The Last Word Needs the Next CATALYST.. (NOW!!)
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Bring back The First Curse
We kind have dmt that is like first curse.
First curse but hear me out, but as a void exotic hand cannon simply bc there’s no void exotic hand cannon
@@dc_thejoker7805would rather something new made than butcher a kinetic classic. Something like sunshot but void
How about making it strand and give it something similar to the thorn burn
Final Shape in 2030, maybe?
Give it offhand strike! Boost the range, stability, and accuracy after a kill when firing from the hip
this would be so sick
i was saying give it this or outlaw
its a damn cowboy gun, and outlaw is like the cowboy perk
@@clxckb4it340outlaw with triple tap or fttc
I hope we get the first curse back in d2. It was such a cool hand canon in D1 and I really hope we can see it get the love it deserved in D2
I like your idea for a catalyst for it, but it can also benefit from a mag size increase
The REAL catalyst we need unfortunately is new leadership, but I appreciate you still taking care of you. As annoyed as I am with what has gone on, I still love watching people like you. You’re a real one Frost. Thanks for all the amazing videos dude
I've said for years last words catalyst should make it first curse to a degree. Give it utility while ads. Kinda like dmt. Slower fire rate while ads
make it the first curse when you ads, but it keeps the base range. it will only hit at like 30 meters. That won't be op. That would be awesome though .
Maybe the catalyst should give it more of a cowboy feel. Maybe having it holstered for several seconds then drawing it gives the weapon more stability and extra precision damage for one shot. And name the catalyst "High Noon" or something
That actually sounds fye
Homie thinks we wouldn't notice him cleverly bring up the data mined catalyst 🔥
Catalyst is that if you wear a cowboy hat while using last word, all headshot kills will make the guardian say "Yeehaw"
After a few hip fire kills (it stacks) and when you reload you can use it like a regular HC with temp high damage rounds until you reload again.
It basically turning into the first curse/120 when ads would be cool alongside with increased range n handling it wouldn't be op it would be on par with other 120s and fan fire could be a last resort in close range fights once you run out of special.
Last word catalyst idea: ads-Ing makes it shoot 110 rpm with the same ads animation as normal and call the catalyst the first curse
Honestly I kinda DON'T want the Catalyst to make The Last Word a The First Curse style weapon. I want them to be separate weapons, even if I personally never truly cared for the fact that The First Curse looked so similar to The Last Word, it always felt cheap to me idk.
However, if TLW DOES get a Catalyst that makes it act like TFC when you aim down sights. TLW Would be an incredible weapon. ADS to get some good damage in, and then hip fire to clean up and finish off!
Honestly, I feel like this should be a quest or something for TLW's catalyst instead of just "do activities and then kill things for an hour"
Same with Thorn. I feel both should've gotten quests as they're both two of the most popular guns in Destiny's history.
Iconic, even.
(TLW quest) "Legacy"
(Thorn quest) "Tenebris"
Almost feels like the the first curse exotic perk should be on hawkmoon instead, that way you can chain kills with the paracausal shot. Maybe give last word like an extended magazine and fourth times the charm. So if your hitting your head shots you get some bullets back to the magazine, reward precision.
Nah man give last word rapid hit or offhand strike
@@ryanclune3883 I wouldn't be upset with your off-hand strike perk as an option but last word is already very powerful with no catalyst so id be weary about boosting stats on it like range and target acquisition. I think I would pass on rapid hit however, i feel as if rapid hit would be a waste on the last word.
@@GhostCastle7 I agree. I’m thinking maybe they do a thorn deal where it’s a unique perk just for last word. However, last word has some pretty pathetic range rn, and with smgs being the way they are, plus how strong thorns catalyst is gonna be, I don’t think offhand strike would be all that crazy
@ryanclune3883 I don't think the range on LW is that bad. I think it's reasonable for the type of weapon it is
that would be okay for PvE but idk anyone who hits 4 crits without a kill on this thing, my thoughts was keep away and opening shot
3:12 that nonchalant head tilt and the quick snipe . Insane
The perfect catalyst would be turning it into a dual wield last word like a real cowboy
Would make sense to have The "Last" Word catalyst come out during The "Final" Shape
THANK YOU for saying that we NEED a Last Word Catalyst. I main LW and it's just time to fix the ghost bullets and shitty hit reg
Love you, Frost! Always keeping it real. We're lucky to have you as part of the Destiny community, seriously!
