I expect (and hope) that you get this a lot, but it is a felony how underrated this channel is. It is rare to see a reaction that adds funny and interesting commentary like this!
I think an overlooked fact is that without FTL communication, controlling empires at this scale would be basically impossible due to delay in comminication.
It's like how before the telegram was invented, the federal government had barely any control over the states because of how long news took to travel. It could take over 6 months for news to travel across the country that the president got assassinated. It's wild to imagine. It makes sense why the U.S. became so separated from Britain, given news would have taken even longer. It's interesting to wonder how things would have been different if the telegram had already existed when the U.S. was first settled by the British. Maybe we would still be a part of Britain.
One of 2 options, either earth is a galactic reality show ridiculed by all, or we're a full on no-go zone quarantined off out of fear of spreading out our spergness
As someone who's played GalCivsIII, Stellaris, and Spore. Maintaining and expanding a galactic empire is a pain the bum. There's lots of resource gathering to be done, ship maintenance, colony administration and it is a race to procure all the resource hotspots to afford everything and procure good trading. Top that with all the tech research to terraform and FTL and immigration plans to new planets, and also keep stellar bases and bastions to defend against enemy empires. Space expansion is serious business while you are also 'sneakily' advancing a primitive civilization from bronze age to final frontier stage, you have to consider to either hand over the system to them or keep them under your jurisdiction either as a vassal faction or under the blanket of your flag.
It's not really a pain. If you play Stellaris AS THE FIRST alien (by turning off all other empires), it's VERY easy. No one else can get a foothold, no one else can harm you, and you just expand to everywhere. That's what the premise of grabby aliens entails, not the usual 'everyone pops up at the same time' mechanic in Stellaris to make things fair. Real life very likely isn't like that. This is why I believe we are first. Otherwise, we'd be in the borders of some alien species, and likely would never have evolved to this stage due to it. Because even if expanding isn't 'easy', a few million years is enough time for any alien species (or likely AI!) to cover the galaxy.
@@cortster12at the beginning of a game you don't know where they are right away! Many years (not sure how many years, haven't played for a while!) goes by before you have travelled far enough to find em! We, IRL "just" got to the space age but not yet capable of space colonization! (Like when the game basically starts in Stellaris!)
@mxb2432 You misunderstand. We're talking a millions of years' head start. We wouldn't have to find them: they would've already been here, and we couldn't evolve if we don’t exist. We literally would never have the chance to become space fairing if any species in the galaxy was space fairing before us by even a few hundred thousand years, and given the age of the galaxy, odds are VERY low any species just popped into existence within a few tens of thousands of years of us, which is the only reason we wouldn't encounter them. Basically, us being first is the simplest explaination.
Hey Tyler, I have a question for you that I was hoping you could answer. It’s regarding the pictures you use for your thumbnail. Did you take a bunch of pictures of yourself at work one day, or do you regularly take pictures of yourself with a bunch of different expressions? I recently stumbles across your channel and I can’t figure out which is more likely, I’m guessing you took a bunch one day
We’re advanced enough that if someone was looking, they would have seen us long ago. There has been life here for billions of years. Makes me think we’re the first.
If you are an American, you are part of an alien empire. Aliens called Israelis have been in control of all your institutions and driving your foreign policies for decades.
Who's to say all these galaxies aren't just snow globes with totally separate experiments in them being created and manipulated by fifth dimensional beings we simply can't physically move in a way to reach, like we're stuck on a sheet of paper compared to them.
I think Marble Balls in Men In Black 1 at the end credit scene puts the idea of a Snow Globe Reality into a much greater picture. When the alien placed our Marble Reality onto a great Marble Machine with other Marble Realities.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 I guess. I was picturing them spaced out and us being trapped inside, unable to move closer to the other ones, and they would be all right there together that way. Less desolate, but still kinda crazy to think about.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 More like you're in toy story at the yard sale, and you're in one snow globe, and you're watching another snow globe get bought up, but you can't leave your snow globe. Edit: or that was closer to the atmosphere I had in mind, but in something of a movie scene. More like we're stuck with our face pressed up against the glass, watching from inside, but unable to ever get out.
