yes but that was a psychatric thing ( burnout) they had a buffet for dinner and breakfast and you could choose from 4 options for lunch it was in fact pretty good but i also had some stuff that i wozuld not feed pigs with ( they woult not eat it )
In Dänemark the midwife is the specialist, too. And their education is intense and long. Almost as long as the doctor. The doctor comes at the scene in case of abnormal situation, c-sections etc.
Historically it's more the experienced woman from the village. And they can take more time, cause they are cheaper than a doctor - but more specialized than a nurse.
I'm just blown away from the high mother and baby death rates in the US(the highest in the western world). It just show that good care, public health insurance and maternity leave like you experienced in Germany can save many lives.
Yes. I think in US it is the High amount of Home delivery where it takes longer to get a doctor if anything goes wrong. Of course costs are one of the reasons for taking the decision to do a home delivery.
For a german, it's interesting hearing you talk about "delivery" all the time, instead of birth. Sounds like putting the mother in the role of a delivery boy.
@@holger_p it is used in another context. It means to set someone free from something. Like jemanden von der Schweigepflicht entbinden. Means to Release someone from confidentiality. Overall its mostly a release from a obligation or burden
Hey, I‘m a German ObGyn doctor working in obstetrics daily. Feel free to ask me anything in response to this comment. Some input by me: We are generally very welcoming towards epidurals. Sometimes, there are situations where we just know it makes no sense. For example, if you wish to deliver under water. Or when the baby is just about to come. Sorry to hear about the bismal food, which looks like what I saw in hospitals like 10 years ago. Trust me, there are much better ones out there 😬
Ok, i work in german hospitals for the last 20 yrs. so some things towards the food: If you cook food in a german Hospital, you have to heat everything to 100° C to secure, that theres no contermination on the food of any kind. So Pasta is usually overcooked, potatoes are overcooked and so on. Everythings cooks way longer, than you would do at home. Also, the food arives at the ward mostly 30-60 minutes before serving. So anything crunchy will be steamed in its own juices and become soggy. The Omlett with the salted potatoes and the spinach is btw. a typical german meal i grew up with as a kid. Oh, and the sugar is for the tea youre goin to make yourself for lunch ^^
My wife and I split our Elternzeit after our son was born - so each of us had seven months with him at home, me (obviously) having the later 7. It has been a really great experience I can highly recommend. Being there 24/7 when he started to conquer his world from sitting up over the first steps up to the "Eingewöhnung" at the Kindergarten was quite a voyage :)
When I was at college in the US, I needed a root canal done. As it turned out my mandatory US insurance only covered “accidents”. It was cheaper to fly to Germany and back, and get it done for free. Paying, what, around 30k for a birth? Skin contact afterwards (holding it) an extra fee? That’s just unimaginable to me. 🤯
Its unimaginable because it is greatly exaggerated. No one pays that and most people have insurance that covers nearly all of it. There are poor people in America who have no insurance that are having babies everyday. You honestly think people pay $30000 to have a baby. As for your tooth did you have Dental insurance. If you did it would have covered the cost of your root canal.
@@bengaljam4550 BS, then hundreds of americans I talked to here in the Ramstein do not support your opinion. And every documentation about healthcare in the US tells otherwise. Even Americans with insurance often avoid going to gthe doctor or hospitals, because of the exta cost.
@@andreashorn9638 Oh yes. Ramstein. I was stationed at Sembach Air Base in the early 80's. Would like to go back someday and see how the area has changed. AS far as healthcare in America all I can add is that is not how it has been for me and the people I know here. It's a country of 350 million people. Most people have insurance. I am sure you can find instances of the health care system and its failures. As far as avoiding going to the hospital. I avoid it too. Not because of the costs but because it is a hassle. In America if you go to the hospital everyone wants a piece of the pie. Show up with a broken finger and they will do X-rays and a surgeon will say it needs to be surgically repaired. Then a physical therapist will tell you you need 9 weeks of physical therapy. Then you have to take time off from work. I will go if I truly need it but if I can heal at home I will. All I am saying is most of what I am hearing on these posts is for the most part exaggeration. Not saying it can't happen. All these posts of people trying to compare Germany and America is crazy. You can't compare two countries with complete different set of values and population. America is very diverse with a lot of differing viewpoints. Having a German style healthcare would be nice in America i agree but people would abuse it. Same people would show up everyday with different ailments. Drug abusers and homeless.
Just an aside regarding food: I stayed in a Swedish hospital for 10 days and I GAINED weight. The food was fantastic. Plus in Sweden, if you are mobile, you join other patients in a dining room, so you have some social contact. We were served breakfast, lunch and dinner plus snacks (pastry or sandwiches) three times a day.
bei meinem letzten Krankenhausaufenthalt, habe ich abgenommen. 11 Tage 3 Implantate in meinem Knie - und ich wog 8 KG weniger. Es gab fast nur "Kinderteller" . . . . 😂😂😂
Believe me. You saved him a lot of problems by dropping the IV. I work in IT and all databases I deal with only have the option to save first and last names when it comes to storing usernames, and sometimes those just have to match their legal names to perform certain operations. Names with IV, however, often cannot be entered into a lot of applications because this is considered an incorrect entry and then he would be stuck.
@@tomb5372 I can't do anything about it, because I have to collect data that is required by German law and I have to send it to an interface of a government webservice. According to their specification they only accept the first and last name and declare characters like IV as invalid. So i have to prevent users from entering them into my website. Also. My users are required by law to enter their data into my website if they want to work in a specific field in Germany. So it's not an optional thing they can do. It's mandatory. Germany simply does not support having a name suffix.
@@d34d10ck I'm not saying you personally have to. Germany's IT is so incredibly backwards and poorly done, it's just an embarrassment. Yes, I am German :P
@@tomb5372 While I would agree that our IT is in serious need of improvement, I would argue that naming a child after yourself and adding a number is not a thing( or at least very uncommon) in Germany, and that a change to those IT systems because of that would be waste of tax payers' money.
@@tomb5372 Tja bevor du dich über Software beschwerst - zu Recht oder Unrecht ist hier irrelevant - solltest du dich vielleicht erst mal erkundigen, ob es dafür nicht auch möglicherweise andere Gründe geben kann...was hier übrigens der Fall ist. Namensbeigaben wie der Dritte (dargestellt als III) oder in diesem Fall der Vierte (IV) sind in Deutschland seit Abschaffung der Adelsprivilegien nach dem ersten Weltkrieg nicht mehr erlaubt. iese Art der Namesngebung ist historisch gesehen direkt verknüpft mit dem Adel (übrigens nicht nur in Deutschland, sondern praktisch in ganz Europa). In Deutschland sind nur noch die Namenszusätze "von" und/oder "zu" erlaubt - in Österreich ist nicht einmal das mehr erlaubt. In beiden Ländern geht das zurück auf die Niederlage im Ersten Weltkrieg und die darauf folgende Abschaffung der Monarchie und der Privilegien des Adels in 1919. Also nicht immer alles auf "rückständige IT" oder was dir auch immer sonst so einfällt schieben. Es macht übrigens keinen Sinn, ein IT-System so einzurichten, dass es auch Eingaben zulässt, die aufgrund der Rechtslage (und nicht wegen technischer Gründe) unzulässig sind. Und bevor du nun sagst, dass man das dann doch einfach nachträglich korrigieren könnte, wenn fälschlicherweise doch mal ein unzulässiger Namenszusatz eingetragen worden sein sollte bei einer Software, die so konfiguriert ist, dass diese Eingabe möglich wäre - nein, dass kann man nicht. Wir reden hier von offiziellen Dokumenten; daran einfach Änderungen vorzunehmen erfüllt den Tatbestand der Urkundenfälschung und ist somit eine Straftat.
I think we have different understandings of how Leacy Names work and that's why our authorities are struggling with that. You often have an inherited name here - especially with old farming families. Since 1615, for example, the first son has been named Xaver, because the first free farmer in the family was called Xavier. But at any given point in history you have a maximum of four Xaviers on the farm and for that the first of the four has to get really old. People can easily tell these four people apart, not only because of age but also because a different middle name is often given or because and in many areas it is also common to use the farm name as the name for the actual farm owner in the family. So it may be that your name is Xaver Clemens Maria Oberhuber on paper, and you were called Clemens as a child, everyone in the village addresses you as Hollerer because your farm is Hof Holler. ... and if you then also have a striking physical feature - like red hair - and a special knack for horses, people will call you Hollerer Ross Fuchs and not as Xaver Oberhuber XVI. ... and when your mother calls for you with your full official name, you know your in trouble.
True, my great-grandfather, my grandfather, the oldest of my uncles and his oldest son all have the same first name, but different middle names. I never new, that you would number them. I always thought that senior and junior in articles was just an extra that was written to make it clearer, but not something that was in official documents. Like whoever was the eldest would be named senior and when senior died there would be another senior.
How does this work in the US? The first person in a family with a given name is automatically called "senior", in case his son will also get the same name? Or do you add the "senior" when the son is born?
As someone working at a german hospital and sometimes eating the same lunch as the patients, the food can be quite hit and miss. Some dishes can be quite good, some are damn bland. But it might be that the quality in our hospital isn't too bad.
