Former False Prophet Andy Poland Talks about Mormonism and Feelings
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Former false prophet and now ex-Mormon Christian Andy Poland shares his testimony of how God changed his heart.
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Thus is EXACTLY what I needed to listen to tonight! I knew I would eventually find someone talking about God in a way that makes sense and deals with these basics that I've been struggling with. I'm a newly disillusioned mormon, and trying to make sense of so much. Thank you!
One of the best things anyone ever told me was "Faith is more than a feeling." Thanks for sharing.
It takes guts to actually tell people about your sins in your testimony. I’m learning this material from you guys so I can witness to Mormons. Praise God!
Praise the Lord! Many years back after having both Mormons & JW’s come to my door & feeling like I had failed miserably I began learning about both. In the process I learned so much about my faith & my God.
This is exactly what I needed Exactly when I needed. Praise the Lord.
Feelings change
Thoughts change
Ideas change
Doctrines change
The Truth does not change.
This is an amazing testimony. I, too, am an ex-mormon and I have faced similar feelings of not knowing how to trust my feelings after leaving the church. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge!
I don't hate Mormons, my heartbreaks for them. All we can do lead them to water however we can't make them drink. Fantastic breakaway testimonial for sure💕💕
This is awesome. I came out of Jehovahs Witnesses. Thank you.
Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah to Our Lord Yeshua-Jesus Christ for Freeing You from the Mormon Church!
Great testimony! Key phrase, “it was the first time I stopped fighting the Bible.” Coming out of Mormonism, this was true of my born-again conversion as well.
That was 30 years ago and the Bible has strengthened and cleansed me and given me the understanding of what repentance is all about, along with the abundant grace and mercy of God.
It is only through the Bible that we gain the understanding of Christ’s finished work on the cross and the blood He shed for us, that convicts us of sin until we cry, “Have mercy on me, O God, a sinner!” Knowing I don’t deserve His love and kindness, yet He continues to let it flow nevertheless, makes me love Him all the more.
If it weren’t for the Bible I wouldn’t know this love. The Book of Mormon didn’t teach me that, nor the Doctrine & Covenants, and the most the leadership could tell me were basic anecdotal stories of other “righteous” lives. Yes, I looked up to them as if they were God, Himself, and had a testimony, but it all came crashing down one day when I found out the foundation was built on sand. I couldn’t deny it, and since I desired God’s truth (not my own) I asked Him to show me.
He did.
Since then my foundation has been on the Rock, Jesus Christ, and not a particular church or building. Sometimes the waves are high and the oceans rage, but He continues to stand-and always will-forever. This I know.
I don’t wonder anymore why the Bible is fought against and minimized on a constant basis, even while it gives life to millions.
I know the answer to that already; the enemy wants to keep people out of the Kingdom of God. I pray for those who lose one faith, not to abandon the One and Only God, our Savior. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life-He will take you by the hand and over time, will turn your sadness into joy-if you let Him.
This is hands down the best testimony I have ever heard. Thank you so much!
So sad what happened with Andy. I am blessed to see how the Lord saved him and has used his testimony for so many. I miss you dear brother.
I have met this man and used to go to be concerned Christian meetings when I lived in Mesa. it takes strong convictions and the peace of God to be able to stand up the way he does admit his wrongs and present the gospel of grace
This was excellent! I had some Mormons come by last week and I ended up sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ with them. They are some of the sweetest kindest people but they really need the Lord.
Wow--powerful--thank you for your testimony!
Thank you for sharing your testimony with humility, wisdom, and love for people.
Mormonism is a cult. Praying for them and myself and all of you...to live in this life with God and Jesus living inside us with truth so we feel God truest in our lives.
Every mormon and those who are questioning mormonism should view this video.
There's so many religions but only one way to the Father that is Jesus and Jesus alone. The Way the Truth and Life. We are saved by Faith not works.
You know I always get so anxious when I speak with someone about God but moses had a stutter and he used him. I have some new info on the Mormon church but I also remember thinking a few times I wish Jesus would've also said this or I wish he wouldn't have said that cause it's getting twisted.
And God reminded me his word is enough. It's not my job to "win" souls that's God's job I just plnt and give them something to think about And i just remember thinking how can you read the Bible and believe these things and just like he mentioned the heart is decietful above all else and they allow it to twist what God has said as sad as it is but God is on control and those who really want to know truth will find it.
This is brilliant. This is one of the absolute best ex mormon testimonies I've heard. I'm so glad I listened to this.
