Tone match but Ozone soundet best in every aspect. Should I switch to this instead of Logic AI Mastering Assistant (first mastering assistant I've tried)?
My guy, you crushed it, I linked you in the description and mentioned that you offered mixing AND mastering for the $50. great job again and appreciate you taking the time!
Off of my personal preference, the Ozone 10 version sounds so much better than all of the Fiverr masters. They weren't bad, but straight out the gate, the Ozone version sounds loud, bright, and fitting for this track. Great review!
Yeah man, I agree. Ozone just did spread, volume and heat on mids.. This isn't mastering at all. The Mids got extremely annoying to be honest. The guy who did the 100 dollar master is top tier
Honestly I think the 100$ master was the best for sure - ozone sounded a bit harsh/overcompressed to me even with the tone matching at the end! But as you say you could turn down the highs a little and maybe that does it..! interesting features on Ozone though, for sure. I have version 7 and consider the upgrade..!
I greatly appreciate this scientific approach to a good cross comparison of mastering. I just recently purchased Ozone 10, and I have also paid producers on Fiverr to master my music. This is a completely enlightening video, and please make more of them!
Ozone has more of a scratchiness, noise. The $100 is the best, it brings out detail, especially the sustain/tail of the bass. The others are also not bad.
Excellent comparative video. If you reduced -1.5db from the OZONE, it would be perfect, open and clear sound, the one that is best heard on my cell phone, remember that we no longer listen to speakers (excepting in our cars)...EXCELENT VIDEO man thanks for sharing!
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Ozone mastering plugin is really top-notch piece of software, I've been using it previously, but eventually went for Waves's Abbey Road TG Master Chain, which I think gives more solid results. Yeah, it uses relatively old piece of hardware emulation to do mastering, but since I am orientated to producing acoustic, rock music, I find it gives more saturated, warm, punchy mixes, like those in 70's, which I really like.
The tone match of the $100 was cool but it cost $100 to get that, plus the cost of Ozone. And when level matched it was suddenly very clear that for whatever reason the tone matched version took out all of the sweet top end that I didn’t even realize was so well executed in the $100 master. For me the true test of a good master is if the loudest one that seems to sound the best, when level matched back down to mix level, is actually the best. Then compare them all at the same lufs at the chorus. That’s when I can really discern the differences in tone.
Great note here and totally agree, the cool thing is you can tone match to any song and use it as a starting point, I think if I really took the time to dial in the master I could make it just right!
Ozone 10 definitively had the most energy and brought the track to life! Maybe a bit too much energy for some people, but I think I the ozone master was the best. 👍
Ozone sounds good, but i felt like it sounded a little distorted at times? I'm sure once dialed in, is a game changer! Also, using a reference was $$$. I must say way the low end moves on the $100 master is nice. Keep up the good vids Mat!
Yo appreciate the comment! Listening though my Neumann's it sounded clean, I think once you have it dialed (as you mentioned) you can really get a distribution ready master!
I'm so used to a fact that as soon as Ozone releases a new mastering plugin, all RUclipsrs make excited videos about it =) Actually, I can tell what will be said even before watching the video =)
I also Paid 3 people to Master on Fiverr before I saw this and also found Ozone was muuuuch better....and i learned how to mix and master in the process.
Its crazy how the Ozone plugin isn't as compressed and lacks the width in the waveform, yet sounds just as punchy and dynamic (if not more dynamic at times) then the other 3 mixes. #2 gives # 3 a strong run for its money in my opinion. In the end though I'd have to go with Ozone over all. It would be nice to hear all the mixes in a car, and on cheaper systems. Good stuff👍🏿 SUBBED!
I personally find it stupid to test your tracks on other systems. Just make sure it is of or higher than the quality of your favorite songs on your favorite sound system. Everything else should fit in place. Also, some sound systems make it shitty by default. Cars suck.
@@projectepsilon9851 And that's why it's the biggest challenge to make your songs sound good in a car, while others can, but yours not. Some freaks even mix or finish the mix it in a car for that reason. If all your tracks sound bad in a car, it's a bad sign. Also not all cars s***.
Ozone is great!! I use it and add my own sauce with some waves mastering plugins. The highs seem to lack on ozone but then again im using ozone 9 , haven't gotten 10 yet. Sooo....
I'm going to rank them: $100, $50, Ozone, $15. If you tamed the highs on Ozone, I would then re-rank them, $100, Ozone, $50, $15. I think the 100 dollar master has dynamics, it has the right amount of bass, clarity in the top end, but not too bright like the ozone. Overall I think its the most balanced and you could listen to it for the longest period, without ear fatigue.