I'm a German and my wife (a Filipina) had our 3 kids in a German hospital. - about doctors involvement - yes, midwifes run the show in the delivery room, but the doctor is superior. If problems arise during birth, both the midwife and the doctor switch roles. This means the doctor or his team take over while the midwife supports it. Usually difficulties can be discovered prior to delivery, thus certain preparitions are made. This includes pediatricians and necessary NICU units - if that may be necessary. Thus - the way it goes - is usually decided upon normal delivery or problems being suspected. BTW midwifes are considered coaches for anything concerning late stage pregnancy and first period at home. If a lady has no experienced female support, midwives offer such support. But those midwifes are not bound to a hospital. Rather they are bound to the area they are serving. (Which makes it a different set of midwifes.) - about procing - usually being in a hospital (normal rooms up to 3 people) will be paid for by our health insurance. But we have to pay a prescription fee of about 10 Euro. I don't recall that for the delivery. Child birth is something very special - even for insurance - thus it could be that the prescription fee is not requested in this case. - family room - We didn't have that. In fact I was excluded from the waiting area in the maternity ward. I was only allowed to join my wife in the delivery room when delivery was closing in. This was done in order not to upset the other ladies in preparation of their birthing. Just after birth the newborn is taken away for a few hours in order to give the exhausted lady some really needed rest. (My experience is 30 years ago. There might have been some changes.) - food - yes, it is not the best. But you should remember that many people have diatary requirements. A cantina cannot fullfill such requirements. Thus you use the lowest common ground. The food you get should not cause any health problems. The sugar, I don't understand. Usually that is added for the tea - no more. Mineral water and tea should have been available in abundance - without extra fee. Often relatives bring along fruits or small bakery stuff to supplement the food. Usually you know by then which food you can eat without causing a problem for mother and / or child. - prisoner - If you want to stay and especially for the ladies after a long delivery, resting is paramount. But for everyone going to a hospital I would suggest, bringing along an e-reader, a tablet or a laptop (tethering to your cellphone should be possible where an internet connection is NOT provided). BTW the TV is there for a reason. Usually there is a spot in the hospital wher you can buy snacks and magazines (not a full spread, but at least something). Especially if you are a busy person, get something along to keep yourself busy. - naming rules - They really exist to prevent names that may cause harassment in the kid's later life. But usually foreigners are not fully subjected to German laws. Often the city office is NOT fully schooled in the options. (The office doing it is the "Standesamt" where you declare birth, marry or get a death certificate.) Each state in Germany has a main office for this at the state capital - where the other offices ask for help (usually). If the office refuses your wishes, you can ask for a later change by court. In your case military US offices might help those local German offices to see the light. As you seem not to stay in Germany for the rest of your life, they should have been more lenient toeards the customs of your own country. - citizenship - Yes, you are right about your kid. And NO you are wrong about dual citizenship. According to German law kids can have the citizenship of their parents if all laws (German and foreign country) allow it. I have already mentioned that my kids had a German father and a Phillipine mother. Thus my kids inherited the German AND the Filipino citizenship. France allows the same. Dual citizenship is not common, but it is not impossible. As you mentioned German law recognizes citizenship according ancestry. - government benefits - this "parental holiday" (my naming) is currently up to 3 years. But you don't know additional benefits. I'm an insurance guy and thus I will fill you in for those. In the old age pension insurance the mother will currently get 3 years of paid old age pension insurance. This is given to every mother even if she does NOT take the holiday. An additional 10 years are given for education and increasing the pension. That is not improving that much, but it is added because mostly ladies have to restrict themselves in their jobs for about 10 years if they care for their children. Working half a day is such a restriction. This benefit is thought as some exchange for this care that you provide. This rules were inacted retrospectively. Thus my mom (currently 92 years old - kids from 1956 to 1962) gained a higher pension as well. Birthing children is not easy and giving care is not easy either. Usually this information is automatically passed via the city office to the old age pension office - thus you don't even know that it is done (but I'm an insurance guy and thus I knew. I prepared the pension applications for my parents as well.) - children care or Kindergarten - usually kids are placed in such care with age 3. If you need somebody before that you organize privately something called Tagesmütter. Something like a professional grandmum but with papers allowing her to do it. Most states have declared that having a place for your kid is a fundamental right which you can claim. But it is best to walk to such a place as soon as possible and explain: "Hey I live there and I want my kid to be with you in xx months." Thus you will be on the list. Should be NO problem. My 3 kids were treated that way. School is something that the local town invites you and the kids for. Remember you are a registered citizen in your town and thus is your kid. - stroller - we have some where the baby seat of the car could be used instead of a full bed. For your purpose that seemed to have been a better solution. On the other hand the version you have shown, the bed can be replaced by a seat. I have been to the Philippines often and my kids were at least 18 months when we did that. I have experienced younger kids on planes, they were just crying and refused to be calmed down. They simply cannot stand the environment. That may be no problem if your kid is used to noise and sleeps easily. Older kids can be made busy with lot of things, but being 2 parents helped a lot. As we have been flying with Asian airlines mostly, the support via the female staff was extraordinary. They just LOVE kids. I'll post this now and will add some more details as I continue to watch your video. I try to be most accurate, but remember my memories are from 20 to 30 years ago. Medicine and procedings may have changed. I will add if I see any changes that are important. - I did not see big changes and I added my experience and knowledge.
Wrong. In Germany the doctor is NOT superior during birth. It is the midwife who is in control. For instance she determines whether a caesarian birth is necessary. My daughter is a midwife and delivered more than 1000 babies. And during the normal birth a doctor was never in control.
@@templer1307 That is not how I experienced it. The doctor is not the only specialist in the room and he takes over as soon as problems arise. He may not run the show in normal situations but he was always in the room. He has the superior education. He can do more than a midwife. And nobody told me differently. My wife was always treated by a team of which midwife AND a doctor were members. I was there everytime as well.
As a German that is used to the fact that the most important and basic things get covered by our insurance I would be really interested what you have to pay in the US.
Australian here. Both babies delivered by my partner - with midwife helping. No doctor present as they weren't needed. My pre-natal care was provided by the midwives at the hospital so we knew them. Public hospital - has a queen sized bed, ensuite with a birthing pool. No epidural or medicalised procedures. The whole process occurred in the same room and I stayed for 4 days with the first bub, 1 with the second. I could have had interventions had I wanted to, but I didn't want to. Didn't pay a cent. Beautiful experience.
Congratulations! I had a severe heart attack 3 months ago, stayed 5 days in intensive care and another 2 normal. The food was actually way better than I expected, the whole week through. Btw. the Schnitzel you mentioned was actually a chicken escalope ("Hähnchenschnitzel"). No wonder it wasn't at all like a typical Schnitzel.
Congratulations to all three of you. Heart attack here too, almost same time. But only 4 days ICU. How good was your rehab? The food in hospital was crap. They centralized the preparing of food for all hospitals in my region (~1 Mio pop.) and it was quite annoying. Very dry bread, cheap toppings. The highlight of the day was the coffee and cake each afternoon. The coffee in general was quite good. For the delivery: my son is 21 now but I can remember the day of his birth very well. My wife was very much afraid of that day, she had her first son born in GDR with rude doctors and ruder midwifes. All in all it was a pleasant experience for both of us, but she bit me in the ellbows bend at one of the last contractions so the doctor had to look over me, too ;-) Both had to stay more than a week, because my son developed a jaundice, so the doctors decided to take care a little bit longer. Sad to say I had no chance to stay with her, startet on a new job a few weeks before the birth and had only a single day off.
I'm pregnant myself at the moment (5th month) and I'm really excited about what the experience will be like. I'm 23, my partner is younger than me and it's my first baby. But we're both looking forward to receiving our sweet little human and I can only imagine how it will feel holding him or her in my arms for the first time, realising 'This is my baby and I'm his mom' 😍♥️
8:30 No, you can't say that in general. Hospital food is different in every hospital and in some it is bad and in some good. Then you have to remember that in a hospital they have to cook for many clients and most of them have to follow diets that don't allow the use of spices. For example most people with cardiac and circulatory illnesses are not allowed much salt. That is why I always have a travel set of spices with me when I'm in hospital. It has the diameter of a soda can and half the height and has 6 compartments with different common spices like salt, pepper, paprika,.... And btw - for the money they want in an American hospital it should a high class menu like from a restaurant with Guide Michelin stars.
Back in 1984 , I was a military wife. Our baby was born in a german hospital due to him being a premie. Let me tell you that was a trip!! At that time my son was granted dual citizenship. I could write a book on that experience. LOL!
From the comments I thought you’d tried to name your baby Dumbledore or IV (first name)! Glad I watched the whole video 😂 The legacy name thing isn’t really a thing in the UK either. It’s not unusual for you to be called James McDonald (for example) and your father, grandfather, great grandfather etc etc to have been called the same, but we don’t number it. I’m not sure if numbered titles even get registered on the birth certificate as a title is often what you inherit rather than born with. I can understand the confusion from the German authorities (a bit annoying that it’s clearly possible on the system though considering your own driving license has it!). Congratulations to you both!
Actually I am very surprised that the "III" appears on German legal documents at all. It is just not a thing here, since democracy abolished nobility in the 1920's.
I think in Germany the birth of the baby is more a personal thing so that's why the lack of staff,or lack of involvement. I think a lot of women give birth at home and just have an overall better understanding of birth.. I feel like in the US people perceive it as some kind of service they need to receive,so they want as much service as possible,as if it's not something what you need to be doing on your own(since it is clearly a child emerging out from your insides) My birthing experience in Germany was not nice at all,but my first baby I delivered at home in the Netherlands and that one went much better,it was very calm and just perfect. In Germany I found myself in a hospital where only one person spoke english and it was a male nurse,and sadly at the time i was new in the country so i spoke 0 german and i also requested no male attendees because of my other health conditions..I suffered complications so there was a bunch of people in the DR and also it a was a teaching hospital so they tried to usher some 12 students into the room which was denied by me and that somehow didnt help me since they were upset that they couldn't teach their class as I was struggling to deliver my baby... so it really sucked,but it was still much better than what I would be receiving for care in my home country.
Depends heavily on the hospital. It's definitely gotten worse over the last years. More and more hospitals don't prepare their own food anymore to save money. It is delivered by external companies, warmed up and then it's usually awful.
to my understanding the only things we paid for in terms of our third baby's birth in germany was the family room. (72€ a night for 3 nights). That was it. TOTALLY worth it.
Legacy names are just not a thing anymore in Germany. A few decades ago it was still common to name your firstborn son the same as the father (and probably the grandfather), but even in those cases there were never any numerals involved. And nowadays that tradition is pretty much dead.
As I gave birth to my two sons, 1979 and 1981, I stayed in the hospital for 10 days. For a cesarean birth it was up to 14 days. So nowadays it is much shorter. What they told me was it takes time to recuperate and if I went home I wouldn't get the rest I needed for recuperating completely, as I would start doing chores, etc. I must confess I really loved the time of my second birth, as I had my mom and my mother in law taking care of my oldest child. Just imagine, 10 days resting, reading and listening to music in my old cassette recorder. Lovely!!!!
From a foreigner who also gave birth in Germany, check those Elternzeit dates... and I live in a relatively quiet city, and waited too long to look for a Kitta.. when she was 3 months old, and was saved by the government (coz childcare is a right)
Hospital food is interesting in the US. We had our first child in city A, hospital food was fabulous. Food you'd get in an upscale hotel. Just mind blowing. Wife had some complications so we had to stay a day longer than normal for a c-section. We both were so glad to finally be able to get home, none of us got any sleep as my wife was constantly (every hour or two) checked upon by nurses day and night. Then, 3 years later we had our second child, same hospital chain but now in city B (same state) as we had moved. Absolutely horrible food, barely edible. Luckily, no complications this time and she was allowed to go home a day earlier than normal. Also didn't get much sleep, so we were glad to be able to go home as early as possible. My wife did hire a midwife for the second child as she wanted a VBAC, we had to pay ourselves but it was well worth it. This was 10 years ago.
Keep in mind: Giving birth is a very normal, natural process. For hundred thousand of years babies were born without anyone overseeing the process or maybe just relatives or the village eldest. Of course there are risks but unless there is an emergency situation, that's less than one out of hundred cases, I fail to see the requirement for having a doctor being actively involved in that process; it's actually not a medical process.
LOL, dying is a very normal, natural process. Midwives are also mentioned in the old testament of the bible, therefore must have been existent since at least 6th-5th century BC, so for at least 7-8K years.Maternity dying rates have dropped in industrial countries since the beginning of the 20th century from 300 per 100,000 to 8-12 nowadays. That means .3 percent of all Births ended in death without medical attendance. That does not include mothers being badly injured or handicapped after birth. BTW in 2017 the mother mortality rate was 308 in Ghana. IDK, what your emergenxy situation statistic comes from. But less than 1 per 100 cases is actually a lot, considering women are giving birth more than twice in their life time, on average.That is saying every 50th woman is disposable. And getting in a car accident is a natural process, too. Would you rather have it in the countryside or as close to medical care as possible?
@@anka2978 If the death-to-birth rate would have been one or less, mankind would have died out, so apparently this has never been the case, not even 50.000 years ago. And 0.3% is less than 1 out of 100, correct? Well, that's what I said. Further keep in mind that the world has never been equally developed and while in some parts people knew that the world is a globe and where able to calculate its diameter, in other parts people didn't even have developed handwriting yet, so what you just did is to generalize from a very tiny part of the world onto the entire rest.
@@xcoder1122 I think you are confusing the maths here. Death to birth rat is death/birth. If 3 out of 1000 people die during birth it is (3/1000 = 0.3) and that is smaller than 1. If there are two deaths per birth it is (2/1 = 2 ) >1. I also wasn't arguing against your number, I was trying to make you see, that 1% is a lot. 0.6 from my numbers (0.3 death rate x 2), would still be enough to justify medical attendance during the birthing process. And I fail to see, where I was generalizing out of context. My point was with proper medical attendance, the death to birth rate decreased significantly. I simply compared numbers from former just midwife attendance, to scarce medical attendance, to good medical attendance.