One good analogy for why we haven't found alien civilizations yet is that the universe is so vast and diverse that we've only probed a tiny fraction of it, like taking a glass of water from the ocean. Because there are no fish in it, we can't make any assumptions about the existence or absence of fish, or from small, unintelligent fish colonies to highly developed fish empires. Today, all these assumptions are just thought experiments. We really don't know and can't know anything about intelligent life in the universe until we have the enormous luck to find one with our limited scientific instruments. And all that is true vice versa.
The isolated island theory is the one I think is most likely. That "Ancient Aliens" show is a hoot. The basic concept isn't that absurd to me, but those guys really know how to break out the Planters and crank the nut knob up to eleven. I was reading this article last night about how they may have detected a type of particle called "glue balls" for the first time. It was pretty neat, and it finally explained the concept of "color" in a way that made it so much less abstract than other readings were making it out to be.
My grandfather remarked, the advancement of aviation and manned spaceflight was due to the improvement of power plants (engines) and airframe design. Could a similar analogy be applicable for theoretical physics? While generalizations of the standard model allowed insight, the one equation to 'rule them all 'or set of ultimate equations has failed. Possibly, the speed of light (c) is a more than physical constraint of the known universe, but a theoretical limit of modern theory to provide an accurate description of it. Perhaps novel high-order mathematics will be instructive, its difficult to recognize brilliant theory from conjecture when processes are beyond our perception. Traveling past the speed of light appears a logical contradiction, however what if light isn't involved? As new technology solves old problems, new problems invariable surface in it's wake. Speed is essential for fragile biological organisms to endure the hazards of deep space. As with the advancement of airpower, the future exploration, development and containment of new forms of energy, and the systems to harness it - will unlock the heavens above and earth below.
It's nice to fantasize about tech always growing exponentially, but at some point, we may have simply reached a full understanding of something and created the best tech possible. Like what if our space faring tech is near perfect already? That would make interstellar empires basically impossible.
What if eath is a nature preservation project? Let the society residing on thins rock run it's course unaltered and observe the progression of civilization, the nature and the combination, what direction does it lead to when it's left to its vices?
@National Aeronautics and Space Administration,@SpaceX. Asked about the assignment to you, how does it go? Did you make the plan to have a space exploration fleet?
That's the point. For civilization, it's a long time, meaning any aliens that lasted that long would have covered the galaxy already. And we wouldn't likely be here as a result.
I wonder if there's any microorganisms that could help us colonize mars. I feel like putting some sort of single celled organism that doesn't need oxygen and is resistant to radiation could thrive on mars.
Messages before 1890s didn't take long to get anywhere. HRE took only 15 days from Berlin to Vienna. London to Boston was 21 days. Mongols got news from east to Rus in 18 days. 😂
I wouldn't trust Kurtz's estimates on the timeframe of terraforming mars and venus, or really any of their videos on how some crazy space technology might be possible. They generally only show best case scenerios that inspire people to think of what could be possible, and worst case scenerios that are dramatic and scary. The more mundane and realistic issues that will probably make these things impossible, unlikely, or only possible extremely far in the future aren't discussed. I do enjoy these videos, it's just that they shouldn't be seen as an accurate representation of how long something might take or whether a technology is possible. They are more just for fun and to imagine what it would look like if these things were possible and what the implications of that would be. That's just my take on it, though.
They never take account of real humans. 1. We are desperately searching for extension to lifespan by 2100 we more likely will live to be 120 with ease. 2. We will hit point of limited oil and will need to rapidly replace fuels and switch to high density sources. 3. Even if we nuked ourselves enough knowledge is preserved in 30 separate vaults to Jumpstart us back in less than 50 years.
9:09 or, for the pessimistic among us, the entire galaxy is a giant tomb for two warring progenitor races, and we are the next wave of life, much like the dinosaurs making way for mammals.
i mean nowadays it's hard to plan for 50 years, so planning for over millions of years could be feasible, but having people in control chose to keep it going for so long when we don't even know if we'll still be a thing might be near impossible, why would people chose space exploration over things that are of bigger importance here on earth or in the solar system. if we all lived for millions of years yeah that would be feasible for sure but i don't think we could keep this kind of project going for so long
Imagine you found a promising candidate for habitation , but some alien civilization terraforms it for their own needs before you can colonize it. And rendered it useless for your purposes.
