@@CalvaryChapelFranklin. Praise Jesus! I believe in the pre tribulation rapture as well. Look up for you redemption draws near! Thank you Jesus! for your sound teaching.
Thanks for this wonderful and concise treatment of the topic. Especially in these days when the pre-trib view is under constant attack and those who hold to it are ridiculed. I’ve heard preachers say that if you hold to a pre-trib rapture, that you don’t care about the lost. My comeback is don’t you care about all the children that are being sex trafficked and abused globally? Wouldn’t you like to see that horror show end? I would. Blessings to you and your family.
Thanks for reaching out brother That’s a great response! Unfortunately, the discussion becomes rooted in things other than just the plain teaching of scripture, wish it weren’t so! God bless you bro, I appreciate the encouragement! Looking forward to seeing you one day, here, there or in the air! Maranatha
Hi Pastor Brian, kind of interesting how they have that statue that travels around called: "The Giant" (sure you've heard of it) reminds me of when they had that statue of "Nebuchadnezzar" back in that day. Makes ya wonder if they will make the public worship that Giant statue someday with maybe the image of the A.C. on it? Just a thought.
Great video! The rapture is a certain doctrine that is legitimate and scriptural. The question is not when a certain doctrine became prominent or popular but rather when it became a real doctrine.
Iraneus, the early church father, a disciple of Polycarp,who was a disciple of John the apostle believed in pretrib rapture as evidenced by his writings. It is what was originally taught.
Thanks Pastor Brian, I think Nelson Walters channel gives a lot of insight and links the letters to the 7 churches being linked to messages for the the final 7 years. The first 6 years is the tribulation period, the rapture happening at the 6th trumpet when Jesus returns and then the final year being the wrath. It’s worth checking out, maybe you will see issues with it that I can’t.
I would love to hear more about your leaving Catholicism. You mentioned in this video about the different beliefs on when the rapture might happen as not being a salvation issue. Is the core parts of what is required to be saved within the Catholic faith also? The Vatican and pope to me are clearly shady, just like the queen and royal family who were head of the Anglican Church just like pretty much all world governments are, just like pretty much all the worldly authority figures of the Bible were.
The truth is the Catholic religion believes in Faith, plus works, in order to be saved, & the truth of the matter is that Jesus/God did "ALL" the work on the cross for us, & all we have to do to be saved by Him, is Believe, in what Jesus/God did for us on the cross, believe in the gospel of Jesus. I Corinthians: 15: 1 - 4. Jesus said on the cross it is finished, He/God did it All, there's nothing we can do, & we can not do anything anyway, we are not God to be able to do it. It had to be God to do it, because we are sinners, he is God, he Is w/o Any sin, & he being God is above us, he is our creator, so it had to be him to save us no one else can/could because there's no one else above Him. :) We can't save ourselves being sinners, & we not being God ourselves. God is the only one above us. Even we have charge over the angels, & God gave us charge over the animals as He says in Genesis, so they can't save us via sacrificing them. So it's God alone, ONLY that saves us. :) Thnx be to God. :) So if/when we believe in what Jesus/God did for us on the cross to be saved "ONLY" & not believe it's also in any works we do to be saved, then we are truly saved, only then. :) God Bless you, in Jesus name. :)
@@onlyjesussaves840 thank you for your response. My question still stands though, is the core part of faith still there? Most Christians will try to live good lives whether they believe there works count for something or whether they believe their works are just an expression of their faith. Is glorifying saints and Mary as an intercessor for us a salvation issue? Is there other issues that may could cost salvation or is it just misinterpreting the Bible
@@seamusmurphy5149 First they follow the Catholic bible, not the Holy Bible, & the Holy Bible is the ONLY true inspired word of God. So pretty much anyway they believe is not truly biblical to follow at all. What truly matters is being saved, & make it to heaven to be with our Lord, & Savior, & the ONLY way to God the Father is by believing in what Jesus did on the cross period. Catholicism is Paganism plain, & simple, if you're in it, I'd get out of it if I were you. They do believe in faith plus "their" works to get to heaven, & believing that right there will send you to Hell plain, & simple. I'm sorry to tell you this, but it really, truly is the truth, & I'm telling you this because I really do care. :) Believe in Faith Only in what Christ/God did on the cross, & not of our works to get to heaven, & you're saved, & going to heaven. :) Hope this is of some help anyway. Love, & God Bless! :)
@@seamusmurphy5149 yes,glorifying Mary and the saints is an issue. Former Catholic here. It is idol worship,period. Although Catholics are taught it is "glorifying" rather than worship, anytime a prayer is offered to a dead person, it is idol worship. Deuteronomy is clear about that. The thing that determines salvation is faith alone in what Jesus accomplished through His suffering. There is nothing that one's works can accomplish for salvation. Salvation is a free gift,not earned by works. Good works follow as a result of being saved. Not the works earning the salvation.
