"Form vs. Shape" makes me also think of Rendered vs. Flat 3D vs. Silhouette Value vs. Color They are each sort of contrasting ways to express a subject. Really helpful video, thank you!
@@TheDrawingCodex Yeah, it's certainly topical. While I'm glad you don't cash in on the commentary side of things, It would good, when things have settled down, to know if you still stick with adobe or go looking for new software/workflow. I know you dabble in procreate, but on pc, many probably feel stuck in the adobe eco system (not me personally, I like Krita)
Part of me wants to build an open source Linux workstation and escape this nonsense once and for all :) I can make a video for sure. I have been playing with many different applications lately to expand the Line and Color Academy course. I'm keen to try Krita, thanks for pointing it out.
One thing I'd also mention is the comic book black and white style, think dc/noir where Lighting is hugely important, perhaps the most important part of the image, however it's shown as flat graphic shapes, and only uses white/hatching/full black etc. Edit - nvm, you just brought up the frank muller stuff, my bad :/ Edit 2- afaik it was Syd Mead that designed the corporate/human ships in alien. Obviously Giger designed the alien, I don't know which parts Moebius was responsible for though although I know he was. Edit-edit-edit - Ron Cobb?? Edit 3- Tim's camera setup makes him look a bit like he's from Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody video :D
Hey Tim great video it got me thinking ...how do you feel about a shorthand idea like: Leaning on form over shape is useful for creating drama/tension, while leaning on shape allows for relaxed emotion in viewers. So a comic or other medium can move between them to control emotional pace of readers.
me as a beginner: shape look good! form too realistic, not my style me as an intermediate: noooo form is king! drawing is about creating forms on the page and sculpting! Shape is just an illusion! me as an advanced artist: shape look good! but form is important too, and it should inform your shape decisions.
Felt that title in my soul , been trying to imply form more these days and it’s tough
Ps. Hatching lines to illustrate planes is a good exercise
"Form vs. Shape" makes me also think of
Rendered vs. Flat
3D vs. Silhouette
Value vs. Color
They are each sort of contrasting ways to express a subject.
Really helpful video, thank you!
As I watch these, I feel a whole new world of decisions opening up. Thanks. Getting it
Thank you Mr. Tim, it's very generous of you to share your knowledge on youtube.
You've got a fantastic sort of Jonathan Frakes handsomeness man, simply a great specimen!
Another amazing video, thnx
Do you watch at 2x speed ?
As an aside, I wonder, Tim if you've heard much about the latest Adobe debacle about privacy and AI etc that's been 'popping off' the last week?
Sure have! I try and avoid that kind of news drama stuff personally. But it's pretty visible.
@@TheDrawingCodex Yeah, it's certainly topical. While I'm glad you don't cash in on the commentary side of things, It would good, when things have settled down, to know if you still stick with adobe or go looking for new software/workflow. I know you dabble in procreate, but on pc, many probably feel stuck in the adobe eco system (not me personally, I like Krita)
Part of me wants to build an open source Linux workstation and escape this nonsense once and for all :)
I can make a video for sure.
I have been playing with many different applications lately to expand the Line and Color Academy course. I'm keen to try Krita, thanks for pointing it out.
One thing I'd also mention is the comic book black and white style, think dc/noir where Lighting is hugely important, perhaps the most important part of the image, however it's shown as flat graphic shapes, and only uses white/hatching/full black etc.
Edit - nvm, you just brought up the frank muller stuff, my bad :/
Edit 2- afaik it was Syd Mead that designed the corporate/human ships in alien. Obviously Giger designed the alien, I don't know which parts Moebius was responsible for though although I know he was. Edit-edit-edit - Ron Cobb??
Edit 3- Tim's camera setup makes him look a bit like he's from Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody video :D
Haha! Yeah I'm glad you saw it coming.
Hey Tim great video it got me thinking ...how do you feel about a shorthand idea like:
Leaning on form over shape is useful for creating drama/tension, while leaning on shape allows for relaxed emotion in viewers.
So a comic or other medium can move between them to control emotional pace of readers.
For the algorithm
me as a beginner: shape look good! form too realistic, not my style
me as an intermediate: noooo form is king! drawing is about creating forms on the page and sculpting! Shape is just an illusion!
me as an advanced artist: shape look good! but form is important too, and it should inform your shape decisions.
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