Looking back at this video almost a year later, it's funny how many tiny nitpicks i have, considering how much i would do differently now. i really don't like this videos existence at all with how much it may misrepresent the creation of the map, the person that made it, and all the people involved and shown in the video, including myself. i'd recommend watching any of my newer Celeste videos instead as they are far better !! (tho still bad) anyways, CORRECTIONS: -17:38 - isabelle / issy was the first person to reclear Crystal Garden around 2 weeks prior, her run had 518 deaths -1:20 these are ZIP MOVERS not traffic blocks, i forgot their actual entity name oops -20 July 2024 EDIT: Etpio has now added an FAQ page to Crystal Garden, talking much more about the map, its history and the original usage of the GM+x rating system (very interesting read i'd recommend!) and the original actual intentions with the map, being the B-Side to SCGMHS (i probably should've touched much further on this stuff in the video but oh well). Along with also stating that he actually had NOT forgotten the solutions to r3 and r4. Apparently that was just an entire misconception generated from who knows where, but to clarify again: Etpio did Not forget the solutions to r3 nd r4, what i said in the video about this specific fact is misinformation. -1 August 2024 EDIT: Parrot Dash goes by she/her now, congrats to her coming out !! -25 August 2024 EDIT: Crystal Garden (v1.7) is out.
35:13 I'm pretty sure that that placement doesn't mean it's the fourth hardest. the rankings are high, medium, and low but inside those rankings it is just listed alphabetically. since Crystal Garden starts with a C it is listed at the top of all the tier 1 goldens.
massive congratulations to seaze for doing the crystal garden 1.6 golden, and congratulations to an entirely separate seaze for making this great video
My teacher is making me write a report on any documentary we can find, as long as it’s at least 30 minutes long. This is a documentary now. Don't worry about it.
Pls make more videos in this style, I think the Celeste community need it, there's much cool histories happening, and as an other great game teach me once "A history isn't a history if it's not told"
I've always thought this map was so cool, i remember being in the server when the room 4 ending cheese was found and i thought it was SO sick, it stuck with me for sure
okay edit actually heres just random Notes 17:38 - ur reclear was in fact Not the first reclear, cuz i recleared it on may 24th (it was 518 deaths and took a bit over an hour) lol 21:39 - goldens arent ordered by difficulty within subtiers, theyre ordered alphabetically, so "around 20th" is wrong but i guess close enough? 35:13 - it was Never the 4th hardest golden, again, subtiers are alphabetical. there are several high tier 1 goldens that are harder (also showing that its not really close to tier 0)
1) oh wow interesting why was that never on the hlist low death spreadsheet ever considering you own it, i asked some ppl if anyone had recleared before me but everyone said no, maybe i shouldve researched that a bit more 2) yeah its just an estimate 3) fair but the tier 0 / high tier 1 discussions made me assume it was somewhere around there, ofc no one really knows anything rn tho so maybe i shouldnt have said that at all because its a complete shot in the dark
@@seazeiscool it was in fact on the low death sheet but since you beat it like 2 weeks later u probably just never noticed, u can see my reclear n stuff on my personal sheet in the celeste tab its just a dumb nitpick but i wouldve said ~25 instead of 20, doesnt rly matter lol, and ya 👍 :3
20:29 when watching this I was half paying attention and I missheard what was said (or at least what it sounded like), so I thought "oh right now I can see what SeazelsCool sounds like! Completely forgetting that it is literally the voice that I have been listening to for 20 minutes
2:43 Celeste is a game built with many different solutions in mind. The game, especially the early game, has many different routes the player can take in each room, and that's completely intentional. Why would a mod creator go out of their way to make sure that their room only has one solution? That just seems stupid, unintuitive, and overall disrespectful to players.
I only knew about crystal garden from the hard list bingo, never knew how insanely difficult and interesting the maps history has been. Also amazing music choices, it makes me want to eventually clear CG myself
awesome stuff! from seeing the initial script for this video, to watching it fully put together, I'm genuinely incredibly impressed with how well this video was made! great work seaze, (the man who cleared crystal garden deathless)!
