Repentance is not, I repeat, NOT a work.
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And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Jonah 3.10
The 119th chapter of psalms give the best examples of repentance in the entire Bible. It’s basically the Psalmists living by God statutes and then straying away from them and then God chastising the Psalmists and then the Psalmists coming back to live by the statutes of God…it’s a constant big circle of repentance. In all of the Bible verses that have the word repentance in them, the vast majority of them are the repentance of turning away from sin.
This is before the Christ and before the cross...things changed when Christ paid the price for our salvation..
@@djaconettayeah things did change when Jesus died but it's not what you think it's definitely not so we can continue in being in bondage to sin there's a lot of Christians to believe the only reason why Jesus came here to be tortured for us so we can continue in our sin and please I reflect because we could never follow the law, so Jesus came here to die on the cross to be tortured so we can continue in our sins. This is the false Doctrine that's being teached today!!!!
But you have to distinguish who they're talking to? Who is directed to if it's talking about salvation? We're talking about fellowship rebounding. Getting back into fellowship, that's the question repentance. For salvation, it's only a change of mind and your attitude towards Christ. Period that is the only thing that saves. And that is the only thing, a spiritually dead person. The unbeliever can do, and it doesn't involve works. It's nonmeritorious, and at that moment, turn off the Holy Spirit take. Mustard seed of faith.
It makes it effective for our salvation. Along with that and at the same time, 39 other things are the believers at that point period one of them. One of them we are placed by the Holy Spirit in Union with Christ. That is in Christ.
We are justified, we are sanctified. You become a child of God. We are born again. We have eternal life and many. Many more all at the same time before we did one thing in the Christian life. That's grace
@@djaconetta everything you have said I used to believe but when you really dig into it and study the whole Bible I mean really get into it that is definitely a foundation and I do agree with that but that's not all it is did you read Titus 2 he says he gives us a brand new heart once we are saved with this new heart we are able to walk in righteousness with Jesus Christ just like he wants us to that's why he tells you in many places in the first is to walk in righteousness how can we walk in righteousness with Christ if we are bound in sin by the devil! It's impossible! In order to be saved we need to have faith and our savior Jesus of course we know that now we need to show this faith so we show this Faith by our works because if we have the true faith for Jesus to save us we will have to work to show this this is not just in Paul it's all over in the New Testament I'm not sure why Christians choose not to believe this but it's a deception and this is why the Lord tells us faith without works is dead. If you have the faith you're going to have the works to show it if you don't have the faith you will not have the words to show it. So if you want I have scripture to show this I have scripture about repentance as well we need to walk in righteousness. You are preaching we can still walk in sin and be saved is this correct? If so can you prove to me with Jesus said you can walk and sin and still be saved I will believe you I have never found it anywhere in the Bible myself.
The thing you're missing is that it is not we who change our mind, but the Holy Spirit who changes our mind. In fact we are given the mind of Christ, and this by being joined to Him in the Spirit.
This is amazing
For with the heart one believes and is justified. JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH ALONE.
Yes but even Jesus commanded repentance to the churches in the book of revelation
Repentance is vital for the Christian walk
As a Catholic i approve of this from Todd. Faith only justifies if it connects us to the love of God which is poured into his heart. This is what repentance is. It is turning from darkness to the divine nature. Canon 9 of the council of trent saya exactly what todd friel is saying here.
We who know the Scriptures know it says that a true believer has turned from sin, and continues to turn from sin by confession to God and one another, turning away from it. Those who say otherwise contend with Scripture. Those who contend with Scripture are, by definition, heretics. Deal with them gently and lovingly, contending for their soul to come to repentance. Faith without repentance is not faith. Pray that the Lord calls those to repentance; if you have been called, we too must extend the same grace to all that we have been given. Forgive, or we will not be forgiven. Peace to the Church.
”So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.“
Romans 10:17
It all depends on what you mean by repent or repentance...what is the object and so on. If it is a change of mind ,then it is not a work. If it is a change of life style ,then it is a work or a process. The ladder is what the Roman Catholic Church teaches that the sacraments are not a work ,when they are.
Some scary comments, here. Have any of you read Acts and the writings of Paul, or do you think Scripture is unnecessary to your walk with God?