Glory be to God 🙌🏼, Great testimony .
JEREMIAH 17:9 - The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
What a horrible deception is Mormonism.
God will not share his glory with another...
Thank you Andy for sharing your testimony and thank you Aaron for posting this video. I was attending a Mormon church and strongly considering joining based on feelings I was having. I talked to my brother who told me Mormonism is a cult, they do not believe in Biblical Christianity and that polygamy is still practiced in the mainstream church even though they claim it is not. I told him if this were true there would be people who have left the church and would warn others about this. This was the first video I found after talking to him. God is so good, and will give truth to those who seek it. If you are a Mormon or someone who is considering becoming a Mormon because of feelings you have had, I urge you to pray to the God of the Bible, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for truth. He will give you truth and set you free!
Faith without works is no faith at all
I wish I had seen this a week ago! I made a point to some mormons that if Lucifer had fallen from heaven because of wanting to be like God, who do they think is in charge of their church right now, teaching them to become like God? they said" its different, because Lucifer was only after power" and I said" but isnt power, in essence, the reason to be like God?"...please tell me someone,.do you think that I planted a seed?
Thank you so much for uploading this video and making it public. It has very important teachings!
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I so enjoy hearing your testimony ❤️
So glad God is so faithful and relentless in his pursuit of us. ☺️
Enough with the bashing. This man does not claim he talked to God. He claims he believed he did. I just watched all 45min and 51 seconds. He specifically says the heart is deceitful (Jerm. 17:9) His testimony is wonderful, this man DOES NOT claim to have talked to God, rather, God changed him through showing him truth, that he and you, and I cannot rely on our feelings to know truth, but through research and testing, and seeing the word of God Says. Live for Christ, guard your heart. God Bless
This was excellent, thank you for the truth!!
I am so thankful for this time. Grateful for your wisdom and thank you for being the hands and feet of Christ.
God bless you, Andy! If anyone sees this, PLEASE pray for my Mormon sister in Utah, that the Lord will open her eyes to His truth! I've prayed for her for 45 years and she still claims Mormonism is true, has raised 5 children in it and they are raising her 23 grand children in it. Nothing that I've said to her in love has made a difference, instead, she calls me a "propagandist" and my heart is broken for her and her family!
If any man cometh unto me, and hateth not his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26
I was very blessed by your testimony...thanks for sharing it...
Wow! Just the Answer i needed ~i “awakened” ~left “Mormonism “ Went back ~ But Couldn’t “ Un -See , Know or Un -Learn ,What i Know to Be False ~ CognitiveI Dissonance (Big Time ) Left Again ~ Searching Biblical Truth ( my Journey Is Amazing)~ But ~I Haven’t been able to leave behind let go of the “powerful spiritual experiences” & answered prayers i have had ~in the temple & outside of the temple ~I never knew what do I do with those “ Feelings” (and Revelations) ~Wow! it’s kind of scary though because~ Now i Have the New challenge of Sifting through My Whole life ~My “Feelings “ 😱 Didn’t know ~ I Pray Fervently for answers to my questions and the path that I need to take ~without any hidden agenda ~~~except to come closer to Christ ~the true Christ ~here’s another answer~ Thank You! ~ 🗝 Truth Matters🙏🏼💗⚖️🕊
Biblical standard for testing a prophet is do his prophecies come true and does his prophecy line up with the rest of scripture? As far as Joseph Smith is concerned he fails on both points.
@lindalds He brought up an good point that validates the trinity. In baptism, it goes, I baptize you in the ( NAME ) singular, 1 God which is, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
World: listen to your heart.
God: the heart is wicked and deceitful above all things, who can know it?
"Would you follow me if your first wife was going to die? Because that is what's going to happen." That is called being cursed by a demon.
Thank you my Lord Jesus Christ 🙏🙌❤
Your own D. Todd Christofferson recently said at a BYUI speech: "Joseph Smith’s prophetic calling is key to our religion. Without his commission from the Father and the Son, without his priesthood ordinations and the keys he received at the hands of duly appointed heavenly messengers, without the fullness of the gospel restored through his visions and revelations and his translations of the Book of Mormon and the Bible, what we would have is something much less than true Christianity."
Demons know how to give good “feelings”💀👹👹🤪👹👹💀
Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy was acknowledge him and HE shall direct thy paths.
I love how giving his testimony he was kind of awkward, struggling...but then he started to teach the bible and he was articulate, confident and clear.. 👍 God is good....
@lindalds because joseph smith was wrong a lot and Jesus never was wrong about anything.