GG on The Golden I couldnt even do a Low Death run on this The Nightmare of a map it would leave me in a Cold Sweat having a Lucid Nightmares about it. I could probably Never Beat It but you did with Supersonic speed. Your skill truly is an Ocular Miracle.
congrats on the golden, i will now go cry into my 1a and 2a goldens. no but for real, the celeste modding scene is something else and as a casual player, i‘m very happy to observe from a distance. content like this is super fascinating to me because my philosophy with celeste is that i will solve every screen eventually, the question is just when and will i give up beforehand. in this case i would have thrown my controller across the room and cried into my pillow uncontrollably so mad respect to anyone who even got past the first room.
Very good video! The video was very engaging and interesting, I had seen you cg 1.6 golden but didnt know how hard it truly was. Hopefully this blows up.
24:30 I love this video, it's great and you did such a great job that I remembered this video existed even though it was 8month ago, I am currently watching it again and I am really enjoying it :D
this is some of the first celeste-focused content ive seen as a geometry dash community fan, but this video by itself inspired me to try celeste just based off of the similarity i can imagine if the communities have THAT much in common , especially in the cultures regarding the hardest levels
I love how this entire video basically exists to more effectively flex your own achievement. Really interesting stuff though, even as someone active in the community I wasn't familiar with all the history surrounding the map so it's really cool to see a deep dive like this.
By the way, making a tiny mod to the room to give it a completely different solution is literally a thing baba is you does all the time! It’s so incredible
A lot of people don't like this map... and not for entirely unfounded reasons. It's brutal, it's uncompromising, it doesn't care about things like human rng/subpixel checks. It's often clowned on as the pinnacle of "mapper can't live with players cheesing their map". And yet I have to admire it for that; the map's premise, from Etpio himself, is to be a map to push the very limits of the best of the best players. Celeste players, I've noticed, tend to underestimate where the community's skill level will be in some time (xyz golden is impossible, you know how it goes) and yet Etpio managed to the map off so well that it holds up to that promise (at least with intended routing) to this day. And it does it with style - the moves room 2 pulls with feathers, for example, are rarely seen even in today's maps. I honestly do hope this map does get that next round of decheese, so it can better fulfill its premise. A lot of people don't like Etpio, either... and not for entirely unfounded reasons. He can have very... unconventional opinions about celeste maps, which he defends with gusto and an often conceited tone. But, having interacted with him a lot during the development of the Flusheline Community Collab, he's also a very smart fellow. He knows his way around Celeste very well, and is able to create consistently fresh and interesting gameplay; I hold him, in a sense, in high regard for that. I managed to playtest one of the maps in his unreleased campaign, and that level became favorite celeste map to date. All of this to say: I haven't seen Etpio send a message on discord in almost a year now. I hope he's alright.
i loved this video despite haven't even beaten farewell (and understood most of it :) thank you for a very cool video uncovering the insanity that is modded celeste maps.
This is a really neat video - excellent presentation and script, thank you for putting this together :) For constructive feedback, I'll mention, that I personally have to practice enunciating words a ton, so I felt like it was appropriate to mention that to you. Practicing proper enunciation is no fun and tedious... And I'm slacking on it myself too much o-o
i have a question: what difficulty is room 1's intended route and what do people predict the entire map's (intended route) difficulty to be? Will it be higher than d+ or even GM+3?
room-1 intended is easily gm+2, the other rooms i have zero clue and its not really productive to guess before the intended route has even been found for the other rooms etpio originally said the map was gm+2 but idk how much i trust that estimate, wouldnt be surprised if it actually was harder
thanks, i might make more like this but im unsure, also happy to see someone that isnt super familiar with modded celeste be able to enjoy it, i tried my best to make it accessible and everything
Bro used third person narrative so hard just to surprise watchers that the creator of this video is the same person that did the Crystal Garden Deathless Run. What a Madlad humble person. The only feedback I would give is: the video felt muffled. maybe a better mic or better recording environment would fix that? idk I'm just a commenter but you'll figure it out since you are megalomaniacly good at it. Massive congrats btw! 🎉🎉🎉
the Wirtual of Celeste content has arrived PS. use first person when you talk about yourself / would be cool to get more of that perspective PPS. "I UNLOCKED CELESTE GENETICS" is one of the quotes of all time
Very good video, I didn't expect there to be so few views, it deserves more, I hope that other videos on Celeste as good will be published GG for the golden, do you intend to do a new golden?
