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  • @LamgiMari
    @LamgiMari 5 лет назад +34

    Here's your silver lining: Maybe we've found the solution to Fermi's paradox at last.

  • @theCodyReeder
    @theCodyReeder 5 лет назад +278

    That piece of metal was so thick! What part of rocket/satellite would that even be?

    • @votalis4089
      @votalis4089 5 лет назад +47

      My thoughts exactly, it looked more like rock. Only thing I could think of was many layers of material that had been crushed and then fused together by the heat.
      P.S. love your channel, and I see you posting on all the others I watch too.

    • @Nosirrbro
      @Nosirrbro 5 лет назад

      Just what I thought as well.
      I really can’t think of what it could have been.

    • @doktormcnasty
      @doktormcnasty 5 лет назад +15

      That there's the souvenir bit, Cody. Yeah, designed by NASA to withstand the heat & forces of reentry so that it can land in someone's attic as that lucky person's souvenir of the mission. It's a contribution comes from the uh pr department over at nasa. A little bit of the old public outreach, if you know what I mean.

    • @mindle9155
      @mindle9155 5 лет назад +20

      it was probably a mix of the metal that melted into one when it entered the atmosphere. Like maybe it was an arm for a solar panel but when it entered the atmosphere it got so hot so it melted and the air resistance molded it into that weird rock-looking thing

    • @fbabdiver
      @fbabdiver 5 лет назад +4

      MAYBE A PLUTONIUM CORE

  • @shadowraith1
    @shadowraith1 5 лет назад +488

    The one thing apparently that all humankind has in common. Where ever we go we trash the place. Rather depressing.

    • @diamondsmasher
      @diamondsmasher 5 лет назад +17

      John F The future is someone else’s problem! Literally! Yaaa!!!! Wooo!!! #holdmybeer

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 5 лет назад +17

      there are bags of astronaut poop on the moon.

    • @thehint1954
      @thehint1954 5 лет назад +19

      We can even trash places we don't go.

    • @doktormcnasty
      @doktormcnasty 5 лет назад +4

      One theory is that life is the inevitable resulting creation of a universe subjected to the laws of entropy since it is a way to speed up the process. You might say that the whole meaning of life is to turn the universe to shit faster than it otherwise would. And if you think about it, as an organism you will produce more waste products in your lifetime than anything else. You could say pollution is bad or your could just say that we're fulfilling our natural doodies, so to speak. Hehehehehe..

    • @masters.1000
      @masters.1000 5 лет назад +5

      And people like Joe wants to go to Mars or anywhere else...
      Why, we will screwed them like we trashed ours, humanity is a cáncer.

  • @pennylope8138
    @pennylope8138 5 лет назад +100

    SLAYER!!!! Joe, I respect you even more now

  • @DagarCoH
    @DagarCoH 5 лет назад +33

    I am currently working at the German Aerospace Center on the tracking for laser-based removal. From what I have heard from other scientists the estimates currently go toward popular orbits (geostationary or Low Earth Orbits) being made potentially unusable by debris. But from what I have heard, launching craft to somewhere else should even in the worst case stay possible.

    • @josephjohnson9857
      @josephjohnson9857 5 лет назад +2

      Correct, and at worst case launch something high enough to pull debris down to burn up in the atmosphere. Nothing is ever impossible, maybe improbable but not impossible.

    • @VegardFarstad
      @VegardFarstad 4 года назад

      What's your view on Starlink's potential for adding debris to LEO? I read that SpaceX programmes these to deorbit according to the agrees rules for new satellites, but there are still so many of them that I assume there's a risk of a chain reaction if two of them collide.

    • @toigatuning120
      @toigatuning120 4 года назад +1

      What about some sort of magnet system to collect metal debris and bring it back to earth to be recylced?

    • @johnmcpake1591
      @johnmcpake1591 2 года назад +1

      Turn it into a game and gamers will pay you to zap space junk 😜

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x 5 лет назад +4

    A surprising upside to the Kessler Syndrome is that such an impenetrable debris shield would protect us from alien invaders.

  • @MR3DDev
    @MR3DDev 5 лет назад +93

    Guess Space X needs to create a space vacum. Would be a nice service to sell, space cleaners

    • @joescott
      @joescott  5 лет назад +27

      As much as Elon Musk likes Spaceballs, I wouldn't rule this out.

    • @Gibson99
      @Gibson99 5 лет назад +1

      well, he has proposed using the BFS cargo to go scoop up dead stuff. can't imagine what kinda fuel requirements there would be, but if it's as reusable as they want it to be, then it's just fuel costs, with a little refurb here and there.

    • @dustinchambers4172
      @dustinchambers4172 5 лет назад

      Can a vaccum work in space? And if it can, it would need to know when its full and then know to return to Earth after it has reached maximum capacity. Or it would just add to the space debris.

    • @Gibson99
      @Gibson99 5 лет назад

      no, a vac wouldn't work, but it even if it's just going around catching things (hey maybe that's the real purpose of all the work w/ mr. steven) it doesn't necessarily have to return to earth - could just launch the items towards the atmosphere so they'd burn up on the way down. the goal is to clear an orbit.

