before the storm and now the sylvanas novel have all been ranging from mediocre or just bad with the latter 2 being criminal imo
Danuser is the main issue, he is completely inept when it comes to the lore and telling good stories. Golden isnt a bad writer but ofc she more likely than not gets some guidance on what the books should be about...and as good as you are its hard to turn shit into gold.
@@ghekor nah she did get alot of guidance. In fact, she was also given alot of freedom to retcon shit aswell as seen with Before The Storm where she retconned the entire forsaken society lore to fit her version just because "she never understood/liked vanilla's forsaken lore"
Plus she has very specific taste in narrative as seen with Anduin's story and self inserts like Calia Menethil's story both of which have been either dull as all hell or just wtf
@@khalduras784 wait so, all that shit about the forsaken being like the villains most of the time that recently came up was all goldens doings?
Watched this live yesterday, hot damn, I missed this patch in retail and I know they say this stuff isn't really in the game but DAAAMN this is some awesome lore. Imagine if they did loads like this and put it in the game, would've been just...excellent.
Everytime i see a comment like this on WoW videos... 'Imagine if it was better' ... But its not stop the copium
@@TonyKalashnikov b r u h. I stopped playing months ago, I'm not on copium, just like "we already had fun, imagine if they actually utilized the good writers they used to have, it would've been even better".
Blizzard is an indie company bro, don't get your hopes up.
The content in this patch was god-tier. The lore, if not the actual storytelling, was also spectacular. there's a reason a LORGE section of players active during mists consider it to be peak WoW gameplay.
Really wish they added the Mogu as playable race
That'd be awesome, i would gladly enslave all those pandaren scum.
Yeah, you would have thought that Allied Race would be a great opportunity to add Jinyu to the Alliance and Mogu to the Horde. But like many features from WoD onwards, Blizzard half-assed it and turned into a expansion gimmick instead of expanding on it.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 The mogu would never join any of the factions given how prideful they are, to think they would submit themselves to what they think are inferior races is out of question.
@@matheuswagner5198 I mean Zandalari trolls were also prideful and thought themselves superior, but circumstances changed. Yes, with the Mogu you have a harder case since they are even more stubborn than Trolls, but considering they are now in a state similar to the Age of hundred kings it wouldn`t be too hard to make a scenario of one Mogu clan struggling so severely, that they would do anything to survive. One random encounter with the Horde later and voila. Honestly, considering how much Steve Danuser and his writing team messed up the lore already, this wouldn`t even be the most outrageous thing they could do....
@@matheuswagner5198 Rajani, not subscribing to Lei Shen's ideology: Are we jokes to you?
the Thunder King is Badass as hell he is a great Villain
Well, the Jailer could be a good story. It depends on whether they come up with a reason for his actions that makes sense like Lei Shen had motives that made sense, or if they come up with a stupid reason. That's if they ever reveal why he did what he did at all.
I half agree with Asmongold on best villains are the hero of their own story. There are exceptions though, such as Luca Blight. Who is my favorite villain of all time. He was great and actually manipulated an emotional response from me which isn't nothing.
"A duck walked into an Apothecary and said 'Give me some ChapStick... and put it on my bill!"
only duck ever mentioned in game
Whoever wrote this should never have stopped writing WoW lore.
It was Metzen, lore turned shit when he left and Danuser took his place, his first expansion as the lead writer was BFA.
During Warmaster Blackhorn encounter in Dragon Soul, the captain from the ship says: All ahead full. Everything depends on our speed! We can't let the Destroyer get away. Our engines are damaged! We're sitting DUCKS up here!
At the end of the day we are the ducks.
26:55 The Jailor's story looks like it came from a brainstorming sheet.
So glad wow has such good stories... Somewhere in a book you have to buy or hidden under a rock... Man without platinum wow id never knew about half the stories
@Rose Anne Boushard a youtuber
WE HAVE THE DUCKS NOW
I love how Blizzard calls the power source in Shadowlands 'anima'. They couldn't even be bothered to come up with a different name, just goes to show how little they cared about their story.
Just how bad Danuser is, the lore literally went bad when Metzen left after writing legion and Danuser the Sylvanas Simp took the spot.
Makes it 100 times worse when you consider, that 'anima' in latin literally means 'soul'.
Like, not only did they go the easy way with the naming, by calling the literal soul-juice 'soul', but also forgot to check if they used that term already.
Looks the same, too. So they had 2 options.