Max reload speed, increased handling, give it triple tap and let fan fire increase with the triple tap amount
No no no
@@Aizenks7 yes yes yes, makes it better for dueling in pvp and makes it much more viable in pve
the first curse catalyst would be so dummy insane
honestly if it became a 120 but kept the actual stats on the last word( ie like 10 range, stab, handling) I think it would be fine
@@DM-yu5qbthat would be so nice actually just so it’s usable while ads but not as good as something like igneous
We have nanotech now. We can quite literally make Last Word morph into First Curse now. Bungo please.
Catalyst ideas-
•Equivalent of 5 meters range buff + desperado
•Equivalent of 5 meters range buff + a form of bonus damage based on hip fire shot stacks, to allow for 1 head 2 body kills or 2 head 1 body
•ADS for first curse mode
•explosive rounds (just imagine the flinch in a duel)
Rewind rounds! Slide shot or slide ways would be ok too
The catalyst should give it the perk Keep away and opening shot
Thank you for your reaction to the layoffs! Sad but a fact of life EVERYWHERE in every industry. Just recently discovered you, I'll be here for a long time to come. Great vids!
Frost I want you to know we got your back no matter what you do to me you're like a best friend even tho we don't know each other and I enjoy watching whatever you do even if its not Destiny 2 as long as you're happy in what you do brother!
If I were to give it a catalyst, field tested with target lock and box breathing and call it Big Iron or something. You get more range per hit and more damage along with a slight boost to ads. Maybe this is op but this would be what I would want. Smgs could still cook it and 120s from further ranges but it would make it atleast somewhat competitive and better in pve
Honestly because of the range changes it need a range and stability buff Catalyst or zen moment or even landing headshots make hip fire accuracy better
The first curse as a catalyst for last word that takes effect when ads idea is brilliant.
New catalyst just makes it shoot slower out of nowhere
Actually I love the First Curse idea
I've had that rate of fire bug on LW aswell. For whatever reason it just started shooting slower, it felt really limiting. I fixed it by un-equipping and equipping it again.
I would make The catalyst be a 120 only when ADS, alongside giving the gun An enhanced Offhand strike unique perk.
I honestly think the catalyst for last owrd should be like pyrana prime from warframe. getting 3 kills within say 10 seconds will grant you a second ethereal last word in your left hand which can have some cool effect idk what but it would look sick
While i respect a fellow warframe player and pyrana prime enjoyer. Destiny perks and ttks will have to alter how this would work so 13 seconds would become a lot long since you are hipfiring for a kill not to mention ghost bullets hit reg and reticle friction on controller. Pc would have a ball with this though
@@Efsneonhearts thx for the reply!
Maybe, just maybe DMT was the test run for a LW/1st Curse.
Maybe we can see a catalyst run of several exotics during the upcoming drought
so they've been testing DMT for over 2 years then?
@sQuaTsiFieD Yes, and then forgot about it. But hey it's just an unproven theory.
I think last word catalyst should give it super high handling that would be so nice
I think it would be cool if getting kills with Last word would automatically activate radiant which could then be stacked via more kills plus the radiant dodge, but once you reach a max stack of radiant kills it overpowers your golden guns super unless you die , and for every stack you also get a slight bump that improves the Last words handling, stability, and range the question is can you maintain your stacks long enough to whip out your super radiant golden gun or just enough to keep yourself alive for another duel? think of the super radiant golden gun as sort of like the Hawkmoons Paracausal Charge only in adition of the already powerful Golden guns dmg for both PvE & PvP.
What about people not playing Hunter lmao
@@SerCaelus well skill issue then * goes radiant because he can *
Similar to what "@Codiplee4711" Said, I think the last word catalyst should have a buildup bar similar to Vex Mythoclast and Revision Zero. The bar will be filled up by landing body shots, precision shots add double energy, while kills give triple energy to the bar. Once the bar is filled up, there are two ways you can activate the perk, swapping the weapon or press the reload button to be sent into third person western ready stance. While in the stance you can move around and hold the stance undefinedly. A prompt will instantly appear saying "Last Word Ready" or for fun "Any Last words." As soon as you swap and press the trigger or press the trigger while in the western stance, the Last Word will fire one high damage shot similar to golden gun celestial KnightHawk. Getting a kill will reactivate the perk again but you would need to swap or go into western stance to shoot it again. Notes - Being in western stance will send you to third person, while swapping your weapon will be first person, this is for the player's choice. The damage will either be half of what golden gun does or will be scaled on how many shot you've land before bar fill up. More clarification to western stance, while moving, you can only run (NOT SPRINT), and Jump.
Very cool idea, seems like a stretch and would probably need tuning here and there but very very cool idea
@@iAronn thanks, I appreciate it. I just wanted the idea to be out there. You are right aswell it is kind of a stretch.
I think the ads turning it into the first curse as a 120 would be nice, also add some range on that bad boy
Fix the bloom a little and catalyst could be + 15 range and +10 stability.