    • @MR3DDev
      @MR3DDev 5 лет назад

      YEah we could have something that picks things up and then goes in a trayectory to the sun

  • @annieromanowski7730
    @annieromanowski7730 3 года назад +2

    Hi! I use an app called SkyView and it gives you a view of where the planets are, the sun, constellations, all that kind of stuff. It’s so cool! I was able to see when Jupiter and Saturn were recently perfectly aligned. But what I noticed the most is how much space junk is in orbit there are, so many old rocket boosters and pieces of debris from space flights and old satellites, etc! It’s incredible how filled our earth’s orbit is filled with ... well, JUNK! I so applaud NASA and fully support all the work they’re doing, but I wish they could figure out a way to get rid of all the space junk that’s there. Thanks, Joe, for all your terrific videos. You make learning things so much fun. 😊👍😉

  • @Jboggs30
    @Jboggs30 5 лет назад +39

    Hey Joe. Thanks for the channel. Good Stuff.
    Just to let you know....I work in this field...so I know a little bit about what's up there. The actual catalog of space objects contains roughly 18,000-19,000 objects currently. There's another 7,000-8,000 objects which are 'known' but haven't been put into the catalog. The catalog includes objects that are in Geosynchronous orbit (35,786-ish km in altitude...mostly around the equator.... well outside the realm of dangerous, and easily avoided).
    NASA has made estimates that there are hundreds of thousands of objects....but those are theoretical.... we don't have the technology to track objects that small.
    All that being said, you are exactly right....this is a big problem. Hopefully the really smart people continue to work on it until we find a solution. But to remove the tiny particles, I think we're going to need something much, much larger than net-capture or blast of air. Perhaps some vertical energy field covering tens, if not hundreds, of kilometers in length which can begin to slow these objects ever so slightly and allow them to burn up on re-entry.
    Again, many thanks....and uber jealous of the Tesla....good for you old chap!

    • @1515Steve1515
      @1515Steve1515 5 лет назад

      Jboggs30 SPACE VAC!?!?

    • @Jboggs30
      @Jboggs30 5 лет назад +1

      that idea......really sucks. But with no air....not too much. ;)

    • @1515Steve1515
      @1515Steve1515 5 лет назад

      Jboggs30 more like a space leaf blower I guess. But space vac rolls of the tong wayyyy better.

  • @TheExoplanetsChannel
    @TheExoplanetsChannel 5 лет назад +175

    So.. the first satellite was launched just 60 years ago and we already have all that junk.. I cannot imagine what will be there by the end of this century :S

    • @odw32
      @odw32 5 лет назад +12

      The good news is that most agencies (both public & private) clean up their newly created mess a bit better these days. Almost all second stages get some deorbiting plan by either boosting or aerobraking, same for many LEO/MEO satellites. A lot of private parties have mentioned plans for GEO satellite servicing/refueling instead of bumping them into a graveyard orbit. The other good news is that Earth's atmosphere doesn't stop at the Karman line, and even above 700km there's solar wind causing drag... plus debris collisions also cause particles to lose energy. So most debris will *eventually* deorbit itself... we just have to be very careful that we don't add too much.

    • @fireofenergy
      @fireofenergy 5 лет назад +1

      The year 2100 should have multiple orbital rings which are ~26,000 mile long orbiting magnetic tracks attached to themselves (to form a ring) and by a structural graphene bridge and guylines to (only) about 80 miles up. All the world's energy is provided by a much higher ring of semi-opaque solar PV, about 50 miles wide.
      Space junk was cleaned up 40 years earlier from quantum lasers and electromagnetic devices aboard thousands of autonomous private space industry sats with subsidy help from world governments.
      People literally drive to "space" every day to work and play!
      ruclips.net/video/LMbI6sk-62E/видео.html

    • @fireofenergy
      @fireofenergy 5 лет назад

      By the year 2200, there shall be more real estate in space than on Earth (and why bother with Mars).

    • @SS-vb7pp
      @SS-vb7pp 5 лет назад +6

      Well...... Look at it this way. If the junk in space keeps us from leaving the planet , the space aliens can't get in and invade the Earth.,..

    • @Infrisios
      @Infrisios 5 лет назад +2

      It's not THAT bad. Debris is most common in low orbits, or it enters lower heights at its perigee due to an elliptic orbit. Even when the height above ground is significantly higher than that of the ISS, it'll experience some atmospheric drag, which lowers its apogee until it also experiences atmospheric drag, leading to the orbit's rapid decay. The Westford needles, for example, clumped together a bit (basically cold-welded together). Most of them decayed, currently there are some 45-ish clumps being tracked. Space agencies need to be extra cautious in leaving less debris behind, there is no denying that, but IF they take measures the situation can actually improve. And most agencies are very aware of the problem, after all it will be their jobs on the line if they aren't.
      Source: Minored in space travel engineering and took a lecture about space debris held by the man who literally wrote the book on space debris.

  • @drowningin
    @drowningin 5 лет назад +100

    1 they should stop painting things going into space if the paint can do that kinda damage.
    2. Would a giant guided electro magnet work?

    • @fanrosefabrose9457
      @fanrosefabrose9457 5 лет назад +3

      Launching it off the ground would be massively difficult. Building it in space would mean more money having to be spent. Then there would be the time taken, which human being would be willing to BUILD something that would take MILLIONS of years to make. It's almost impassible

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin 5 лет назад +3

      @@fanrosefabrose9457 why would it take so long to make? Maybe I worded it wrong. I was referring to something about the size of a car give or take that's there to gather the smaller debris not defunct satilites which the net seems more feasible

    • @fanrosefabrose9457
      @fanrosefabrose9457 5 лет назад +2

      @@drowningin Ahhh, I see. I want to apologize for the over exajuration on the 'millions of years' part. But the idea of a car is debatable, i'm no rocket scientist, I'm a 14 year old in Year10 stressing over a stick i played with 5 years ago, :v feelsbadman

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin 5 лет назад +7

      @@fanrosefabrose9457 stressed over a stick? You playing with yourself? That's for life don't worry

    • @jornposthuma2325
      @jornposthuma2325 5 лет назад +11

      Can't tell you if it would work on the ferromagnetic metals, but a lot of the debris is aluminium, paint, plastics and other non-ferromagnetic metals. Meaning a magnet would only work on a fraction of the junk out there.