”But if they do not obey, They shall perish by the sword, And they shall die without knowledge.“
Job 36:12 NKJV
explain? I would like to know more of what you speak of
Yeah I noticed a lot of people are relying on Paul because it's very easy to take his stuff out of context so they can continue to walk in their flesh, and we know what happens when you walk in the flesh the flesh comes first. What does the Bible say God says I'm a jealous God there is no other gods before me!!! So when you are out there in the world please in your flesh what are you doing your flesh is the god before God worldly desires and sins come first, this is why he says to walk in tremble in fear and obey the Lord so you will not want to do the things of the flesh without obedience and fear, you're still going to walk in the flesh because the flesh is weak he's going to give us a new heart so we will be able to walk in righteousness with Jesus and we will not stay in bondage to sin!!!
nobody's debating whether christians should stop sinning, but rather if TO BE SAVED 1) one must first repent of all their sins and 2) believe in Jesus Christ's new covenant. This is the Gospel of Salvation that is being taught by many. however, these same preachers do not present a) a comprehensive list of all that is sins so that one can know that they've done #1, and b) for how long must they be perfectly sinless and then believe in Christ to enter the promise of salvation (a day, week, month, 3 years)? so, if this is your gospel then you must answer when would someone know they've satisfactorily repented of their sin to be considered SAVED?
No where does it say in the N.T. you must repent of you sins to be saved..I challenge anybody to come up with a vs in the Bible that says directly you can lose your salvation. Not verses you think mean it but on that actually says you loose it. I will give a verse that says directly says with no doubt. At the moment you believe in Christ ,you are saved forever . If this were true ,it would be plainly stated though out the N.T. It isn't
@@djaconetta I don't know of vs "Repent of your sins" nor do i know of "lose your salvation". However, even saved, one still has free will and can forfeit their salvation by seizing to believe, but not lose it. Parable of 10 virgins, 5 walk away, the Great Apostasy, can't apostatize if u never believed, Hebrews 6:4-6 also says so. Technically, once saved always saved is true, but one is saved at the resurrection, until then we have the promise and hope of salvation. David Pawson has a good teaching on this, don't have it handy, u'll have to search his channel if interested.
@@leroybroun4106 waiting for the whole of salvation at the resurrection is not with the Bible teacher ACCTS 16; 1631 tells us exactly when we're saved completely and that is at the moment we express Faith and faith alone in Jesus Christ
@@djaconetta we have to take all the verses in totally; yes, we are as good as saved as long as we continue in the faith, because God's promises are as good as fulfillment, but technically we are not saved until we are part of the 1st resurrection. you asked for Bible verses and i gave them to you. It's up to you to decide to ignore and only consider verses that seem to agree we your preconception. myself, i want to understand scriptures; not interested in denominational doctrines. Logically, God cannot have His Kingdom full of unbelievers and idolaters or we're gonna have the same rebellion problems as today. also see the parable of the sower, clearly depicting some initially believing but then walking away intentionally.
At the moment you believe in Christ ,you are saved forever . If this were true ,it would be plainly stated though out the N.T. It isn't.... this sentence it would be plainly stated though out the N.T. It isn't. What does N.T. mean? first off and what is the it you refer to in your sentence? it isn't you stated what isn't? @@djaconetta
Repentance is a gift, not a given. Ask an addict who has tried to quit, and could not until God took it.
That addict has to address his sin and his need for God in the first place and seek forgiveness that is found in the cross and put his faith in God that God will take him out of that addiction. So it still requires a fight and faith from the addict. It’s not a gift to those who don’t want it or don’t seek it.
agreed... tried on my own to quit. 3 years of the same viscous cycle, asked Jesus to come into my life and help save me. Quit in one weeks time. Now thats the best treatment plan ive ever seen, praise Jesus Christs name for his salvation. Not only here on earth but after I pass he will still be saving me.
@@marcussmith4913 Same here!
The Bible also says that god repented is god a sinner no he is not he changed his mind about what he was going to do
True repentance is when you feel bad about what you did, you're genuinely sorry about what you did, you want to make things right with the people you wronged, and you want to try to not make the same mistakes again. When someone is only sorry that they got caught, it's not true repentance.
A lot of street preachers preach that when someone becomes saved, they stop sinning. When someone becomes a Christian, they still sin, still have sin weaknesses, still have sin struggles, still make mistakes in life, still aren't perfect, etc but they aren't slaves to sin, don't live lifestyles defined by sin, etc.
Preaching repentance is how you get saved isn't preaching that good works save someone. Good works don't save people. The reason why good works don't save people is because no one is good enough to earn heaven on their own. The reason why no one is good enough to earn heaven on their own is because all people are born being slaves to sin due to everyone descending from Adam and Eve. Even really good people who aren't Christians are still slaves to sin. People can't change from being a slave to sin to not being a slave to sin on their own. The only way someone can change from being a slave to sin to not being a slave to sin is by accepting Christ in their heart and meaning it in their heart, repenting and turning away from being a slave to sin, surrendering their life to Christ, putting their trust in Jesus, etc.