I didn't look at the channel name before watching this video so I didn't realize Seaze was talking about himself in the third person until the end of the video
I got this video recommended to me, and i was confused on why i remember you... Then I realized you're on the pigchefer discord! Congrats, and amazing video!
Looking back at this video almost a year later, it's funny how many tiny nitpicks i have, considering how much i would do differently now. i really don't like this videos existence at all with how much it may misrepresent the creation of the map, the person that made it, and all the people involved and shown in the video, including myself. i'd recommend watching any of my newer Celeste videos instead as they are far better !! (tho still bad)
anyways, CORRECTIONS:
-17:38 - isabelle / issy was the first person to reclear Crystal Garden around 2 weeks prior, her run had 518 deaths
-1:20 these are ZIP MOVERS not traffic blocks, i forgot their actual entity name oops
-20 July 2024 EDIT: Etpio has now added an FAQ page to Crystal Garden, talking much more about the map, its history and the original usage of the GM+x rating system (very interesting read i'd recommend!) and the original actual intentions with the map, being the B-Side to SCGMHS (i probably should've touched much further on this stuff in the video but oh well). Along with also stating that he actually had NOT forgotten the solutions to r3 and r4. Apparently that was just an entire misconception generated from who knows where, but to clarify again: Etpio did Not forget the solutions to r3 nd r4, what i said in the video about this specific fact is misinformation.
-1 August 2024 EDIT: Parrot Dash goes by she/her now, congrats to her coming out !!
-25 August 2024 EDIT: Crystal Garden (v1.7) is out.
im like hey whats up hello
35:13 I'm pretty sure that that placement doesn't mean it's the fourth hardest. the rankings are high, medium, and low but inside those rankings it is just listed alphabetically. since Crystal Garden starts with a C it is listed at the top of all the tier 1 goldens.
@@MatchaTea124 yeah i was fully aware of that, maybe i shouldve made that fact more clear and not just said "4th hardest"
Parrot Dash's pronounsssssssssssssss
massive congratulations to seaze for doing the crystal garden 1.6 golden, and congratulations to an entirely separate seaze for making this great video
don't forget the seaze that did 1.4 and also the seaze that talks in discord
Frrrr
@@JohnDoe-l4d9h Not cool, it's a joke
@@SomebodyOnTheInternetLol you right
"I LOVE CRYSTAL GARDEN" - Seaze
"I HATE CRYSTAL GARDEN" - Spkii
My teacher is making me write a report on any documentary we can find, as long as it’s at least 30 minutes long.
This is a documentary now. Don't worry about it.
so true
did the report go well??
@@leaf1673 yes 👍
@@dubstepdoughnutWWW
@@dubstepdoughnutwhat grade
congratulations to seaze for beating chapter 5 of celeste!
This is such a good comment lmao
Certified cnet flex moment.
i literally just finished that chapter i am in immense pain ,.,,
@@SilicosisNotBetait gets worse dont worry
@@leaf1673no
Having to constantly refer to yourself in 3rd person just cements you're the main character of cg
Great work man banger edits hyperfrogeline
Having to constantly wefew to youwself in 3wd pewson just cements you’we the main chawactew of cg
Gweat wowk man bangew edits hypewfrogeline
@@JohnDoe-l4d9hShwud da fwug uwb
man this seaze guy is cracked, glad we have journalists like seaze to record the achievements of athletes like seaze.
Pls make more videos in this style, I think the Celeste community need it, there's much cool histories happening, and as an other great game teach me once "A history isn't a history if it's not told"
idk if i will because im just not super knowledgable in a lot of celeste stuff
I've always thought this map was so cool, i remember being in the server when the room 4 ending cheese was found and i thought it was SO sick, it stuck with me for sure
vivid abyss key 6
@@_dan1715 yep
Banger video. Wished we got more stuff like this from the community
same tbh also thanks
I wish i could like this video 10 million times. This is one of the best Celeste videos i’ve ever seen! Incredible job Seaze :D
okay edit actually heres just random Notes
17:38 - ur reclear was in fact Not the first reclear, cuz i recleared it on may 24th (it was 518 deaths and took a bit over an hour) lol
21:39 - goldens arent ordered by difficulty within subtiers, theyre ordered alphabetically, so "around 20th" is wrong but i guess close enough?