  • @im.empimp
    @im.empimp 5 лет назад +5

    @Joe Scott - Could we launch some large magnetic nets*, to roam (like space junk roombas) and basically capture and retain most of this junk? Then either do an intentionally de-orbit or redirect it to other space locations (namely the moon or Mars) for refinement and use on extra-terrestrial missions?
    * I would expect most non-magnetic nets to accumulate enough dings and scratches that they would become more of a problem than a solution, but a magnetic net might be able to retain even the small debris, and as it collected more and more of the large debris, it would be better able to truly catch larger debris. I'm just a layperson, wondering if this might work.

    • @iCarus_A
      @iCarus_A Год назад

      wouldnt said net just get attached to a satellite?

  • @harshalpal8564
    @harshalpal8564 5 лет назад +14

    The Indian PSLV C-37 that launched 104 sats in Feb 2017 did their share of reducing space debris. I mean look at it this way : they did launch 104 SATs which will eventually turn to debris someday, but if it hadn't launched those 104, may be other rockets would've launched them individually, adding 100+ more space debris in the form of expended/spent rocket stages.
    So, in a way, a single PSLV C-37 did effectively avoid 100+ space debris.

    • @aronnovel
      @aronnovel 5 лет назад

      Ya correct and I researched about it and what I found most of the satellites are from NASA and other organisation who want to send their satellites in space in low cost

    • @bigsmall246
      @bigsmall246 3 года назад

      India also blew up a space satellite recently, releasing hundreds of thousands of pieces of space debris

    • @harshalpal8564
      @harshalpal8564 3 года назад

      @@bigsmall246 India isn't even close when the space debris count created by US or Russia is compared

    • @bigsmall246
      @bigsmall246 3 года назад

      @@harshalpal8564 doesn't mean they should have done it.

    • @harshalpal8564
      @harshalpal8564 3 года назад

      @@bigsmall246 Space belongs to everyone. As long as India's intensions weren't wrong, Indian test is fully justified.
      Grab a burnol.

  • @sebione3576
    @sebione3576 5 лет назад +18

    Great. Now I have a new thing to worry about.
    *calls insurance company to see if my homeowners policy covers smoldering space wreckage hurdling through the atmosphere.*

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 5 лет назад +1

      Sebi One you might get to meet elon musk if you have to sue him for danages. you guys could smoke a bowl together and listen to grimes. i guess that would be cool.

    • @salzstangl
      @salzstangl 5 лет назад +1

      Fire insurance is gonna have to pay if your house starts burning I guess. Still its about 10 times more likely to get killed by a falling coconut if you are on vacation on hawaii one week a year, so dont worry.

    • @superdau
      @superdau 5 лет назад +1

      The insurance for my home explicitly states that damage by objects falling from the sky (man made or natural) is covered. Not that I specifically asked for that, it's just in there.

    • @sebione3576
      @sebione3576 5 лет назад +1

      I would never sue Elon, i don't care if a complete falcon 9 lands on my house. And I don't smoke pot either, but I would definitely smoke with Elon.

  • @BryanSeigneur0
    @BryanSeigneur0 5 лет назад +2

    Theory about Tabby's star: it really *was* a K2 civilization (with megastructures), but it succumbed to Kessler Syndrome. Is Kessler Syndrome a great filter of the Fermi Paradox?

  • @alexanderschulz5088
    @alexanderschulz5088 5 лет назад +26

    We need a Space Garbage Agency like in the Anime Planetes.

    • @KuriusOranj
      @KuriusOranj 5 лет назад

      Or in that TV show from the 70s, called, Quark. Pretty sure there are full episodes on the RUclipss. It was, uh, something.

    • @stevepirie8130
      @stevepirie8130 5 лет назад +1

      Alexander Schulz The Governments around the world who put this stuff up should be putting out competitions with big rewards to actually solve this and quick. If countries, private companies and individuals want to smash rockets up and pollute our local space with debris there needs to be a taxation if you like to help pay for the cleanup just like on Earth. Bigger the mess the bigger the bill.

    • @bezzaderbane9890
      @bezzaderbane9890 5 лет назад

      Galactic Garbos?

    • @dreimann
      @dreimann 5 лет назад

      Whenever I think of space garbage, I'm always reminded of this anime.

    • @cloverhap8876
      @cloverhap8876 5 лет назад

      I'd love to be a space janitor, if only to go into space

  • @Thegoldrater
    @Thegoldrater 5 лет назад +60

    SpaceX at some point was thinking of using the BFR to potentially capture space debris. Elon Musk mentioned it during his presentation on the slide where you see the BFR releasing a giant satellite

    • @alvianchoiriapriliansyah9882
      @alvianchoiriapriliansyah9882 5 лет назад +7

      Yeah, hopefully at the affordability of BFR, several groups who want to clear space junk could just contract SpaceX, and send a huge net from BFR chomper (and I hope some of the groups were as ambitious as Elon Musk, just in spirit of cleaning space junk)
      And glad Falcon 9 won't last forever, because its second stage is a concern (in GTO mission, not enough fuel left to deorbit), soon moving to BFR's full reusability, no rocket parts becoming space junk

    • @Exevium
      @Exevium 5 лет назад +1

      The groups interested in clearing space debris might not be able to keep up with all the other companies using SpaceX to launch satellites, that they weren't able to launch without the lower price.
      Speaking of BFR and F9: could they potentially use F9 boosters as side boosters for BFR? Might get them much heavier payloads into interplanetary trajectories.

    • @alvianchoiriapriliansyah9882
      @alvianchoiriapriliansyah9882 5 лет назад +1

      @@Exevium They had learned something from Falcon Heavy that, attaching the side boosters to BFR will complicate things, and thus making development cost & time higher.
      They would instead make BFR bigger (adding more engines to booster like 2016 ITS, make BFS larger, etc.)