Where will you go to when you die? Have you ever told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain, or looked at someone with lust? If yes, then you are a lying, theiving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. When you die & stand before God you'll be guilty of breaking His law. The bible says you'll end up in Hell! So God sent God His Son Jesus to die for your sins, & He rose from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus died for your sins & was resurrected) you'll be saved!
@lindalds Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
God doesn't try. God does. men try like how joseph smith tried to get his book published and failed the first time.
I appreciate the very sincere and caring approach of this topic. I've had similar struggles of receiving "false revelation" and being confused, struggling to understand the differences between my own emotions and the spirit of God - and I believe that most who seek the Spirit are bound to encounter this at some point. I think we, who are also Biblical Christians, saved by grace, have more in common than we have differences with other Christian denominations.
I think it's unfortunate that so many among us and outside of us misunderstand the scriptures and get caught up in the belief that works themselves lead to salvation and reward in heaven, rather than understanding that the reward of living the words of God is in knowing Him, and that His grace is freely given to everyone who will accept Him, regardless of their works.
I suspect that Joseph Smith, may have been much like Moses - a man with many weaknesses who committed some number of grave sins (for which he was chastised by the Lord), who wondered many years in the wilderness, who was despised and rejected by many of the people he lead, and who, due to his transgressions, did not live to dwell in the promised land.
Although various members of the Church of Jesus Christ interpret the scriptures regarding feelings of the Spirit in different ways, www.fairmormon.org/answers/Holy_Ghost/Burning_in_the_bosom gives a fairly complete overview, including Bible-based account of Jesus' disciples feeling the Spirit.
Again, I appreciate this sincere and humble perspective and I hope sharing my own perspective is taken with kindness and understanding.
Andy you are right on! The church regularly teaches warm fuzzy feelings means something is of God! Experience tells me, church members and leaders often confuse strong personal sentiment with Gods word.
ty for uploading this video..Its so refreshing to see a Mormon find the truth and how free and excited they become knowing that they can really know truth..
Mr. Poland exaggerates the importance momons place on feelings. If you listen to the verse in D&C 9:8, it says you must study it out and then ask for spiritual confirmation. This study includes using the scriptures both ancient and modern to understand God's law and His will. Continuing revelation both as a church and in the lives of individuals continues to be one of the core tenets of momonism. The heart deceives only when it is not pure. 1Timothy 1:5
@lindalds that isn't to support the claim that we hate mormons. to the contrary, if we hated mormons we wouldn't reach out to you guys. we love you and want good for ya. thats why we give you truth.
Equating "feelings = revelation" is incredibly dangerous!!!! Truth is from the Bible.
Lots of good feelings, obvious these are just self-fulfilling, in core just subjective in one's own paradigm, as feelings are what drives every human in what he does, or else we fight the feelings if they are making us do the wrong things.
Very solid and eyes opening testimony. Thank you Andy.
This answers so many questions by far the best video on this topic I have ever seen. Thank you!
Greg... actually LDS specifically base their testimonies on feelings, as per Moroni 10:4-5. The "burning in the bosom" is both emotional and physical... and considered essential to every Mormon testimony.
How ironic that while Mormons are correctly taught that just because it feels good doesn't mean you should do it... Yet... if it feels good, believe it.
Think about that.
That was amazing and eye opening
For those still searching, read "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell and "Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel.
they always say "ask God if the church is true"..i never got the feeling but i do remember the bible does state that they will show many signs and wonders ..the devil can deceive you too and give you false feelings...so be careful
This is such an eye-opening video.Thank you.
But lacking archeological/genetic evidence that fails the test too.
Excellent testimony Brother! God loves Mormons and everyone. Thank God for his grace! Thank you for your informational speech!
This video is very eye opening and he hit on something that is not always talked about today @ 28:55. Scripture is our basis for everything. Sad to hear that he is no longer with us because he did have a lot of good knowledge to share.
Based on the last comment I made, Saul/Paul studied the scriptures, and began persecuting the early Christians. His reasoning caused him to err. Through divine revelation, aka the appearance of Jesus to Paul, God (speaking of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost) let Paul know of his error and thereafter Paul became a mighty force for good in the world, acting under God's direction. It is by divine revelation, not man's reasoning alone, by which God reveals truth to the world.
@theboofooguy No, hatred because he's not defending his faith, he's attacking ours. This is what I hear him saying: "God got me out of the mormon cult by giving me false prophecy, whereby I committed adultery, thus getting me out of 'mormonism'." (which teaches such godless concepts as faith, hope, love, charity, morality, virtue, chastity, fidelity, etc.)