35:13 - it was Never the 4th hardest golden, again, subtiers are alphabetical. there are several high tier 1 goldens that are harder (also showing that its not really close to tier 0)
1) oh wow interesting why was that never on the hlist low death spreadsheet ever considering you own it, i asked some ppl if anyone had recleared before me but everyone said no, maybe i shouldve researched that a bit more
2) yeah its just an estimate
3) fair but the tier 0 / high tier 1 discussions made me assume it was somewhere around there, ofc no one really knows anything rn tho so maybe i shouldnt have said that at all because its a complete shot in the dark
@@seazeiscool it was in fact on the low death sheet but since you beat it like 2 weeks later u probably just never noticed, u can see my reclear n stuff on my personal sheet in the celeste tab
its just a dumb nitpick but i wouldve said ~25 instead of 20, doesnt rly matter lol,
and ya 👍 :3
20:29 when watching this I was half paying attention and I missheard what was said (or at least what it sounded like), so I thought "oh right now I can see what SeazelsCool sounds like! Completely forgetting that it is literally the voice that I have been listening to for 20 minutes
11:34
"oh, they beat it!"
*Checks time left*
2:43 Celeste is a game built with many different solutions in mind. The game, especially the early game, has many different routes the player can take in each room, and that's completely intentional. Why would a mod creator go out of their way to make sure that their room only has one solution? That just seems stupid, unintuitive, and overall disrespectful to players.
well yeah Etpio had some very questionable opinions relating to celeste
@@seazeiscool yeah that makes sense actually
@ExtemTheHedgehogLol”In my opinion a bind for demo dashing isn’t too far off from something like assist mode”
I love Seaze, he's so cool for making this video about Celeste's most infamous mod!
I only knew about crystal garden from the hard list bingo, never knew how insanely difficult and interesting the maps history has been.
Also amazing music choices, it makes me want to eventually clear CG myself
amazing video, it was really interesting to hear so much history about crystal garden, and massive GGs on 1.6 golden!
Damn this video is underrated! Really fun watch, thanks for making this masterpiece!
and thanks to you for watching it !!
awesome stuff! from seeing the initial script for this video, to watching it fully put together, I'm genuinely incredibly impressed with how well this video was made! great work seaze, (the man who cleared crystal garden deathless)!
What a fantastic vid. Great story, amazing editing, sick music choice, a tier 1 youtube vid if I've ever seen one
In the first 2 seconds i am already impressed because you pointed out that you made captions for the video! Thank you :)
GG on The Golden I couldnt even do a Low Death run on this The Nightmare of a map it would leave me in a Cold Sweat having a Lucid Nightmares about it. I could probably Never Beat It but you did with Supersonic speed. Your skill truly is an Ocular Miracle.
Nice
congrats on the golden, i will now go cry into my 1a and 2a goldens. no but for real, the celeste modding scene is something else and as a casual player, i‘m very happy to observe from a distance. content like this is super fascinating to me because my philosophy with celeste is that i will solve every screen eventually, the question is just when and will i give up beforehand. in this case i would have thrown my controller across the room and cried into my pillow uncontrollably so mad respect to anyone who even got past the first room.
Very good video! The video was very engaging and interesting, I had seen you cg 1.6 golden but didnt know how hard it truly was. Hopefully this blows up.
god DAMN congrats on your cg1.6 golden
and also this video is really well made and good enough to not feel boring, good job! :3
Scrumptious.
True
Amazing! This is one of my favorite types of video.
This guy plays Celeste AND geometry dash, while making great videos. What a chad.