@@anka2978 I said less than 1 out of 100 cases will have any complications and you say 3 out of 1000 will die, which perfectly matches my number, as 3 out of 1000 is below 1 out of 100 and note that I said complications, not death. Not all complications lead to death.
Congratulations to you both, giving birth system in the UK is same with Germany. Midwife in charge of delivery. Consultant or OB GYN only come if complications or C section needed.
Congratulations! I had good luck, because I had the option to give birth in a "geburtshaus". This is medical house leaded by midwife without any doctors. If there are doctors needed you will be transferred to the next hospital. But this happens rarely because there are strict rules for a geburtshaus to accept births. Eg it must be around the birthdate, if you're much too early or much too late you are not allowed to stay in a geburtshaus. The same is with pregnancy-diabetes or high blood pressure, so the risk of complications is minimized. For me this was a really good experience. I felt assisted, encouraged and very safe. I was afraid, that when I am in hospital and everything is fine with my birthing process, that no one takes care of me, because there is a c-section to do and in the next room declines a woman, or what ever catastrophe happens so no one has time for a "normal and boring" birth. I wished for someone experienced in giving birth stays by my side the whole time so I don't have to be afraid of whatever to come. And my wishs came true. My midwifes name was Antje and she stayed with me, told me I am doing well, everything is fine and so on. And: the food was great!
Sorry to hear about the food. All my experiences in Swiss hospitals, along with those of my wife and our daughter (who's a doctor) have been, that the food quality was between good and very good. Emminently edible. I even missed the ordering time for my first breakfast and lunch as I was delivered to the hospital at 3 am and was in Angioplasty until around 5 am. So they asked me what I wanted which for breakfast a good hour later than normal was more than I could eat after a heart attack. Lunch, then I ordered on-the-fly on the light side. Dinner then was "normal" and was light because ... in Switzerland the main meal is at lunch. BTW - pricing: My total bill for 5 days in the hospital, 2 of those were in intensive care was CHF 16,600. The insurance paid for EVERYTHING except for the deductible for that year. Since I'd had quite a few appointments and such during the year, this was low. Plus there was a CHF 15.-/day "solidarity charge" to help defray the costs of the rare patients who do not have insurance - mostly foreign tourists. (No one is refused care for not having insurance) So my out of pocket costs were a grand total of CHF 149.- Language: No problems. My German is fluent, but many doctors seemed to want to practice English. So I complied. In fact, I even had to say that they could speak Swiss dialect, inasmuch as I understand that too, but it's kind of a natural reaction, that if a Swiss person hears someone speaking High German, the reply in Swiss High German.
Congrats and all the best to the three of you. First Things First: the best Magicuser ist of course Rincewind 😛 About that dual citizenship Thing, and you might have covered this at some time, while Germany generally does not Accept dual citizenship, there are (Lots of) exceptions. For example a friend of mine was born in Texas, while her (german) parents worked there. She lived in Texas for about 2 years and the Family moved back to Germany. She has German as well as US citizenship, as she was born to german parents, but on US soil. So consequently although she lives, works and pays taxes in Germany, she has to fill out a crapload of IRS paperwok every year.
As you go out walking and maybe hiking a lot, did you consider getting a baby-sling or a special kind of rucksack to carry the child in? It is way more convenient than having to push a stroller or pram through the woods and much easier to travel by bus or train.
Congratulations to your new baby boy! Glad to hear that it went well!! Your experiencesoundsike mine here in Sydney, Australia. There is a midwife present at birth here as she was with you. All midwives were amazingly supportive and calm. We also were left alone for stretches of time, but it was clear that she would come in if called. I stayed at hospital between 10 hours and 7 days after giving birth, due to baby needingtobein NICU. Food varied with each child- my husband brought me take away food once a day. Costs at each birth: we had to pay for parking. Unfortunately no midwife visits here, that would have been great! Elternzeit und -geld leider nicht mit Deutschland zu vergleichen. Are your parents visiting soon? They must be keen to meet your little one. BTW: firstborn boys often were given the same first name as their dad in the past in Germany, with a different middle name. Not very common anymore. Dumbledore of course
Swede here, my partner and I had our first child born in week 29+3 last November (2023) with an emergency c-section after my partner developed preeclampsia. We both had to stay at the local Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) for about a month. We later transferred to the Neonatal Care Unit (NCU) for another 2 months, totaling a bit over 3 months in the hospital and away from work. I could not begin to imagine the amount of stress if we had to pay for that stay and not get our income at least almost covered by the national insurance fund. My partner also had what we call pregnancy insurance that gave her additional monetary means above the national insurance fund. Here all healthcare services are free for everyone under the age of 18 and in the end, it cost us nothing out of pocket, however since I earn more than the national insurance fund covers I lost about 15% of my monthly earnings. Since many Americans always default to either "wait time" or "taxes", last year (2023) the sum of ALL taxes ended up at just under $22,000, Remember that is income tax, communal tax, and ALL other tax forms we have here.
Midwife’s also do the care all the time during pregnancy. I appreciated this a lot, because it is much more human than a doctor taking care of pregnancy.
Hi y'all, congrats! I'm so happy everything went fine. Hospital food - it depends on the hospital you're staying in. I had a c-section 23 years ago in Mannheim Klinikum (I chose this particular hospital bc I had a risk pregnancy with twins and at that time this hospital was the only one in a 25km perimeter around my home where the neonatology was in the same hospital as the maternity ward, so I went there "just in case" sth went not to plan). They had a big buffet in the foyer of the maternity ward (like in a hotel) for breakfast with cereals, rolls, sweet buns, jam, honey, eggs, cold cuts, and cheese. Lunch and dinner were pretty good (excellent for a hospital). Westpfalzklinikum is notorious among my relatives who live not too far away from K-town for having bad food. CU twinmama RQOTW Neither - it's Vilgefortz von Roggeveen, it took a witcher, a sorceress, and a higher vampire to defeat him... (sorry for any spoilers of the novels)
Firstly - congratulations to the new, healthy sunshine in your life.👶As for prices, everything comes with a cost. The highest cost you will have in the near future is not so much about money, but is associated with little sleep at night. So no consistent sleep for several hours. And you will have to face it, neither of the two wizards will be able to help you with this. 🤗
Gandalf because I reaaaal, like the actor One of the practical thing about the three days in hospital is, I think, that A) first doctors visits for mom and Baby (U1 and when I remrmber correctly also U2) are there. So you don't have to drive somewherr else and be comfortable B) whrn there are complications in the first days they can immediatily react My daughter i.e. had lung problems vut it just appeared on her second day and so they reacted fast enough and she survived C) you can learn. These first days are perfect for asking last questions about babycare and so on.
Regarding the food in a hospital in Germany: you are in a hospital, not a hotel. The food is there to keep you healthy and not starving and on top of it the food has to be cheap. You could have better food, but for that you would need to be in a private insurance since a private insurance is typically more willing to pay higher prices (the general insurance will pay what is needed, not some fancy stuff). The food will keep you alive for the time that you NEED to be in hospital, but at the same time you will want to go home as soon as possible (nobody wants that you go to a hospital so that you finally get something good to eat if you normally eat some junk at home xD). Some people need to stay in hospital for several months and most of the time they are laying in bed during that time and now imagine they would eat the normal stuff that they eat at home: they would be obese after all these months and that would be the total opposite of what the hospital wants to achieve.
The food in hospitals is just shit because hospitals want to save money on food. And the food is sometimes so bad in hospitals that if you have to stay there longer you miss out vitamins and you loose wight which can be extremely dangerous when you are already sick with a life-threatening illness. My uncle for example got blue meat (expelled meat) in the hospital which is just dangerous.
There is only one law in Germany regarding naming: BVerfG, 1 BvR 576/07: "(...) A limit may only be set to this right of parents to choose their first name where its exercise threatens to impair the well-being of the child. The state is […] entitled and obliged to" If he is the 4. Donald of the Family and it anyhow matters, he automaticly will be called Donald the fourth. That normaly only happened in old noble families of high standings - like Kings where "named" after there deeds ("Donald the Great") they would also have a numbering If ancestors had the same name. The reason was, that they needed to be distinguishable so that the people would know wich "King Donald" they where talking about, or gave them the new law, etc. To be precise, this "nameing" is not a nameing but a "calling". If you truly NAME your child Donald IV. it easily is considered extreamly arrogant, like you saying "My child/whole family stands above every other, they are to be seen as a Kings". Also, the dot behind the number is extreamly (!!) important. It makes the difference of "the fourth" and "four". So without it, the name will litteraly be Donald (not "the") 4. And it will be what he normaly would be called out loud, Donald Vier. Not "der Vierte". I can understand where the confusion came from. The numbering of human beeings is considered a big no no in Germany, because it objectifies a human beeing and robs him of his individuality (He isnt an individul, special beeing but only the 4. of many the same). Worse, it has been done so for example with the jews in the 3. Reich, one of the reasons was exactly to dehumanize them, making them equal to cattle (worse even). So yeah,... 😅 Guess your child will run into some teasing.
I think the hospital food depends on the hospital. When I stayed in Münster(westf), the food was as good as standard restaurant. I even got delicious wienerschnitzel. I'm not sure if there is different food menu between normal patient and pregnancy.
you can actually choose your food, put breakfast and dinner together as you like it, for lunch you can choose between 2- 3 dishes, actually the sister should ask about it once a day if she forgets to speak to the sister
Can't see how it's unique having a different midwife delivering the baby as you mentioned it was a long birth...are doctors in America robots who don't need sleep and so under worked they can sit with you till the baby decides to come!!!...I know I'd prefer Germany or any country in Europe to have a baby than in America considering infant mortality is higher in the States ...but glad all went well, your second will be a breeze 👍💕
Hello there,Im a german chef and I used o work in a hospital and in several pensioneers homes.Regarding the food I can tell you that the budget for it is not high and almost never changes.That means that you cannot expect high quality plus it might be even cooked somewhere else and delivered to the hospital.Unfortunately this is very common throughout germany.
The hospital food depends on the hospital. When I was last in hospital 9 years ago with a broken ankle, I could choose between four different variations of meals.
Hello, nurse speaking! I want to point out that midwives are specialists in child birth, maternity care, and can even care for a child up 28 days of age. Most, regardless of country worldwide, will carry an IBCLC along with their midwife training. Regardless if you are in the USA or European Union, midwives would be the best choice for attending the birth of your child whether it be in hospital, birthing center, or home- which are choices in most places worldwide.
You could apply for kindergarten as soon as you have the certfikcate for the child. This is by the most city's its a seperate office that is only for kids and childs. Even in small city you have problems when you want the child in the Kita from the first year.
The "Krankenhausessen" is legendary in Germany. All speek about Healthy food but i had the option between salat OR vegetabale with the klump of meat and potatos. O.K., my mother was in a hispital and the food was good, it was a katholic hospital. A lot of nuns working there.
The surname is a family name in Germany, so it is the same for the complete family. A spouse can have a double name by adding his or her birth family name. But the third or the fourth is not common.
I think, the biggest difference is not the delivering, but the prenatal and postnatal care for baby and mother. Thats really important. Being pregnant, you go to all of the checks of pregnancy, ten, afaik, and after birth, you go to the checks for mothers and babies. For children, there are 10 checks in different stages in age, and there is a 11 one, when the child is about 16 to 18 years. The pregnant mothers get a mutterpass, where all important things are written down ( keep it, it may be important, when later having more babies). The children get a Untersuchungsheft, where all important results of their development are written down. Keep that too. Afaik, All examinations are mandatory. If you dont go to the examination, you will get a call from your doctor, or even a visit from the Jugendamt.