I have a confusing question to ask, and I only ask because I want to understand....If the Bride of Christ, which are us, those in this time period who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior and are saved by faith in Him and by Grace, are Raptured so to not endure the Wrath of God, because Jesus would not allow His bride to go thru that, does that mean those that are saved during the Wrath of God are not the Bride of Christ?? I know they are called "Tribulation Saints" but does that mean they are not considered the Bride of Christ and they are no longer saved by faith and Grace? It's confusing to me.
Very good question. Thinking since they can still be saved during the tribulation period, it must be by faith, by God's grace even though they are not in the dispensation of God's grace, but they will have to die for their faith in Jesus, but some do survive the tribulation period to the end of it when Jesus comes back at His 2nd coming, & w/o taking the mark of the beast of course, & some people believe that the marriage supper would take place in the Millennial Kingdom rather than up in heaven during the 7 yr. tribulation period, I went back & forth on this myself, & settled on the marriage supper of the Lamb being up in heaven, during the 7 yr. trib. because feel it may be for the people saved in "this" dispensation, the dispensation of God's Grace, & thinking because those tribulation saints didn't get saved till the tribulation being (a different dispensation then the age of grace period) that maybe they would have their own celebration on earth, speaking of the saints that survived the trib. that is. Then the ones who got born again in the trib. that were martyred for their faith, "maybe" they would have their own special celebration if you will, in heaven during the trib. I believe they will be rewarded the "Martyr" crown, that "we" will not get for obvious reasons, so since they will be rewarded such a crown, maybe they would have their own celebration in heaven, of course some of this is just speculation on my part, & the bible, may, or may not, touch on this, I'm not sure, but it is neat to think about. Love talking about this stuff, finding not too many people dig in like this about it. Hope it was a "little" help anyway, but thank you for listening. Love, & God Bless in Jesus name! :)
John 3:7 Nice discussion . I believe you are right on. The Trib. Saints , that survive the trib, as well as the remnant of the Nation of Israel, will have the honor, of repoppulating the World in their natural bodies ,during the Mellinium
@@carlperry5932 Hi Carl, thanks for the comment. :) Yes, they sure will, my understanding is we won't in our new glorified bodies, might be incorrect there, but is my understanding, & we will be ruling, & reining with Jesus in the Millennial Kingdom, as I understand it, whatever that "actually" means, not exactly sure. I heard one Pastor mention that only actual "Pastors" who are truly born again in this life, will be ruling, & reining, in the Millennial Kingdom, & no one else, but it seems we all will who are in Christ. :) God bless Carl. :)
Amen. The rock in the wilderness (Exod 17:6) was NOT supposed to be struck twice. This is because the rock was Christ (1 Cor 10:4). Christ bore God's wrath in His body on the cross (Heb 2:17) once and for all (Heb 7:27, 10:10). The Tribulation is referred to as "the time of Jacob's trouble" (Jer 30:7) to complete the 70 weeks (Dan 9:24) of the Jewish nation alone. The body of Christ cannot suffer the wrath of God twice, just as the Rock in the wilderness could not be struck twice. Jesus refers to Himself as/is called the Bridegroom (Mt 9:15, Lk 5:34-35, Jn 3:29) who comes at an hour the Bride (i.e., the Church: 2 Cor 11:2, Eph 5:25-30) does not expect (Mt 25:5-6, 13). God has not destined us to wrath (1 Thess 1:3-7) again, because Christ already bore God's wrath against sin - for us - once and for all (Isa 53).