Nice video, I see cg is still going strong in the community. Maybe I should take a look at the other rooms ;)
24:30 I love this video, it's great and you did such a great job that I remembered this video existed even though it was 8month ago, I am currently watching it again and I am really enjoying it :D
this is some of the first celeste-focused content ive seen as a geometry dash community fan, but this video by itself inspired me to try celeste just based off of the similarity i can imagine if the communities have THAT much in common , especially in the cultures regarding the hardest levels
I remember the day you dropped the golden in #achievements. Rarely seen that many frogs. Amazing vid, this type of content is always so damn good
epic video, this is my third time rewatching (not in a row) defiantly a video worth watching.
4th time now!
Great video! Congrats for achieving this golden and i hope that your mind is doing better now that it's over
Amazing video seaze, congrats on getting 2 goldens on one map, an incredibly hard map at that.
society if deathkontrol never made gem garden:
society would be ruined in that case.
This video is sick! I love the editing and explanation. Keep up the good work!
Awesome video dude, I would love to hear some more history videos about crazy celeste achievements
Wish there were more videos like this because I find them quite interesting.
"You're not a mountain climber!"
-Badeline
8 months since this video was made and he’s still hearting comments, Godspeed Seaze and congrats!!!!
"a map created with the intent of being fully impossible for anyone to do" oh yeah well then why is there a crystal heart
checkmate
I only started playing Celeste this year and I had no idea of this map's history, super cool!
Amazing achievement getting BOTH first deathless' - and a really good video on this maps history
I love how this entire video basically exists to more effectively flex your own achievement. Really interesting stuff though, even as someone active in the community I wasn't familiar with all the history surrounding the map so it's really cool to see a deep dive like this.
By the way, making a tiny mod to the room to give it a completely different solution is literally a thing baba is you does all the time! It’s so incredible
yeah its awesome! also i assume you meant to post this comment on the puzzle map video and not this one lmao
@@seazeiscool lmao actually yeah, I was watching them on a PC and pulled it up on my phone to comment
GG on 1.6 cg golden and gj on this video essay it was well structured and super enjoyable to watch.
I know this is a bit unrelated but love the use of the oneshot ost
ty im very happy with the music usage i did here
Too unfortunate Celeste RUclipsrs don't get the attention they deserve
This video is so well done amazing job
A lot of people don't like this map... and not for entirely unfounded reasons. It's brutal, it's uncompromising, it doesn't care about things like human rng/subpixel checks. It's often clowned on as the pinnacle of "mapper can't live with players cheesing their map". And yet I have to admire it for that; the map's premise, from Etpio himself, is to be a map to push the very limits of the best of the best players. Celeste players, I've noticed, tend to underestimate where the community's skill level will be in some time (xyz golden is impossible, you know how it goes) and yet Etpio managed to the map off so well that it holds up to that promise (at least with intended routing) to this day. And it does it with style - the moves room 2 pulls with feathers, for example, are rarely seen even in today's maps. I honestly do hope this map does get that next round of decheese, so it can better fulfill its premise.
A lot of people don't like Etpio, either... and not for entirely unfounded reasons. He can have very... unconventional opinions about celeste maps, which he defends with gusto and an often conceited tone. But, having interacted with him a lot during the development of the Flusheline Community Collab, he's also a very smart fellow. He knows his way around Celeste very well, and is able to create consistently fresh and interesting gameplay; I hold him, in a sense, in high regard for that. I managed to playtest one of the maps in his unreleased campaign, and that level became favorite celeste map to date.
All of this to say: I haven't seen Etpio send a message on discord in almost a year now. I hope he's alright.
Omg hi toby
absolutely agree with everything here
Oh get a load of this guy
This guy and his scary basement….
Honestly... this inspires me to keep working on my own game, no matter how bad or frustrating it may be.
etppio😢
My god the video was amazing. I salute you and your sanity loss, my god have mercy on your wretched soul.
Very good video, I had a good time watching! :3
I swear parrot is everywhere, she has so many recorded runs from every mod
Wow this video just appeared in my recommended. Awesome video, seaze
i loved this video despite haven't even beaten farewell (and understood most of it :)
thank you for a very cool video uncovering the insanity that is modded celeste maps.
damn, banger video seaze. i would not have believed a video about cg would make me kind of want to play the map lmao
This was super interesting thank you
W VIDEO HOLY SHIT. very very cool, i didnt know you were this good at celeste lmao
[GOOD] How Celeste’s Most Infamous Mod Was Beaten
i love the strawberry jam music in the background
Man making me nostalgic and sad playing all that OneShot music
Actually so interesting, very good video. Keep it up 😊
I love this channel it’s so underrated
I love it when people refer to themselves in third person
i'm so amazed that people pull off things like this meanwhile i'm losing my sanity to the vanilla hotel level
great video, didnt even know basically 40 minutes had passed!