Well observed. I don't think AI will ever replace human ears and it's capability to adapt. Even if Ozone created such a perfect mastering, it won't ever make separate mid/side manual adjustments or automations. Mastering is so much more that just EQ or compressions. Also, ozone is a good choice for plugin matter, but no plugins in the world can be better than a full analog Mastering, which is the most common in hight tier music industry
Many thanks for this comparison. It would be great to compare all of them with a matching gain or the same lufs. Ozone is much louder than the other ones. But however, the 100 $ Master is sounding much cleaner in my ears.
Oh that's a GREAT idea! The $100 master was indeed great! If you stuck around till the VERY end after the black, I tone matched the $100 master in Ozone and the results are...well...INSANE
To me the 50bucks gets it right and will probably sound more consistent on all platforms and audio devices but as you say it’s all a matter of perception
Yeah it's interesting. I think for my ears, purely sonically, the 100 dollar and 50 dollar version sounded the most pleasing and they didn't change the sound of your mix, but knowing that most people will listen to the song with phone speakers, small bluetooth speakers and earbuds, the Ozone version with a more pronounced upper mid-range and hyped spatial width will probably pop out more and definitely is not worse. Although I did find the Ozone version somewhat more irritating sounding. Interestingly, Ozone was the only out of this bunch that increased the width and spatial feel of the mix substancially - so that was definitely a plus for Ozone. With Ozone the risk with version 9 - perhaps less with 10 - is that the auto mastering used to always apply very bright EQ curves that are fatiguing. I think with the new version it seems to have gotten a bit less crazy about adding excessive top end and focuses more on pushing mid-range, and the new stabilizer module really balances the sound well. So I think Ozone 10 is a great tool for anyone, but a real engineer has the upper hand. Interesting - the gap is getting smaller and smaller though.
Nice vid. It would nice to somehow to do this comparison blind to minimize unconscious bias. Like not knowing which master is which till after you choose your favorite.
Ozone master, to me, takes the 3rd place. It got really mid range focused, lost a lot of transient and impact, squished everything where the low end lost all the punch. 100 and 50 bucks are dynamic, with a pleasant curve for the ears even at loud level. I'm listening to it on NS-10s.
Hello, a point about comparison methodology; humans are biased, one of our bias is the loudness bias. That mean louder always seems to sound better. Take 2 identical track. Low a track by 1dB; when compared the louder will sound better every time. So, to compare sounds, they have to be level match. Without matching comparaison is biased., it’s the principle of the loudness war. Loudness is mesures with Lufs. To be objective the levels in lufs should have been match at0;1dB. Then comparution would have make sense.
I agree with this 100%, and while it’s not a true loudness comparison, overall Ozone is louder given that all the tracks are reading 0db on the master channel. Next time I compare I’ll DEFINITELY toss up a luf meter just to show, great idea!
great video, it s the first time that I have great results with mastering with Ozone 10 Advanced...it makes everything easy to go back to mix to make some adjustments and voilá...buy the fuckung Izotope
If you listen to the Kick, in the raw mix it's really nice like a basketball, has life in it. EVERY Master here sounds so different to the original. That's not what Mastering should be. Yes, if you just make it louder, you kill the nice Basketball Transient From the kick. So you have to make it louder like a PRO or just leave the raw mix. But the 100$ at least is more balanced in frequency, not that muddy and has more depth...
You are really great at explaining this Plugin. I have watched several videos on this Plugin and you have a knack for simplifying the information to where I can understand it. That surprise ending when you Mastered that other version was really cool. Too bad Ozone 10 Advanced, costs over 400 dollars. That is more than I can afford for now. Someone needs to do a video comparing Ozone 10 Advanced with Ozone Elements, which costs very little or sometimes it can be had for free.
Haha! Yeah, the tone-matched version at the end is killer! The initial Ozone master-in-progress sounds a lot louder, but (for me) at the expense of increased ear-fatigue from the boost in upper mids. It sounds fantastic for a few seconds, but quickly wears me out. BUT--that's just your quick, one-off take on it. Like you experienced, it's all definitely there! Just needs fine tuned a bit. Super helpful video and really well done, thanks much for this! I just upgraded from v9 to v10, and despite having had Ozone for years (since v6 I think..), I've been having fun re-discovering how great the individual modules are--amazing stuff. Damn, that vintage compressor is crazy good. I coulda stopped buying compressors years ago!😭lol
If the Ozone one was gain matched to be the same volume as the others it wouldn't sound as good in comparison, there's still some annoying resonances in the mid-range, but the loudness tricks the brain into thinking it's better
Ozone sounds amazing. Maybe removing that soft limiter to recover the dynamics would be nice and add a bit or low end? Idk I'm listening on my cheap headphones. 😂😂😂
Of course, who’s to say these guys you were paying weren’t simply using Ozone themselves? If so, it would simply be which one do you think has better taste?
Hey Matnetik, Love the content. I wanted to share a free plugin similar to the stabilizer in Ozone. It's the TRD Nova by Tokyo Dawn Labs. Had it for years and love the Eq compression on this plug in. Now it's just a part, but a cool multi band EQ compressor.