Yes turning from sin is not the same as repentance when talking about salvation the Bible says to repent and believe the gospel which means to change your mind and believe the gospel
Buddy the Bible says to believe and have faith in Jesus, repentance is turning away from your sin because we cannot continue to be in sin we cannot continue to walk in sin, and the reason why he is saying to believe in Jesus and have faith it's because if you did you will have the gift of the Holy Spirit and you will turn away from your sin. Jesus gives us a brand new heart so we will walk with him in righteousness and we will be in bondage with him in righteousness and we will not be in bondage to send anymore!!!!
@@truthnow902 repentance does not mean turn from sin it means to change your mind God repented is he a sinner? No of course not. When the bible says to repent and believe the gospel, it’s saying to change your mind from unbelief to belief.
Turning from sin is a work we are not saved by works
@@shanesettle2115 where are you learning this garbage from turning away from sin is obedience and fear of the Lord, buddy you need to read your Bible he tells us we need to turn away from sin we are going to turn away from sin once we are saved because in Titus 2 he tells us he gives us a brand new heart and when we get this new heart we turn from sin we walk in righteousness with him if we are in bondage of sin we cannot be saved he tells us to be in bondage to righteousness pick up our cross and walk with him, you're being deceived!!!
@@shanesettle2115 of course you're supposed to believe I'm not denying that and you're supposed to have faith I'm not denying that neither, even the demons believe are they saved? Why do you think he said that even the demons believe because he said it for no reason because he was bored. No he said that because with belief there has to be change you have to turn from your sin and walking righteousness with him he says if you're in sin you're in bondage to sin!!!! And he tells you if you are in sin you're of the Father the devil!!! Why do you think the demons cannot be seen because they're not turning from their sin they don't want to repent and stop even though they believe he says they're still not saved, because they don't want to repent and turn from their sin they still want to continue in their sin!!! So he's telling us if they're not saved the Fallen Angels because they didn't turn from their sins what makes you think we will be this is his example!!!
But if you are saved and you need to repent all the time you doing something wrong, this means you're not changing you didn't get a new heart you're not giving your life to Christ 100% you're not walking the walk with Jesus that means you're still in bondage to sin and not in bondage to righteousness if you're not in bondage to righteousness guess what you're in big trouble!!!!!
Calvanists…. Oy!( Lutherans and catholic too)
2 Corinthians 7:10For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.
Acts 26:19 “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20 but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.
Matthew 12:41The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is her
What did the people of Nineveh do?
Jonah 3:7This is the proclamation he issued in Nineveh:
“By the decree of the king and his nobles:
Do not let people or animals, herds or flocks, taste anything; do not let them eat or drink. 8 But let people and animals be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. 9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish.”
10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.
You know… that cleanse your hands purify your heart thingy that y’all say can’t be done because you believe in the lie of “ born corrupted “ instead of it being something you do just as righteousness is something you do!
Red letters( even though you certainly don’t use them for doctrine) … these are AFTER He was sitting on the throne!
Rev2:4Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love. 5 Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place-unless you repent.
Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Turning away from your sins is a work, stop exalting yourself, you are not sinless, no one is, our salvation is achieved through faith in Jesus Christ, and his sacrifice for our sins (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
Old test rules...things changed when Christ paid the penalty for sin . From that point on ,sin was not an issue in salvation but rather what think of Christ became the issue..Acts 16:31 John 3:16 John 6,:35-40, John 10 27-30 Rom 8,1+2 1 Peter 1;:1-5
@@djaconetta i agree, that's what I said, we are saved by grace alone through faith alone
Jonah is part of the old testament, however jonah 3:10 is not a rule, it simply explains how God sees turning away from your sins as works. That does not change from their dispensation to ours, that's just how it is.
Absolutely
@@djaconetta Glad we could come to an understanding, I wish there were more likeminded people here though, unfortunately it's all people who believe in a work based salvation.
so what you are saying is.. Repent is to change your mind and try to turn away from sin. As long as we are trying to do better and following Jesus we will be good? This makes sense to me because there are so many sins. Even sins I dont know im committing just doing stuff out of habbit. Little by little each day I better myself but its a working progression.@@thwartz
So he doesn’t sin ig
It’s alarming how many people actually believe they can keep on sinning with no remorse and enter into life. Friend, Repentance has clearly meant to change your mind in Greek (Mentaneo)/have remorse or regret in Hebrew (Teshuva); both throughout the entire Bible resulting in a turning from sin. It did not suddenly change its meaning after thousands of years. If you have unrepented sin in your life, know that Christ says you will by no means enter into His kingdom. “NARROW is the gate.” That means to change your mind about it and continually turn away (doesn’t mean you won’t stumble, but you can stop). Fight! Christ died to give you that chance (grace).