    • @thomaswijgerse723
      @thomaswijgerse723 5 лет назад

      Falcon 9 second stages in gto deorbit really quickly, their periapsis is really low.

    • @joescott
      @joescott  5 лет назад +6

      I'd be very curious how they'd pull this off for defunct satellites because the satellites are usually spinning out of control.

  • @desertratnt-7849
    @desertratnt-7849 5 лет назад +55

    Slayer tunes would of gone well with that scene. Too good. Slayer space remix.

    • @joescott
      @joescott  5 лет назад +10

      I could only use a tiny clip to avoid copyright issues.

    • @jefferyshaw1931
      @jefferyshaw1931 4 года назад

      Not Slayer...Dokken

    • @coreyaudet8574
      @coreyaudet8574 4 года назад +1

      @@jefferyshaw1931 "Into the FIRE"

  • @spriksie
    @spriksie 5 лет назад

    This is one of my favorite ones you've made. I'm using it for my college class next semester.

  • @kazebaret
    @kazebaret 5 лет назад +4

    Great Video Joe! Just a small correction: if an object with the same mass of a bullet travels 10 times faster, it has 100 times its kinetic energy (as you said, the square of the velocity). Have a great day!

  • @jhoughjr1
    @jhoughjr1 5 лет назад +74

    Wouldn’t it be 100 times the energy? 10 squared is 100

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 5 лет назад +21

      the correction is shown in the bottom left of the screen as soon as Joe utters the mistake.

    • @helgefan8994
      @helgefan8994 5 лет назад +2

      That was corrected, but he also forgot to say that this is only true if that object has the same mass as the bullet. Sure it's pretty obvious for scientifically literate people, but others might jump to wrong conclusions because of an omission like that.

    • @sebione3576
      @sebione3576 5 лет назад +1

      time stamp for us lazy mofos

    • @helgefan8994
      @helgefan8994 5 лет назад

      3:00

  • @jeffbarnard3050
    @jeffbarnard3050 5 лет назад +15

    Good Video... Just so you know generally Cell Phones do not use satellites. They are generally terrestrially based and have ground towers connected generally with fiber optic cables. Now ship to shore communicates and satellite phones and satellite internet which is used on cruise ships and airplanes would.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 5 лет назад +2

      It's the same with the internet, the latency would be appalling if we relied on satellite-based internet. We only use satellites to communicate with remote or mobile communities like islands in the ocean or ships.

    • @salzstangl
      @salzstangl 5 лет назад

      Thats only partially true. GPS relies on satellites only and is used for a lot of functions (google maps). You could still call people and browse pronhub, but satellites contribute to a lot of stuff we use on a daily basis.

    • @CineSoar
      @CineSoar 5 лет назад

      Yeah, but GPS satellites are 12,550 miles up. The vast majority of space debris is within 1,250 miles. I'm sure there is a lot of useful hardware in the 'danger zone'. But, GPS and the Geostationary orbits seem to be outside of the 'kill zone'. Unless there is some aspect of this that causes the Kessler Syndrome to span the 10,000 mile gap...

    • @nickskizekers1906
      @nickskizekers1906 5 лет назад

      stephmon Even so, being able to send anything else up through the layer of untraceable junk is still just as bad, and the current gps satellites wont last very long.

    • @NterpriseCEO
      @NterpriseCEO 5 лет назад

      @@salzstangl Yes. I love pronhub too. Lots of great pronstars. :)

  • @your_local_idiot27
    @your_local_idiot27 5 лет назад

    I missed these so much thanks for another great vid!!!

  • @thomasdarby6084
    @thomasdarby6084 5 лет назад +1

    What we need is the Mega Maid from Spaceballs. That'll clean it up.

  • @calinculianu
    @calinculianu 5 лет назад +6

    Joe you're great at making videos. Bad at math, though. 10 squared is 100. A bullet travelling 10x the speed of sound has 100x the energy of one travelling at 1x the speed of sound.

  • @theultimatereductionist7592
    @theultimatereductionist7592 5 лет назад +13

    In space no one can hear you recycle.

    • @bearcubdaycare
      @bearcubdaycare 3 года назад

      And that might be the problem. No rewards for being the janitor, and it would be quite expensive likely. The motivation, career paths, morning TV show appearances, TED talks, are for people putting up a new satellite, not much for taking one down, even less for collecting bits of paint. And international cooperation on much of anything has been gone for decades, if there ever was much outside of allies in war.

  • @ianmastin
    @ianmastin 5 лет назад +1

    An interesting option would be to use the same technology proposed by starshot to help cleanup space. I imagine that one of the greatest challenges that starshot would face is the funding and construction of their laser array, Imagine if they proposed to use that same array to help cleanup space at an affordable cost. They could then use this model as a means to secure funding for the project and when construction of the array is complete they could use the revenue generated by their cleanup efforts to continue development of the starshot program.

  • @deepeasttexas2849
    @deepeasttexas2849 5 лет назад

    Good Monday Afternoon Joe

  • @Soumya_Mukherjee
    @Soumya_Mukherjee 5 лет назад +10

    1:31 No! Cell phone communication and Internet service doesn't use satellites!

    • @nealsterling8151
      @nealsterling8151 5 лет назад +1

      Sadly not.
      That would at least be one benefit from all that space debris, get rid of all those stupid cellphones everyone is addicted to.

    • @drew1035
      @drew1035 5 лет назад +2

      Mostly they don't... but they do. Usually for remote / rural areas where ground infrastructure is infeasible.

    • @arthill2310
      @arthill2310 5 лет назад +3

      While the cell phone communicates with a cell tower, I think that *some* more remote cell towers are connected to the wider phone system by satellite... but if that is true, a quick google did not find it... mostly just comparisons to satellite phones or explanations that say that the towers use fiber to connect to the wider phone network.
      There are also satellite phones, and those would just be a non-starter during a Kessler Syndrome.