I see it happening if we find a region of space that we would like to explore. Given that the distance is huge between us and the region, we would want to build a base there. It is similar to the US having bases in Japan to make it easier to attack Chinese assets in the event of a war.
To me, the timescale is the real problem. The fastest human made object would take 3,500 years each direction, 7,000 years total to reach the nearest star and return and it's a flare star so it's not a good candidate. The oldest human writing is 5,400 years old. No culture has ever lasted even close to that long and we don't really have any indication that our current culture has "solved" that problem. Nor do any of the hypothetical ways to reach nearby stars faster work. All the ideas about traveling at some significant fraction of c require propulsion for the entire trip (half accelerating, half decelerating) and no technology we know of, not even ion drive, can make that work theoretically with the rocket equation. When you add in life support and water shielding systems, we can't even make slower propulsion work theoretically with the rocket equation. Just getting there at all, let alone faster than thousands of years, requires optimism for a new breakthrough. This lack of a new breakthrough is what they meant by space being "hard". Ultimately, if nobody can solve some of the currently impossible engineering challenges, every habitable world is going to be forever alone. I used to be optimistic that someone clever would work out how to make Alcubierre's drive system work without exotic matter - but now that they have, I've looked at it more closely and it's not a faster than light drive because the control mechanisms would have to break causality to move the area of contracting spacetime faster than light.
The current countries will surely not last for 1000 years. When the probe came back there would be no United States of America, or any other of the current nations. But still humans would be around and might be able to pick it up without destroying them. We just have to make sure any subsequent society will know about it and have an interest on it.
If aliens do exist I have come up with 2 reasons they are not blatantly in our sight. One is the Earth could be a sort of 'we are productive' kind of show that they go around kind of setting up worlds to claim they are helping the Universe. 2nd idea is it is a derogatory joke, or aquarium.
Why not assume the aliens are just like us (meaning, don't have the capability for finding other civilizations), hence they don't know we exist. And if they do, they might not have the tech to come here or send a robot.
Please also react to some biology related video of theirs ik that's not your expertise and you cant validate any of the information but i am pretty sure they are pretty accurate (they are "liar" and will keep on "lying" as we already established). they are pretty interesting, if you get some time please look into them
It is not a problem that it got nothing to do with nuclear. ASpecutlating about aluen eciilizations also has got nothing to do with uclear, and yet he is here ruminating about it.
Something I think about is how some people think humanity was genetically engineered and placed on earth, for one reason or another, but I wonder if intelligent life reaches our point and realizes it's not economically or even possible resource wise to send current versions of your life form to new planets, but that it is possible to send your genetic material like a seed to hopefully grow into new kinds of intelligent life evolved on that planet.
I expect (and hope) that you get this a lot, but it is a felony how underrated this channel is. It is rare to see a reaction that adds funny and interesting commentary like this!
I think an overlooked fact is that without FTL communication, controlling empires at this scale would be basically impossible due to delay in comminication.
It's like how before the telegram was invented, the federal government had barely any control over the states because of how long news took to travel. It could take over 6 months for news to travel across the country that the president got assassinated. It's wild to imagine. It makes sense why the U.S. became so separated from Britain, given news would have taken even longer. It's interesting to wonder how things would have been different if the telegram had already existed when the U.S. was first settled by the British. Maybe we would still be a part of Britain.
Quantum tunneling. We already have cross system communicstion, SSD and USB use quantum tunneling.
@@NMgardening505most intelligent new mexican
One of 2 options, either earth is a galactic reality show ridiculed by all, or we're a full on no-go zone quarantined off out of fear of spreading out our spergness
I would like to infect the known universe with my spergness
As someone who's played GalCivsIII, Stellaris, and Spore. Maintaining and expanding a galactic empire is a pain the bum.
There's lots of resource gathering to be done, ship maintenance, colony administration and it is a race to procure all the resource hotspots to afford everything and procure good trading. Top that with all the tech research to terraform and FTL and immigration plans to new planets, and also keep stellar bases and bastions to defend against enemy empires. Space expansion is serious business while you are also 'sneakily' advancing a primitive civilization from bronze age to final frontier stage, you have to consider to either hand over the system to them or keep them under your jurisdiction either as a vassal faction or under the blanket of your flag.
