Yes, but Vulkan is generally well supported. Nowadays it's crazy how fast old hardware gets old. Feels like yesterday that I bought an i7 6700k, but it's really weak now.
@@MichaelNROH hey man, why use Lutris to install games from outside steam? PortProton has a mode made specially for steam deck that automatically adds games to steam with the ability to configure them from the port proton interface? Is there an advantage to lutris for this?
Surely the console should be the newest PC you have, given that games are some of the most demanding things on the PC platform that most people will ever use.
The timing lmao For context, for the past 2-3 hours, I've been making plans for things one being turning the current PC I'm using into a gaming console type, so I can relax on the couch & play games with controller if I want to, I search it up cuz I wanted to see if someone else had the same idea & sure enough someone I'm subscribed to, made a video with exact title. Edit: That will be in a 2 years time, when I buy a new Gaming/Production PC, & a NAS, until then its going to stay my current gaming/production PC : ) by then I should be living in a cozy cabin I built myself.
I use regular Fedora 40 with KDE Plasma on an HP Elitedesk G3 mini as my emulation PC. It doesn't have a ton of horsepower for extreme graphics or some triple AAA games, but I'm fine with it. It plays the games that I want. I still want to do a parallel installation of Fedora on my main desktop alongside of Windows, but I've been too busy to be able to sit down and invest that sort of time in it right now. I'll get there eventually. :)
@@MichaelNROH it just got updated to use it. whatever current issues on nobara are the same on bazzite, i use the nvidia version and it worked fine for me playing games i knew i had issues before with
Did he really forget STEAM LINK -> "Steam to Steam Streaming" ? Old Laptop used as steaming your REAL PC to a TV. -> izi access to your normal PC Browser via "exit big picture mode" Also called "Wireless Display / TV" with extra steps.
By that logic I think teamviewer is also valid lol. The reason for the video is to actually use the hardware and not "cheat" by using it to remote another machine
You don't need a dedicated machine for Steam Link as basically anything can run it. I can run it on my FireTV stick with an unofficial app (since it isn't on their store)
I love Nobara but recently I had lots of issues with it on a friends PC (with Nvidia card) within the last couple of months. Nobara updater seems to do some weird stuff. Especially in the time when the last huge nvidia driver update was and when the Nobara 40 update was kinda hold back or in beta or whatever. Had to reset lots of stuff to get it running again and since then every bigger update seems to break stuff. I'll install Bazzite on her PC next. Hopefully less tech support work for me :D
I agree. Bazzite is really good; I use it on my Steam Deck OLED and apart from a few minor glitches (one of which is game specific), it really is good and more up to date than Steam OS.
@@MichaelNROH You clearly haven't tried Bazzite. There's literally an Nvidia GPU option for both GNOME & KDE Plasma. Yes, you do need to download a different ISO, but it still does work. Granted, older Nvidia GPUs aren't supported, but it should work for newer ones.
@@MichaelNROH That's ONLY for the handheld or HTPC versions. I do have an Nvidia image for both GNOME and KDE Plasma. If you want, I can send you a link.
Wirth noting that it needs to have modern vulkan support if you want an easy setup for steam gaming meaning amd gcn-based gpus and newer, nvidia maxwell - 750/900 series and newer, intel core 6th gen igpus and newer (1st gen amd gcn gpus need a kernel parameter set for it which bazzite does out of the box but not sure if nobara or any other distros does) Older gpus will need some tinkering to work for most games via proton if they are able to run them at all due to lack of modern vulkan (inteh core 4th/5th gen integrated , nvidia kepler - 600/700 series other than 750), or no vuikan (even older gpus)
Yeah, but modern is a stretch. Basically anything from 2016 should be compatible and for older hardware the big picture mode on an ulti lightweight distro is enough
Over a decade of trying off and on all of the "just works" distros, I can finally say the penguin is ready for my system with Nobara 40, and as it stands currently after a week of using it, I am not going back to windows any time soon! NVIDIA driver 555 and kernel 6.10 really fixed a lot of the desktop issues I was having. Crazy how it'll only theoretically get better from here... 🤯
Dude you should see how much stuffs RHEL put for their anaconda installer. It's so much configuration (all kinds of software, roots and normal users being configurable to the point it's really lockdown for usage in work laptops for example, etc etc) it's unreal compared to Fedora. Ofc you wouldn't wanna game on RHEL, but it is so good for sysadmins to setup stuff.