    • @MKillrZ
      @MKillrZ 5 лет назад

      yes some do

    • @drew1035
      @drew1035 5 лет назад +2

      @@arthill2310 yea I think u r right Art. I was thinking satellite phones.. but yea I wouldn't be surprised if there are some satellite links in cellular networks.

  • @MrSeanface
    @MrSeanface 5 лет назад +4

    Hell yes!!! New video!

    • @joescott
      @joescott  5 лет назад +1

      Every week my dude.

  • @TheFLOMAN76
    @TheFLOMAN76 Год назад

    SLAAAAAAYYYYYYYEEEEERRRR!!!
    I miss those guys.
    Very interesting stuff Joe

  • @johnwang9914
    @johnwang9914 5 лет назад +2

    The Kessler syndrome is our defense shield against alien attack.
    If we want to deorbit space junk, put large mirrors at the Sun Earth L4 and or L5 LaGrange points and reflect sunlight against the path of the space junk.
    If we do get locked in by space junk, we won't loose our modern conveniences. Navigation would be by ground based eLoran just as it was before gps, communication and weather surveillance would be by long duration high altitude solar powered blimps and UAV's at 70,000 feet. These atmospheric communication platforms would actually be far better than satellites as the latency would be much lower because they are much closer to the surface and being closer they can use the same means to boost overall bandwidth that cell phone attenaes use, that is operate by cells allowing frequency band reuse in other cells. Such atmospheric platforms can also be recovered for repairs and upgrades. Also, since the blimps would be unmanned, hydrogen which is plentiful, can be used instead of the limited helium which so far can only be sourced from the radioactive decay in a few select Texas oilfields.
    The Kesseler syndrome would only prevent us from space explorations, industrialization and colonization, any impact on the conveniences of modern life would be temporary till we get the alternatives established.

    • @Halberdin
      @Halberdin 5 лет назад +1

      Good points, but they need more thinking. ☺
      Sun's radiation already deprives particles from a stable orbit, so I doubt the huge number is correct, or at least they should disappear fast. Hmm, in case of a rotating particle, the effect will be reduced, but should still result in dominant force away of the Sun.
      Phone connections with low orbits are faster for local connections, but to make a call over long distances, many satellites have to forward the data packets both ways, blocking resources. Also, the ground device has to track the uplink for directional transmission (much more difficult than only _listening_ to a broadcast as with GPS), and frequent hand-overs will occur. Finally, satellites can't be distributed evenly.

  • @ImTheBatchMan
    @ImTheBatchMan 5 лет назад +27

    For the last time, Joe! We're not docking. Not even in space.

    • @commentguy4711
      @commentguy4711 5 лет назад +2

      You really should have more likes for this one.

    • @azelheidrruth1661
      @azelheidrruth1661 5 лет назад +4

      @asdf ..only gay if your balls touch.

    • @spacecitizen6756
      @spacecitizen6756 3 года назад

      Ya that ruined the Star Trek docking bay for me.

  • @drew1035
    @drew1035 5 лет назад +3

    Everyone who launches stuff into orbit should contribute a cleanup fund. Also maybe engineering students worldwide shauld have a mandatory research project aimed at solving this problem.

  • @dennistucker1153
    @dennistucker1153 5 лет назад +1

    Another great video...thanks Joe. There definitely should be internationally agreed to guidelines for 1) not contributing to the problem(like no paint and a plan to safely remove the craft when it is done) 2) a plan to clean up the mess.

  • @ColinJonesPonder
    @ColinJonesPonder 5 лет назад +2

    myjunkinspace... is it just me? 😂

  • @crystalball020
    @crystalball020 5 лет назад +3

    And they say garbage man is a bad job

  • @OttawaOldFart
    @OttawaOldFart 5 лет назад +3

    I knew it was bad but this is much worse, oh well yet another man made dilemma that was ignored until it is too late and urgent expensive action is needed and still no one wants to deal with it.

  • @michaeldellacava
    @michaeldellacava 5 лет назад

    A problem this big and you make light of it by incorporating it into your commercial for Squarespace! You're a real winner Joe.

  • @rays7437
    @rays7437 5 лет назад +1

    That's why Star Trek invented their "deflector dish" technology for starships. We just need a big space plow truck with a deflector dish to plow the space junk out of the way. ;-)

  • @Mitranim
    @Mitranim 5 лет назад +53

    Very nice report. Just a nitpick: the music is too loud and sometimes distracts from you talking. Edit: a better mic would be quite an improvement.

    • @thinkabout288
      @thinkabout288 5 лет назад +3

      YES !!!!!

    • @naami2004
      @naami2004 5 лет назад +4

      Yes, he never listen to this issue, a lot of us enjoy the content but the music is LOUD !!

    • @Krommandant
      @Krommandant 5 лет назад +3

      Music volume is too damn high!

    • @joescott
      @joescott  5 лет назад +10

      So, I've been doing this channel a long time, and I've adjusted the music a thousand different ways and I can tell you no matter where I put it, someone complains about it. So I just adjust it to what sounds right on my system. Sorry if it doesn't sound good to you.

    • @thinkabout288
      @thinkabout288 5 лет назад +2

      no problem we just like to bitch sorry

  • @nolanhoward452
    @nolanhoward452 5 лет назад +26

    How’s the Tesla going? Made me much happier than I expected to see you’d received it!

    • @joescott
      @joescott  5 лет назад +15

      I'm liking it more and more the longer I have it. I still find myself looking for reasons to go run an errand and drive around. :)

    • @KuriusOranj
      @KuriusOranj 5 лет назад +6

      Speaking of Tesla, I wonder how the one in orbit is doing. Bombarded by space junk yet?