Also as a sad fact, I once encountered the Sol system and found earth to be a radioactive graveyard where the only surviving species were cockroaches.
It's not really a pain. If you play Stellaris AS THE FIRST alien (by turning off all other empires), it's VERY easy. No one else can get a foothold, no one else can harm you, and you just expand to everywhere. That's what the premise of grabby aliens entails, not the usual 'everyone pops up at the same time' mechanic in Stellaris to make things fair. Real life very likely isn't like that.
This is why I believe we are first. Otherwise, we'd be in the borders of some alien species, and likely would never have evolved to this stage due to it. Because even if expanding isn't 'easy', a few million years is enough time for any alien species (or likely AI!) to cover the galaxy.
@@LaffuBread705one time a cockroach became the emperor of the galaxy under my flag
@@cortster12at the beginning of a game you don't know where they are right away! Many years (not sure how many years, haven't played for a while!) goes by before you have travelled far enough to find em!
We, IRL "just" got to the space age but not yet capable of space colonization! (Like when the game basically starts in Stellaris!)
@mxb2432
You misunderstand. We're talking a millions of years' head start. We wouldn't have to find them: they would've already been here, and we couldn't evolve if we don’t exist. We literally would never have the chance to become space fairing if any species in the galaxy was space fairing before us by even a few hundred thousand years, and given the age of the galaxy, odds are VERY low any species just popped into existence within a few tens of thousands of years of us, which is the only reason we wouldn't encounter them.
Basically, us being first is the simplest explaination.
Thx for the content, king
Hey Tyler, I have a question for you that I was hoping you could answer. It’s regarding the pictures you use for your thumbnail. Did you take a bunch of pictures of yourself at work one day, or do you regularly take pictures of yourself with a bunch of different expressions? I recently stumbles across your channel and I can’t figure out which is more likely, I’m guessing you took a bunch one day
Where did you get your degree? And also when can we get "with a little more than 11 years of experience"
NICE! Idk who noticed, but yer boy just hit 100k subs! Congrats Tyler!
That has to be today, right? Maybe yesterday? Doubtful...
Glad I could be here for the milestone either way.
Maybe naming the Home Planet "Dirt" is not the best way of attracting potential visitors from elsewhere?
worked for rango.
I mean, it's the most abundant thing around.
If we evolved in the sea, we might call this planet "Sludge" instead.
We’re advanced enough that if someone was looking, they would have seen us long ago. There has been life here for billions of years. Makes me think we’re the first.
amazing vid like always
Are We Part of an Alien Empire? There's a fair chance. I've been to LA.
If you are an American, you are part of an alien empire. Aliens called Israelis have been in control of all your institutions and driving your foreign policies for decades.
Who's to say all these galaxies aren't just snow globes with totally separate experiments in them being created and manipulated by fifth dimensional beings we simply can't physically move in a way to reach, like we're stuck on a sheet of paper compared to them.
I think Marble Balls in Men In Black 1 at the end credit scene puts the idea of a Snow Globe Reality into a much greater picture. When the alien placed our Marble Reality onto a great Marble Machine with other Marble Realities.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 I guess. I was picturing them spaced out and us being trapped inside, unable to move closer to the other ones, and they would be all right there together that way. Less desolate, but still kinda crazy to think about.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 More like you're in toy story at the yard sale, and you're in one snow globe, and you're watching another snow globe get bought up, but you can't leave your snow globe.
Edit: or that was closer to the atmosphere I had in mind, but in something of a movie scene.
More like we're stuck with our face pressed up against the glass, watching from inside, but unable to ever get out.
One good analogy for why we haven't found alien civilizations yet is that the universe is so vast and diverse that we've only probed a tiny fraction of it, like taking a glass of water from the ocean. Because there are no fish in it, we can't make any assumptions about the existence or absence of fish, or from small, unintelligent fish colonies to highly developed fish empires. Today, all these assumptions are just thought experiments. We really don't know and can't know anything about intelligent life in the universe until we have the enormous luck to find one with our limited scientific instruments. And all that is true vice versa.