1. Say this was Ra-Dens Life force Anima.
2. Give the SL Anima a diffrent name and design.
But none of this obvious simple solutiins came to mind.
So now we'll have ducks!!
Actually, the Thunder King was foreshadowed and hinted at throughout the expansion, when finally he was revealed to have been revived in one patch. I seriously wonder why the Thunder King didn’t try to use his power to unite all of Azeroth instead of just ruling Pandarea. The guy could have armed the entire planet against all the external threats, or at least bolster its defenses, but I guess that would have not made him look much like a villain. Would actually have been cooler if the Mogu were playable with the the Thunder King being their leader, their race being wholly neutral with the players serving as mercenaries or something. But that would have been way too cool, right? Ugh, why does this game have to fall so short of everything it could be.
I think mogu wont work really good as a playable character especially if they are able to play with alliance and horde, everyone would be a mogu then bc u can just quest as alliance and horde
@@Dathrix Or like pandas?
Well its not like he didnt try. He gotta establish rule and actually govern his conquered territory no? So yeah, it wasnt so much that he only chose to rule pandaria. It was more like before his death, his empire only reached to the corners of pandaria.
@@Dathrix Pandaren/Dracthyr neutrality mechanic: Am I a joke to you?
Anyone know the song/theme played when the grummie showed up at 22:33?
Honestly feel like I’m having a Mandela effect on Asmon watching this video, or I watched the Platinum WoW version on my own time
That "grave mistake" voice line is genuinely one of the coolest in the history of gaming. I get chills every time.
Mists of Pandaria was an excellent expansion with great lore and lots of content. Great video!
Mind you, people complained about it at the time ofcourse.
The part where Sargeras killed the Titans hasnt been retconed, he did kill them, but the Titans are gods, merely losing their bodies wasnt enough so their astral forms just went away and regenerated.
I was watching this now and thinking. What did I miss, because I remember in Legion Sargeras did kill the titans and I thinking he is using their essense to empower the Burning Legion.
24:40 blizzard realised that a lot of people liked that story so they kicked him out of the writing team
The problem eith the jailer is that for all shadowland he was doing evil thing without explaining nothing, everyone are like:"yeah so he is doing bad stuff for reasons we must discover" and basically we never does that only at the end and is compleatly bullshit because it makes no fucking sense, if he was a good guy or something, why didn't he just explained everything? Why he didn't told Sylvanas why he did everything alone when he could just talk, if he is supposed to be evil you have to give a sort of evil proupose, you can't tell me he was a sort of good guy at the end, because then why did he do all those bad things tourturing people instead of talk. There's no fucking way he wanted to "unite the cosmo" also because his plan didn't looked like it was that, more like destroy it, like we all thought for a year.
Didn't we have quest chain in Kun-Lai where we tried to prevent Zandalari from taking Thunder Kings remains And that was before raid patch?
We did, and he was resurrected on the small island in the north-eastern part of Kun-Lai where there are zandalari trolls. There's also a valley up in the mountains with a bunch of tombs and the mogu and zandalari were searching for the one belonging to Lei-Shen and they got to it first.
There are rubber duck fishing bobbers but no actual ducks walking around or battle pets
Asmongold: Yeah man he went out like a boss!
Also Asmongold: God that was stupid..
The fact that Blizzard confirmed Lei Shen will win a 1V1 against the Lich King himself(Arthas, not Bolbar of course), proves that he’s the strongest mortal in the wow lore.
@@karerabbe7829 Lei Shen beat 4 wild gods with little to no effort. Xuen is pretty much immune to lightning since he himself has similar abilities, so he had to beat him into submission with his own hands, and thats why it took 30 days. While yes there are examples of weak titan watcher as you fight some of them as trash mobs (although players were not only powerful themselves but also had the strongest weapons in lore and they were empowered), some titan watchers are actually really strong. Remember titan watchers fought equally and eventually defeated the elemental lords, are you implying that Lich King could fight Ragnaros in a 1v1 and win ?
Especially when you consider the fact that wild gods, althought vary in strength there are some good examples. Malorne who fought archimonde and Sethralis who fought Mythrax, and her own self destruction, annihilated the entire Vol'Dun area similar to what happened to Uldum. Lich King never had power of that magnitude . His strength comes from the endless undead army, not necessarily from pure power
@@karerabbe7829 Lei Shen may not be able to beat ragnaros but he is for sure on a tier of the strongest beings in azeroth. He beat 4 wild gods. There are examples where wild gods are actually pretty strong considering the many characters warcraft has. Sethralis as i mentioned blasted the entire zone of vol'dun. Pretty much the same things that happened with Uldum. So Lei Shen fought 4 wild gods who should be on that level of strength more or less. Lich King never did anything close to that.