Ozone has weirdly pushed mids compared to the 100$ master. Comparing the qualities of these masters should include a comparison with compensated levels between them too.
I now think as i thought in the past about ozone 8 that eq matching and other AI processes made with ozone sound like a little bit unnatural, like in this track for example the $50 and $100 guys made the song sound natural with not too accentuated mids or highs, unlike ozone that sound like it's doing a +4db bell from 3khz to 8khz range, like you've said, its a little too bright. I don't know why but ozone's assistant likes a bright sound overall.
I think the Ozone stuff is really decent but I prefer the 100,- master. It's way more tight, a little cleaner, that little voice line doesn't jump at you as much as with the ozone one.
They're all too bright, and there's lost mid-range definition, but the Ozone mix is my favorite. I use Ozone 10 with my mastering preset stored on every mix. Mixing will drive you insane if you're a perfectionist, and have OCD, lol. It comes down to the song, and how the recorded performance is, first and foremost!
Guys, Ozone is a great option for saving money, it deliverers a good quality but, if you're talking professional level, ozone master is pretty trash. The 100 dollar master sounds amazing, high tier work. Mastering isn't just volume, keep that in minda
Very nice comparison. A couple of thoughts though.... Would be great to use some other type of music too to get a good feel for it (understand the cost is becoming am issue for buying double). And I also don't know if RUclips really gives the real audio output of what it sounds like in your studio. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
IMO $100 is the best by far > $50 comes close > $15 was okayish, not the best but pretty decent > ozone - the worst one, doesn't sound pleasant at all. The AI on this thing is pretty bad actually, it can barely even guess the right genre, I'm not even saying about the rest
Ozone 10 in verse 2 was a mess for me... The guy that mastered for $100 seems to know very well how to do the job, it seems that he used multiband processing (everything seems to be in its place) and the good use of compressors also because when it comes soft or hard transients in the track, the song doesn't get ruined. Mastering is about listening to the song and analize it so you can think what you can add to it (or clean) to make it sound better (and remember that one reference track is important). Mastering is not simply make it sound louder.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown! Did you watch the end where I tone matched the $100 master on Ozone? Pretty impressive! This is definitely more of a plug-in breakdown than a detailed how to master video but I do believe ozone is extremely powerful and can make an equivalent master, cheers!
@@matnetik Yeah! That was really impressive! the strong point of iZotope is their AI technology, (that's the reason I mentioned the reference track!). Still... I think you should do some manual adjustments for less distortion. I think will go for Komplete 14 Standard, so Ozone Standard is included... and after that I will upgrade maybe to Advance version. I think Ozone advance is still worth the money! You can imagine how expensive can be to pay $100 for each of your songs!!!
Oh yeah couldn't agree more! Good point on the reference track as well, honestly that's one of the most useful tools in the plugin! Thanks for watching and commenting, pretty dope that K14 includes it now as well
First of all. OZONE 10- Its NOT an auto-master. And it never was. Ozone listens to 5 seconds of an audio file, and vomits up some modules. Its not nor was it ever intended to be an "auto master". Its an assistant to get mastering started. Thats it.
Ozone , 50, 100, 15, but I think the 50 dollar master was the closest to the computer. He might have had to increase volume and the with of the middle & side. The fifty's dollar guy was closet to the ozone..volume aside.
I think I can hear aliasing in the bells in Ozone master, but maybe it's just the overall brightness on the Zone master. Is there an oversampling option in Ozone? By the way, I like the most expensive one the most.
@@---pp7tq I know but i don`t use Reaper, but you can also oversample every plugin in every DAW using DDMF Metaplugin. But i doesn`t matter, every plugin that provides distortion, yes even compression does, should have an oversampling option these days.
Your Ozone master is sounding louder because you picked the Dj mode... But it doesnt sounds better... In any case the Ozone is an AMAZING and mindblowing tool, still im a bit afraid that all master will sound the same if people starts using it over and over...
I think the Ozone sounded better after the tone adjustment, but the initial master sounded very... artificial (sorry if that's too on the nose). The 100$ master sounded organic, like it was done with care and understanding. Ozone is definitely super cool, and it obviously gives you the tools to sculpt the mastering after it does its automatic thing, but I don't think there's a substitute (for now) for the human touch.
In the end its taste and musicality that counts. And thats very individually. It depends on your soundsystem too. One master might have strenghts on a 20 bucks bluetooth, another on your high class 2000 bucks stereo, onother on the headphones, in-ear, 5.1 with dub, without sub.... With mastering you can get lost in the details. Very lost... So letting others get mad on the mix can be worth money. If you have no spare money, ozone gives you mastering in a good quality. You do not have even that money for ozone, start with the hornet master tool.
master_me is not bad completely free automatic and adjustable mastering chain, while Hornet is 20 bucks - but still noticeably cheaper than RX10 Advanced.
i think the third one was the clenaset and it sounded the best to my eears ... ozone is ok but its not as good as the 100 dolar .... i think 3rd one than 2one and then1st one ozone is last for me ..