The isolated island theory is the one I think is most likely. That "Ancient Aliens" show is a hoot. The basic concept isn't that absurd to me, but those guys really know how to break out the Planters and crank the nut knob up to eleven.
I was reading this article last night about how they may have detected a type of particle called "glue balls" for the first time. It was pretty neat, and it finally explained the concept of "color" in a way that made it so much less abstract than other readings were making it out to be.
Veritasium's vid on the blue led is really great, hope you'd react to it
9:10 Yep! We likely are first, as it likely IS easy. Especially once self-replication technologies are invented.
Ad astra by the echo project, and the idea of the galaxius
What I want to know is.....What is and Where can I get the shirt you have?(I like the pattern that I can see on the shoulder of it)
7:55 there’s a book about that. It’s called far Centaurus
Even if we are, they wouldn't let us know... yet.
My grandfather remarked, the advancement of aviation and manned spaceflight was due to the improvement of power plants (engines) and airframe design. Could a similar analogy be applicable for theoretical physics? While generalizations of the standard model allowed insight, the one equation to 'rule them all 'or set of ultimate equations has failed. Possibly, the speed of light (c) is a more than physical constraint of the known universe, but a theoretical limit of modern theory to provide an accurate description of it.
Perhaps novel high-order mathematics will be instructive, its difficult to recognize brilliant theory from conjecture when processes are beyond our perception. Traveling past the speed of light appears a logical contradiction, however what if light isn't involved? As new technology solves old problems, new problems invariable surface in it's wake. Speed is essential for fragile biological organisms to endure the hazards of deep space. As with the advancement of airpower, the future exploration, development and containment of new forms of energy, and the systems to harness it - will unlock the heavens above and earth below.
It's nice to fantasize about tech always growing exponentially, but at some point, we may have simply reached a full understanding of something and created the best tech possible. Like what if our space faring tech is near perfect already? That would make interstellar empires basically impossible.
Can you review the map Nuke from cs2 I’m just curious about how accurate it is
I doubt that the world economy and universal co-operation would ever be enough for such an effort.
What if eath is a nature preservation project? Let the society residing on thins rock run it's course unaltered and observe the progression of civilization, the nature and the combination, what direction does it lead to when it's left to its vices?
@National Aeronautics and Space Administration,@SpaceX. Asked about the assignment to you, how does it go? Did you make the plan to have a space exploration fleet?
I would say million years is very much a lot for life and civilization.
That's the point. For civilization, it's a long time, meaning any aliens that lasted that long would have covered the galaxy already. And we wouldn't likely be here as a result.
@T folse nuclear I think Kurzgesart's newest video is a variation of: "the rare Earth hypothesis" what do you think about it? 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Or maybe we are just wrong, there are creatures live in the radioactive environment.
We are the intergalactic ghetto. Aliens roll their windows up when they fly by 😂
I wonder if there's any microorganisms that could help us colonize mars. I feel like putting some sort of single celled organism that doesn't need oxygen and is resistant to radiation could thrive on mars.
9:10-Hopefully not tho,and we won't end up as a galactic sentient shapeshifting disease.
You should react to a video about orion nuclear propulsion
Messages before 1890s didn't take long to get anywhere.
HRE took only 15 days from Berlin to Vienna.
London to Boston was 21 days.
Mongols got news from east to Rus in 18 days. 😂
I wouldn't trust Kurtz's estimates on the timeframe of terraforming mars and venus, or really any of their videos on how some crazy space technology might be possible. They generally only show best case scenerios that inspire people to think of what could be possible, and worst case scenerios that are dramatic and scary. The more mundane and realistic issues that will probably make these things impossible, unlikely, or only possible extremely far in the future aren't discussed. I do enjoy these videos, it's just that they shouldn't be seen as an accurate representation of how long something might take or whether a technology is possible. They are more just for fun and to imagine what it would look like if these things were possible and what the implications of that would be. That's just my take on it, though.
They never take account of real humans.
1. We are desperately searching for extension to lifespan by 2100 we more likely will live to be 120 with ease.
2. We will hit point of limited oil and will need to rapidly replace fuels and switch to high density sources.
3. Even if we nuked ourselves enough knowledge is preserved in 30 separate vaults to Jumpstart us back in less than 50 years.