Mentaneo does not mean to feel remorse..that would be menamellomi spelt wrong. that is not used ,no remorse in Mentaneo.
@@djaconetta go and look up the meaning of metanoia in the Greek lexicons. You’ll see for yourself what it says. It does not just change of mind
@@everykneeshallbowzao No it has an object ,It say ,change your mind about what...The object is sometimes In the sentence and sometimes it is not. For example when Peter said 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. If you think that the object of repent is sin in this passage ,you would be wrong...The object is Jesus Christ...Repent means in this passage to change your mind about Jesus Christ...Acts 16:31 Your attitude toward Christ determines your eternal future.
@@everykneeshallbowzao I have a much better source ,My pastor..he is a scholar with 9 years of Greek ,5 years of Hebrew and 5 year of Latin under his belt. Reads and right all these languages. Has been exegeting the word of God for 51 years from the original languages not the English.. He has no axe to grind and doesn't lean towards any denomination. Just tells it like it is..Once you study under him as he breaks down and corrects some of the translations word for word ,you Never want to go back to any novice. metamelomai Is the Greek word for repentances does have a connotation of remorse, sorrow being sorry for wrong doing...But metanoia for example in 2 Cor.7:10 specifically excludes (repentance without regret) it connotes instead rational thinking and decision making
@@djaconetta trust your imaginary pastor who knows how to read and write Greek Hebrew and Latin ? Ok sure. Greek lexicons. These are original translations. Just go and see for yourself. Don’t be ignorant.
The Greek word means to change your mindset, not change your behavior. However, typically when a mind is changed, behavior follows and that is no different when the Holy Spirit occupies you. There is no such thing as repenting from sin anymore than repenting of breathing. The fact we sin almost 24 hours a day it is impossible for us to repent of sin, Jesus said this is impossible. The scripture often gets misinterpreted Repentance simply means change of mind.
But according to Hebrew and aramaic, it is much different. Repent means to turn away and go back to God
@@rickmartin541 The Bible says God repented, God cannot repent of sin, because he is sinless. I know this is a never ending debate within theological circles.
@jarodchronister3522 god never repented of sins but the sins of humanity. repent means turn away like when God turned away from our sins when we confessed that Jesus is lord and turned away from wickedness god turned away from our sins please remember repent always meant turn back from something in are case we turn back to God kinda like we are going back home remember that story about the son going back home to his father in the bible basically god wants us to come back home not of the world and it's wickedness but back home with are father in heaven so let's come back home as brothers can't you see it are dad is calling us back home
@@rickmartin541 if we can't agree on what the word repent means, then we can never see eye to eye. I believe Repent means change of mind, and that does not require change of direction but change of direction is often a result of changing ones mind.
@jarodchronister3522 Well, all I can say is you believe in the Greek transition I'm just saying in the original definition its much different repentance is a invitation from god to come back home to leave the wicked lands of this world and come back home but the most important lesson of repentance as long as it leads to god and not wickedness then that's all that matters remember we are like the prodigal son we need come back home because if we don't we will pass away in this distant country.
We must remember that repentance is given2 timothy 2:25 and that without repentance people will perish luke 13 3-5
What does repentance in this vs. mean. .what is the object of repentance...another words repent of what.? There is only one answer if you think that perish means going to hell. That is a change of mind towards Christ. that is the only thing that saves. Acts:16{31
Self-righteous Pharisee.... Simply does not understand the wickedness of the sin nature that remains within the believer. The source of assurance of salvation is found only in the promise of God. Read 1 John 5:9-13. It is wicked to rely upon your own "goodness" as evidence of salvation. Your good deeds are filthy rags. Isaiah 64:6
What if you felt so bad about your sin that you killed yourself?
Like Judas? That was not repentance but remorse
@@BurntBeatz exactly
@BurntBeatz please expound what you mean by remorse from judas??
yes I wonder about this. My friend killed himself. Is this sin forgivable? or if you kill yourself does that mean you have given up on god? I pray my friend Doug Stansbury is not in hell. He was an amazing friend and a great kid to all that delt with him.