Congratulations! I come from Germany and we were in a "birth house". Only midwives work there, no doctors. However, if problems arise during the birth that cannot be solved on site, there is a direct dial number to the hospital for transport. And our midwife got a call at midnight that we're on our way. All this at no extra cost and in nice regular rooms. No hospital or anything. This made everything feel more personal and my wife was very relaxed (of course only at the beginning). All of this was also paid for by the insurance company and our midwife accompanied us for a long time afterwards and stood by our side with everything. Maybe with the next child to the birth house, as we say so nicely here: it doesn't cost anything to look.
german gov and the insurance companies want to keep the mandatory insurance low cost and the three meals have per day a limit of around 10 euro per person or patient! its a hospital and not a five star residence, and even for the 10 euro per patient per day, the meals arent that bad considering the amount of staff, the food supply, the delivery chain needs to be paid. the 10 euro doesnt cover of course all cost and it gets subsidised or it would be more expensive but again, its about keeping it affordable as possible for the people who have to pay mandatory health insurance each month, till end of their life.
Regarding the food. I’ve given birth two times now in the same German hospital. The first time, the food was terrible. Apart from it not tasting very nice, I had pregnancy diabetes, so I couldn’t eat much of the bread. That meant I didn’t have enough to eat before the night started and my delivery really started to gain momentum. Not good! The second time was so much better. The quality and quantity was better. I could ask for more if I needed to. There was a small breakfast buffet that I could also use for my Abendbrot, so I could pick out stuff I was able to eat, and get back for more if needed.
The amount of food you get as a patient is sized to cover your actual dietary needs. If you're spending most of your day in a hospital bed, you need much less energy, so the servings take that into account. Also, the food is usually fairly healthy, just not tasty. I have to admit, I've had much better hospital food than you two got, but I've seen similar, especially for people having to stay longer.
Germany allows dual citizenship for the children if the parents have been in Germany long enough. I'm American (born to two Americans, grew up partially in the states), butsome of my little siblings have dual citizenship since we've lived in Germany for over 8 years. There's just a time limit on how long the parents have to be in Germany for. Otherwise it wouldn't make much sense with multiple generations.
we also are very glad we had our baby here. Having 2 in the states and 1 in germany, this was definitely a great option and have gotten to experience great care here. Our experience in the USA was with wonderful midwives but the govt. doesn't provide this care and it costs for those who desire it.
If you as the insured person are having a baby the insurance pays you your full salary from three months before the expected delivery to six months after the actual delivery. So, the insurance company actually pays you to have a baby I stead of it costing you anything.
Dumbledore! I have had one baby in US and two in Sweden. It seems like Sweden and Germany are the same with midwives and so on. Congrats to your little one!
Congratulations!!! 🎉 I’m very happy for you both. I’m glad your delivery went well and you have a healthy baby boy. I’m due in October with my 1st. I’ve struggled with finding a Hebamme, they seem to be on a short supply in Munich. I’ve decided to do a birth preparation class online. I was told a hospital will have midwives around the clock so it’ll be covered. For the afterbirth care I’m planning to register with an ‘emergency Hebamme’, I can only register in 34th week with them… we’ll see how it goes… My experience with German hospital is positive (I went in for an operation), except the food… I can confirm the food was not what I expected but ok for 2 days… all the doctors spoke pretty good English, with nurses it was a different story but I’ve managed..
Concerning the English language proficiency of nurses (compared to their German), the situation is probably surely developing a bit in your favor: 1. The oldest nurses - who are probably most likely to not have learnt a lot of English, some of them even grown up in USSR or other East European countries without any English classes in school - are retiring, while young "new" nurses - just as young Germans in general - usually know more English. 2. More and more new nurses come from other countries to Germany, for example from African and Latin American countries. In my church, I know three nurses who came to Germany, a year ago, from Uganda, Namibia and Brazil. So there is a growing number of nurses in Germany who speak English (or Spanish, Portuguese, etc.) better than German.
When hospitals were communal property, the meals were bad, because they wanted you out ASAP.. Since hospitals became "investements" for leeches, the meals are bad, because they are cheaper. P.S.: Thumbs up for the Passierschein A38 reference! :)
Das ist quatsch.... Früher war es sinnvoll die Leute so lange zu halten wie möglich, weil nach Tagen bezahlt wurde. Heute gibts einen fast festen Satz pro Erkrankungsart. Da ist Essen eben das erste woran gespart wird. wie oft auch zu Hause
A out this "Passierschein A38" part: I have a fried who had something similar. His mother is from a country where your last name changes depending on your status. For example a maried woman get an extra "a" at the end. He was born here in german and therefor got her mothers last name. Means HE has a last name as if he was a maried woman. But even more strange is that he still has this name even though SHE isn't maried anymore. And he can't change it because it is his official default name.
17:41 Germany allows it if the citizenships are aquired by birth. Aquiring another citizenship later in live is a problem. But this may change this year. Children of foreigners can get german citizenship by birth if one of the parents has lived in Germany legally for 8 years and has a permanent resident permit at the moment of birth.
You don't have to pay for giving birth in German Hospitals. You're insured about your health insurance. As you are working in Germany and paying your monthly insurance fees automatically with getting your salary this is all covered.
Here in the Netherlands, unless there were any complications, you're back home again just hours after delivery. If you even went to a hospital. Over 30% of births happen at home! Giving birth at a hospital without medical need is not free here. The post partum care arrives right after. This isn't done by the midwife, but is a separate (free) service. They don't just take care of mother & child, but clean and do the laundry too.
There is a tale or saying in Germany that sugar attracts the stork. And in return for sugar the stork will bring a baby. So the sugar with the meals might just have been a practical joke.
I'm German and have 2 kids. There were so many options first (midwife, birth house, birth at home or at hospital, rooming, way of giving birth) that I nearly felt overwhelmed. In the end I had to give birth with c-section because there was no other option for me healthwise (due heart issues). So I had to go to a hospital and deliberately chose one with a prenatal station. As there are clinics specialized for women and kids, but I didn't want my baby to be on a different hospital than me in case something went wrong. And I could choice the rooming, the time staying and the aftercare. So I still could make choices. My son was a premie so there was a lot going on there and I had prpblems breatfeeding my daughter first where they proved to be very supportive. So me and my babies always were taken care of very well - without paying a single cent. I certainly heard a lot of stories so these experiences are all VERY ndividual and personal and different so it's hard to make Ga general statement about giving birth "in Germay" I think.
I think the sugar is for the afternoon coffee? In mamy hospitals they use to serve a little cake sweets for the afternoon with the lunch tray. Though I'd think there would be sugar at the coffee machine along with milk amd stuff. Other than that, non idea about the sugar 🤷
Another thing you can do is looking for "your Midwife". In this case "your Midwife" would support you with birth preparation courses, in the hospital and afterwards at home.
If there are more pregnant couples blog that the costs for the giving birth is € 0,00 (the health insurance pays everything) we will have a giving birth tourism from the US, because flight + giving birth + costs for the father in spe are by far less than giving birth in the US ( +- USD 10,000)
That's just ill-informed. Not arguing it isn't cheaper in Germany (out-of-pocket costs, because Germans do pay for health insurance that is more expensive generally and taxes are significantly more expensive generally), but out-of-pocket costs for births in the US are around $2,000 with it varying greatly across the country (but no state comes close to $10,000+ in out-of-pocket costs). Source: healthcostinstitute.org/hcci-research/birthing-people-in-the-u-s-pay-nearly-2-000-out-of-pocket-to-have-a-baby Only to say, it is more expensive to go to Germany and give birth than to just stay in the US and give birth 😂
When I gave birth in UK to my first child (a daughter) in 1985 we completed a menu sheet each day for the following day - so my first day I was given what a person the previous day had chosen and the day after I was discharged someone will have been given what I had chosen - all freshly cooked in the hospital kitchens - I think now its all prepared microwave meals or sandwiches I spent 9 days in hospital and then had a community midwife visit me until baby was 28 days old it tapers off as the child grows and then a health visitor took over and visited to check milestones were being met (babbling crawling holding things walking etc) and there was also a baby clinic at a local church where I took her to be weighed monthly and could also pick up baby milk using milk tokens - as I was breastfeeding I used mine to pay the milkman for cows milk 👍
My wife had a c-section twice. The doctor took care of the c-section and my wife, the midwife, took care of the baby. In addition, a nurse was present who gave the doctor the instruments. The midwife made sure that the baby could breathe and did the first examination of the baby's health.
I'm software developer and the thing with legacy names would be, when to not use it, or how to address you. Every letter would be addressed to "Dear Mr. Lehman IV." I guess it's just unusual to see, the software can handle it. It's already hard to distinguish second first names (probably wrong english) ? Sometimes the second name is commonly used, sometimes it's just for private use, sometimes it's the initial. Worldwide naming and application of names in different situations is quiet difficult.
What an awesome video and a nice haircut as well. My family and i got the popcorn out and watched this video about three days ago and I had just realized that I had not commented yet lol. I am so glad that everything had worked out with the midwife aa well as the hospital. Sorry to hear that the food wasn't "awesome" while yall had stayed in the family room. As you know my food experience at the hospital in Garmisch was no less than steller and I had figured that it would be the same across the board. Anyways, I am glad that Baby Donny and all are doing well. We are so happy for yall here in Georgia . We can't wait to see Baby Donald grow. BTW, yall are glowing in this video :).
Have you ever had a GOOD hospital meal?? 😂
Never! 😂
Last Time i was in a Hospital i was 3 y o. So my answer ist no
Never been in a hospital, so I haven’t
I heard rumors about good hospital meals - but my experience is mostly limited to Vivantes hospitals, so no.
yes but that was a psychatric thing ( burnout) they had a buffet for dinner and breakfast and you could choose from 4 options for lunch it was in fact pretty good
but i also had some stuff that i wozuld not feed pigs with ( they woult not eat it )
In Dänemark the midwife is the specialist, too. And their education is intense and long. Almost as long as the doctor.
The doctor comes at the scene in case of abnormal situation, c-sections etc.
Historically it's more the experienced woman from the village. And they can take more time, cause they are cheaper than a doctor - but more specialized than a nurse.
I'm just blown away from the high mother and baby death rates in the US(the highest in the western world). It just show that good care, public health insurance and maternity leave like you experienced in Germany can save many lives.
Yes. I think in US it is the High amount of Home delivery where it takes longer to get a doctor if anything goes wrong. Of course costs are one of the reasons for taking the decision to do a home delivery.
To be fair USA is the 3rd world country of all first world countries
@@AATproduceryou wish...
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Very interessting! In Germany it's expensive to have a home birth.
For a german, it's interesting hearing you talk about "delivery" all the time, instead of birth. Sounds like putting the mother in the role of a delivery boy.
It is like taking about "Entbindung" instead of "Geburt". "Der Arzt, der mich entbunden hat". It is an old fashioned, male focussed view on births.
@@ladyalexandra2980 Except Entbindung isn't used for any other context.
@@holger_p it is used in another context. It means to set someone free from something. Like jemanden von der Schweigepflicht entbinden. Means to Release someone from confidentiality. Overall its mostly a release from a obligation or burden
@@abceinhornchen That's a very formal application and not part of daily language.
Sure, the baby is also a burden, you get rid of.
@@holger_p It is. "Jemanden von den Pflichten entbinden" - it just means something totally different.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! Baby gesund, Mama wohlauf und Papa überglücklich - einfach toll! Genießt die Zeit!
Har har har ... "genießen"? Nachts vom Geschrei aufwachen, Windeln wechseln ... usw. ? Nur Masochisten "genießen" dies.
Hey, I‘m a German ObGyn doctor working in obstetrics daily. Feel free to ask me anything in response to this comment.
Some input by me:
We are generally very welcoming towards epidurals. Sometimes, there are situations where we just know it makes no sense. For example, if you wish to deliver under water. Or when the baby is just about to come.