You always make entertaining content. Thanks for your work and please go on
The catalyst should be fourth times the charm with high impact reserves. So if you get precision hits you get rounds back, but if you get down to the last 2-3 rounds you get a little more damage.
The Last Word definitely needs a Catalyst. I think if it gets a decent Range boost, and extra Stability and Handling it would be so much better.
it needs rangefinder and for its ads damage nerf to be rolled back
I was kinda thinking on giving it a slight damage stat boost, as well as maybe adding Auto Loading Holster? Offhand strike could be good as well. And maybe is they ever give exotics origin traits, we all know it’s getting Tex Balanced Stock. This beauty is my favorite gun so idk what I really want.
I think Gunshot Straight would be the appropriate catalyst for The Last Word. Aiming down the sights while firing would give it increased body-shot damage, while hip-firing the gun gives it increased precision damage.
Could give it desperado but alter it so it has to charge up like the Revision zero alternate firing mode. Then hold reload and your character like spins the mag before going crazy. Make it last a couple of seconds like repentece on trespasser as well.
where is my pew pew yeehaw catalyst bungie, give it fourth times the charm or triple tap and revert the ads nerf
Look at frost carrying on like Bungie isn’t in the process of imploding. Stay strong bro lol
Stop being so melodramatic clown🤡 the game will be just fine
Dude that idea of making the catalyst the first curse when it ads’s is legit that would be amazing kinda in the spirit of dmt too😊
I think they could turn the catalyst into the first curse but make it fire at 110 rpm and maybe only have like 32m until damage falloff. That way it serves to be like a good option when you're out of sniper ammo to help with teamshooting but it's not going to be a master of every range. Maybe also give it a condition like it only lasts 5 seconds after swapping to it and then it has a 10 second cooldown.
Or just do the catalyst that's been in the game's data for years where swapping to TLW gives it bonus precision damage.
Appreciate the entertainment brother! Will be here through the good and bad.
Might be a weird pick, but Discord may actually be a solid catalyst perk for it. Imagine the ammo reset when it is active.
Last Word Catalyst Idea: Either make the catalyst give extra range and handling, make it where getting a kill increases range instead of damage, or increase bodyshot damage.
TLW almost usually fails to compete to smgs or shotguns due to them being the kings of cqc, so make it where the TLW catalyst can compete again at those ranges. Stats would help but a good perk can definitely make it feel like a genuine exotic. At the same time however, TLW should still be a weapon where you are rewarded with your skill of hitting precision shots constantly.
I’d honestly just like to see some stat boosts and maybe offhand strike. Offhand is good in concept but the last word just does not have the stats or consistency to make me feel confident enough in getting a kill to activate offhand strike. I know that there is that leaked catalyst people have associated with TLW for a while now, but I really do think either a small boost to range, stability, or handling would go a long way for the feeling of this gun on M&K.
only problem i can see with adding first curse as a catalyst, as perfect of an idea as it is, is that players would find a way to fan fire in 120 mode so you get the damage of a 120 with last word rate of fire 💀
Yes it's a bug I've been playing it for 3 months and it happens sometimes when you play too long
As a catalyst give it triple tap, and just bring back first curse
if they do its probably just gonna be faster reload, better aim acquisition or something like that
Honestly, I'd rather them bring back the first curse over making it a last word catalyst. They could either do the high noon one they had planned, or change the ads to be like the stallion 44 from infinite warfare, which I feel making it either a 180 ads or 150 ads could balance it out over having literally the longest ranged handcannon to exist be its catalyst.
It just shows how much this gun needs help and love. Reticle on target and it still ghosts in 2023. I had the rpm bug happen to me a lot. Gun shares code with 180s in D2, so the spaghetti can forget it's last word sometimes.
the catalyst should give it another perk colum that gives perk making its hipfire great for controller again, and toggle to the other option, and its pc crack again where its a ads monster. the whole community would enjoy playing it atleast but everyone would still hate playing against it.
Dual wield with no ADS would be fun. It is built for hipfire after all. Or if you get a kill it instantly refunds full ammo and call it bullet train or something 😅
Your streams playing horror games are awesome. Definitely try the RUclips video of them
please no, I hate this idea. First Curse is awesome enuff to be its own exotic.
Lets just remove the Last Word's ADS buff so its fun not make it a damn 120
I love the idea of ads swapping to a 120 archetype I would also add hipfire grip and opening shot to the catalyst to make it feel more consistent
The gun already has hipfire grip...