If you think LK would beat Archimonde, you are so wrong. Based on what exactly ? Archimonde and Kil'jaeden never feared the LK himself. Its his army that is a problem. To give you an idea how strong Archimonde and Kil'jaeden is. Only they could defeatt Azshara pre-N'zoth power up. She shielded her palace during the Sundering for quite some time, and thats insane considering the sundering had enough force to split continents. You realise how big that feat is ? And Malorne fought Archimonde who is superior to that level of power ? Yeah Lei Shen is an absolute beast and LK is no where near close to that level. Dont confuse powerscaling with how much better character he is
Another thing to note. If you think Ra-Den is weak you have no idea, he together with Helya forged the 4 elemental planes and sealed, the elements (including Ragnaros and the others) in those pocket dimensions. So Lei-Shen also has enough power to create a pocket dimension at least a small one (not saying that he could make another elemental plane by himself but since it was only Ra and Helya he should have at least half the power required to create one)
You also avoided the question : Could LK beat Ragnaros ? You just responded with another question about Lei-Shen if he could beat Ragnaros. The answer is simple if Lei-Shen cant, LK definetely cant do shit against any of the elemental Lords. Atleast Lei-Shen can fight for some time considering he has powers of a titan watcher who fought these elemental lords
Only reason the panda people lost because PO was busy fighting the Peacock in Kungfu panda 2 and he didn't know his people existed NGL
YOU.
YOU HAVE EARNED MY IRE.
I SHALL MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF YOU SUCH THAT ALL WHO LOOK APON MY MIGHT SHALL TREMBLE AND SUBMIT.
As much as i like PlatinumWow he got some details wrong. First Ra-Den never took Lei Shen to the Thunderous Mountain, all transpired in the Mogu-Shan vault. Second Lei Shen took Aman`thuls energy, which Ra-Den had stored away and showed Lei Shen as proof of his claim. After that he overpowered Ra-Den. Which in my opinion is far more impressive than striking him from behind.
Might be conflicting sources. Pandaria had a lot of stories like that where there were many legends about certain events went. I recall the Thundering Mountain-scenario being how the tale was told in-game before the Chronicles.
@@Dreamfillah Propably, my version was from the Chronicles. It still looked a little dumb with the pole..
Michael Stackpole wrote some TERRIFIC novels for BATTLETECH back 30 years ago.
They certainly took the universe in a decided direction that was overpowering to the entire genres storyline.
But never the less stories were great reads. Combined with William Keiths novels, wich you should read first as they are smaller in scope, and you have great stories to read.
My first introduction to WoW was Mop,Nostalgia. Great content
We finally have the technology for ducks
The tangled web meme will always be funny.
Theres ducks in Runescape !
With Dragonflight we got some ducks boys!!!!
Varian unequipped his Shoulders so he had enough stamina to survive the fall but not enough to stop those 2 random aa's from the Legion Soliders.
5:45 Rubber Duck: Am I a joke to you?
17:22 30 DAYS of straight fighting!?!?! THAT'S AN ANIME FIGHT!
Thunder King story is both in books and in game just talk to Lorewalker Cho, lore like this and chronicles actually make sense being in a book since they happen long before the story of the playable game, current one is the one that should be all in game but adding cutscenes for everything isn't a good solution, instead the story can be told by the npc in game as things happen preferably with voice acting, this way people can know the story without breaking the flow of the game.
Also it perfectly normal for it to be anima both in Azeroth and SL since races in Azeroth didn't had access or much knowledge about SL.
6:03 drooly mcdrooler
24:32 Because Asmon, good storywork hurts the brain of the executives and the game developers so all the good story is relegated to books and obscure flavor text that the big devs never see.
Mists of Pandaria was terribly underrated tbh.
I might be a history nerd but I think, Lei Shen story is basically based on Emperor of Qin Shi Huang, founder of the Qin dynasty who unified all independent kingdoms in the present area, China to Da Qin (Qin Dynasty) much like constant state at war with each other Mogus. Even serpent spine, is Great Wall of China and the end of Lei Shen at forge of origination that led Mogu Empire never recovered again, much like fall of Qin dynasty after Emperor Qin Shi died.