Jonah 3 10 states turning from sin is a work. Also a great example of god repenting. Oh yeah god repented 39x in the kjv old testament. Stop preaching lies. If you believe you can add anything to christs perfect attonement your not saved. Thats not the gospel.
Repentance is a change of mind.
Turning from sins are works. Jonah 3:10.
We repent and believe by changing our mind about how self righteous we are and believe God about what he says about our sin and what He says about the Son for salvation. That is the simplicity of trusting in Christ with repentance.
Jonah 3:9 does not say repentance is a work. 1 John 3:6 says that those who go on sinning do not know God. It is also said that those who say they walk in the light yet walk in darkness are liars and the truth is not in them. So that renders your argument null and void.
@@houstonevangelicalministries Jonah 3:10 says works. Not the English translation you're reading obviously. Look at the others and look at the Greek.
Walking in the light is trusting in Christ for salvation. It's not a reference to an accumulation of good works.
Not having the truth in you doesn't mean you're not justified before God. Believers sin too. It means you don't live the truth and identity that you have in Christ and it shows by your sin. That's what it means to be a liar and not having the truth in you. If you don't grow in sanctification then you have forgotten what Christ has done for you. Remember that verse?
Believing the way you do means you don't know if you've sinned too much to not be saved, also meaning you're at least trusting partially in you're own righteousness.
How do you know if you've sinned too much to prove you were never saved?
what you say makes sense. I could never stop sinning and thats what some people here are saying must happen to be saved. I believe if repentance ment stop sinning all together, we are all totally F'd.@@elunico13
You are wrong. Stopping sinning is too a work.
@@joao70050 Jonah 3:10 KJV And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
No sir. It’s the first command given by Christ, in Matthew 4:17 and Mark 1:15.
@houstonevangelicalministries repent translate to the greek word 'Metanoia', which means to change one's mind. It does not mean stop sinning or change your mind about sinning. Just simply change your mind.
So, in the context of the verses you sent, Matthew 4:17 would simply mean change your mind for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
And Mark 1:15 would mean change your mind ye, and believe the gospel.
To my current understanding to repent is to put behind everything you thought could save you, such as your own righteousness or false religion, and believe in christ to be your only saviour.
Ephesians 2:7-8 - For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.
Repentance unlike what the "no repentance cultists" say is an essential part of coming to God.
@@RubixsGamingHD look up the actual full entry of the meaning of metanoia in the Greek. It elaborates a lot more than just a simple change of mind. This just change your mind definition has been spread by false preachers especially in the word of faith and prosperity preaching circles. They ignore the rest of the definition to suit their agenda. Just look it up in thayers Greek lexicon or other lexicons
This man is preaching a False Gospel.
He uses analogies that misrepresent scripture.
Turning from sins is a WORK in the sight of God.
Jonah 3:10 NKJV
[10] Then God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God relented from the disaster that He had said He would bring upon them....
ORDO SALUTIS: This is also neglected in the video.
I think I'm gonna start a new YT channel to expose this garbage.
Yea they turned from their wickedness and god turned away from not destroying them whats your point that verse proves people who turn away From sins get mercy from god.
I have to wonder when "christians" get upset and argumentative about turning from sin. Repentance...
Why do "christians" defend continued sin. Why doesn't sin make you sick and miserable? Knowing it is what sent Our Lord to the cross. As Christians, we all need to examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith.
@@dianemorris3536 Sin does make Christians miserable. The problem is the requirement to turn from sin in order to be saved or prove you are saved. The purpose of a Christian's life is not "stop sinning" or else. You're confused about sanctification. Remember God doesn't morph your body into a perfectly sinless being, He declares you perfectly righteous because Jesus is and died on a believer's behalf. Christians will be perfectly sinless at the final resurrection. Albeit, turning from sin is important, but has nothing to do with our justification.
The verse you quoted is 2 Cor 13:5. That is not a Christian taking inventory of their sins to see if they're in the faith. That has always been wrong. You gotta read the reason Paul says that by reading what he has been talking about. That verse is used a lot to promote a false gospel. Paul was concerned about them not believing the gospel he preached, because he wasn't a great speaker.
I guess God must be a sinner then because God himself repented and was sick of repenting. Todd you are preaching works for salvation by telling people to reform or stop doing x y z first in order to be saved. Thats keeping the law for salvation. Here is scripture to support (1 John 3:4 KJV) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Sin is transgression of the law, so what todd is saying is keep the law to be saved.
FALSE GOSPEL