It was a night and day difference testing my Nitro Mousse soft vs my Michilen mousse in the rear. There was pros and cons to both. Nitro definetly is softer outta box, which is great for technical Terrain, but it was also considerably heavier and the worst thing about it, is it defects like a mofo on rocks/logs. Night and day difference between "dead weight feel michelin." Nitro advertises their mousse is more lively/springy/bouncy with Nitro infused, and to me that translates to more bouncy off rocks and more deflection, and that's exactly what happened. Back end Nitro was all over the place. Swapped wheels back and forth, with my exact same set up, but only difference is a michelin bib, and much preferred the michelin dead weight feel, as it would track straight through the rocks with more confidence and not bouncing all over the place. My hard enduro pro Racer buddy both tested them back to back on our own bikes and came to same conclusion
Just bought a Soft mousse to go with my Kenda Ibex. Can't wait to try it. I was using a Tubliss system and air was leaking from the knob's base...not cool. Will buy a soft Nitromousse to go with my next front tire, the Shinko 216 fatty.
Jeff, I am onee of your current customers from Jersey for 21' Te300i Parts..I thank you for your tire pressure recommendations..I was using OEM Recommended 15/15psi and always felt the rear end sliding out on fireroads..I weigh 230 with gear and tried 12 front / 12 Rear and I like it..Bike hooks up better and feels more planted. May try 10 rear & 12 Front next.
Thanks for the video. It confirms my impression with the soft nitro mousses. I ran a standard one for a while and it was too hard for me, would deflect more. I alao ran tubliss at 8psi but got some issues with flats on the inner bladder.
Hello: There is no black and white answer to your question. There are many variables; correct size for the tire, keeping it well lubed, type of riding, staying off hot pavement, etc.etc..
Waiting to hear the durability results. How long will they last compared to the regular ones, etc. Considering getting a non street legal dirt bike (YZ250FX) and would put mousse in tires.
Nice still debating on moose or tubliss, on my ‘19 450xcf riding Massachusetts sand, roots and some rocks. I’m looking for less maintenance for myself. Thanks for the great videos
Huge thanks for sharing your tests. I have my first mousse in a front tire now, It feels hard(I love TuBliss), soft nitro sounds good. I only bash hard on occasion, usually when I loose my line and I'm going to fast. Lol In the end, my fingers are crossed a mousse might save a rim when Tubliss at 5 to 8 lbs can't. (I'm not a rim taco fan) Long term, if a soft nitro lasts 2 tires, win in my book.
The TUbliss 360 degree rimlock keeps the tire from collapsing during a big hit so it should give better rim protection than a mousse, but time will tell. If kept properly lubricated and sized correctly, the soft mousse should last 2-3 tires.
You will never beat that feeling of 8lb in the front and 5lb in the back with tubliss and I’ve hit some pretty crazy rock ledges with tubliss never tacoed a rim
Hi i had a look at the slavens website, however it seems like there isnt an option for 120/90 18ich, which one should i go for to accommodate that size or rear wheel? Thank you
Drilling holes was done WAY before Jarvis came along. Unfortunately it's a highly inaccurate way to soften the mousse and dramatically shortens the service life.
@@slaverace1 for sure, hard to stomach paying 150 or so ,then having to drill large holes in it to make it work ..... I think Jarvis lost a king of motos race with that set up when they fell apart due to heat and high speeds.
Any mouse, especially a soft one, would be a concern for me when considering bent rims. I think that Tublis has the best resistance to damaged rims (regardless of tire pressure) for any inflation system. I would hope that Jeff will comment on this (I assume that he will).
Respectfully, running drilled out mousse hard in the desert for over a year, I think mouse is by far the best protection for rims, as the whole point of mousse is pinch flat protection, as in keeping space between ground and rim, even drilled out, or soft. No sane mousse user will argue that the price, installation, longevity, and feel all suck compared to tubes or tubliss. For mousse users, the ONLY benefit, is reliability in the field, so much so, that it outweighs all the down sides.... This reliability as the added side benefit on not having to carrying 5lbs of tubes and tire irons on rides. Changing a pinched flat on the side of trail for two hours because you pinched your spare tube during install because you can only carry so many tools sucks while on vacation in Idaho. So does carrying all that crap.
It was a night and day difference testing my Nitro Mousse soft vs my Michilen mousse in the rear. There was pros and cons to both. Nitro definetly is softer outta box, which is great for technical Terrain, but it was also considerably heavier and the worst thing about it, is it defects like a mofo on rocks/logs. Night and day difference between "dead weight feel michelin." Nitro advertises their mousse is more lively/springy/bouncy with Nitro infused, and to me that translates to more bouncy off rocks and more deflection, and that's exactly what happened. Back end Nitro was all over the place. Swapped wheels back and forth, with my exact same set up, but only difference is a michelin bib, and much preferred the michelin dead weight feel, as it would track straight through the rocks with more confidence and not bouncing all over the place. My hard enduro pro Racer buddy both tested them back to back on our own bikes and came to same conclusion
Finally, a solution I would consider running ,if it comes in a fatty size . Not ready to give up my tubliss2 rear set up yet though.