Sorry to hear about the bismal food, which looks like what I saw in hospitals like 10 years ago. Trust me, there are much better ones out there 😬
MOIN FINDEST DU DAS ESSEN SCHEIßE WEIL ICH MIT MEINEM ESSEN IM KRANKENHAUS ZUFRIEDEN BIN
@@erik-nw2vs warum caps lock?
@@carstekoch maybe it (rgb pc) is afraid of not being heard?
@@nielsdebakker3283 *they are, not it is ;)
What does a pediatric neonatologist do in Germany?
Ok, i work in german hospitals for the last 20 yrs. so some things towards the food:
If you cook food in a german Hospital, you have to heat everything to 100° C to secure, that theres no contermination on the food of any kind. So Pasta is usually overcooked, potatoes are overcooked and so on.
Everythings cooks way longer, than you would do at home.
Also, the food arives at the ward mostly 30-60 minutes before serving. So anything crunchy will be steamed in its own juices and become soggy.
The Omlett with the salted potatoes and the spinach is btw. a typical german meal i grew up with as a kid.
Oh, and the sugar is for the tea youre goin to make yourself for lunch ^^
My wife and I split our Elternzeit after our son was born - so each of us had seven months with him at home, me (obviously) having the later 7. It has been a really great experience I can highly recommend. Being there 24/7 when he started to conquer his world from sitting up over the first steps up to the "Eingewöhnung" at the Kindergarten was quite a voyage :)
Really a good idea i will adopt this for myself to whenever it will be 👌
When I was at college in the US, I needed a root canal done. As it turned out my mandatory US insurance only covered “accidents”.
It was cheaper to fly to Germany and back, and get it done for free. Paying, what, around 30k for a birth? Skin contact afterwards (holding it) an extra fee? That’s just unimaginable to me. 🤯
Its unimaginable because it is greatly exaggerated. No one pays that and most people have insurance that covers nearly all of it. There are poor people in America who have no insurance that are having babies everyday. You honestly think people pay $30000 to have a baby. As for your tooth did you have Dental insurance. If you did it would have covered the cost of your root canal.
@@bengaljam4550 No this people without insurance have their babies without proper care in a hospital. It is as simple as that.
@@andreashorn9638 No. They would get the same care as anyone else even if they have no insurance. . You are greatly mistaken.
@@bengaljam4550 BS, then hundreds of americans I talked to here in the Ramstein do not support your opinion. And every documentation about healthcare in the US tells otherwise. Even Americans with insurance often avoid going to gthe doctor or hospitals, because of the exta cost.
@@andreashorn9638 Oh yes. Ramstein. I was stationed at Sembach Air Base in the early 80's. Would like to go back someday and see how the area has changed. AS far as healthcare in America all I can add is that is not how it has been for me and the people I know here. It's a country of 350 million people. Most people have insurance. I am sure you can find instances of the health care system and its failures. As far as avoiding going to the hospital. I avoid it too. Not because of the costs but because it is a hassle. In America if you go to the hospital everyone wants a piece of the pie. Show up with a broken finger and they will do X-rays and a surgeon will say it needs to be surgically repaired. Then a physical therapist will tell you you need 9 weeks of physical therapy. Then you have to take time off from work. I will go if I truly need it but if I can heal at home I will. All I am saying is most of what I am hearing on these posts is for the most part exaggeration. Not saying it can't happen. All these posts of people trying to compare Germany and America is crazy. You can't compare two countries with complete different set of values and population. America is very diverse with a lot of differing viewpoints. Having a German style healthcare would be nice in America i agree but people would abuse it. Same people would show up everyday with different ailments. Drug abusers and homeless.
Just an aside regarding food: I stayed in a Swedish hospital for 10 days and I GAINED weight. The food was fantastic. Plus in Sweden, if you are mobile, you join other patients in a dining room, so you have some social contact. We were served breakfast, lunch and dinner plus snacks (pastry or sandwiches) three times a day.
bei meinem letzten Krankenhausaufenthalt, habe ich abgenommen. 11 Tage 3 Implantate in meinem Knie - und ich wog 8 KG weniger.
Es gab fast nur "Kinderteller" . . . . 😂😂😂
The sugger is for Tea. On every floor in Hospitals in germany are tea kitchens where you can get hot water and tea bags or sometimes Coffee. ;)
Believe me. You saved him a lot of problems by dropping the IV. I work in IT and all databases I deal with only have the option to save first and last names when it comes to storing usernames, and sometimes those just have to match their legal names to perform certain operations. Names with IV, however, often cannot be entered into a lot of applications because this is considered an incorrect entry and then he would be stuck.
That's gotta be the most lame excuse. How about fixing that junk software??? Yes, I work in this space and know what I'm talking about.
@@tomb5372 I can't do anything about it, because I have to collect data that is required by German law and I have to send it to an interface of a government webservice.
According to their specification they only accept the first and last name and declare characters like IV as invalid. So i have to prevent users from entering them into my website.
Also. My users are required by law to enter their data into my website if they want to work in a specific field in Germany. So it's not an optional thing they can do. It's mandatory.
Germany simply does not support having a name suffix.
@@d34d10ck I'm not saying you personally have to. Germany's IT is so incredibly backwards and poorly done, it's just an embarrassment. Yes, I am German :P
@@tomb5372 While I would agree that our IT is in serious need of improvement, I would argue that naming a child after yourself and adding a number is not a thing( or at least very uncommon) in Germany, and that a change to those IT systems because of that would be waste of tax payers' money.
@@tomb5372 Tja bevor du dich über Software beschwerst - zu Recht oder Unrecht ist hier irrelevant - solltest du dich vielleicht erst mal erkundigen, ob es dafür nicht auch möglicherweise andere Gründe geben kann...was hier übrigens der Fall ist.
Namensbeigaben wie der Dritte (dargestellt als III) oder in diesem Fall der Vierte (IV) sind in Deutschland seit Abschaffung der Adelsprivilegien nach dem ersten Weltkrieg nicht mehr erlaubt. iese Art der Namesngebung ist historisch gesehen direkt verknüpft mit dem Adel (übrigens nicht nur in Deutschland, sondern praktisch in ganz Europa). In Deutschland sind nur noch die Namenszusätze "von" und/oder "zu" erlaubt - in Österreich ist nicht einmal das mehr erlaubt.
In beiden Ländern geht das zurück auf die Niederlage im Ersten Weltkrieg und die darauf folgende Abschaffung der Monarchie und der Privilegien des Adels in 1919.
Also nicht immer alles auf "rückständige IT" oder was dir auch immer sonst so einfällt schieben. Es macht übrigens keinen Sinn, ein IT-System so einzurichten, dass es auch Eingaben zulässt, die aufgrund der Rechtslage (und nicht wegen technischer Gründe) unzulässig sind.
Und bevor du nun sagst, dass man das dann doch einfach nachträglich korrigieren könnte, wenn fälschlicherweise doch mal ein unzulässiger Namenszusatz eingetragen worden sein sollte bei einer Software, die so konfiguriert ist, dass diese Eingabe möglich wäre - nein, dass kann man nicht. Wir reden hier von offiziellen Dokumenten; daran einfach Änderungen vorzunehmen erfüllt den Tatbestand der Urkundenfälschung und ist somit eine Straftat.
I think we have different understandings of how Leacy Names work and that's why our authorities are struggling with that. You often have an inherited name here - especially with old farming families. Since 1615, for example, the first son has been named Xaver, because the first free farmer in the family was called Xavier. But at any given point in history you have a maximum of four Xaviers on the farm and for that the first of the four has to get really old. People can easily tell these four people apart, not only because of age but also because a different middle name is often given or because and in many areas it is also common to use the farm name as the name for the actual farm owner in the family. So it may be that your name is Xaver Clemens Maria Oberhuber on paper, and you were called Clemens as a child, everyone in the village addresses you as Hollerer because your farm is Hof Holler. ... and if you then also have a striking physical feature - like red hair - and a special knack for horses, people will call you Hollerer Ross Fuchs and not as Xaver Oberhuber XVI. ... and when your mother calls for you with your full official name, you know your in trouble.
I think thats just your own experience.
"...when your mother calls for you with your full official name, you know you're in trouble". That must be true in any culture. It was in mine.
True, my great-grandfather, my grandfather, the oldest of my uncles and his oldest son all have the same first name, but different middle names. I never new, that you would number them. I always thought that senior and junior in articles was just an extra that was written to make it clearer, but not something that was in official documents.
Like whoever was the eldest would be named senior and when senior died there would be another senior.
where in the world is that? i was raised in a small german Village we did not have that.
How does this work in the US? The first person in a family with a given name is automatically called "senior", in case his son will also get the same name? Or do you add the "senior" when the son is born?
As someone working at a german hospital and sometimes eating the same lunch as the patients, the food can be quite hit and miss. Some dishes can be quite good, some are damn bland. But it might be that the quality in our hospital isn't too bad.
I'm a German and my wife (a Filipina) had our 3 kids in a German hospital.
- about doctors involvement - yes, midwifes run the show in the delivery room, but the doctor is superior. If problems arise during birth, both the midwife and the doctor switch roles. This means the doctor or his team take over while the midwife supports it. Usually difficulties can be discovered prior to delivery, thus certain preparitions are made. This includes pediatricians and necessary NICU units - if that may be necessary. Thus - the way it goes - is usually decided upon normal delivery or problems being suspected.
BTW midwifes are considered coaches for anything concerning late stage pregnancy and first period at home. If a lady has no experienced female support, midwives offer such support. But those midwifes are not bound to a hospital. Rather they are bound to the area they are serving. (Which makes it a different set of midwifes.)
- about procing - usually being in a hospital (normal rooms up to 3 people) will be paid for by our health insurance. But we have to pay a prescription fee of about 10 Euro. I don't recall that for the delivery. Child birth is something very special - even for insurance - thus it could be that the prescription fee is not requested in this case.
- family room - We didn't have that. In fact I was excluded from the waiting area in the maternity ward. I was only allowed to join my wife in the delivery room when delivery was closing in. This was done in order not to upset the other ladies in preparation of their birthing. Just after birth the newborn is taken away for a few hours in order to give the exhausted lady some really needed rest. (My experience is 30 years ago. There might have been some changes.)
- food - yes, it is not the best. But you should remember that many people have diatary requirements. A cantina cannot fullfill such requirements. Thus you use the lowest common ground. The food you get should not cause any health problems. The sugar, I don't understand. Usually that is added for the tea - no more. Mineral water and tea should have been available in abundance - without extra fee.
Often relatives bring along fruits or small bakery stuff to supplement the food. Usually you know by then which food you can eat without causing a problem for mother and / or child.
- prisoner - If you want to stay and especially for the ladies after a long delivery, resting is paramount. But for everyone going to a hospital I would suggest, bringing along an e-reader, a tablet or a laptop (tethering to your cellphone should be possible where an internet connection is NOT provided). BTW the TV is there for a reason. Usually there is a spot in the hospital wher you can buy snacks and magazines (not a full spread, but at least something). Especially if you are a busy person, get something along to keep yourself busy.
- naming rules - They really exist to prevent names that may cause harassment in the kid's later life. But usually foreigners are not fully subjected to German laws. Often the city office is NOT fully schooled in the options. (The office doing it is the "Standesamt" where you declare birth, marry or get a death certificate.) Each state in Germany has a main office for this at the state capital - where the other offices ask for help (usually). If the office refuses your wishes, you can ask for a later change by court. In your case military US offices might help those local German offices to see the light. As you seem not to stay in Germany for the rest of your life, they should have been more lenient toeards the customs of your own country.