100USD one sounds wider. Maybe cause its (too?) loud...the ozone makes feel like your ears would get much faster tired. of course best would be to level match and listen but i prefer the 100USD one. Though it is incredible to get a that good result that fast with Ozone...for sync licensing, which i do also....a great way, still i will stick with wavelab 11 and my plugins. You get to know your tracks also much better when you manually master.
Wow FUN vid... Truly Felt like I was right there w you... mouth open, double taking stares as ozone kinda put the shades on and slow dropped the mic on all of us. Way to let a grass roots real world test do the talking....
Worst to best 15 - Ozone - 50 -100 Ozone whilst loud is far too crushed. ruined all the punch. However I don't think the 100 is woth 100 it's not quite loud enough. 100 is steep for Mastering
Not sure where to place the Stabilizer in the chain. Most of the time I have it towards the end pretty much post every module just before the Imager and Maximizer. But still not sure that's the best place.
I think that's a solid place for it, since it's doing micro dynamic changes, it should definitely be post compressor, eq and anything that's make big changes! You should always try using the master assist on a track and see where it places it!
@@matnetik The Master Asst places it early in the chain right after the EQ so that threw me off. I would think that after you EQ and use the Impact and/or Vintage Tape and Exciter etc you'd want the Stabilizer to smooth things out and shape the audio post all the modules but who knows.
The winner is definitely the end of the video; Ozone tone-matching to the 100 dollar master!
I am so happy some people stuck around till the very end because that tone-match is game changing haha
That was actually insane
Tone match but Ozone soundet best in every aspect. Should I switch to this instead of Logic AI Mastering Assistant (first mastering assistant I've tried)?
Randomly found this video, I’m the $50 guy 😂. Thanks everyone for commenting and specially those who preferred mine!
My guy, you crushed it, I linked you in the description and mentioned that you offered mixing AND mastering for the $50. great job again and appreciate you taking the time!
@@matnetik what his fever name ?
oscar i need you
@@prodbydramatic I’m here 🎚️
Good job dude! What did you use to Master this track?
Off of my personal preference, the Ozone 10 version sounds so much better than all of the Fiverr masters. They weren't bad, but straight out the gate, the Ozone version sounds loud, bright, and fitting for this track. Great review!
yeah!!!!
already made a fiverr account, ozone will pay for itself lol jk
The $100 Mix takes the winning price for me, its clean and well balanced as for Ozone 10 mix was to centered short of little stereo spread.
Yeah man, I agree. Ozone just did spread, volume and heat on mids.. This isn't mastering at all. The Mids got extremely annoying to be honest. The guy who did the 100 dollar master is top tier
@@onesynth8940 Mids are the best... no Mids songs sounding boring, but you're right, too much, no good
Honestly I think the 100$ master was the best for sure - ozone sounded a bit harsh/overcompressed to me even with the tone matching at the end! But as you say you could turn down the highs a little and maybe that does it..! interesting features on Ozone though, for sure. I have version 7 and consider the upgrade..!
I greatly appreciate this scientific approach to a good cross comparison of mastering. I just recently purchased Ozone 10, and I have also paid producers on Fiverr to master my music. This is a completely enlightening video, and please make more of them!
The style/format of this video is really dope man, keep it up!!
Truly appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!
I’m pleased someone is putting it out there , different perceptions aside. Louder isn’t necessarily better.
100P on this, loudness isn’t everything, and we can all turn it up if needed haha, appreciate you watching!
I was so impressed with Ozone 10 when i tried it , never liked izotope mastering plugins expect for Tonal Balance Control , but Ozone 10 is a winner
Mastering engineers are way more better than ozone 10 . Yeah ozone 10 can be used as a reference point.
I don’t know how I missed this one. Great video, brother! Probably my fav of yours yet.
Ozone has more of a scratchiness, noise. The $100 is the best, it brings out detail, especially the sustain/tail of the bass. The others are also not bad.
So, i'm liking the $50 and $100 master for the "glue" effect of the bus compressor that Ozone didn't have.
Excellent comparative video. If you reduced -1.5db from the OZONE, it would be perfect, open and clear sound, the one that is best heard on my cell phone, remember that we no longer listen to speakers (excepting in our cars)...EXCELENT VIDEO man thanks for sharing!
Ozone mastering plugin is really top-notch piece of software, I've been using it previously, but eventually went for Waves's Abbey Road TG Master Chain, which I think gives more solid results. Yeah, it uses relatively old piece of hardware emulation to do mastering, but since I am orientated to producing acoustic, rock music, I find it gives more saturated, warm, punchy mixes, like those in 70's, which I really like.
The tone match of the $100 was cool but it cost $100 to get that, plus the cost of Ozone. And when level matched it was suddenly very clear that for whatever reason the tone matched version took out all of the sweet top end that I didn’t even realize was so well executed in the $100 master.