For an os i personally chose debian for my “gaming pc console thing” (thats what im calling it) Maybe not perfect but i think it works well enough for me
@tylerbarr2740 Firefox isn't as good imo. Vivaldi isn't technically FOSS (it's BSD 3 clause mixed apart from the UI, which is afaik only source available at best) but I'd trust them over Brave or Mozilla.
I have installed this nobara htpc version on my PC. But the sddm service didn't want to start. So I tried to force reboot it, and I surprised that I can use ctrl + alt + del to do it. On the second try it can boot only to Plasma Desktop, not Gamescope session. And you mention it on the video that Gamescope didn't really like the older graphics card. I'm using RX 570, does my graphic card still supported by gamescope? And now I have installed the Nobara 39 standard kde version into my machine. and try to enable the gamscope session in it, and no luck. 😢 the only reason I want use the gamscope session is because the FPS limit feature, I want my machine play the game without consume too much my electricity bill. Do you have any suggestion how to cap my fps in Linux? What specific tool that has same feature like AMD chill on Windows?
Please make a video on turning on hardware acceleration on chromium on linux for Intel gpus and cpus. Make it into three parts, 1. Amd gpu 2. Intel gpu intel gen9+ 3. Nvidia gpu (nope) 4. Intel gpu (old)
I am very interested in doing that with an ild laptop. Sadly, the keyboard is not working properly and the on button is embedded in it, so i don't really know how to turn it on without the keyboard making false inputs
I wanted to do something similar but I don't know which distro to use, any suggestions? I'm using a similar but older Acer, with an i5-3337U and a Nvidia GT 740M with 8GB RAM. I know it's old but on Windows I can play most couch co-op games just fine. The thing is the battery is dead(again), the keyboard is dead(again) so I want to move to a new laptop turning this into a console, the problem is that my GPU is kinda old and most of these SteamOS-like distros don't support it. What can I do?
I would just use a lightweight Desktop Environment like XFCE and auto start the Big Picture Mode. Maybe do some minor adjustments to the system as well, like removing all the apps not required on a typical console (management tools and all that)
@@MichaelNROH so basically just setting Steam to auto-sart when my computer logs in to desktop and that's it? Wish there was a more elegant, consol-like solution tbh but I know my hardware is old at this point 😅
@@MichaelNROH There are some hacky workarounds to get it working on igpu+dgpu hybrid laptops, other than that the nvidia driver just crashes the gamescope session from our experience.
If you want stable linux but with older softwares and drivers: Linux Mint Xfce Edition If you want latest softwares and drivers might be bit unstable(never crashed on me once tho): EndeavourOS
Does not work with Ryzen5 3600 and Nvidia GeForce 750ti. Black screen on os load. However, installed with no issues. Spent one day and gave up. Nvidia is trash.
Well, initially it worked but when I chose "Return to Game mode" it restarted and loads with white screen. What trash. I will go and turn on the PS5 now. Let's PC be a PC
@Canalebrandon The worst case is you have to reformat the drive and lose all of the data. You really have to go out of the way to screw up the hardware.
Keep in mind your "old" hardware must support Vulkan as a very minimum requirement.
Yes, but Vulkan is generally well supported. Nowadays it's crazy how fast old hardware gets old.
Feels like yesterday that I bought an i7 6700k, but it's really weak now.
@@MichaelNROH hey man, why use Lutris to install games from outside steam? PortProton has a mode made specially for steam deck that automatically adds games to steam with the ability to configure them from the port proton interface? Is there an advantage to lutris for this?
Not if you want to play games that use up to DX9, you can still use OpenGL for that.