    • @Gibson99
      @Gibson99 5 лет назад +5

      it's not orbiting earth, so the only thing hitting the roadster will be micrometeorites and other "natural" space debris.

    • @andie_pants
      @andie_pants 5 лет назад +5

      I would pay good money to see poultry do 75 mph.

  • @arthill2310
    @arthill2310 5 лет назад +1

    This vid may be the most approachable yet complete(ish) explanation of the Kessler Syndrome. Good job!

  • @merinsan
    @merinsan 5 лет назад +2

    This is the solution to the Fermi Paradox.

  • @waeljames
    @waeljames 5 лет назад +19

    10 times the speed of the bullet has 100 times kenetik energy than the speeding bullet....not 20

    • @fabx725
      @fabx725 5 лет назад

      Can you read?

    • @waeljames
      @waeljames 5 лет назад

      @@fabx725 what's that supposed to mean?

    • @fabx725
      @fabx725 5 лет назад +2

      @@waeljames He wrote on the video at the time that he made the mistake that it was actually 100. No need for you to repeat.

  • @CarFreeSegnitz
    @CarFreeSegnitz 5 лет назад +15

    "... a world without cellphones and internet...". wellll, not really. Communication satellites do make it convenient to bridge long distances. But we've had undersea communication cables for longer than we've had satellites.

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz 5 лет назад +4

      And ham radios instead of satellite phones. Kind-of retro but if I were stuck in the middle of Antarctica and smoke signals could bring on a rescue, then I'd gladly use smoke signals.

    • @Halberdin
      @Halberdin 5 лет назад

      Communication satellites are only needed for remote, isolated locations. They are useful for ships, airplanes and undeveloped regions, because long-wave transmissions are not reliable and allow only small data rates, whereas short-wave radio can't span long distances. Cell phones per se do not use satellites. Internet and phone connections usually do not use satellites because of the large delays.
      What services are really threatened by space debris? Orbits on the "border" of the atmosphere (~100 km) are cleared from debris by the friction of the tiny, but non-zero amount of air; this effect is big on small particles, but hardly a problem for satellites. The problem is that you need many more satellites to cover the Earth's surface, so all services (including weather observation) become much more expensive, and the lack of geostationary orbits makes communication and TV satellites difficult or even impossible to use.

    • @SoniaJbrt
      @SoniaJbrt 4 года назад

      I grew up in a world without cellphones and Internet, and it really wasn't that bad. Was a lot more quiet. And people actually talked to each other face to face. Ah, miss that slow life and interaction!

  • @vf7vico
    @vf7vico 5 лет назад

    excellent and important video, Joe -- nice work

  • @LegionOfWeirdos
    @LegionOfWeirdos 5 лет назад

    I love the idea of that net thing.

  • @kayrosis5523
    @kayrosis5523 5 лет назад +5

    While the Bigger chunks of space debris are probably going to require some more ingenuity, I'd imagine that the best way to get rid of the small stuff is to start sending a fleet of higher orbit, solar powered lasers, to start shooting at dozens of different pieces a minute. not to destroy them, but just enough for the light energy to start pushing them down to de-orbit in weeks or months instead of years or decades. Let Einstein and Newton clean up the mess.

    • @1515Steve1515
      @1515Steve1515 5 лет назад

      Erik S this^. Tho NASAs air puff idea also sounds great. Just add some friction and suck the energy out.

    • @bezzaderbane9890
      @bezzaderbane9890 5 лет назад

      Well done Erik and are you going to start paying the taxes to fund such laser technology?

    • @kayrosis5523
      @kayrosis5523 5 лет назад

      @@bezzaderbane9890 Happily. If you know a reputable lab or company working on this, i'd send them $20 right this minute.

    • @bezzaderbane9890
      @bezzaderbane9890 5 лет назад

      Do your own research mate not my responsibility to find them for you, therein lies the problem your apathetic so thanks for proving my point.

    • @kayrosis5523
      @kayrosis5523 5 лет назад

      @@bezzaderbane9890 lol. i wasn't asking you to find anything for me. But feel free to enjoy your smug self-satisfaction, it accomplishes as much as apathy.

  • @Pantherblack
    @Pantherblack 5 лет назад +3

    State and private entities dragging their feet on a looming catastrophe.
    Sounds familiar.

  • @aprillewis1940
    @aprillewis1940 5 лет назад

    Great video. Thanks Joe.

  • @iloldthough6611
    @iloldthough6611 4 года назад

    I've worried about this often but decided not to even bother looking into it for fear of depressing myself, this video has actually brought me hope; knowing its being taken seriously and efforts to address it being made already.

  • @princeedmunddukeofedinburg
    @princeedmunddukeofedinburg 5 лет назад +5

    Our planet has cancer and we are it :(

  • @Flyingsquirrel69420
    @Flyingsquirrel69420 5 лет назад +20

    Only humans could destroy the future of all living creatures forever with a flying paint chip.

    • @peterbeachy7986
      @peterbeachy7986 5 лет назад +4

      Well raccoons certainly couldn't manage it.

    • @salzstangl
      @salzstangl 5 лет назад

      if we find a way to block cosmic radiation it may block paint as well...

  • @bryanstephens4800
    @bryanstephens4800 5 лет назад

    Great way to address the topic

  • @chardude
    @chardude 5 лет назад

    I wonder if it would be possible to use some sort of super magnet to skim past the junk to start its fall. Or collect it to make it easier to catch or fall

  • @RoguishlyHandsome
    @RoguishlyHandsome 5 лет назад +10

    We need tractor beams.

    • @bezzaderbane9890
      @bezzaderbane9890 5 лет назад

      This is real life not Star Wars.

    • @RoguishlyHandsome
      @RoguishlyHandsome 5 лет назад +1

      @@bezzaderbane9890 And that makes us need them less how?