For me the true test of a good master is if the loudest one that seems to sound the best, when level matched back down to mix level, is actually the best. Then compare them all at the same lufs at the chorus. That’s when I can really discern the differences in tone.
Great note here and totally agree, the cool thing is you can tone match to any song and use it as a starting point, I think if I really took the time to dial in the master I could make it just right!
Ozone 10 definitively had the most energy and brought the track to life! Maybe a bit too much energy for some people, but I think I the ozone master was the best. 👍
Ozone sounds good, but i felt like it sounded a little distorted at times? I'm sure once dialed in, is a game changer! Also, using a reference was $$$. I must say way the low end moves on the $100 master is nice. Keep up the good vids Mat!
Yo appreciate the comment! Listening though my Neumann's it sounded clean, I think once you have it dialed (as you mentioned) you can really get a distribution ready master!
Awesome comparison! Makes me feel real good that I just got Ozone 10! Thanks alot :)
I'm so used to a fact that as soon as Ozone releases a new mastering plugin, all RUclipsrs make excited videos about it =)
Actually, I can tell what will be said even before watching the video =)
This is actually the first video I have made about Ozone but I have been using it for over 10 years!
I also Paid 3 people to Master on Fiverr before I saw this and also found Ozone was muuuuch better....and i learned how to mix and master in the process.
Its crazy how the Ozone plugin isn't as compressed and lacks the width in the waveform, yet sounds just as punchy and dynamic (if not more dynamic at times) then the other 3 mixes.
#2 gives # 3 a strong run for its money in my opinion.
In the end though I'd have to go with Ozone over all.
It would be nice to hear all the mixes in a car, and on cheaper systems.
Good stuff👍🏿
SUBBED!
I personally find it stupid to test your tracks on other systems. Just make sure it is of or higher than the quality of your favorite songs on your favorite sound system. Everything else should fit in place. Also, some sound systems make it shitty by default. Cars suck.
@@projectepsilon9851 And that's why it's the biggest challenge to make your songs sound good in a car, while others can, but yours not.
Some freaks even mix or finish the mix it in a car for that reason.
If all your tracks sound bad in a car, it's a bad sign. Also not all cars s***.
The very end of the video was insane... Tone Match .... Amazing
Ozone is great!! I use it and add my own sauce with some waves mastering plugins. The highs seem to lack on ozone but then again im using ozone 9 , haven't gotten 10 yet. Sooo....
I'm going to rank them: $100, $50, Ozone, $15.
If you tamed the highs on Ozone, I would then re-rank them, $100, Ozone, $50, $15.
I think the 100 dollar master has dynamics, it has the right amount of bass, clarity in the top end, but not too bright like the ozone. Overall I think its the most balanced and you could listen to it for the longest period, without ear fatigue.
Well said!
Well observed. I don't think AI will ever replace human ears and it's capability to adapt. Even if Ozone created such a perfect mastering, it won't ever make separate mid/side manual adjustments or automations. Mastering is so much more that just EQ or compressions. Also, ozone is a good choice for plugin matter, but no plugins in the world can be better than a full analog Mastering, which is the most common in hight tier music industry
@@onesynth8940 Wait, are you saying Ozone doesn't have separate mid/side manual adjustments? Cos it does, at least the earlier version I used.
Many thanks for this comparison. It would be great to compare all of them with a matching gain or the same lufs. Ozone is much louder than the other ones. But however, the 100 $ Master is sounding much cleaner in my ears.
Oh that's a GREAT idea! The $100 master was indeed great! If you stuck around till the VERY end after the black, I tone matched the $100 master in Ozone and the results are...well...INSANE
You knew the $100 master sounded the best, Stop the cap.
To me the 50bucks gets it right and will probably sound more consistent on all platforms and audio devices but as you say it’s all a matter of perception
Thanks man! ($50 guy here 🤘😂)
@@Auzkar well done you !! Best clarity and dynamic and nice low end !!
wowww ozone 10 the best Master over all loudness and dynamics
00:14:32 You did not cut the highs. You decreased the impact of the stabilizer. So, you've got more highs.
His description of the soft clip function is also... not great
"Basically it makes your track louder and it maintains the high-fidelity"
Yeah it's interesting. I think for my ears, purely sonically, the 100 dollar and 50 dollar version sounded the most pleasing and they didn't change the sound of your mix, but knowing that most people will listen to the song with phone speakers, small bluetooth speakers and earbuds, the Ozone version with a more pronounced upper mid-range and hyped spatial width will probably pop out more and definitely is not worse. Although I did find the Ozone version somewhat more irritating sounding. Interestingly, Ozone was the only out of this bunch that increased the width and spatial feel of the mix substancially - so that was definitely a plus for Ozone. With Ozone the risk with version 9 - perhaps less with 10 - is that the auto mastering used to always apply very bright EQ curves that are fatiguing. I think with the new version it seems to have gotten a bit less crazy about adding excessive top end and focuses more on pushing mid-range, and the new stabilizer module really balances the sound well. So I think Ozone 10 is a great tool for anyone, but a real engineer has the upper hand. Interesting - the gap is getting smaller and smaller though.
