you can literally see his finger skimming the side of the key, and pressing it. sayodevice rapid trigger goes to like 0.05 breathing too much is enough, you can see the sayodevice registering a click
yea his finger slipping off would make the switch go upward registering as a release and as his knuckle hit the side of the keycap it couldve registered as another input
Rate changes will probably make PP farming less braindead since a wider variety of maps will be farmable instead of everyone in certain skill ranges having the exact same DT maps
If we’re being honest mfs are just gonna rate change the same set of maps and to a certain bpm. I honestly prefer how it is now bc ur incentivised to actually look for different maps.
The registered input is fairly common if you have a keypad that moves around easily and high RT settings, and you can clearly see that there is a slight input and since he used rt, it registers as one
honestly I would not be surprised if around 20 of the top 100 osu players are cheaters. when rate change gets ranked I'm quitting stable or at least I will stop playing as much on stable. there are 43 people with 20kpp. I remember when 20kpp was the barrier of entry to the top 5 but its this quickly at top 43 with aim slop.
I remember when whitecat was the first one to hit 20kpp, the barrier to reach number 1 back in 2020 to now there being 43 players on par with prime whitecat era in terms of pp is crazy
yea, rate changes being ranked will break a lot of stuff, most notably all perma #1 spots will be sniped, some impressive fl scores will be sniped. is more convenient pp farming more prefered than uniqueness of some plays?
I think rate change ranked will be amazing, I've been playing maps I love sped up for years and really like the leaderboards for it on lazer, but gotta be careful with implementation. I'd be happy to see some sort of scaling so its less abuseable?
W toro from my pov i can see the keypad even went down as if he tapped normally its just at a different time which could in the play count a 300 as a 100 as it was timed a lil late on the "tap" but even the 2nd liveplay wasn't needed but helped clear his name.
"Good player don't cheat to get good scores, they cheat to get good scores faster" Still think that Cloutiful should have been banned for longer since Plasma did warn him that DKS was bannable when he showed Cloutiful the trick, but he used it to cheat anyway. I guess welcome back?
i swear people forget cloutiful was a really good AIM player back before he started cheating, he doesn't need speed in an aim meta which was the reason why he cheated, he wasn't as good speed as aim im assuming from the obvious reasons of him cheating.
Something that I don't get understand: WhiteCat got banned more than 1 year for account boosting right (iirc) he didn't cheat if i remember correct or used something illegal Cloutiful guy did cheat and even try to hide everything he can how is he unbanned this early?
The explanation is that 1. whitecat shouldn't have been banned for so long, and 2. when it's your first ban on osu!, you're restricted for 6 months (or something like that). Technically, cloutiful already completed the punishment. But yes, I agree that it's ridiculous to unban someone who cheated to that extend so early. Cloutiful shouldn't be punished like any other cheater.
to be fair, he was banned for something that wasn't really classified as cheating until people noticed he was doing and decided it was, so by technicality he didn't do anything wrong, but he technically also did his ban time, and to extend that time would mean to extend the time for everyone else as well
@@idk-jc5fs Nah he should be treated as any other cheater. The extent he cheated to is just his rank which imo should not be treated as a factor for strictly an osu account unban. The actions related to his impact on osu as a cheater is community stuff and it's cloutiful's job to win back favour within the community whether he is banned or unbanned. osu support shouldn't meddle in the community especially when determining unbans as an account is just a platform to submit scores. It's not like peppy issued an order to forgive cloutiful. His cheating was punished by a ban and he served out his ban; his negative impact on the community was punished by public disdain which he is still trying to mend.
if people complain about the rate changes being ranked then they forget that that's how things are supposed to be in the first place. Why do people program themselves to think that only a specific number of people should be able to get 1k+ pp and that the pp record shouldn't be more than 2k. Osu is always changing and there are no limits to the pp ceiling. Making pp more accessible to people should have been there since day one and will never be a bad thing. Many people can do 1.2 or 1.3 on maps instead of 1.5 and I'm sure we'll see more unique play and players finally able to get pp from their playstyles.
why does nobody looking into another r/osureport stating he‘s using aim assist or maybe even replay editor on some of his scores. And also he is seem very suspicious on his profile setting crazy scores such as nfdthr B rank on sidetracked day , and also the fact that none of his "spaced stream" scores in his top plays can be downloaded as replays. The only thing he showed in his recent liveplay is vertex gamma 95 play, which is kind of easy concidering his skill on other maps. And one funny fact - almost immediately after his 95 play on gamma, he sets 95 fc on 1.22x version of vertex delta (which is 330bpm). I am not sure if he’s legit or not, but I think this guy should be looked into much further than just analyzing his inputs on liveplay
Its because Cloutiful has always been established as an aim player on par with Snowy, Mahood and Badeu. It was only suspicious when he started playing speed
im a bit confused, why did people see a keypad move like 2cm and then immediately say "yep, that's enough evidence to accuse someone of cheating." I don't see the correlation between a keypad moving slightly and being physically unable to register an input?
I completely forgot about that guy tbh. I think it's dumb for him to be unbanned so early. Then again I never really liked him so my opinion may be biased because of this idk.