    • @bezzaderbane9890
      @bezzaderbane9890 5 лет назад

      Your assertion is based on fantasy not reality its not a matter of not needing something but tractor beams are pure fiction.

    • @RoguishlyHandsome
      @RoguishlyHandsome 5 лет назад

      @@bezzaderbane9890 Lighten up

    • @bezzaderbane9890
      @bezzaderbane9890 5 лет назад

      You've got a remarkable way of saying completely irrelevant sentences, you weren't making a joke, you were saying we should use a tech that doesn't exist....

  • @FiiZzioN
    @FiiZzioN 5 лет назад +6

    6:43 Yeah, let's destroy the enemies satellite to lessen their capabilities only to have the resulting debris cloud inevitably hinder and/or destroy our and our allies satellites for years to come!
    Seems like a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them.

    • @stevepirie8130
      @stevepirie8130 5 лет назад +1

      FiiZzioN nice dodgeball reference 😁

  • @bobbailey4954
    @bobbailey4954 4 года назад

    Great video now we need to act on clean space and keep it clean.

  • @Sun-ut9gr
    @Sun-ut9gr 3 года назад +1

    This was the entire plot of Planetes. Awesome anime.
    Think I'll start watching it again, actually 💚

  • @MichaelWheatland
    @MichaelWheatland 5 лет назад +13

    Math fail. I think you had better check your calculation of 10^2=?

  • @TonyP9279
    @TonyP9279 5 лет назад +22

    Earth can't be considered a planet because it does not clear out it's orbit, instead it trashes up the orbit!

    • @jgbreezer
      @jgbreezer 5 лет назад

      Oh? When did the Earth itself fire all this stuff up there? I didn't think volcanoes were that powerful (not for stuff to stay in orbit a while, at least) ;)

  • @rumhead666
    @rumhead666 5 лет назад

    Another great video. Thanks Joe.

  • @BLClark-wf2yk
    @BLClark-wf2yk 5 лет назад

    Dude, this was an excellent episode. They all are, honestly, but I loved this one quite a bit

  • @DynamicHaze
    @DynamicHaze 5 лет назад +6

    How can we clean and keep the space outside of our planet when we obviously as organisms don't care about the planet we live on. We're actively destroying earth makes sense we'd do the same in it's orbit. It's tough to imagine that we'd start to care about things that don't directly impact us now, humanity has consistently acted in that manner. Not to worry about things that isn't at that moment a problem.

    • @doktormcnasty
      @doktormcnasty 5 лет назад

      It's only really next quarter's profits that matter. EVen that's a bit long I'm thinking if these people really want to get rich they need to shrink those profit reports down to monthly with an eye towards the weeklies.

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 5 лет назад

      You laugh but most homeowners policies have a specific clause for such debris as it is a statistically infrequent event hence one they are happy to explicitly cover.

    • @NicholasA231
      @NicholasA231 5 лет назад

      I think the kind of people involved in getting things into orbit probably care a little more than the average person about things like protecting the environment they're working in. I'm actually a little surprised that the engineers working on orbital systems seem to be behind the curve on addressing this. Especially since the issue was spelled out 40 years ago.

  • @Baysidemom2
    @Baysidemom2 2 года назад +3

    summary: ruining earth wasn't bad enough, now we are ruining space too. Humans suck.

  • @maxmac7845
    @maxmac7845 5 лет назад +1

    It's going to take a catastrophic event for any action to be taken on clearing up space junk.

  • @Alex-gc2vo
    @Alex-gc2vo 5 лет назад

    per your video on Bigelow's inflatable habitats, if we just deployed a bunch of those as ether full stations or just random airbag satellites they could absorb the impact energy of the debris without creating any additional debris.

  • @poorbokefella
    @poorbokefella 5 лет назад +3

    Here is the 'silver lining'... Maybe a shield of space debris will in fact help with global warming by shielding the planet from the sun..?

  • @rea8585
    @rea8585 5 лет назад +61

    You gotta give it to space junk: at least it doesn't ruin the ecosystem.

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 5 лет назад +6

      Defends what it is really.. I'd imagine if a radioactive powersource came back down in bits that might have an effect on the ecosystem.

    • @1MarkKeller
      @1MarkKeller 5 лет назад +7

      The Great Space Wall ... all the UFO aliens made us pay for it, and build it.

    • @CB-oh5mm
      @CB-oh5mm 5 лет назад +5

      No it'll just trap us here till we're strangling our neighbors over the last drops of water.

    • @Exevium
      @Exevium 5 лет назад +2

      We can ruin the ecosystem all we like, it'll be here long after we're gone. We just have to make sure there's room in that ecosystem for us.

    • @joncocks2262
      @joncocks2262 5 лет назад +4

      It will do when it blocks out the sun

  • @worldofzap
    @worldofzap 5 лет назад

    Thanks for doing this video, I have mentioned this in comments from time to time, a space war would be a disaster and end with nothing being able to go into space.

  • @sub-spyxia2338
    @sub-spyxia2338 5 лет назад +1

    There is actually an anime about space junk. It's called "Planetes" and yes its about space garbage men. The story is about space men who accentally save the plannet by preventing a large satelite from exploding, that whould effectively sealling the planet from space. As a reward they were given a job to be the first in the world to be space garbage men.

  • @naami2004
    @naami2004 5 лет назад +10

    Background music in your videos are the real junk ! sorry but it's LOUD !!!!!!!!!

    • @Krommandant
      @Krommandant 5 лет назад +1

      Music volume is too damn high!

    • @fanrosefabrose9457
      @fanrosefabrose9457 5 лет назад +2

      @@Krommandant These Nuggets Prices ARE TOOO DAMN HIGH!!!

    • @Krommandant
      @Krommandant 5 лет назад +1

      @@fanrosefabrose9457 Your koala is too damn high!