Don't get me wrong, I love Lei Shen story so much.
I thought the same thing back during MoP. If you're going to base a villain for a China themed expansion on anyone, then go for one of the best.
Qin Shi Huang is a historic figure I find fascinating, as an example of how sometimes, you need a monster to get things done. Nobody but a maniacal tyrant would have been willing to bust heads and conquer by force to end the Warring States period.
24:38 me the past years of wow
One doesn’t experience self transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates 🎈
Ironic that they put so much effort into making ducks for the Dragonflight expansion, that it was among the main features of the expansion... Ducks.
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aren't there critter ducks similiar to critter chickens?
No. I think the only physical duck reference is the Legion fishing bobber. Other than that, it's possible that there's a cooked duck food item, or a duck float that goblins use in their pools.
I think you're talking about the shore birds in Legion and BfA. Sandpipers, not ducks.
LEI SHEN DID NOTHING WRONG !
6:50 Lei Shen: What is my purpose?
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Oh boy.
6:03 actual drooler
Blizzard killed off or changed all the characters drastically after WotLK. They basically erased all of the old wow content and remade each expansion as reboots after WotLK too and none of the sheep noticed.
i am the storm that is aproaaaaching....provoooooking....black clouds in isolation
We went to the shadowlands and learned all about death, except for why we can wipe and resurrect a thousand times, but the main characters cannot resurrect xD.
With the exception of the player Demon Hunter who possesses the same Immortal soul like Illidan and can thus keep returning from death, noone else has such a soul and really outside specific raid enounters where we get 'killed' like ICC and Antorus(?) we arent technically getting killed anywhere else and in those 2 we get instanly ressed back.
There is a duck in WoW. The Sqeaky Duck bobber for fishing. Came out in legion. 😆
In varians defence he just got done going ham against a giant demon and then an army after, yeah 2 are eventually gonna get him, and it was from behind!
Won't come back unless wrathion gets killed and they recover his heart. Which I wouldn't mind happening. Thunder King is more interesting than most characters in WoW today
Asmongold needs to react to all the newer one's to be fair
Hope he does it :D
If all of this lore was known to the playerbase as warcraft 3 was prior to wrath of the lich king, then the thunder king patch would've been immensely more succesful.
Jesus christ, they write better and more lore for one fucking patch in MoP than all of shadowlands
I never really bothered much with lore, I mean I picked bits and pieces, but this was an actual cool story
takes out the Fel-Reaver and ends up dying to the trash mob respawn
Zandalari+Pandaren= Master Lore
Lei Shen did nothing wrong!
If you wanna know how the time line works look up “the good place - how time timeline works in the afterlife” cause it’s how it legit works in wow.
Ra'den just went to the store for smokes he will be right back
There are no ducks in WoW, *True*.
There are, however, Rubber Ducks. Which only raised further questions
They could have built the entire MoP expansion on the Thunder King and I would have been fine with it.
He should not forget to watch the Scarlet Crusade video aswell, its so good
This is like an entire expansions worth of material… but nah, gotta worry about what is to come
As someone who speaks dutch, the dutch moment was amazing
He’s the Warcraft version of genghis khan
Next Xpac: World of Warcraft: Duckflight
i got the mount 1st run :P and mimirons head from ulduar ...my achievments dungeon completed same day mount obtained :( i quit playing years ago not even weeks after i got the mounts ...its just boring now
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Seems like Thunder king did conquer Blizzard and anima system was born
I miss mop. i had more fun leveling in mop than cata. i know there will probably be a cata classic but i dont really care for cata. the only place that was cool in cata was uldum ironically.
im bloody 61 and love these stories mind you i have been playing wow since about 2005
that boat scene actually made laugh out loud.
and now we have a fking duck in the bank in our main city that doesn't STFU
Now, this is what you call a strong god damn MF king, THUNDER KING !!! Rules
Say whatever you want but you gotta admit that Platinum WOW really does awesome videos :D
Loved this. I don't even play WOW- I just freakin love you Asmon- can you narrate my life
Varian, at least, got to do something cool before he got ganked by thrash mobs, unlike a certain troll.
Hope they don't pull a Borderlands 3 and kill off all the old important characters in favor of some "new and hip" Scrappy Doo types like Ava.
I've never even played WoW, but this was an awesome video
I can't stop laughing at lei shen shaking his head
had an entire asia themed expansion too, no ducks