Couldn’t agree more with the comment. Very well said
Nice vid. It would nice to somehow to do this comparison blind to minimize unconscious bias. Like not knowing which master is which till after you choose your favorite.
Great idea!! Maybe for the next update?! 💪
Ozone master, to me, takes the 3rd place.
It got really mid range focused, lost a lot of transient and impact, squished everything where the low end lost all the punch.
100 and 50 bucks are dynamic, with a pleasant curve for the ears even at loud level.
I'm listening to it on NS-10s.
Really good comparison. I think the 100$ is the Best, second the 50$, third the ozone and last the 15$.
Hello, a point about comparison methodology; humans are biased, one of our bias is the loudness bias. That mean louder always seems to sound better. Take 2 identical track. Low a track by 1dB; when compared the louder will sound better every time. So, to compare sounds, they have to be level match. Without matching comparaison is biased., it’s the principle of the loudness war. Loudness is mesures with Lufs. To be objective the levels in lufs should have been match at0;1dB. Then comparution would have make sense.
I agree with this 100%, and while it’s not a true loudness comparison, overall Ozone is louder given that all the tracks are reading 0db on the master channel. Next time I compare I’ll DEFINITELY toss up a luf meter just to show, great idea!
Fantastic video. Thank you Michael, You have inspired to get into soft editing and videos soft design too.
great video, it s the first time that I have great results with mastering with Ozone 10 Advanced...it makes everything easy to go back to mix to make some adjustments and voilá...buy the fuckung Izotope
Appreciate you!
Wow Randomly Got To Your Video Nice Explanation 🔥🔥🙌🏼🙌🏼 The End Was Amazing 😄😄 Just Like Post Credit Scene Like Hollywood Movies 🤣👏👏
glad you stayed till the end!! thanks for watching
If you listen to the Kick, in the raw mix it's really nice like a basketball, has life in it. EVERY Master here sounds so different to the original. That's not what Mastering should be. Yes, if you just make it louder, you kill the nice Basketball Transient From the kick. So you have to make it louder like a PRO or just leave the raw mix. But the 100$ at least is more balanced in frequency, not that muddy and has more depth...
So thankful you invested in this comparison vid. Cool track too!
Thanks for watching, was a fun and interesting video to create!
You are really great at explaining this Plugin. I have watched several videos on this Plugin and you have a knack for simplifying the information to where I can understand it. That surprise ending when you Mastered that other version was really cool. Too bad Ozone 10 Advanced, costs over 400 dollars. That is more than I can afford for now. Someone needs to do a video comparing Ozone 10 Advanced with Ozone Elements, which costs very little or sometimes it can be had for free.
First off, thanks for the kind comment! Love this idea, maybe a future video for sure!
Doing this comparison was a good idea 👍
🙏 Appreciate you!
Haha! Yeah, the tone-matched version at the end is killer! The initial Ozone master-in-progress sounds a lot louder, but (for me) at the expense of increased ear-fatigue from the boost in upper mids. It sounds fantastic for a few seconds, but quickly wears me out. BUT--that's just your quick, one-off take on it. Like you experienced, it's all definitely there! Just needs fine tuned a bit. Super helpful video and really well done, thanks much for this! I just upgraded from v9 to v10, and despite having had Ozone for years (since v6 I think..), I've been having fun re-discovering how great the individual modules are--amazing stuff. Damn, that vintage compressor is crazy good. I coulda stopped buying compressors years ago!😭lol
Yo this comment right here made my day. It’s comments like these that give me motivation to keep making content! Appreciate you watching 🙏
Wow the Ozone is way louder while maintaining the dynamics! Thanks for the video!
Thank you for taking the time and resources to do this comparison!
Thank you for watching!
$50 dollar guy has mojo. Listen to the snare and groove on Verse 2
Ayyyy I even mention the $50 master was pretty dialed!
Thanks man! ($50 guy here ☝️😜)
If the Ozone one was gain matched to be the same volume as the others it wouldn't sound as good in comparison, there's still some annoying resonances in the mid-range, but the loudness tricks the brain into thinking it's better
Literary no one here pointed out these resonances!
Ozone sounds amazing. Maybe removing that soft limiter to recover the dynamics would be nice and add a bit or low end? Idk I'm listening on my cheap headphones. 😂😂😂
ozone for the win, but the $100 master is good too!
Ozone 10 is always a little bright for me but very clean, so it's a good reference / starting point.