    • @fanrosefabrose9457
      @fanrosefabrose9457 5 лет назад +2

      @@Krommandant *the hype in the comment chain is T O O D A M N H I G H ! ! !*

  • @lecisko
    @lecisko 5 лет назад +3

    The background music is absolutely horrible imo. Please do not put it into your otherwise great videos.

  • @OhhhThatVarun
    @OhhhThatVarun 5 лет назад

    Liked the video before watching. I knew it It is going to be awesome!

  • @lamebubblesflysohigh
    @lamebubblesflysohigh 5 лет назад +1

    How about reflector (solar sale or something with rocket countering push of solar wind) reflecting light in the opposite direction of Earth’s rotation. Cone of light it would produce should over time slow at least part of the junk enough to fall down and burn in the atmosphere.

  • @TechCloud786
    @TechCloud786 5 лет назад +4

    i love you buddy( no homo)

    • @phoule76
      @phoule76 5 лет назад +2

      ?

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 5 лет назад +3

      Tech Cloud you kids like to say that no homo all the time these days. back in my day we liked to say salsa.

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 2 года назад +2

    How about a change to corporate law so they are held responsible for the consequences of their actions ?

  • @JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke
    @JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke 5 лет назад

    I remember reading articles about this subject back in the 80's when the US was testing their ASAT systems. It's definitely a big problem and getting worse every year.

  • @JesterAzazel
    @JesterAzazel 5 лет назад +1

    Sci fi movie idea: Aliens plan to invade, humans find out, mass panic ensues, alien motherships are torn to shreds by space junk. During the panic, billions are dead despite the aliens never firing a shot.
    Sequel: Decades later, the last of humanity has died out. The world is inhabited by sentient jellyfish. Movie goers liked the original, so they go see it and it makes millions despite having a terrible premise based on Sim Earth.

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy 4 года назад

    Wall-e was a very prophetic movie in so many way. Much more than just how it illustrated the problem space debris could/will become.

  • @dichebach
    @dichebach 5 лет назад

    Slayer for docking background music! :)

  • @TDay2K
    @TDay2K 5 лет назад +1

    Was NOT expecting to hear Slayer in this video \m/

  • @jeffhoward1222
    @jeffhoward1222 4 года назад

    Hey Joe in your intro maybe you should of mentioned Lottie Williams of Tulsa Oklahoma, She was actually hit by space debris. Love your channel.

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff 5 лет назад +1

    We can't even get organised enough to clean up the stuff thats around us down here, how the heck do you expect them to do it in space.
    Best option in both scenarios is to make the waste useful.
    In space this will be because its already in space so its cheaper than having to fly it up from earth.

  • @teweldemat
    @teweldemat 5 лет назад

    5:45 I feel you, man. The prospect of remaining trapped on Earth ... very disturbing

  • @xheatdeathx6639
    @xheatdeathx6639 5 лет назад

    I’m sure you hear this all the time but “ITS A DIRTY JOB BUT SOMEONES GOT TO DO IT” I hear that song every time your intro starts. I love Faith no More, and all of Mike’s various bands and endeavors, and I live in the same city as him. Rock on 🤘🏼

  • @Anenome5
    @Anenome5 4 года назад

    It seems like a relatively easy thing to fix. Shoot space-junk with a laser to slow its orbit and cause re-entry. Can do it from the ground, or from space. Ground can catch the big stuff, space can catch the small stuff.

  • @shredbacca
    @shredbacca 3 года назад +1

    i never expected to see slayer on this channel seen em live twice in 2019 shit was great

  • @tomcharles5910
    @tomcharles5910 3 года назад

    Thanks for helping clarify the weightless old wife's tale on the ISS

  • @billtreusch
    @billtreusch 5 лет назад

    Another quality video.

  • @saturnsixth
    @saturnsixth 5 лет назад +1

    "We're not even done cleaning the ocean yet...theres more in space?

  • @kindlin
    @kindlin 5 лет назад

    I've read that the shifting atmospheric density should de-orbit quite a bit of material every decade or so (as in, a warmer atmosphere expands the teniumous boundary layer upwards, creating more drag on the junk), so unless we start pumping lots more debri up there, we'll likely be able to avoid the kessler syndrome. But then, I guess, we could already be at that tipping point with commercial space flight opening up so fast, so we better get some remediation measures in place asap, which, as this video shows, we're doing.

  • @dylanmorgan5589
    @dylanmorgan5589 5 лет назад +1

    I don't know about this space stuff but you got me into Slayer

  • @keithgunn-glanville7829
    @keithgunn-glanville7829 4 года назад

    Here’s an idea, launch a bunch of super strong magnets up into the same orbit as the micro debris. Maybe the majority of the smaller pieces will stick together over time?

  • @rossh2386
    @rossh2386 5 лет назад

    That slayer reference is totally on point

  • @sambrewer2306
    @sambrewer2306 5 лет назад

    I predict 500k subscribers by the end of the year. And 2 mil followers by 2020 easily.
    Thanks Joe.

  • @surgeeo1406
    @surgeeo1406 5 лет назад

    Somewhere on that list of space junk removal ideas, I felt like I was watching Robocop...

  • @robertbrowning7925
    @robertbrowning7925 4 года назад +1

    Good post.
    Perhaps a solution is for space faring nations and companies to supply funding for cleaning up the problem. An enterprising individual can develop a means of cleaning up the orbit and the fund can pay for it. For practice we can start by testing the techniques on the trash in our oceans. If it works there, then apply it to orbital debris.
    It could be a very well paying job. And allow some of us to make it into space in the service industries.
    Just a thought.......

  • @otcbar4122
    @otcbar4122 5 лет назад

    (2:00) - You need to travel at 17,000 mph to remain in orbit only at a particular height. At any other height the necessary speed to remain in orbit may be higher or lower.