Yes, it comes in a 90/100-21 Fatty size slavensracing.com/shop/soft-nitro-mousse-by-nuetech/
Just bought a Soft mousse to go with my Kenda Ibex. Can't wait to try it. I was using a Tubliss system and air was leaking from the knob's base...not cool. Will buy a soft Nitromousse to go with my next front tire, the Shinko 216 fatty.
Any feedback from the mousse? I was thinking of putting them on my bike. :)
I’ve been using one in the rear since they hit. I really like it. I use the standard one in front.
I was wondering about that arrangement...
Jeff, I am onee of your current customers from Jersey for 21' Te300i Parts..I thank you for your tire pressure recommendations..I was using OEM Recommended 15/15psi and always felt the rear end sliding out on fireroads..I weigh 230 with gear and tried 12 front / 12 Rear and I like it..Bike hooks up better and feels more planted. May try 10 rear & 12 Front next.
Glad to help
Thanks for the video. It confirms my impression with the soft nitro mousses. I ran a standard one for a while and it was too hard for me, would deflect more. I alao ran tubliss at 8psi but got some issues with flats on the inner bladder.
Is there a part 2 out yet? These Nitros must last and last! Rock on! I need a set.
No. I forgot to make it.
@@slaverace1 which do you recommend for trail/MX/backyard obstacle fun? Will these do, or go for the BIBs?
I want to know the service life. Will air pressure errors occur over many years of use?
Hello:
There is no black and white answer to your question. There are many variables; correct size for the tire, keeping it well lubed, type of riding, staying off hot pavement, etc.etc..
Waiting to hear the durability results. How long will they last compared to the regular ones, etc. Considering getting a non street legal dirt bike (YZ250FX) and would put mousse in tires.
Any part 2 review ? Also what size front tire are you using 80 or 90 /100?
Nice still debating on moose or tubliss, on my ‘19 450xcf riding Massachusetts sand, roots and some rocks. I’m looking for less maintenance for myself. Thanks for the great videos
Huge thanks for sharing your tests.
I have my first mousse in a front tire now, It feels hard(I love TuBliss), soft nitro sounds good.
I only bash hard on occasion, usually when I loose my line and I'm going to fast. Lol
In the end, my fingers are crossed a mousse might save a rim when Tubliss at 5 to 8 lbs can't. (I'm not a rim taco fan)
Long term, if a soft nitro lasts 2 tires, win in my book.
The TUbliss 360 degree rimlock keeps the tire from collapsing during a big hit so it should give better rim protection than a mousse, but time will tell.
If kept properly lubricated and sized correctly, the soft mousse should last 2-3 tires.
Thanks Jeff
You will never beat that feeling of 8lb in the front and 5lb in the back with tubliss and I’ve hit some pretty crazy rock ledges with tubliss never tacoed a rim
Curious as to what width you're generally running in these tires. 110, 120 or 140?
I just use the size chart on our site.
Hi i had a look at the slavens website, however it seems like there isnt an option for 120/90 18ich, which one should i go for to accommodate that size or rear wheel? Thank you
Please use the following link to match the correct mousse for the tire that you run. nitromousse.com/application-guide/
Would you recommend a heavier rider start with the stiffer mousse?
Only if you want a stiffer ride.
We change softness by drilling holes in the bibs. I learned that from Graham Jarvis and friends.
Drilling holes was done WAY before Jarvis came along. Unfortunately it's a highly inaccurate way to soften the mousse and dramatically shortens the service life.
@@slaverace1 for sure, hard to stomach paying 150 or so ,then having to drill large holes in it to make it work ..... I think Jarvis lost a king of motos race with that set up when they fell apart due to heat and high speeds.
Jeff Slavens He didn’t say Jarvis invented it, he said he “learned that from Jarvis”... Bit defensive there? 🙄
Any mouse, especially a soft one, would be a concern for me when considering bent rims. I think that Tublis has the best resistance to damaged rims (regardless of tire pressure) for any inflation system. I would hope that Jeff will comment on this (I assume that he will).
Respectfully, running drilled out mousse hard in the desert for over a year, I think mouse is by far the best protection for rims, as the whole point of mousse is pinch flat protection, as in keeping space between ground and rim, even drilled out, or soft. No sane mousse user will argue that the price, installation, longevity, and feel all suck compared to tubes or tubliss. For mousse users, the ONLY benefit, is reliability in the field, so much so, that it outweighs all the down sides.... This reliability as the added side benefit on not having to carrying 5lbs of tubes and tire irons on rides. Changing a pinched flat on the side of trail for two hours because you pinched your spare tube during install because you can only carry so many tools sucks while on vacation in Idaho. So does carrying all that crap.