🙏 Hello friends of pastor Brian. I have videos for you on bible prophecy and the end times. Please go to Papa Joe Fortner or shockwaves of the end times or The watchmen series with papa joe. Thank you and God bless 🙏
Read down to 7 & 8, there is the answer, no, he does not, he's revealed "after" we, the saved, are caught up/raptured. :) Thnx be to God! Think he'd be killed by Christians if he was. The Anti-Christ can not be revealed until the Restrainer who restrains the A.C. from coming unto the world scene is removed, which is the Holy Spirit w/I the born again believers in this dispensation we're in now, the age of God's grace. :)
Apostacy means a departing too,though that definition has been out of use. It was the understanding in older bibles that was what it meant. Looking at today's church though,I see loss of faith as a dual fulfillment. People are turning away from Christianity and returning to the pagan gods. I I believe in pretrib.
A thorny subject graciously and brilliantly handled. Thank you!
MARANATHA 🙌🏻 I am keeping my ears open at all times for that rapture trumpet!
Absolutely~! :)
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@@CalvaryChapelFranklin. Praise Jesus! I believe in the pre tribulation rapture as well. Look up for you redemption draws near! Thank you Jesus! for your sound teaching.
Former Catholic here too. Appreciate your quiet explanations.
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Hi Haviv, welcome
Good work!! Please keep bringing the prophecy videos! Thanks
Very good explanation. Thanks for leaving a transcript so I could look up some things :)
Thanks Pastor Brian. Always good to be encouraged as we run the race set before us. Be blessed.
Thanks for this wonderful and concise treatment of the topic. Especially in these days when the pre-trib view is under constant attack and those who hold to it are ridiculed. I’ve heard preachers say that if you hold to a pre-trib rapture, that you don’t care about the lost. My comeback is don’t you care about all the children that are being sex trafficked and abused globally? Wouldn’t you like to see that horror show end? I would. Blessings to you and your family.
Thanks for reaching out brother
That’s a great response! Unfortunately, the discussion becomes rooted in things other than just the plain teaching of scripture, wish it weren’t so!
God bless you bro, I appreciate the encouragement!
Looking forward to seeing you one day, here, there or in the air!
Maranatha
Love it
Hi Pastor Brian, kind of interesting how they have that statue that travels around called: "The Giant" (sure you've heard of it) reminds me of when they had that statue of "Nebuchadnezzar" back in that day. Makes ya wonder if they will make the public worship that Giant statue someday with maybe the image of the A.C. on it? Just a thought.
I had the same thoughts
@@BlessedForever888 :)
Absolutely!! That technology will be used by the ac !
@@carlperry5932 Yeah, thinking that too.
Great video! The rapture is a certain doctrine that is legitimate and scriptural. The question is not when a certain doctrine became prominent or popular but rather when it became a real doctrine.
Think it "May" go back to the dead sea scrolls, "may" being the key word here.
Iraneus, the early church father, a disciple of Polycarp,who was a disciple of John the apostle believed in pretrib rapture as evidenced by his writings. It is what was originally taught.
the issue is timing
The Rapture is definately a biblical doctrine.
when is always the question. I am preparing for persecution.
As we should! (2 Tim. 3:12)
Thanks Pastor Brian, I think Nelson Walters channel gives a lot of insight and links the letters to the 7 churches being linked to messages for the the final 7 years.