Of course, who’s to say these guys you were paying weren’t simply using Ozone themselves? If so, it would simply be which one do you think has better taste?
bingo! or if not Ozone, there's a heck of a lot of other virtual mastering software solutions that they might have used ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Totally agree and they absolutely could have been haha, the $100 master used outboard gear, even sent me a video of the process!
Very informative Video, and that Beat is absolute Fire! Subbed
Hey Matnetik, Love the content. I wanted to share a free plugin similar to the stabilizer in Ozone. It's the TRD Nova by Tokyo Dawn Labs. Had it for years and love the Eq compression on this plug in. Now it's just a part, but a cool multi band EQ compressor.
Appreciate you! Thanks for the comment and for watching, I gotta peep it, there are SO MANY insanely great free plugins that are underutilized-
you should have matched the perceived loudness of all 4 masters to help gauge quality a bit more
Ozone has weirdly pushed mids compared to the 100$ master. Comparing the qualities of these masters should include a comparison with compensated levels between them too.
Loved the comparisons ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Lmao 😂great video love the ending
Haha glad you stayed till the end, thanks!
I now think as i thought in the past about ozone 8 that eq matching and other AI processes made with ozone sound like a little bit unnatural, like in this track for example the $50 and $100 guys made the song sound natural with not too accentuated mids or highs, unlike ozone that sound like it's doing a +4db bell from 3khz to 8khz range, like you've said, its a little too bright. I don't know why but ozone's assistant likes a bright sound overall.
In other words a robot destroyed there whole 30 year mastering career.....
I think the Ozone stuff is really decent but I prefer the 100,- master. It's way more tight, a little cleaner, that little voice line doesn't jump at you as much as with the ozone one.
$100 master was solid, did you see the very very end where I tone-matched the $100 master with Ozone? Just really shows what it can do!
@@matnetik He ignored that and went straight to hearing it be 100$ he thinks since it cost more it was automatically better.
I like the Ozone. I'm not sure if I'm fooled by the loudness or the brightness. Ear training is a thing
They're all too bright, and there's lost mid-range definition, but the Ozone mix is my favorite. I use Ozone 10 with my mastering preset stored on every mix. Mixing will drive you insane if you're a perfectionist, and have OCD, lol. It comes down to the song, and how the recorded performance is, first and foremost!
i love this comment so much
Guys, Ozone is a great option for saving money, it deliverers a good quality but, if you're talking professional level, ozone master is pretty trash. The 100 dollar master sounds amazing, high tier work. Mastering isn't just volume, keep that in minda
Great video. Thanks!
Very nice comparison. A couple of thoughts though.... Would be great to use some other type of music too to get a good feel for it (understand the cost is becoming am issue for buying double). And I also don't know if RUclips really gives the real audio output of what it sounds like in your studio. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
Plot twist, the £100 mastering engineer used Ozone 9 😅
😂😂
Ha ha ha...you sir just won the internet!
amazing video, sold me to ozone
Great video, thank you!
$100 master is the best, no question.
The Ozone one seems a little more middy than all the others. I would take that down a notch, but definitely worth the money for infinite free masters.
Interesting how this is so subjective as some prefer the master using OZONE 10 than done via FIVERR.
That’s mastering for ya! Haha
Killer mix, man! eventhough I more into rock and metal 👌
Appreciate you! Thanks for watching
IMO $100 is the best by far > $50 comes close > $15 was okayish, not the best but pretty decent > ozone - the worst one, doesn't sound pleasant at all. The AI on this thing is pretty bad actually, it can barely even guess the right genre, I'm not even saying about the rest
Ozone 10 in verse 2 was a mess for me... The guy that mastered for $100 seems to know very well how to do the job, it seems that he used multiband processing (everything seems to be in its place) and the good use of compressors also because when it comes soft or hard transients in the track, the song doesn't get ruined. Mastering is about listening to the song and analize it so you can think what you can add to it (or clean) to make it sound better (and remember that one reference track is important). Mastering is not simply make it sound louder.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown! Did you watch the end where I tone matched the $100 master on Ozone? Pretty impressive! This is definitely more of a plug-in breakdown than a detailed how to master video but I do believe ozone is extremely powerful and can make an equivalent master, cheers!
@@matnetik Yeah! That was really impressive! the strong point of iZotope is their AI technology, (that's the reason I mentioned the reference track!). Still... I think you should do some manual adjustments for less distortion. I think will go for Komplete 14 Standard, so Ozone Standard is included... and after that I will upgrade maybe to Advance version. I think Ozone advance is still worth the money! You can imagine how expensive can be to pay $100 for each of your songs!!!
Oh yeah couldn't agree more! Good point on the reference track as well, honestly that's one of the most useful tools in the plugin! Thanks for watching and commenting, pretty dope that K14 includes it now as well
Just because it's 100$ sir doesn't mean its good more money doesn't mean better quality.
WoW the ozone master blows the others away
wow, is it me or there's been a considerable improvement of the AI from ozone 9? this is crazy!