- citizenship - Yes, you are right about your kid. And NO you are wrong about dual citizenship. According to German law kids can have the citizenship of their parents if all laws (German and foreign country) allow it. I have already mentioned that my kids had a German father and a Phillipine mother. Thus my kids inherited the German AND the Filipino citizenship. France allows the same. Dual citizenship is not common, but it is not impossible. As you mentioned German law recognizes citizenship according ancestry.
- government benefits - this "parental holiday" (my naming) is currently up to 3 years. But you don't know additional benefits. I'm an insurance guy and thus I will fill you in for those. In the old age pension insurance the mother will currently get 3 years of paid old age pension insurance. This is given to every mother even if she does NOT take the holiday. An additional 10 years are given for education and increasing the pension. That is not improving that much, but it is added because mostly ladies have to restrict themselves in their jobs for about 10 years if they care for their children. Working half a day is such a restriction. This benefit is thought as some exchange for this care that you provide. This rules were inacted retrospectively. Thus my mom (currently 92 years old - kids from 1956 to 1962) gained a higher pension as well. Birthing children is not easy and giving care is not easy either. Usually this information is automatically passed via the city office to the old age pension office - thus you don't even know that it is done (but I'm an insurance guy and thus I knew. I prepared the pension applications for my parents as well.)
- children care or Kindergarten - usually kids are placed in such care with age 3. If you need somebody before that you organize privately something called Tagesmütter. Something like a professional grandmum but with papers allowing her to do it. Most states have declared that having a place for your kid is a fundamental right which you can claim. But it is best to walk to such a place as soon as possible and explain: "Hey I live there and I want my kid to be with you in xx months." Thus you will be on the list. Should be NO problem. My 3 kids were treated that way. School is something that the local town invites you and the kids for. Remember you are a registered citizen in your town and thus is your kid.
- stroller - we have some where the baby seat of the car could be used instead of a full bed. For your purpose that seemed to have been a better solution. On the other hand the version you have shown, the bed can be replaced by a seat.
I have been to the Philippines often and my kids were at least 18 months when we did that. I have experienced younger kids on planes, they were just crying and refused to be calmed down. They simply cannot stand the environment. That may be no problem if your kid is used to noise and sleeps easily. Older kids can be made busy with lot of things, but being 2 parents helped a lot. As we have been flying with Asian airlines mostly, the support via the female staff was extraordinary. They just LOVE kids.
I'll post this now and will add some more details as I continue to watch your video. I try to be most accurate, but remember my memories are from 20 to 30 years ago. Medicine and procedings may have changed. I will add if I see any changes that are important. - I did not see big changes and I added my experience and knowledge.
Wrong. In Germany the doctor is NOT superior during birth. It is the midwife who is in control. For instance she determines whether a caesarian birth is necessary.
My daughter is a midwife and delivered more than 1000 babies. And during the normal birth a doctor was never in control.
@@templer1307 That is not how I experienced it. The doctor is not the only specialist in the room and he takes over as soon as problems arise. He may not run the show in normal situations but he was always in the room. He has the superior education. He can do more than a midwife.
And nobody told me differently. My wife was always treated by a team of which midwife AND a doctor were members. I was there everytime as well.
As a German that is used to the fact that the most important and basic things get covered by our insurance I would be really interested what you have to pay in the US.
In the U.S. it all depends on the type of insurance, about half of births are $0. Some can be a few hundred some can be thousands.
Australian here. Both babies delivered by my partner - with midwife helping. No doctor present as they weren't needed. My pre-natal care was provided by the midwives at the hospital so we knew them. Public hospital - has a queen sized bed, ensuite with a birthing pool. No epidural or medicalised procedures. The whole process occurred in the same room and I stayed for 4 days with the first bub, 1 with the second. I could have had interventions had I wanted to, but I didn't want to. Didn't pay a cent. Beautiful experience.
Congratulations! I had a severe heart attack 3 months ago, stayed 5 days in intensive care and another 2 normal. The food was actually way better than I expected, the whole week through. Btw. the Schnitzel you mentioned was actually a chicken escalope ("Hähnchenschnitzel"). No wonder it wasn't at all like a typical Schnitzel.
Congratulations to all three of you.
Heart attack here too, almost same time. But only 4 days ICU. How good was your rehab?
The food in hospital was crap. They centralized the preparing of food for all hospitals in my region (~1 Mio pop.) and it was quite annoying. Very dry bread, cheap toppings. The highlight of the day was the coffee and cake each afternoon. The coffee in general was quite good.
For the delivery: my son is 21 now but I can remember the day of his birth very well. My wife was very much afraid of that day, she had her first son born in GDR with rude doctors and ruder midwifes. All in all it was a pleasant experience for both of us, but she bit me in the ellbows bend at one of the last contractions so the doctor had to look over me, too ;-)
Both had to stay more than a week, because my son developed a jaundice, so the doctors decided to take care a little bit longer. Sad to say I had no chance to stay with her, startet on a new job a few weeks before the birth and had only a single day off.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch !! Alles Gute Für Die Zukunft Eurer kleinen Familie !
I'm pregnant myself at the moment (5th month) and I'm really excited about what the experience will be like. I'm 23, my partner is younger than me and it's my first baby. But we're both looking forward to receiving our sweet little human and I can only imagine how it will feel holding him or her in my arms for the first time, realising 'This is my baby and I'm his mom' 😍♥️
8:30 No, you can't say that in general. Hospital food is different in every hospital and in some it is bad and in some good. Then you have to remember that in a hospital they have to cook for many clients and most of them have to follow diets that don't allow the use of spices. For example most people with cardiac and circulatory illnesses are not allowed much salt. That is why I always have a travel set of spices with me when I'm in hospital. It has the diameter of a soda can and half the height and has 6 compartments with different common spices like salt, pepper, paprika,....
And btw - for the money they want in an American hospital it should a high class menu like from a restaurant with Guide Michelin stars.
Back in 1984 , I was a military wife. Our baby was born in a german hospital due to him being a premie. Let me tell you that was a trip!! At that time my son was granted dual citizenship. I could write a book on that experience. LOL!
From the comments I thought you’d tried to name your baby Dumbledore or IV (first name)! Glad I watched the whole video 😂 The legacy name thing isn’t really a thing in the UK either. It’s not unusual for you to be called James McDonald (for example) and your father, grandfather, great grandfather etc etc to have been called the same, but we don’t number it. I’m not sure if numbered titles even get registered on the birth certificate as a title is often what you inherit rather than born with. I can understand the confusion from the German authorities (a bit annoying that it’s clearly possible on the
system though considering your own driving license has it!).
Congratulations to you both!
Actually I am very surprised that the "III" appears on German legal documents at all. It is just not a thing here, since democracy abolished nobility in the 1920's.
I think in Germany the birth of the baby is more a personal thing so that's why the lack of staff,or lack of involvement. I think a lot of women give birth at home and just have an overall better understanding of birth.. I feel like in the US people perceive it as some kind of service they need to receive,so they want as much service as possible,as if it's not something what you need to be doing on your own(since it is clearly a child emerging out from your insides) My birthing experience in Germany was not nice at all,but my first baby I delivered at home in the Netherlands and that one went much better,it was very calm and just perfect. In Germany I found myself in a hospital where only one person spoke english and it was a male nurse,and sadly at the time i was new in the country so i spoke 0 german and i also requested no male attendees because of my other health conditions..I suffered complications so there was a bunch of people in the DR and also it a was a teaching hospital so they tried to usher some 12 students into the room which was denied by me and that somehow didnt help me since they were upset that they couldn't teach their class as I was struggling to deliver my baby... so it really sucked,but it was still much better than what I would be receiving for care in my home country.
It all starts with the hospital meal. Nobody said having kids is easy.😂
haha, it was shocking for sure 😅
Congrats on the baby!
Well, in my experience hospital food in Germany isn't bad at all. I've been to the hospital twice so far and I loved the food.
Depends heavily on the hospital. It's definitely gotten worse over the last years. More and more hospitals don't prepare their own food anymore to save money. It is delivered by external companies, warmed up and then it's usually awful.
Yeah, it really depends on the hospital. Usually it's okay, but there are high and lows also.
Congratulations, I really hope that all the three of you are happy (and healthy, of course)
We are all very happy and healthy at the moment! Thanks so much 😊
to my understanding the only things we paid for in terms of our third baby's birth in germany was the family room. (72€ a night for 3 nights). That was it. TOTALLY worth it.
Legacy names are just not a thing anymore in Germany. A few decades ago it was still common to name your firstborn son the same as the father (and probably the grandfather), but even in those cases there were never any numerals involved. And nowadays that tradition is pretty much dead.
As I gave birth to my two sons, 1979 and 1981, I stayed in the hospital for 10 days. For a cesarean birth it was up to 14 days. So nowadays it is much shorter. What they told me was it takes time to recuperate and if I went home I wouldn't get the rest I needed for recuperating completely, as I would start doing chores, etc. I must confess I really loved the time of my second birth, as I had my mom and my mother in law taking care of my oldest child. Just imagine, 10 days resting, reading and listening to music in my old cassette recorder. Lovely!!!!
From a foreigner who also gave birth in Germany, check those Elternzeit dates... and I live in a relatively quiet city, and waited too long to look for a Kitta.. when she was 3 months old, and was saved by the government (coz childcare is a right)
Hospital food is interesting in the US. We had our first child in city A, hospital food was fabulous. Food you'd get in an upscale hotel. Just mind blowing. Wife had some complications so we had to stay a day longer than normal for a c-section. We both were so glad to finally be able to get home, none of us got any sleep as my wife was constantly (every hour or two) checked upon by nurses day and night. Then, 3 years later we had our second child, same hospital chain but now in city B (same state) as we had moved. Absolutely horrible food, barely edible. Luckily, no complications this time and she was allowed to go home a day earlier than normal. Also didn't get much sleep, so we were glad to be able to go home as early as possible. My wife did hire a midwife for the second child as she wanted a VBAC, we had to pay ourselves but it was well worth it. This was 10 years ago.
Keep in mind: Giving birth is a very normal, natural process. For hundred thousand of years babies were born without anyone overseeing the process or maybe just relatives or the village eldest. Of course there are risks but unless there is an emergency situation, that's less than one out of hundred cases, I fail to see the requirement for having a doctor being actively involved in that process; it's actually not a medical process.
LOL, dying is a very normal, natural process. Midwives are also mentioned in the old testament of the bible, therefore must have been existent since at least 6th-5th century BC, so for at least 7-8K years.Maternity dying rates have dropped in industrial countries since the beginning of the 20th century from 300 per 100,000 to 8-12 nowadays. That means .3 percent of all Births ended in death without medical attendance. That does not include mothers being badly injured or handicapped after birth. BTW in 2017 the mother mortality rate was 308 in Ghana.
IDK, what your emergenxy situation statistic comes from. But less than 1 per 100 cases is actually a lot, considering women are giving birth more than twice in their life time, on average.That is saying every 50th woman is disposable.
And getting in a car accident is a natural process, too. Would you rather have it in the countryside or as close to medical care as possible?
@@anka2978 If the death-to-birth rate would have been one or less, mankind would have died out, so apparently this has never been the case, not even 50.000 years ago. And 0.3% is less than 1 out of 100, correct? Well, that's what I said. Further keep in mind that the world has never been equally developed and while in some parts people knew that the world is a globe and where able to calculate its diameter, in other parts people didn't even have developed handwriting yet, so what you just did is to generalize from a very tiny part of the world onto the entire rest.
@@xcoder1122 I think you are confusing the maths here. Death to birth rat is death/birth. If 3 out of 1000 people die during birth it is (3/1000 = 0.3) and that is smaller than 1. If there are two deaths per birth it is (2/1 = 2 ) >1. I also wasn't arguing against your number, I was trying to make you see, that 1% is a lot. 0.6 from my numbers (0.3 death rate x 2), would still be enough to justify medical attendance during the birthing process.
