Russia's Six Fleets: A Sinking Superpower

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • Russia's naval forces, structured around six distinct fleets, are navigating turbulent waters in the current geopolitical climate. While all six of these fleets have seen modest improvements, especially in their submarine capabilities, the conflict in Ukraine is now stretching resources thin, with senior figures from within the Navy warning that the Army's problem today, is going to be the Navy's problem tomorrow. This looming situation poses critical questions, like how will Russia's navy will adapt to these emerging challenges, and what programs are likely to face the chopping block when times get tough? So to help us answer those questions, we turn to our panel of experts:
    On the panel this week:
    - Nick Childs (IISS)
    - Mark Galeotti (RUSI)
    - H. I. Sutton (Covert Shores)
    Intro - 00:00
    PART 1 - 04:44
    PART 2 - 27:40
    PART 3 - 50:16
    Outro - 1:10:33
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Комментарии • 27

  • @Anastasia-nn5fy
    @Anastasia-nn5fy 4 месяца назад +11

    As a Russian I can say that if such a legend exists, I never heard of it

  • @6Ligma
    @6Ligma 4 месяца назад +10

    Man, I feel like 2024 will have a lot of content for this channel !!! Hope we survive this sh*t

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 4 месяца назад +1

      This in my opinion will be one of the most determinative years in recent memory… the fight for democracy and authoritarianism hands in the balance… and war cries in the air

  • @p0xus
    @p0xus 4 месяца назад +2

    H.I. Sutton is great. Good to hear him on here.

  • @LumenMichaelOne
    @LumenMichaelOne 4 месяца назад +5

    Brilliant. As always. The RedLine is a regular and on the schedule. 👏👏👏

  • @uberbeeg
    @uberbeeg 4 месяца назад +2

    The Soviets and the Russians never had a navy of note outside of their submarine force. Peter may have wrote a letter, but the Russian/Soviet Navy never ever has really been a surface fleet of concern to anyone

  • @erloriel
    @erloriel 4 месяца назад

    Wonderfully insightful and interesting!
    And of course, suddenly hearing Mr. Sutton's voice was a true delight.

  • @lagrangewei
    @lagrangewei 4 месяца назад +1

    the main problem with Russia naval power is it geography. with divided coastline the different element could not support each other. we saw the effective of this in the Russian-Japanese war. China, US, UK, France, Japan, India can assemble their fleet easily (US has 2 coast but it has panama canal)... Russian geographic problem may change in the Arctic does become navigable. but that will be some years away.
    until then investment in the navy is pointless since that power cannot be consolidated.

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 4 месяца назад

      And considering the potential risk of the factors that a war against Taiwan might lead… well the Russian Bear will have to either keep its feet wet or lose its influence in its ports

  • @atmenhilft516
    @atmenhilft516 3 месяца назад

    At this stage of the special military operation it is beginning to be more like five and a half fleets

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 4 месяца назад +1

    The sea fleets (baltic/caspian/black) should have many small ships, some medium ships, and few (baltic/caspain) or fewer (black) large ships, with adaquit submarines to support them. Ekranoplans should have been built, and more hover craft systems and numbers should have also been built for their navies for all their fleets, but especially for their sea fleets because they are going to be so outnumbered, having superior speed and versatile vessels that can travel over land and water (because they will be the ones getting invaded in the baltic and in the black and caspian seas it would have the edge for special forces to operate openly) to embark and disembark on and off land will be vital. Another thing they should build is a huge river and brown water fleet of enranoplans/hovercrafts/small boats that can quickly go between Arctic/Baltic/Black/Caspain to support whatever side needs support. The Mediteranean fleet could be used to support all the other fleets while also patrolling the Mediteranean and would be made up of mostly medium and large sized ships but have plenty of ekranoplans. But the largest weakness is not in ships but in infrastructure. By building the canal between Black and Caspian Seas and upgrading the Arctic Ocean/Baltic Sea Canal to allow for larger ships in size and count would allow them flexibility so the sea fleets could be smaller and in turn allowing money to be more efficiently spent. Russia should also built anti-air submarines. they have never been built (a few were converted in ww2) but they would be pivital in a war for them and work well in seas and in middle of large oceans air corridors as they would also have anti ship/submarine capabilities.

    • @lGODofLAGl
      @lGODofLAGl 4 месяца назад +2

      Truly, the wettest of dreams for them, unlucky for them, they just don't have the money nor the means to develop the expertise lol

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 4 месяца назад +1

      The pipe dream of pipe dreams

    • @cliffwoodbury5319
      @cliffwoodbury5319 4 месяца назад +2

      @@jackthorton10 True. I just grew up reading many books on soviet (and american) militaries and also know much about the subject in general an d it's easy to see that the Russians are still trying to build for something they have have no reason trying to build for. They should be trying to rebuild a navy with far more brown water capability than blue water capability. With a strategy built on flexibility of units from rivers and lakes being able to quickly move back and forth between the seas. It would be an unwinnable war anyways and so its just ridiculous thinking about it but...

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 4 месяца назад

      Suddenly even MW3 sounded reasonable to believe @@cliffwoodbury5319

    • @CharlesWarrington
      @CharlesWarrington 3 месяца назад

      Problem with AAA subs is detection, it's kinda the antithesis of a subs role. Tough to get a good RADAR lock from such a low vantage point even if you're in a good location.

  • @zollen123
    @zollen123 4 месяца назад +1

    Peter the great valued of warm water ports at a time before trains, submarines or airplanes were invented. I argue his views were outdated.

  • @altalt2179
    @altalt2179 4 месяца назад

    Что случилось с подводной лодкой Курск?

  • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
    @carkawalakhatulistiwa 4 месяца назад +1

    In krimea war 1850 50% Russia lost to British and france
    In 1904 Russia empire lost 50% they ship to jepang.
    In ww2 50% Soviet ship lost to nazi Jerman
    But 10 year letter they just made new ship and back. And ship lost is normal in Russia war. Actually is you Reed history

  • @lloydsmith5679
    @lloydsmith5679 3 месяца назад

    A former super power. Russia is now a middle power, like France or india. It seems well on its way to a North Korean like status.

  • @Crazie_Parul
    @Crazie_Parul 4 месяца назад

    First... Just have some queries

  • @davidkingy
    @davidkingy 4 месяца назад

    Bro change your thumbnail style to get more views.

  • @timallison8560
    @timallison8560 4 месяца назад

    having a fleet implies one could get at least a dozen ships to sail halfway around the world together, other than submarines, i'm far from 100% positive russia could even get this to happen.

    • @temlan7929
      @temlan7929 4 месяца назад

      Bazinga!
      However youve presented the anglo saxon expeditiary perspective on fleets. Russia could move their vessels halfway across the world by relocating them from murmansk to vladivostok ports.

  • @altalt2179
    @altalt2179 4 месяца назад

    Де крейсер Москва?

  • @altalt2179
    @altalt2179 4 месяца назад

    Не буде у Раші флоту