For the catalyst I think they should make the last word be a hybrid first curse
6:02 seems like you punched him and he flew back XD
This weapon need a stabilice catalyst
Catalyst should add a stacking stability and sim assist (like a buffed up rapid hit) and also give it cascade point so it can melt after a sniper or shotgun kill
offhand strike on the catalyst sounds good ngl, add that with like some extra range and we good ig
Titan using super on the first clip looked cold ahh 💀🥶
Hey Frost, how you doin?
I feel you. The future of D2 might seem pretty dark right now. But nothing changes, if nothing changes. And so does Bungie need to change. Perhaps it's not the right way, but maybe the only possibility. And yes, of course, starting with "The Last Word" Catalyst. Or with just trying to hype up the PvP Players by changing the PvP atmosphere or like to comply with the wishes of the community.
Besides, keep going man. You're doing great and I or "we" will always love you, no matter what is about to happen or is going to happen now or in the future. It's a pleasure to watch your Vids and see you smile always and forever.
I’ve been saying fuse TLW and TFC for years now. This would be perfect. It would add versatility but not as ridiculously as the OG un nerfed Last Word.
…or just give it Killclip or Harmony.
always thought the catalyst should just be what dmt is. hip fire is last word, ads is first curse
I think offhand strike would make for a perfect last word catalyst.
And make it so TLW doesn’t have a nerfed version of hip fire grip. It’s ridiculous how much they’ve pushed they hip fire down our throats just to have it not even be at its full potential
hey your sniping in this video is very impressive. Could you explain how you developed the thought process in your sniping?
12:31
FINALLY SOME ONE ELSE HAS THIS HAPPEN TO THEM. I use this all the fkin time and the bugs are insane with this gun. I guarantee you bungie doesn’t know that this gun has like 3 separate bugs killing its gameplay.
Catalyst should be shots that land rapidly reload the mag to keep fanfire going
Last word catalyst or black armory weapons to be craft able?
Thanks for all the entertaining videos. Keeps me grinding in order to get better at pvp.
LW needs no other than opening shot for activate fan fire perk, some more bullets and maybe offhand strike. for pve idk
That Match on Pacifica was close, not gonna lie they had us in the first half. Seeing your POV is wild didnt even hear you using last word. I had to turn it Awn
i think if they restored LW to its OG place in pvp it wouldnt be broken idgaf
Bros last word got adagio at the end there 😂
Let's propose something completely different and fun, maybe an Catalyst that make temporarily The Last Word in an veritable gunslinger, but that would be both a gauge and reload mechanic like Revision Zero :
The gauge are filled-up by both kill and precision shot, but precision shot and precision kill will replenish the gauge faster. when his gauge is full, you can activate this "Stance" and change temporarily the RPM of the last word from 225 RPM to an 450 RPM, with a quite big damage increase for Precision shot for ONLY one mag, a reduced recoil and increased stability and precision while not aiming down-sight, as well a new visual effect.
The name of the effect of the Catalys would be "Anything to say?"
Imagine pairing this with Lucky-Pants now
last word should get a double rapid headshot while hip firing increases next crit damage and range from the hip on the next shot and also get hip fire crits refund bullet into mag
I think revert the nerfs they did to it and make the msg maybe bigger even by one or two and give it more handling and range and stability and even maybe add slideshot or increase reload speed not “it should defiantly been turned into the first curse” such a stupid idea no offence to anyone that wants it, rather them just bring the gun back instead than rewrite a whole gun
Hear me out. play with the hip fire that destiny loves TLW so much. Give it Offhand Tex. It’s a play off of offhand strike, kills increase range, stability, and accuracy while firing from the hip as well as reloading the magazine.
Ooooor…. Give it desperado👀
An actual content creator not living off the state of the game or its news, but actually enjoying it.
I do think that having some ability to use TLW while ADSing would be nice as a catalyst.
Caty should be offhand strike +2 mag and 2+ handling
3:10 nah son that was gross lol
if this gun gets a catalyst, i will come back just to try it out
havent played in like a year, but i loved the last word, so if it gets a catalyst, im coming back
Either bring back first curse or make another handcannon with the sights of last word cause mannnnnnn I need that
3:10 They thought they could ego Himothy
give it triple tap + dynamic sway reduction
The first curse catalyst is a good idea but make it work like suros regime where you can choose the frame of the weapon
There's definitely a bug in the game. For a while now I'll experience getting shot in a gunfight and it feels like my gun just stops shooting. Weird.
TLW dual wielding would be a wild catalyst but damn would that range have to be nerfed like crazy
Got your back Frobo, much love
Most of the D1 OG weapons aren’t good at all. No point in using the last word when my legendary god roll side arm has twice as much range. They can atleast make a catalyst that gives it more bullets or range and it’s basically useless in pve.