I'm 150k because I almost exclusively play custom dt and I have several 250pp+ plays with rate change bro I'm gonna reach 5 digit when this rework releases I wanna stay 6 digit don't take it away from me
It's called an SS. Cuz, yknow, the rank. Why are we calling that a perfect FC? "Perfect FC" is better suited for FCing with no dropped ends, not 100% acc.
you can literally see his finger skimming the side of the key, and pressing it. sayodevice rapid trigger goes to like 0.05 breathing too much is enough, you can see the sayodevice registering a click
yea his finger slipping off would make the switch go upward registering as a release and as his knuckle hit the side of the keycap it couldve registered as another input
It’s honestly impressive that Cloutiful hasn’t had a perfect fc
no it just show how rediculous and abusable csr really is
@@juliusnordkild611 I mean, they are playing 7* maps with DTHR, it's obvious a choke will give that much. I think speedaim is just too overweighted.
@@juliusnordkild611 womp womp if it was this abusable just go and get pp
He probably just played 10 star farm maps
@@juliusnordkild611 wait, what? I’m saying Cloutuful never fully followed a slider. Like, they always drop slider ends
Rate changes will probably make PP farming less braindead since a wider variety of maps will be farmable instead of everyone in certain skill ranges having the exact same DT maps
If we’re being honest mfs are just gonna rate change the same set of maps and to a certain bpm. I honestly prefer how it is now bc ur incentivised to actually look for different maps.
@@apple20i think a bigger choice of maps to farm is always nice
Guinea pig bridge 2x speed 😭
The registered input is fairly common if you have a keypad that moves around easily and high RT settings, and you can clearly see that there is a slight input and since he used rt, it registers as one
Imagine if ppy got a low taper fadee
honestly I would not be surprised if around 20 of the top 100 osu players are cheaters.
when rate change gets ranked I'm quitting stable or at least I will stop playing as much on stable.
there are 43 people with 20kpp. I remember when 20kpp was the barrier of entry to the top 5 but its this quickly at top 43 with aim slop.
Day 1593 of waiting on ranked 1.2x DT so I don't need cat reflexes to read ar 10.6
I remember when whitecat was the first one to hit 20kpp, the barrier to reach number 1 back in 2020 to now there being 43 players on par with prime whitecat era in terms of pp is crazy
i doubt theres 20 cheaters in the top 100
yea, rate changes being ranked will break a lot of stuff, most notably all perma #1 spots will be sniped, some impressive fl scores will be sniped. is more convenient pp farming more prefered than uniqueness of some plays?
Csr)))))
I think rate change ranked will be amazing, I've been playing maps I love sped up for years and really like the leaderboards for it on lazer, but gotta be careful with implementation. I'd be happy to see some sort of scaling so its less abuseable?
i think whats moree impressive isi that cloutifult has 50 top plays and is rank 30 with the osu tutorial worth 6pp in his top plays
W toro from my pov i can see the keypad even went down as if he tapped normally its just at a different time which could in the play count a 300 as a 100 as it was timed a lil late on the "tap" but even the 2nd liveplay wasn't needed but helped clear his name.
The thing that happened to toromivana019 actually happens to me also bc i use a rapid trigger kb
4:45 cleared his name without involving his mom and fucking around i think this is how it should go.
Cloutiful is the csr farmer final boss
not akolibed being mad that hes a washed up one trick. Osu! community is so quick to witch hunt ANYTHING.
What u got against akoli
@@apple20 Just a crazy cope from him. If he took 5 more minutes it wouldnt have put any negative rep on the other guy.
"Good player don't cheat to get good scores, they cheat to get good scores faster"
Still think that Cloutiful should have been banned for longer since Plasma did warn him that DKS was bannable when he showed Cloutiful the trick, but he used it to cheat anyway. I guess welcome back?
And the history repeats its self
7:28 NO WAY POWERWOLF IS A FEATURED ARTIST! Dude, this band is nothing than AMAZING! I recommend everyone to check it out 🤘
rate change ranked worries me a lot for pp and the future of osu! ngl, when it happens, i hope it's something like every 0.10x but i doubt it ngl
i swear people forget cloutiful was a really good AIM player back before he started cheating, he doesn't need speed in an aim meta which was the reason why he cheated, he wasn't as good speed as aim im assuming from the obvious reasons of him cheating.
it's still MASSIVE
Something that I don't get understand:
WhiteCat got banned more than 1 year for account boosting right (iirc)
he didn't cheat if i remember correct or used something illegal
Cloutiful guy did cheat and even try to hide everything he can
how is he unbanned this early?
The explanation is that 1. whitecat shouldn't have been banned for so long, and 2. when it's your first ban on osu!, you're restricted for 6 months (or something like that). Technically, cloutiful already completed the punishment.