The first 6 years is the tribulation period, the rapture happening at the 6th trumpet when Jesus returns and then the final year being the wrath. It’s worth checking out, maybe you will see issues with it that I can’t.
Thanks Seamus, I’ll look it up
I would love to hear more about your leaving Catholicism. You mentioned in this video about the different beliefs on when the rapture might happen as not being a salvation issue.
Is the core parts of what is required to be saved within the Catholic faith also?
The Vatican and pope to me are clearly shady, just like the queen and royal family who were head of the Anglican Church just like pretty much all world governments are, just like pretty much all the worldly authority figures of the Bible were.
The truth is the Catholic religion believes in Faith, plus works, in order to be saved, & the truth of the matter is that Jesus/God did "ALL" the work on the cross for us, & all we have to do to be saved by Him, is Believe, in what Jesus/God did for us on the cross, believe in the gospel of Jesus. I Corinthians: 15: 1 - 4. Jesus said on the cross it is finished, He/God did it All, there's nothing we can do, & we can not do anything anyway, we are not God to be able to do it. It had to be God to do it, because we are sinners, he is God, he Is w/o Any sin, & he being God is above us, he is our creator, so it had to be him to save us no one else can/could because there's no one else above Him. :) We can't save ourselves being sinners, & we not being God ourselves. God is the only one above us. Even we have charge over the angels, & God gave us charge over the animals as He says in Genesis, so they can't save us via sacrificing them. So it's God alone, ONLY that saves us. :) Thnx be to God. :) So if/when we believe in what Jesus/God did for us on the cross to be saved "ONLY" & not believe it's also in any works we do to be saved, then we are truly saved, only then. :) God Bless you, in Jesus name. :)
@@onlyjesussaves840 thank you for your response. My question still stands though, is the core part of faith still there? Most Christians will try to live good lives whether they believe there works count for something or whether they believe their works are just an expression of their faith.
Is glorifying saints and Mary as an intercessor for us a salvation issue? Is there other issues that may could cost salvation or is it just misinterpreting the Bible
@@seamusmurphy5149 First they follow the Catholic bible, not the Holy Bible, & the Holy Bible is the ONLY true inspired word of God. So pretty much anyway they believe is not truly biblical to follow at all. What truly matters is being saved, & make it to heaven to be with our Lord, & Savior, & the ONLY way to God the Father is by believing in what Jesus did on the cross period. Catholicism is Paganism plain, & simple, if you're in it, I'd get out of it if I were you. They do believe in faith plus "their" works to get to heaven, & believing that right there will send you to Hell plain, & simple. I'm sorry to tell you this, but it really, truly is the truth, & I'm telling you this because I really do care. :) Believe in Faith Only in what Christ/God did on the cross, & not of our works to get to heaven, & you're saved, & going to heaven. :) Hope this is of some help anyway. Love, & God Bless! :)
@@seamusmurphy5149 yes,glorifying Mary and the saints is an issue. Former Catholic here. It is idol worship,period. Although Catholics are taught it is "glorifying" rather than worship, anytime a prayer is offered to a dead person, it is idol worship. Deuteronomy is clear about that. The thing that determines salvation is faith alone in what Jesus accomplished through His suffering. There is nothing that one's works can accomplish for salvation. Salvation is a free gift,not earned by works. Good works follow as a result of being saved. Not the works earning the salvation.
I have a confusing question to ask, and I only ask because I want to understand....If the Bride of Christ, which are us, those in this time period who have accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior and are saved by faith in Him and by Grace, are Raptured so to not endure the Wrath of God, because Jesus would not allow His bride to go thru that, does that mean those that are saved during the Wrath of God are not the Bride of Christ?? I know they are called "Tribulation Saints" but does that mean they are not considered the Bride of Christ and they are no longer saved by faith and Grace? It's confusing to me.