No need for that, just add in the launch options "PROTON_USE_WINED3D=1 %command%" and you fall back to OpenGL
Surely the console should be the newest PC you have, given that games are some of the most demanding things on the PC platform that most people will ever use.
Depends what you play. If you're only interested in indie games and emulating old consoles (PS1 and below), you won't need anything too new.
@@cookieface80 But then, do you actually need a new computer either?
@@martineyles it's not new though, it's essentially reusing old machines. It would sit to dust otherwise
I think that I would stay on Keyboard and Mouse for the most recent build
2:30 me when I want to get into my uefi/bios lmao
Ungoogled chromium chads rise up.
The timing lmao
For context, for the past 2-3 hours, I've been making plans for things one being turning the current PC I'm using into a gaming console type, so I can relax on the couch & play games with controller if I want to, I search it up cuz I wanted to see if someone else had the same idea & sure enough someone I'm subscribed to, made a video with exact title.
Edit: That will be in a 2 years time, when I buy a new Gaming/Production PC, & a NAS, until then its going to stay my current gaming/production PC : )
by then I should be living in a cozy cabin I built myself.
@@Xyiter Good luck on your cabin dude
I use regular Fedora 40 with KDE Plasma on an HP Elitedesk G3 mini as my emulation PC. It doesn't have a ton of horsepower for extreme graphics or some triple AAA games, but I'm fine with it. It plays the games that I want. I still want to do a parallel installation of Fedora on my main desktop alongside of Windows, but I've been too busy to be able to sit down and invest that sort of time in it right now. I'll get there eventually. :)
For me : Old pc❌ server ✅
bazzite is really nice too
Yeah I dont like nobara cause no secure boot
Bazzite seems to not be compatible with NVIDIA at the moment
@@MichaelNROH it just got updated to use it. whatever current issues on nobara are the same on bazzite, i use the nvidia version and it worked fine for me playing games i knew i had issues before with
@@MichaelNROH it does but no console ui
@@MichaelNROH Bazzite has isos and a bazzite-nvidia image..
Did he really forget STEAM LINK -> "Steam to Steam Streaming" ?
Old Laptop used as steaming your REAL PC to a TV.
-> izi access to your normal PC Browser via "exit big picture mode"
Also called "Wireless Display / TV" with extra steps.
By that logic I think teamviewer is also valid lol. The reason for the video is to actually use the hardware and not "cheat" by using it to remote another machine
You don't need a dedicated machine for Steam Link as basically anything can run it.
I can run it on my FireTV stick with an unofficial app (since it isn't on their store)
Sunshine/Moonlight ❤️
steam link suck lol, moonlight with sunshine is waaaaaay better
@@weltsiebenhundert Steam Link picture quality is noticeably worse than Sunshine/Moonlight though. Latency I believe is worse too.
My gentoo thinkpad laughing at this.
Heyy try out the batocera Linux it's made for only playing games convert your old PC's into an gaming consoles
@@thalapathyguru586 but its mostly focused on retro roms
I knew of Nobara but I run Bazzite, because I somehow missed, that Nobara has a HTPC iso with gamescope session 🤦
I love Nobara but recently I had lots of issues with it on a friends PC (with Nvidia card) within the last couple of months. Nobara updater seems to do some weird stuff. Especially in the time when the last huge nvidia driver update was and when the Nobara 40 update was kinda hold back or in beta or whatever. Had to reset lots of stuff to get it running again and since then every bigger update seems to break stuff. I'll install Bazzite on her PC next. Hopefully less tech support work for me :D
Bazzite is not compatible with NVIDIA at all to what I'm aware. At least it says so as soon as you select it for the iso file
@@MichaelNROH Oh yeah true, I think the Steam Deck mode is not compatible. Normal Desktop mode works
Bazzite is better for a normal user
I agree. Bazzite is really good; I use it on my Steam Deck OLED and apart from a few minor glitches (one of which is game specific), it really is good and more up to date than Steam OS.
The problem with Bazzite is, that Nvidia support is not great. This is very important for many given the sheer share of GPUs.