Definitely still has some room for improvement but it’s far better than 9!
All the plug-ins and engineers of the world can't make music out of that chaos of midi notes. It is not a music
First of all. OZONE 10- Its NOT an auto-master. And it never was. Ozone listens to 5 seconds of an audio file, and vomits up some modules. Its not nor was it ever intended to be an "auto master". Its an assistant to get mastering started. Thats it.
Ozone , 50, 100, 15, but I think the 50 dollar master was the closest to the computer. He might have had to increase volume and the with of the middle & side. The fifty's dollar guy was closet to the ozone..volume aside.
Thank you! ($50 guy here ☝️)
u need to lower the ozone volume!! to match the oters!!
Ozone, through the YT compression algy, seams to have more air around it.
I honestly think this is a great way to describe it!
Ozone 10 is a definite improvement as on ozone 9 i always had to keep widening the high end
I think I can hear aliasing in the bells in Ozone master, but maybe it's just the overall brightness on the Zone master. Is there an oversampling option in Ozone? By the way, I like the most expensive one the most.
You can use oversampling on all plugins in the chain in Reaper (various multipliers) and in Cakewalk (x2 for whole project)
@@---pp7tq I know but i don`t use Reaper, but you can also oversample every plugin in every DAW using DDMF Metaplugin. But i doesn`t matter, every plugin that provides distortion, yes even compression does, should have an oversampling option these days.
Great shootout! Ozone really sounded better, cool!
Your Ozone master is sounding louder because you picked the Dj mode... But it doesnt sounds better... In any case the Ozone is an AMAZING and mindblowing tool, still im a bit afraid that all master will sound the same if people starts using it over and over...
Oscar´s version is most ballanced to my ear. But what do I know, from yt compression :D
AWESOME! thank you for this video! I just subscribed
Appreciate you!
Ozone 10 the best for mastering 🎉🎉
I think the Ozone sounded better after the tone adjustment, but the initial master sounded very... artificial (sorry if that's too on the nose). The 100$ master sounded organic, like it was done with care and understanding. Ozone is definitely super cool, and it obviously gives you the tools to sculpt the mastering after it does its automatic thing, but I don't think there's a substitute (for now) for the human touch.
Cool idea!
In the end its taste and musicality that counts. And thats very individually.
It depends on your soundsystem too.
One master might have strenghts on a 20 bucks bluetooth, another on your high class 2000 bucks stereo, onother on the headphones, in-ear, 5.1 with dub, without sub....
With mastering you can get lost in the details.
Very lost...
So letting others get mad on the mix can be worth money.
If you have no spare money, ozone gives you mastering in a good quality.
You do not have even that money for ozone, start with the hornet master tool.
master_me is not bad completely free automatic and adjustable mastering chain, while Hornet is 20 bucks - but still noticeably cheaper than RX10 Advanced.
Your master with ozone is going louder around 3 dB, so it fool the comparaison with the other masters.
i think the third one was the clenaset and it sounded the best to my eears ... ozone is ok but its not as good as the 100 dolar .... i think 3rd one than 2one and then1st one ozone is last for me ..
the last minute is awesome :D :D
I'm so happy someone stuck around for it hahaha thanks!
100USD one sounds wider. Maybe cause its (too?) loud...the ozone makes feel like your ears would get much faster tired. of course best would be to level match and listen but i prefer the 100USD one. Though it is incredible to get a that good result that fast with Ozone...for sync licensing, which i do also....a great way, still i will stick with wavelab 11 and my plugins. You get to know your tracks also much better when you manually master.
Wow FUN vid... Truly Felt like I was right there w you... mouth open, double taking stares as ozone kinda put the shades on and slow dropped the mic on all of us. Way to let a grass roots real world test do the talking....
Yo appreciate you!
Ozone i think just wins it for me. 😊..but the 100$ guy was good. Great job all
Ozone 10 it is! Saves so much money!!
Maybe not now but in the near future... I fear for mastering engineers! I think they will be the first ones to get replaced by ai
Unless they own it themselves and makes their job easier
@@ousmaaan1677 true lol
Worst to best 15 - Ozone - 50 -100 Ozone whilst loud is far too crushed. ruined all the punch. However I don't think the 100 is woth 100 it's not quite loud enough. 100 is steep for Mastering
Not sure where to place the Stabilizer in the chain. Most of the time I have it towards the end pretty much post every module just before the Imager and Maximizer. But still not sure that's the best place.
I think that's a solid place for it, since it's doing micro dynamic changes, it should definitely be post compressor, eq and anything that's make big changes! You should always try using the master assist on a track and see where it places it!
@@matnetik The Master Asst places it early in the chain right after the EQ so that threw me off. I would think that after you EQ and use the Impact and/or Vintage Tape and Exciter etc you'd want the Stabilizer to smooth things out and shape the audio post all the modules but who knows.