Very good question. Thinking since they can still be saved during the tribulation period, it must be by faith, by God's grace even though they are not in the dispensation of God's grace, but they will have to die for their faith in Jesus, but some do survive the tribulation period to the end of it when Jesus comes back at His 2nd coming, & w/o taking the mark of the beast of course, & some people believe that the marriage supper would take place in the Millennial Kingdom rather than up in heaven during the 7 yr. tribulation period, I went back & forth on this myself, & settled on the marriage supper of the Lamb being up in heaven, during the 7 yr. trib. because feel it may be for the people saved in "this" dispensation, the dispensation of God's Grace, & thinking because those tribulation saints didn't get saved till the tribulation being (a different dispensation then the age of grace period) that maybe they would have their own celebration on earth, speaking of the saints that survived the trib. that is. Then the ones who got born again in the trib. that were martyred for their faith, "maybe" they would have their own special celebration if you will, in heaven during the trib. I believe they will be rewarded the "Martyr" crown, that "we" will not get for obvious reasons, so since they will be rewarded such a crown, maybe they would have their own celebration in heaven, of course some of this is just speculation on my part, & the bible, may, or may not, touch on this, I'm not sure, but it is neat to think about. Love talking about this stuff, finding not too many people dig in like this about it. Hope it was a "little" help anyway, but thank you for listening. Love, & God Bless in Jesus name! :)
John 3:7
Nice discussion .
I believe you are right on.
The Trib. Saints , that survive the trib, as well as the remnant of the Nation of Israel, will have the honor, of repoppulating the World in their natural bodies ,during the Mellinium
@@carlperry5932 Hi Carl, thanks for the comment. :) Yes, they sure will, my understanding is we won't in our new glorified bodies, might be incorrect there, but is my understanding, & we will be ruling, & reining with Jesus in the Millennial Kingdom, as I understand it, whatever that "actually" means, not exactly sure. I heard one Pastor mention that only actual "Pastors" who are truly born again in this life, will be ruling, & reining, in the Millennial Kingdom, & no one else, but it seems we all will who are in Christ. :) God bless Carl. :)
@@onlyjesussaves840 Thank you for that explanation! That does make it more clear to me as well!
Amen.
The rock in the wilderness (Exod 17:6) was NOT supposed to be struck twice. This is because the rock was Christ (1 Cor 10:4). Christ bore God's wrath in His body on the cross (Heb 2:17) once and for all (Heb 7:27, 10:10). The Tribulation is referred to as "the time of Jacob's trouble" (Jer 30:7) to complete the 70 weeks (Dan 9:24) of the Jewish nation alone. The body of Christ cannot suffer the wrath of God twice, just as the Rock in the wilderness could not be struck twice.
Jesus refers to Himself as/is called the Bridegroom (Mt 9:15, Lk 5:34-35, Jn 3:29) who comes at an hour the Bride (i.e., the Church: 2 Cor 11:2, Eph 5:25-30) does not expect (Mt 25:5-6, 13). God has not destined us to wrath (1 Thess 1:3-7) again, because Christ already bore God's wrath against sin - for us - once and for all (Isa 53).
🙏 Hello friends of pastor Brian. I have videos for you on bible prophecy and the end times. Please go to Papa Joe Fortner or shockwaves of the end times or The watchmen series with papa joe. Thank you and God bless 🙏
Question: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Does the Anti-Christ reveal happen prior to the rapture?
Read down to 7 & 8, there is the answer, no, he does not, he's revealed "after" we, the saved, are caught up/raptured. :) Thnx be to God! Think he'd be killed by Christians if he was. The Anti-Christ can not be revealed until the Restrainer who restrains the A.C. from coming unto the world scene is removed, which is the Holy Spirit w/I the born again believers in this dispensation we're in now, the age of God's grace. :)
Apostacy means a departing too,though that definition has been out of use. It was the understanding in older bibles that was what it meant. Looking at today's church though,I see loss of faith as a dual fulfillment. People are turning away from Christianity and returning to the pagan gods. I I believe in pretrib.