24:23 top 10 biggest plot twists in history. (I was not expecting them to be one of the people running the map)
Referring to yourself in third person is a bold creative choice
not a good one
Really cool of you to give recognition to lesser known players like seaze. Maybe you could do a vid on that tas guy next, he seems pretty good too.
This is a really neat video - excellent presentation and script, thank you for putting this together :)
For constructive feedback, I'll mention, that I personally have to practice enunciating words a ton, so I felt like it was appropriate to mention that to you. Practicing proper enunciation is no fun and tedious... And I'm slacking on it myself too much o-o
18:32 I knew it was chicory on the first beat😍♥️🤩😍♥️🤩
dude this is banger. i looked at your subs and its only 3k. u deserve better
I can tell you're a big fan of Seaze. You made an entire documentary about his journey, and you're even praising him in your youtube channel name.
unsure if this is ironic or not but i am seaze
@@seazeiscool it was ironic lol - great video!
omg its seaze garden cristal from pord! (now seriously AMAEZING VIDEO!!)
thank u !!
"seaze is my favourite runner and is the best person in the video" (there is a gun to my head)
The one thing that gets me is how this was supposed to be the *easiest* checkpoint of a much larger map
i have a question: what difficulty is room 1's intended route and what do people predict the entire map's (intended route) difficulty to be? Will it be higher than d+ or even GM+3?
room-1 intended is easily gm+2, the other rooms i have zero clue and its not really productive to guess before the intended route has even been found for the other rooms
etpio originally said the map was gm+2 but idk how much i trust that estimate, wouldnt be surprised if it actually was harder
you're like a shounen protagonist fighting against the impossible using nothing but pure iron will and skill
As a Pizza Tower Player, I Approve This.
…snotty approved.
I love how Seaze talks in the third person during the whole video
Very cool video and very enjoyable even as someone who is'nt too familiar with modded celeste ! Do you plan on making more videos like this ?
thanks, i might make more like this but im unsure, also happy to see someone that isnt super familiar with modded celeste be able to enjoy it, i tried my best to make it accessible and everything
I remember getting to room 3 then deciding to not waste my time trying to play this kaizo modpack
17:26 can we talk about the fourth map being called "Madeline votes in the U.S. Presidential Election D-side" tho?
took me until the keyboard tapping to realize you were the one to golden 1.6
i like how you're talking about yourself from third person
“Golly, this video is sick, wonder who made it”
Great video !
Bro used third person narrative so hard just to surprise watchers that the creator of this video is the same person that did the Crystal Garden Deathless Run. What a Madlad humble person.
The only feedback I would give is: the video felt muffled. maybe a better mic or better recording environment would fix that? idk I'm just a commenter but you'll figure it out since you are megalomaniacly good at it. Massive congrats btw! 🎉🎉🎉
This map needs more glow and bloom.
insert constructive criticism and feedback here
the Wirtual of Celeste content has arrived
PS. use first person when you talk about yourself / would be cool to get more of that perspective
PPS. "I UNLOCKED CELESTE GENETICS" is one of the quotes of all time
Very good video, I didn't expect there to be so few views, it deserves more, I hope that other videos on Celeste as good will be published
GG for the golden, do you intend to do a new golden?
0:37 hey i wonder who did that
This was very cool.
I didn't look at the channel name before watching this video so I didn't realize Seaze was talking about himself in the third person until the end of the video
Tgis vid is insanely good 👍 👌 i subbed and liked
I got this video recommended to me, and i was confused on why i remember you... Then I realized you're on the pigchefer discord! Congrats, and amazing video!
the dev really should post a video showing the complete intended solution. its sad they waited so long. the solution was forgotten.
Btw, the second 1.4 golden was done on my 16th birthday.