And I fail to see, where I was generalizing out of context. My point was with proper medical attendance, the death to birth rate decreased significantly. I simply compared numbers from former just midwife attendance, to scarce medical attendance, to good medical attendance.
@@anka2978 I said less than 1 out of 100 cases will have any complications and you say 3 out of 1000 will die, which perfectly matches my number, as 3 out of 1000 is below 1 out of 100 and note that I said complications, not death. Not all complications lead to death.
Congratulations to you both, giving birth system in the UK is same with Germany. Midwife in charge of delivery. Consultant or OB GYN only come if complications or C section needed.
Congratulations! so happy for you. Donni3 your hair looks great!
Thanks so much, Kim! For the congrats on our baby and on the hair compliment 😊
Congratulations! I had good luck, because I had the option to give birth in a "geburtshaus".
This is medical house leaded by midwife without any doctors. If there are doctors needed you will be transferred to the next hospital. But this happens rarely because there are strict rules for a geburtshaus to accept births. Eg it must be around the birthdate, if you're much too early or much too late you are not allowed to stay in a geburtshaus. The same is with pregnancy-diabetes or high blood pressure, so the risk of complications is minimized.
For me this was a really good experience. I felt assisted, encouraged and very safe. I was afraid, that when I am in hospital and everything is fine with my birthing process, that no one takes care of me, because there is a c-section to do and in the next room declines a woman, or what ever catastrophe happens so no one has time for a "normal and boring" birth. I wished for someone experienced in giving birth stays by my side the whole time so I don't have to be afraid of whatever to come.
And my wishs came true. My midwifes name was Antje and she stayed with me, told me I am doing well, everything is fine and so on.
And: the food was great!
Sorry to hear about the food. All my experiences in Swiss hospitals, along with those of my wife and our daughter (who's a doctor) have been, that the food quality was between good and very good. Emminently edible. I even missed the ordering time for my first breakfast and lunch as I was delivered to the hospital at 3 am and was in Angioplasty until around 5 am. So they asked me what I wanted which for breakfast a good hour later than normal was more than I could eat after a heart attack. Lunch, then I ordered on-the-fly on the light side. Dinner then was "normal" and was light because ... in Switzerland the main meal is at lunch.
BTW - pricing: My total bill for 5 days in the hospital, 2 of those were in intensive care was CHF 16,600. The insurance paid for EVERYTHING except for the deductible for that year. Since I'd had quite a few appointments and such during the year, this was low. Plus there was a CHF 15.-/day "solidarity charge" to help defray the costs of the rare patients who do not have insurance - mostly foreign tourists. (No one is refused care for not having insurance) So my out of pocket costs were a grand total of CHF 149.-
Language: No problems. My German is fluent, but many doctors seemed to want to practice English. So I complied. In fact, I even had to say that they could speak Swiss dialect, inasmuch as I understand that too, but it's kind of a natural reaction, that if a Swiss person hears someone speaking High German, the reply in Swiss High German.
Congrats and all the best to the three of you.
First Things First: the best Magicuser ist of course Rincewind 😛
About that dual citizenship Thing, and you might have covered this at some time, while Germany generally does not Accept dual citizenship, there are (Lots of) exceptions. For example a friend of mine was born in Texas, while her (german) parents worked there. She lived in Texas for about 2 years and the Family moved back to Germany. She has German as well as US citizenship, as she was born to german parents, but on US soil.
So consequently although she lives, works and pays taxes in Germany, she has to fill out a crapload of IRS paperwok every year.
Lol, you do realise the reason Rincewind has wizzard on his hat is because he can’t spell?
The best magic user is of course Esme Weatherwax!
@@ballagh yeah, I do, still he is the best 😛
As you go out walking and maybe hiking a lot, did you consider getting a baby-sling or a special kind of rucksack to carry the child in? It is way more convenient than having to push a stroller or pram through the woods and much easier to travel by bus or train.
Congratulations to your new baby boy! Glad to hear that it went well!!
Your experiencesoundsike mine here in Sydney, Australia. There is a midwife present at birth here as she was with you. All midwives were amazingly supportive and calm. We also were left alone for stretches of time, but it was clear that she would come in if called. I stayed at hospital between 10 hours and 7 days after giving birth, due to baby needingtobein NICU. Food varied with each child- my husband brought me take away food once a day. Costs at each birth: we had to pay for parking. Unfortunately no midwife visits here, that would have been great! Elternzeit und -geld leider nicht mit Deutschland zu vergleichen.
Are your parents visiting soon? They must be keen to meet your little one. BTW: firstborn boys often were given the same first name as their dad in the past in Germany, with a different middle name. Not very common anymore.
Dumbledore of course
Swede here, my partner and I had our first child born in week 29+3 last November (2023) with an emergency c-section after my partner developed preeclampsia. We both had to stay at the local Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) for about a month. We later transferred to the Neonatal Care Unit (NCU) for another 2 months, totaling a bit over 3 months in the hospital and away from work.
I could not begin to imagine the amount of stress if we had to pay for that stay and not get our income at least almost covered by the national insurance fund. My partner also had what we call pregnancy insurance that gave her additional monetary means above the national insurance fund.
Here all healthcare services are free for everyone under the age of 18 and in the end, it cost us nothing out of pocket, however since I earn more than the national insurance fund covers I lost about 15% of my monthly earnings.
Since many Americans always default to either "wait time" or "taxes", last year (2023) the sum of ALL taxes ended up at just under $22,000, Remember that is income tax, communal tax, and ALL other tax forms we have here.
Midwife’s also do the care all the time during pregnancy. I appreciated this a lot, because it is much more human than a doctor taking care of pregnancy.
The doctor will only help if it’s a medical emergency and the midwife assists the mother for several weeks after birth and that’s free of charge.
16:48 the pictures 😁
Congratulations on the arrival of Donald IV (!) aka Passport Three. 😃
Hi y'all,
congrats! I'm so happy everything went fine.
Hospital food - it depends on the hospital you're staying in. I had a c-section 23 years ago in Mannheim Klinikum (I chose this particular hospital bc I had a risk pregnancy with twins and at that time this hospital was the only one in a 25km perimeter around my home where the neonatology was in the same hospital as the maternity ward, so I went there "just in case" sth went not to plan). They had a big buffet in the foyer of the maternity ward (like in a hotel) for breakfast with cereals, rolls, sweet buns, jam, honey, eggs, cold cuts, and cheese. Lunch and dinner were pretty good (excellent for a hospital). Westpfalzklinikum is notorious among my relatives who live not too far away from K-town for having bad food.
CU twinmama
RQOTW Neither - it's Vilgefortz von Roggeveen, it took a witcher, a sorceress, and a higher vampire to defeat him... (sorry for any spoilers of the novels)
In Austria (and in Germany, too) its the mother, who delivers the baby ;-) Maybe thats why, epidurals are not so popular.
Allerherzlichsten Glückwunsch an Euch 3! Und Gandalf - gar keine Frage!
Firstly - congratulations to the new, healthy sunshine in your life.👶As for prices, everything comes with a cost. The highest cost you will have in the near future is not so much about money, but is associated with little sleep at night. So no consistent sleep for several hours. And you will have to face it, neither of the two wizards will be able to help you with this. 🤗
Gandalf because I reaaaal, like the actor
One of the practical thing about the three days in hospital is, I think, that
A) first doctors visits for mom and Baby (U1 and when I remrmber correctly also U2) are there. So you don't have to drive somewherr else and be comfortable
B) whrn there are complications in the first days they can immediatily react
My daughter i.e. had lung problems vut it just appeared on her second day and so they reacted fast enough and she survived
C) you can learn. These first days are perfect for asking last questions about babycare and so on.
👍🏻❤️🥳herzliche Glückwünsche 🎊🍾🎈
Ich freu mich für euch 👍🏻Yippeeh!!!!
VIELEN DANK 😊😊
Regarding the food in a hospital in Germany: you are in a hospital, not a hotel.
The food is there to keep you healthy and not starving and on top of it the food has to be cheap. You could have better food, but for that you would need to be in a private insurance since a private insurance is typically more willing to pay higher prices (the general insurance will pay what is needed, not some fancy stuff).
The food will keep you alive for the time that you NEED to be in hospital, but at the same time you will want to go home as soon as possible (nobody wants that you go to a hospital so that you finally get something good to eat if you normally eat some junk at home xD).
Some people need to stay in hospital for several months and most of the time they are laying in bed during that time and now imagine they would eat the normal stuff that they eat at home: they would be obese after all these months and that would be the total opposite of what the hospital wants to achieve.
The food in hospitals is just shit because hospitals want to save money on food. And the food is sometimes so bad in hospitals that if you have to stay there longer you miss out vitamins and you loose wight which can be extremely dangerous when you are already sick with a life-threatening illness.
My uncle for example got blue meat (expelled meat) in the hospital which is just dangerous.
Congratulations to all three of you! Now you have to rename the channel... 🤣
Did debate it...but think we'll stick with the original name 😂
In the UK doctors are only called if there is a medical problem.
There is only one law in Germany regarding naming:
BVerfG, 1 BvR 576/07: "(...) A limit may only be set to this right of parents to choose their first name where its exercise threatens to impair the well-being of the child. The state is […] entitled and obliged to"
If he is the 4. Donald of the Family and it anyhow matters, he automaticly will be called Donald the fourth.
That normaly only happened in old noble families of high standings - like Kings where "named" after there deeds ("Donald the Great") they would also have a numbering If ancestors had the same name. The reason was, that they needed to be distinguishable so that the people would know wich "King Donald" they where talking about, or gave them the new law, etc.
To be precise, this "nameing" is not a nameing but a "calling".
If you truly NAME your child Donald IV. it easily is considered extreamly arrogant, like you saying "My child/whole family stands above every other, they are to be seen as a Kings".
Also, the dot behind the number is extreamly (!!) important. It makes the difference of "the fourth" and "four". So without it, the name will litteraly be Donald (not "the") 4.
And it will be what he normaly would be called out loud, Donald Vier. Not "der Vierte".
I can understand where the confusion came from.
The numbering of human beeings is considered a big no no in Germany, because it objectifies a human beeing and robs him of his individuality (He isnt an individul, special beeing but only the 4. of many the same).
Worse, it has been done so for example with the jews in the 3. Reich, one of the reasons was exactly to dehumanize them, making them equal to cattle (worse even).
So yeah,... 😅 Guess your child will run into some teasing.
I think the hospital food depends on the hospital. When I stayed in Münster(westf), the food was as good as standard restaurant. I even got delicious wienerschnitzel.
I'm not sure if there is different food menu between normal patient and pregnancy.
you can actually choose your food, put breakfast and dinner together as you like it, for lunch you can choose between 2- 3 dishes, actually the sister should ask about it once a day if she forgets to speak to the sister
Can't see how it's unique having a different midwife delivering the baby as you mentioned it was a long birth...are doctors in America robots who don't need sleep and so under worked they can sit with you till the baby decides to come!!!...I know I'd prefer Germany or any country in Europe to have a baby than in America considering infant mortality is higher in the States ...but glad all went well, your second will be a breeze 👍💕
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! 💐
Gandalf, of course...that guy beat a Balrog.
Welcome to the new person. 😊
Lol, thanks 😊
Hello there,Im a german chef and I used o work in a hospital and in several pensioneers homes.Regarding the food I can tell you that the budget for it is not high and almost never changes.That means that you cannot expect high quality plus it might be even cooked somewhere else and delivered to the hospital.Unfortunately this is very common throughout germany.
The hospital food depends on the hospital. When I was last in hospital 9 years ago with a broken ankle, I could choose between four different variations of meals.