@@MichaelNROH You clearly haven't tried Bazzite. There's literally an Nvidia GPU option for both GNOME & KDE Plasma. Yes, you do need to download a different ISO, but it still does work.
Granted, older Nvidia GPUs aren't supported, but it should work for newer ones.
@@cameronbosch1213 For the available downloads, as soon as you select NVIDIA it says unsupported
@@MichaelNROH That's ONLY for the handheld or HTPC versions. I do have an Nvidia image for both GNOME and KDE Plasma. If you want, I can send you a link.
Performance benchmarks?
Chrome on linux is crazy 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Wirth noting that it needs to have modern vulkan support if you want an easy setup for steam gaming meaning amd gcn-based gpus and newer, nvidia maxwell - 750/900 series and newer, intel core 6th gen igpus and newer (1st gen amd gcn gpus need a kernel parameter set for it which bazzite does out of the box but not sure if nobara or any other distros does)
Older gpus will need some tinkering to work for most games via proton if they are able to run them at all due to lack of modern vulkan (inteh core 4th/5th gen integrated , nvidia kepler - 600/700 series other than 750), or no vuikan (even older gpus)
Yeah, but modern is a stretch. Basically anything from 2016 should be compatible and for older hardware the big picture mode on an ulti lightweight distro is enough
I thought you were going to show us a Batocera install.
Over a decade of trying off and on all of the "just works" distros, I can finally say the penguin is ready for my system with Nobara 40, and as it stands currently after a week of using it, I am not going back to windows any time soon! NVIDIA driver 555 and kernel 6.10 really fixed a lot of the desktop issues I was having. Crazy how it'll only theoretically get better from here... 🤯
So pretty much old dell laptops with intel uhd is out of the question.
me watching this video while my new and best laptop i've ever had has the same specs
Fedora's installer anaconda is light years behind Ubuntu's. I don't know why they still don't change it
Tell me I'm weird but I quite like it
They keep delaying the new release.
Dude you should see how much stuffs RHEL put for their anaconda installer. It's so much configuration (all kinds of software, roots and normal users being configurable to the point it's really lockdown for usage in work laptops for example, etc etc) it's unreal compared to Fedora.
Ofc you wouldn't wanna game on RHEL, but it is so good for sysadmins to setup stuff.
@@opposite342 And that's the problem. There's too much stuff and in strange UI places for less experienced users to be able to use it well.
@@cameronbosch1213 i did say its amazing for sysadmin + I'm just highlighting how capable anaconda can be
For an os i personally chose debian for my “gaming pc console thing” (thats what im calling it)
Maybe not perfect but i think it works well enough for me
< Bazzite
My "old" hardware doesnt have a dedicated gpu
I made my own console UI and put it on the intel nuc 8i3beh (i bought it for about 108USD). It uses fedora btw
Beta coming soon for other devices stay tune for official support
Chrome instead of brave or vivaldi on linux is crazy
Most people don't use vivaldi on linux it's bcs a closed source software
Not a good idea true, but unfortunately most just know Chrome
Or just a Firefox based browser
@tylerbarr2740 Firefox isn't as good imo. Vivaldi isn't technically FOSS (it's BSD 3 clause mixed apart from the UI, which is afaik only source available at best) but I'd trust them over Brave or Mozilla.
Misunderstandable Instructions: My old crap pc cannot run anything (4GB Ram/Intel i5/Nvidia Quadro FX 800 or something) 😂😂😂
I have an old i7 Dell XPS L502X, doesn't seem the nvidia graphics card is supported sadly.
Thank you Michael. Im looking foward to giving this a try. How do you think it holds up against things like batocera?
well, i think you have more luck than me
steam controller would work wonder trying to scroll youtube and other stuff that is not a game
I have installed this nobara htpc version on my PC. But the sddm service didn't want to start. So I tried to force reboot it, and I surprised that I can use ctrl + alt + del to do it. On the second try it can boot only to Plasma Desktop, not Gamescope session. And you mention it on the video that Gamescope didn't really like the older graphics card. I'm using RX 570, does my graphic card still supported by gamescope?