9:09 or, for the pessimistic among us, the entire galaxy is a giant tomb for two warring progenitor races, and we are the next wave of life, much like the dinosaurs making way for mammals.
among us 😂
On Mars, couldn't you just go out at night? Or can some of the alpha particles still get you?
Hey, love the channel. Would love to see a video about CANDU reactor.
i mean nowadays it's hard to plan for 50 years, so planning for over millions of years could be feasible, but having people in control chose to keep it going for so long when we don't even know if we'll still be a thing might be near impossible, why would people chose space exploration over things that are of bigger importance here on earth or in the solar system. if we all lived for millions of years yeah that would be feasible for sure but i don't think we could keep this kind of project going for so long
Hey man I have a theory about the pyramids, I'd love for you to take a look at it
Alien civ: yeah this is my planetary time share planet.. I believe the people on it call it Earth.
can u React to (smoking is Awesome - Kurzgesagt)?
Imagine you found a promising candidate for habitation , but some alien civilization terraforms it for their own needs before you can colonize it. And rendered it useless for your purposes.
I see it happening if we find a region of space that we would like to explore. Given that the distance is huge between us and the region, we would want to build a base there. It is similar to the US having bases in Japan to make it easier to attack Chinese assets in the event of a war.
To me, the timescale is the real problem. The fastest human made object would take 3,500 years each direction, 7,000 years total to reach the nearest star and return and it's a flare star so it's not a good candidate. The oldest human writing is 5,400 years old. No culture has ever lasted even close to that long and we don't really have any indication that our current culture has "solved" that problem. Nor do any of the hypothetical ways to reach nearby stars faster work. All the ideas about traveling at some significant fraction of c require propulsion for the entire trip (half accelerating, half decelerating) and no technology we know of, not even ion drive, can make that work theoretically with the rocket equation. When you add in life support and water shielding systems, we can't even make slower propulsion work theoretically with the rocket equation. Just getting there at all, let alone faster than thousands of years, requires optimism for a new breakthrough. This lack of a new breakthrough is what they meant by space being "hard".
Ultimately, if nobody can solve some of the currently impossible engineering challenges, every habitable world is going to be forever alone. I used to be optimistic that someone clever would work out how to make Alcubierre's drive system work without exotic matter - but now that they have, I've looked at it more closely and it's not a faster than light drive because the control mechanisms would have to break causality to move the area of contracting spacetime faster than light.
The current countries will surely not last for 1000 years. When the probe came back there would be no United States of America, or any other of the current nations. But still humans would be around and might be able to pick it up without destroying them. We just have to make sure any subsequent society will know about it and have an interest on it.
electroboom malding skibidi toilet haha ahh beat goofy 🚽🤓🤓🤓
If aliens do exist I have come up with 2 reasons they are not blatantly in our sight. One is the Earth could be a sort of 'we are productive' kind of show that they go around kind of setting up worlds to claim they are helping the Universe. 2nd idea is it is a derogatory joke, or aquarium.
Why not assume the aliens are just like us (meaning, don't have the capability for finding other civilizations), hence they don't know we exist. And if they do, they might not have the tech to come here or send a robot.
Please also react to some biology related video of theirs ik that's not your expertise and you cant validate any of the information but i am pretty sure they are pretty accurate (they are "liar" and will keep on "lying" as we already established). they are pretty interesting, if you get some time please look into them
I know that has nothing to do with nuclear but you have to react to starship spacex
It is not a problem that it got nothing to do with nuclear. ASpecutlating about aluen eciilizations also has got nothing to do with uclear, and yet he is here ruminating about it.
Lol can you play stellaris
Something I think about is how some people think humanity was genetically engineered and placed on earth, for one reason or another, but I wonder if intelligent life reaches our point and realizes it's not economically or even possible resource wise to send current versions of your life form to new planets, but that it is possible to send your genetic material like a seed to hopefully grow into new kinds of intelligent life evolved on that planet.
Just like the Ursula K Le Guin sci-fi universe .
Huh, i suppose there is aliens everywhere. Let me go talk to the one cleaning my bathroom
These guys will do anything to not accept god 💀
what do you mean?
This is theorizing ffs. Its impossible to prove God exists anyways
Actually its not even a theory. This is speculating