Hello, nurse speaking! I want to point out that midwives are specialists in child birth, maternity care, and can even care for a child up 28 days of age. Most, regardless of country worldwide, will carry an IBCLC along with their midwife training. Regardless if you are in the USA or European Union, midwives would be the best choice for attending the birth of your child whether it be in hospital, birthing center, or home- which are choices in most places worldwide.
You could apply for kindergarten as soon as you have the certfikcate for the child. This is by the most city's its a seperate office that is only for kids and childs. Even in small city you have problems when you want the child in the Kita from the first year.
The "Krankenhausessen" is legendary in Germany. All speek about Healthy food but i had the option between salat OR vegetabale with the klump of meat and potatos. O.K., my mother was in a hispital and the food was good, it was a katholic hospital. A lot of nuns working there.
The surname is a family name in Germany, so it is the same for the complete family. A spouse can have a double name by adding his or her birth family name. But the third or the fourth is not common.
I think, the biggest difference is not the delivering, but the prenatal and postnatal care for baby and mother.
Thats really important. Being pregnant, you go to all of the checks of pregnancy, ten, afaik, and after birth, you go to the checks for mothers and babies. For children, there are 10 checks in different stages in age, and there is a 11 one, when the child is about 16 to 18 years.
The pregnant mothers get a mutterpass, where all important things are written down ( keep it, it may be important, when later having more babies). The children get a Untersuchungsheft, where all important results of their development are written down. Keep that too.
Afaik, All examinations are mandatory. If you dont go to the examination, you will get a call from your doctor, or even a visit from the Jugendamt.
Congratulations!
I come from Germany and we were in a "birth house". Only midwives work there, no doctors. However, if problems arise during the birth that cannot be solved on site, there is a direct dial number to the hospital for transport. And our midwife got a call at midnight that we're on our way. All this at no extra cost and in nice regular rooms. No hospital or anything. This made everything feel more personal and my wife was very relaxed (of course only at the beginning). All of this was also paid for by the insurance company and our midwife accompanied us for a long time afterwards and stood by our side with everything. Maybe with the next child to the birth house, as we say so nicely here: it doesn't cost anything to look.
german gov and the insurance companies want to keep the mandatory insurance low cost and the three meals have per day a limit of around 10 euro per person or patient! its a hospital and not a five star residence, and even for the 10 euro per patient per day, the meals arent that bad considering the amount of staff, the food supply, the delivery chain needs to be paid. the 10 euro doesnt cover of course all cost and it gets subsidised or it would be more expensive but again, its about keeping it affordable as possible for the people who have to pay mandatory health insurance each month, till end of their life.
Congratulations! 🤩
Regarding the food. I’ve given birth two times now in the same German hospital. The first time, the food was terrible. Apart from it not tasting very nice, I had pregnancy diabetes, so I couldn’t eat much of the bread. That meant I didn’t have enough to eat before the night started and my delivery really started to gain momentum. Not good! The second time was so much better. The quality and quantity was better. I could ask for more if I needed to. There was a small breakfast buffet that I could also use for my Abendbrot, so I could pick out stuff I was able to eat, and get back for more if needed.
The amount of food you get as a patient is sized to cover your actual dietary needs. If you're spending most of your day in a hospital bed, you need much less energy, so the servings take that into account. Also, the food is usually fairly healthy, just not tasty. I have to admit, I've had much better hospital food than you two got, but I've seen similar, especially for people having to stay longer.
Germany allows dual citizenship for the children if the parents have been in Germany long enough. I'm American (born to two Americans, grew up partially in the states), butsome of my little siblings have dual citizenship since we've lived in Germany for over 8 years. There's just a time limit on how long the parents have to be in Germany for. Otherwise it wouldn't make much sense with multiple generations.
we also are very glad we had our baby here. Having 2 in the states and 1 in germany, this was definitely a great option and have gotten to experience great care here. Our experience in the USA was with wonderful midwives but the govt. doesn't provide this care and it costs for those who desire it.
If you as the insured person are having a baby the insurance pays you your full salary from three months before the expected delivery to six months after the actual delivery. So, the insurance company actually pays you to have a baby I stead of it costing you anything.
Dumbledore! I have had one baby in US and two in Sweden. It seems like Sweden and Germany are the same with midwives and so on. Congrats to your little one!
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! Alles Gute für Euch drei und viel Freude :-)
Congratulations!!! 🎉 I’m very happy for you both. I’m glad your delivery went well and you have a healthy baby boy.
I’m due in October with my 1st. I’ve struggled with finding a Hebamme, they seem to be on a short supply in Munich. I’ve decided to do a birth preparation class online. I was told a hospital will have midwives around the clock so it’ll be covered. For the afterbirth care I’m planning to register with an ‘emergency Hebamme’, I can only register in 34th week with them… we’ll see how it goes…
My experience with German hospital is positive (I went in for an operation), except the food… I can confirm the food was not what I expected but ok for 2 days… all the doctors spoke pretty good English, with nurses it was a different story but I’ve managed..
Concerning the English language proficiency of nurses (compared to their German), the situation is probably surely developing a bit in your favor:
1. The oldest nurses - who are probably most likely to not have learnt a lot of English, some of them even grown up in USSR or other East European countries without any English classes in school - are retiring, while young "new" nurses - just as young Germans in general - usually know more English.
2. More and more new nurses come from other countries to Germany, for example from African and Latin American countries. In my church, I know three nurses who came to Germany, a year ago, from Uganda, Namibia and Brazil.
So there is a growing number of nurses in Germany who speak English (or Spanish, Portuguese, etc.) better than German.
Congratulations to your baby , and of as to the question...of course Gandalf
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When hospitals were communal property, the meals were bad, because they wanted you out ASAP..
Since hospitals became "investements" for leeches, the meals are bad, because they are cheaper.
P.S.: Thumbs up for the Passierschein A38 reference! :)
Looks like someone knows their Asterix. :D
Das ist quatsch.... Früher war es sinnvoll die Leute so lange zu halten wie möglich, weil nach Tagen bezahlt wurde. Heute gibts einen fast festen Satz pro Erkrankungsart. Da ist Essen eben das erste woran gespart wird. wie oft auch zu Hause
A out this "Passierschein A38" part: I have a fried who had something similar. His mother is from a country where your last name changes depending on your status. For example a maried woman get an extra "a" at the end.
He was born here in german and therefor got her mothers last name. Means HE has a last name as if he was a maried woman. But even more strange is that he still has this name even though SHE isn't maried anymore. And he can't change it because it is his official default name.
17:41 Germany allows it if the citizenships are aquired by birth. Aquiring another citizenship later in live is a problem. But this may change this year.
Children of foreigners can get german citizenship by birth if one of the parents has lived in Germany legally for 8 years and has a permanent resident permit at the moment of birth.
You don't have to pay for giving birth in German Hospitals. You're insured about your health insurance. As you are working in Germany and paying your monthly insurance fees automatically with getting your salary this is all covered.
Here in the Netherlands, unless there were any complications, you're back home again just hours after delivery. If you even went to a hospital. Over 30% of births happen at home! Giving birth at a hospital without medical need is not free here.
The post partum care arrives right after. This isn't done by the midwife, but is a separate (free) service. They don't just take care of mother & child, but clean and do the laundry too.
There is a tale or saying in Germany that sugar attracts the stork. And in return for sugar the stork will bring a baby. So the sugar with the meals might just have been a practical joke.
The quality of food really depends on the hospital. The hospital where I gave birth had really good and tasty food ;)
I'm German and have 2 kids. There were so many options first (midwife, birth house, birth at home or at hospital, rooming, way of giving birth) that I nearly felt overwhelmed. In the end I had to give birth with c-section because there was no other option for me healthwise (due heart issues). So I had to go to a hospital and deliberately chose one with a prenatal station. As there are clinics specialized for women and kids, but I didn't want my baby to be on a different hospital than me in case something went wrong. And I could choice the rooming, the time staying and the aftercare. So I still could make choices.
My son was a premie so there was a lot going on there and I had prpblems breatfeeding my daughter first where they proved to be very supportive. So
me and my babies always were taken care of very well - without paying a single cent.
I certainly heard a lot of stories so these experiences are all VERY ndividual and personal and different so it's hard to make Ga general statement about giving birth "in Germay" I think.
Congratulations! 🎉
The fact that an american knows about Passierschein A38 is funny as hell!
I think the sugar is for the afternoon coffee? In mamy hospitals they use to serve a little cake sweets for the afternoon with the lunch tray. Though I'd think there would be sugar at the coffee machine along with milk amd stuff. Other than that, non idea about the sugar 🤷
Another thing you can do is looking for "your Midwife". In this case "your Midwife" would support you with birth preparation courses, in the hospital and afterwards at home.
Nice to have a new little person into this world. ♥
If there are more pregnant couples blog that the costs for the giving birth is € 0,00 (the health insurance pays everything) we will have a giving birth tourism from the US, because flight + giving birth + costs for the father in spe are by far less than giving birth in the US ( +- USD 10,000)
That's just ill-informed. Not arguing it isn't cheaper in Germany (out-of-pocket costs, because Germans do pay for health insurance that is more expensive generally and taxes are significantly more expensive generally), but out-of-pocket costs for births in the US are around $2,000 with it varying greatly across the country (but no state comes close to $10,000+ in out-of-pocket costs). Source: healthcostinstitute.org/hcci-research/birthing-people-in-the-u-s-pay-nearly-2-000-out-of-pocket-to-have-a-baby
Only to say, it is more expensive to go to Germany and give birth than to just stay in the US and give birth 😂
regarding hospital food. These depends on the hospital. I'm work in a german hospital and there the food is quite good compared to other hospitals.
When I gave birth in UK to my first child (a daughter) in 1985 we completed a menu sheet each day for the following day - so my first day I was given what a person the previous day had chosen and the day after I was discharged someone will have been given what I had chosen - all freshly cooked in the hospital kitchens - I think now its all prepared microwave meals or sandwiches
I spent 9 days in hospital and then had a community midwife visit me until baby was 28 days old it tapers off as the child grows and then a health visitor took over and visited to check milestones were being met (babbling crawling holding things walking etc) and there was also a baby clinic at a local church where I took her to be weighed monthly and could also pick up baby milk using milk tokens - as I was breastfeeding I used mine to pay the milkman for cows milk 👍
My wife had a c-section twice. The doctor took care of the c-section and my wife, the midwife, took care of the baby. In addition, a nurse was present who gave the doctor the instruments. The midwife made sure that the baby could breathe and did the first examination of the baby's health.
I'm software developer and the thing with legacy names would be, when to not use it, or how to address you. Every letter would be addressed to "Dear Mr. Lehman IV." I guess it's just unusual to see, the software can handle it. It's already hard to distinguish second first names (probably wrong english) ? Sometimes the second name is commonly used, sometimes it's just for private use, sometimes it's the initial. Worldwide naming and application of names in different situations is quiet difficult.
Passierschein A38 zeigt mir ihr habt ein gutes kulturelles Verständnis!
🤣Ich liebe die Asterix Zeichentrickfilme!😂
What an awesome video and a nice haircut as well. My family and i got the popcorn out and watched this video about three days ago and I had just realized that I had not commented yet lol. I am so glad that everything had worked out with the midwife aa well as the hospital. Sorry to hear that the food wasn't "awesome" while yall had stayed in the family room. As you know my food experience at the hospital in Garmisch was no less than steller and I had figured that it would be the same across the board. Anyways, I am glad that Baby Donny and all are doing well. We are so happy for yall here in Georgia . We can't wait to see Baby Donald grow. BTW, yall are glowing in this video :).
Congratulations on a healthy baby and a great experience!