And now I have installed the Nobara 39 standard kde version into my machine. and try to enable the gamscope session in it, and no luck. 😢
the only reason I want use the gamscope session is because the FPS limit feature, I want my machine play the game without consume too much my electricity bill. Do you have any suggestion how to cap my fps in Linux? What specific tool that has same feature like AMD chill on Windows?
Please make a video on turning on hardware acceleration on chromium on linux for Intel gpus and cpus.
Make it into three parts,
1. Amd gpu
2. Intel gpu intel gen9+
3. Nvidia gpu (nope)
4. Intel gpu (old)
Great video Brother! (:
Good video.
wait, i had that acer e1 laptop (but with god awful n2820)
my laptop only able to run most 2D games and little bit turbo dismount and universe sandbox
I would have used kodi with youtube addon instead of a web app
I am very interested in doing that with an ild laptop. Sadly, the keyboard is not working properly and the on button is embedded in it, so i don't really know how to turn it on without the keyboard making false inputs
If you manage to turn it on just one time by shorting pins on the board, then you can search on BIOS menu for “power on when psu is connected”
But i have a 1 core APU laptop laying around :P
Sounds like a brand new fileserver to me 😉
I wanted to do something similar but I don't know which distro to use, any suggestions?
I'm using a similar but older Acer, with an i5-3337U and a Nvidia GT 740M with 8GB RAM. I know it's old but on Windows I can play most couch co-op games just fine. The thing is the battery is dead(again), the keyboard is dead(again) so I want to move to a new laptop turning this into a console, the problem is that my GPU is kinda old and most of these SteamOS-like distros don't support it.
What can I do?
I would just use a lightweight Desktop Environment like XFCE and auto start the Big Picture Mode.
Maybe do some minor adjustments to the system as well, like removing all the apps not required on a typical console (management tools and all that)
@@MichaelNROH so basically just setting Steam to auto-sart when my computer logs in to desktop and that's it?
Wish there was a more elegant, consol-like solution tbh but I know my hardware is old at this point 😅
But youd still need an egpu surely
Does it work in htpc mode with an NVIDIA rtx3070 using steam big picture mode? Does it fix Gamescope issues?
Big Picture mode should always work. The Gamescope session should work according to reports, though there is currently no way for me to verify this
@@MichaelNROH There are some hacky workarounds to get it working on igpu+dgpu hybrid laptops, other than that the nvidia driver just crashes the gamescope session from our experience.
Consol that cant play games? Nice
Hi i really like watching ur video can u make video about lightweight linux distro i would be much appricieate
It's definitely planned for the future
If you want stable linux but with older softwares and drivers:
Linux Mint Xfce Edition
If you want latest softwares and drivers might be bit unstable(never crashed on me once tho):
EndeavourOS
I don't like nobara cause no secure boot support i think you can manually sign it
It's not something that I would install on a productive system, but for a console it's fine
@@MichaelNROH fair
Is Steaming on Linux a thing?
Prime Video is locked @1.1GB/hours 480p
Prime is the only plattform that I have personally experienced that does this. Netflix runs on HD like normally
👍
Does not work with Ryzen5 3600 and Nvidia GeForce 750ti. Black screen on os load. However, installed with no issues. Spent one day and gave up. Nvidia is trash.
Well, initially it worked but when I chose "Return to Game mode" it restarted and loads with white screen. What trash. I will go and turn on the PS5 now. Let's PC be a PC
Bazzite!! Should've used Bazzite not Nobara.
But i scare of touching the bios and bricking the pc ...
Thats nearly impossible. In the worst case you could still reset the BIOS by its resetting hole or disconnecting the cmos battery
@Canalebrandon The worst case is you have to reformat the drive and lose all of the data. You really have to go out of the way to screw up the hardware.
@@cameronbosch1213 yeh ofc, but we are talking about old pcs, so probably without important data on them
Why not just used holo iso instead?
No NVDIA support which is important for many, and it's also no longer maintained
@@MichaelNROH ah okay 👍
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