But yes, I agree that it's ridiculous to unban someone who cheated to that extend so early. Cloutiful shouldn't be punished like any other cheater.
the support back then was really shit and never consistent
to be fair, he was banned for something that wasn't really classified as cheating until people noticed he was doing and decided it was, so by technicality he didn't do anything wrong, but he technically also did his ban time, and to extend that time would mean to extend the time for everyone else as well
don't forget the tournament ban mathi got as well, osu staff is such a mess that it's impressive
@@idk-jc5fs Nah he should be treated as any other cheater. The extent he cheated to is just his rank which imo should not be treated as a factor for strictly an osu account unban. The actions related to his impact on osu as a cheater is community stuff and it's cloutiful's job to win back favour within the community whether he is banned or unbanned. osu support shouldn't meddle in the community especially when determining unbans as an account is just a platform to submit scores. It's not like peppy issued an order to forgive cloutiful. His cheating was punished by a ban and he served out his ban; his negative impact on the community was punished by public disdain which he is still trying to mend.
Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?
Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?
Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?
Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?
NOOOO RAFIS
gg
if people complain about the rate changes being ranked then they forget that that's how things are supposed to be in the first place. Why do people program themselves to think that only a specific number of people should be able to get 1k+ pp and that the pp record shouldn't be more than 2k. Osu is always changing and there are no limits to the pp ceiling. Making pp more accessible to people should have been there since day one and will never be a bad thing. Many people can do 1.2 or 1.3 on maps instead of 1.5 and I'm sure we'll see more unique play and players finally able to get pp from their playstyles.
why does nobody looking into another r/osureport stating he‘s using aim assist or maybe even replay editor on some of his scores. And also he is seem very suspicious on his profile setting crazy scores such as nfdthr B rank on sidetracked day , and also the fact that none of his "spaced stream" scores in his top plays can be downloaded as replays. The only thing he showed in his recent liveplay is vertex gamma 95 play, which is kind of easy concidering his skill on other maps. And one funny fact - almost immediately after his 95 play on gamma, he sets 95 fc on 1.22x version of vertex delta (which is 330bpm). I am not sure if he’s legit or not, but I think this guy should be looked into much further than just analyzing his inputs on liveplay
Its because Cloutiful has always been established as an aim player on par with Snowy, Mahood and Badeu. It was only suspicious when he started playing speed
its kinda unfair seeing ppl who get ban and hard to get unban, but cloutiful can unban so fast
POWERWOLF FEATURED ARTIST HELL YEAH
im a bit confused, why did people see a keypad move like 2cm and then immediately say "yep, that's enough evidence to accuse someone of cheating." I don't see the correlation between a keypad moving slightly and being physically unable to register an input?
dude why isn’t anyone talking about the fact that lifeline went from 2nd to BARELY SINGLE DIGIT and might be kicked out of the top 10 soon
7:12
I completely forgot about that guy tbh. I think it's dumb for him to be unbanned so early.
Then again I never really liked him so my opinion may be biased because of this idk.
im happy that cloutiful got unbanned but ngl the csr abuse is crazy
2:22 M-Massive???
you know what else is massive?
He's talking about that low taper faaadee
LAZER BROS STAY WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🔥🔥🔥
rafis stayed in that top 50 for so long it seems fair
Bro couldn't even pfc the tutorial 😭😭
I'm 150k because I almost exclusively play custom dt and I have several 250pp+ plays with rate change bro I'm gonna reach 5 digit when this rework releases I wanna stay 6 digit don't take it away from me
whats the skin your using?
I need to know this too
@@bazzahd8885 SANE
same i love that skin
7:30 MAAAAATEEEEER MAAAAARIAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
bro cloutiful is my fucking friend and i didnt KNOW that WTFFFFFFFFFF
im not surprised cloutiful is that high already although he abused speed meta while cheating his aim was still insane regardless
This week's news feels so ironic. Cloutiful is back, and a top 100 player that isn't him is caught cheating. Feels strange.
The Russian guy is not cheating
"caught cheating" idk how you prove you are not cheating if not with that detailed peice of a liveplay
It's called an SS. Cuz, yknow, the rank.
Why are we calling that a perfect FC? "Perfect FC" is better suited for FCing with no dropped ends, not 100% acc.
What's the skin from the background gameplay? (First one)
Maybe that's just 63ms moment 😢
yo whats your danser motion blur setting
i am once again requesting the osu skin
having "cheating accusations" and "cloutiful" in the same title is wild
Does anyone know what skin is used in the beginning?
how about 1.3k ninerik pp record
yo wsg orange boi early
wassup bro :D
does anyone have the skin in the background? it looks nice
I almost choked on my food. Wdym lifeline is top 9???
Whats the 1st Skin name?8
Bro even cloutiful is back on the leaderboards and aetrna isnt 😭😭
hello stew
hello bro :D
do you think stew tastes good
idk
Toromivana is legit.
i think cloutiful unban is good he's good people
Who is cloutiful?
63 guy
Im cheating
You can watch this video to know more about his controversy: ruclips.net/video/T5WKfsMhQ4w/видео.htmlsi=_B0pBllLUR2yenak
1 view in one minute? bro fell off.
I'm happy about the news for rate change pp. I for some fucking reason am better at aiming when it's like 1.1 speed maps
discord link dont work
Ill fix it. Thx for letting me know