Powerful!!!!
Thanks for sharing !!!! God Bless you and your family
My question still is that, since the scripture in Jeremiah is telling us that we cannot trust man's emotions, thoughts or reasoning, how can we trust man to correctly interpret God's word without revelation from God? Is it that there are some which do not have deceitfulness in their hearts (or in modern terms their emotions, thoughts and reasoning) and are thus able to correctly interpret the scripture?
Why wasn't the Missouri temple ever built in Joseph Smith's generation? (D&C 84:1-5)
Wow great testimony! Be blessed!
I will be baptized in two weeks in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, does that mean my baptism wouldn't be accepted? I believe in Jesus Christ and I read the holy bible more than the book of Mormon. I am confused. :-(
all it takes is one false prophecy
The Toronto incident sounds exactly like Muhammad’s revelations. Convenient as can be. The quran and the book of mormon are the same. Not in doctrine but in made up stories about Abraham and others and also trying to sound like the actual Bible. The revelations are similar as well.
President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. It was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time. For the coming of the Lord, which was nigh, even fifty six years should wind up the scene. (History of the church, Vol. 2, page 182) Prophesy spoken by Joseph in 1835 and recorded by Oliver colliery. FAILED
Praise Jesus! BTW: *_"The strength of sin is the law."-1 Corinthians _**_15:56_* 🙌 #grace
What a blessing to hear this thanks bro for your courage and obeying God
great video
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Good presentation!
@lindalds i didn't interpret it. i posted it. your problem is not with interpretation, it is with what God has said.
@lindalds furthermore, God doesn't need to publish a book to start his church. the bible wasn't in print for centuries and what we have to day is exactly what peter paul matt luke and moses had and wrote.
thousands of discoveries of the ancient world have been uncovered BECAUSE of the bible.
what has the book of mormon shed light on that we can actually verify?
none.
This is one unique story.
@lindalds i know he didn't get it from God, the point is he said he did and thats what makes him a false prophet. i encourage you to look at the stuff that makes you feel bad and put your emotions aside for a bit to objectively review the evidence.
the person who is ruled by their emotions is a fool and the heart is deceitfully wicked above ALL things. your heart lies more than the devil. ponder that.
@lindalds There is only 1 truth to measure by. Opinions create hypocracy and Jesus said hypocracy is foolish.
Sometimes the answers to the hardest questions are the most obvious: Don't commit adultery.
The millennial reign is now it’s Christ’s elect reigning on earth from acts 2 till Christ comes back!
@lindalds you know exactly what i'm talking about. of course joseph smith wouldn't publish his failures but that doesn't mean it isn't documented. you know EXACTLY what im talking about when i refer to a mormon "prophet" saying that quakers lived on the moon.
if your god needs you to lie for him he isn't a very good god.
Satan was not created by God! God created a perfect angel called Lucifer who became Satan of his own accord!
Isaiah 14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Using your test about stealing: Murder is wrong-God of the bible says it is a sin, yet God told Abraham to murder his son-does this mean that the voice Abraham heard wasn't God?
any more than Hitler! The Bible that I have studied a lot in my life, brings up more questions than answers, and MEN decided in the counsel of Nicea which books to include, and what doctrines everyone would agree upon for their own political purposes... I address the whole "feelings" thing in my book "Escaping Religion.." Any Spirit can cause you to feel things...My husband caused the burning bosom thing after his death! Living people who are good at public speaking can transfer their emotions
Wow this amazing. Thank you so much. I did not know LDD was so feelings associated. It also brought light to when I have felt feelings as a Christian towards something when I prayed, but I have misinterpreted my feelings to mean something else.
It's like what you said, you have to weigh the fruit sometimes to see if something is of God or not.
Amen. Thanks for your testimony. God bless you.
Awesome testimony
God bless you and your wife and family..in CHRIST Jesus AMEN
@lindalds whats weird is when people lie about christianity it doesn't make me feel bad at all because i know the truth.
i have faith in christ like i have faith in the chair i sit in. i know Him, He knows me, He works in my life, and conditions me to be more like Him. there's that then the mountains of textual and archaeological evidence that supports everything written in the bible.
its two fold, God works in my life AND he's left tons of evidence for my mind to grab on to.
Every man who got an endowment on the day you did, Andy, was given "Moses."
No, Satan was created by God and fears even the holy name of Jesus. Use it often and drive Satan away.