As a retired middle school Earth Science teacher, it's interesting to see how the story of Theia that I taught to my students (and continue to espouse as a member and outreach volunteer of my local astronomy club) continues to evolve. Everything interacts - everything.
the metal core of thea was captured by earth..... hence life here. NOTE the artist animation shows oceans and green lands during the impact. At that time, earth has barely formed it's crust.... some animations shows the fully formed north american continent as it is TODAY.... a bit of accuracy is needed here....
Great theory, but i have a small problem: 4:27 you say, that the original theory suggests a head-on collision. That's not true, impossible in fact, according to my knowlege. The few debris, that would get into orbit (too little to make a moon and below the roche limit) would orbit in all orbit angles, with their orbits connecting in two points. This is not, how it would look like, but it would be simmilar, bcs the orbits aren't just affected by the side of the impact the debris' comming from. There wouldn't even be a ring, just a natural kessler syndrome and a lot of meteor showers. After a few .million years everything would calm down, as the debris hits eachother and looses orbital velocity. The effect would be a big, but sparse meteoroid field in orbit, that would cause problems with satelites. But at that point the timeline is so different from ours, that if there would be a highly inteligent species on earth, it would likelly not be us.
Theia is believed to have contributed to Earths rotation, axial tilt, but the whallop from Theia could also be what caused Earths orbit around the sun to become elliptical. The Theia theory could be verified more by investigating and simulating all these factors. It can also determine an exact angle of the hit, to run moore simulations with as functions of functions. The elliptical orbit, axial tilt, formation of the moon, and lovps, and see if there is a mathematical solution that fits all these conditions without one being left out.
I'm not sold on the whole Theia collision scenario. It would seem that in running all the simulations that data that would fit the desired result of a moon the size, mass and composition of our moon was input. Wouldn't a glancing collision that causes the ejected material to form the moon, result in a gravitational relationship between the two new bodies more akin to a dual star system, where the two resulting bodies orbit around a central gravitational point between them,and not like our system with earth being orbited by the moon in a stable , less elliptical orbit than other moons in the solar system. Many of the other planets in the solar system have had speculative collisions with no such stable orbits of their moons. And no explanation as to what forces would cause such a large planet as Theia to wander into our space. Too many questions remain in play before we can even begin to speculate on what happened to the remains of Theia or traces being LLVPs. Theia, itself, is a speculation,that could only be verified and viewed from a planet 4 billion light years from earth. Simulations are good but are still only simulations.
The impact from Theia heated up earth’s core significantly bc Theia had a hot core and the collision created more heat; thus the magnetic field is larger and more protective of delicate DNA
What’s the back story about lt we want to know more about living and everything because we want to know about the secret of about earth as always can you tell us what that supposed to mean?!
It was my understanding that what are being called LLVPs here, could also be the remnants of oceanic crust subducted into the mantle, folding into their present blob shapes. But what the Theia-Earth collision hypothesis reveals to me the most, is the essential role of our large Moon in keeping the Earth's crust in motion (aka continental drift), keeping Earth's Life enhancing chemicals recycling.
So the lvp’s have a different density, than the earth, and the moon has a different density in both the Earth and the LVP‘s. so how could a collision with one object with one density create both the moon, which is a different density than the earth and that LVP also a different density in the Earth? This might not be my best formed question.🤨
odd. Theia must of course had a large iron-nickle core. where did that go? our moon doesnt have much of an iron core, meaning Theia was completely broken up before or at the impact, throwing around rock and metals. in that case, how could these blobs belong to Thiea since they got no iron-nickle mix. if they did, they would ve sunk into Earth core, no?
Interesting - but we have no idea of what Earth's surface looked like back then. Thus showing the current configuration of continents and oceans at the time of impact strikes me as weird.
Accepted theory is tidal forces between earth and moon slow the earths spin slightly. That loss of angular momentum is converted to a very small speed up for the moon to maintain balance. Thus it very slowly gets farther away.
The same thing is done by the dance between the moon and the earth, not to mention that the core rotates faster from time to time and probably also changes the surface, moving according to need to the other poles so that it does not always bombard at the equator, being the rotation the main one around the sun!
What some do not realize, is that every living thing on this planet has a physical connection to the Earth, Theia and the Moon... when you look at the moon, think about how the moon is actually part of us
Also exclude collisions with the fact that the moons are formed from dust, conglomerates like the moons of Mars, and then it is normal to spin so that a ball of thread does not always swell in the same place, that is why there are flips... That is to say, more variants simple, related to movement, balance...!
Im happy to see that NASA is admitting the possibility that the Sumerian and Akkadian "myths" had a basis in science. The next question is, where and when did ancient civilizations aquire their information? Think about that.
So what happened to the left overs of that planet? How do the know it existed without samples of the other planet? Would there not be rings around earth if such an impact happened? I think it must be something else because another planet impact has too many problems with that theory. Good story though.
There was probably a ring around the Earth for a billion or so years. The easiest to access leftovers are on the Moon, some of which was brought back to Earth in the NASA Apollo landings. Yet this is still all theory, though it has considerable research, of various types backing it up.
This happened over 4.5 billion years ago. The debris was taken by the moon, and the rest would have fallen to Earth over probably a billion years. It doesn't stay in orbit forever. NASA’s Cassini mission data shows that Saturn’s rings formed between 10 million and 100 million years ago. They also believe Saturn's rings will be gone in 100 million years.
The simulation is very interesting and a professional work, congratulations to the creators! But where I live, the Earth rotates from west to east. If the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west, even for the creators of the simulation, then the direction of the earth's rotation should be reversed, right?!
I honestly don't think anyone can put a whole lot of faith into this hypothesis due to computers only kno as much as the people programming them .this happen to have happened millions of years ago and regardless of whether this happened or not i dont see the upside in proving the theory one way or another especially if we spend GOD knows how much money into this .we waste so much money on things that is not helpful to the American people. We pay for other countries wars .give countries millions in aid when we need all the help in making ends meat ourselves .and we wonder why our countries national debt is what it is .next time someone is on the verge of starvation or homelessness just tell them your sorry someone or something else is more important
As a retired middle school Earth Science teacher, it's interesting to see how the story of Theia that I taught to my students (and continue to espouse as a member and outreach volunteer of my local astronomy club) continues to evolve. Everything interacts - everything.
Absolutely ♥ the universe demands balance your students was lucky to have you as a teacher!
the metal core of thea was captured by earth..... hence life here. NOTE the artist animation shows oceans and green lands during the impact. At that time, earth has barely formed it's crust.... some animations shows the fully formed north american continent as it is TODAY.... a bit of accuracy is needed here....
Yep!!!
Agreed! Otherwise very interesting video
Some are amateur simulation and others are made by Mira and the one at the start is from a documentary that was on Netflix.
AH Netflix.... Tha explain everything isn't?@@DenisineD2
This is just a theory anyway
I have to say that I think that your texts are quite well written! They are clear and well organized. Thank goodness there are no silly jokes or ads.
"The moon is always mooning you because it's very cheeky."
---Albert Einstein
The graphics and animation on these videos are absolutely phenomenal!! 🤩Bravo to the graphics team!!
these collision animations shown are unrealistic. look up opensph. with opensph you can make very realistic planet collisions
Good works! Science's aren't easy to teach! We salute you!
Fascinating stuff, i really like how you described the counter theories first before digging into it. great breakdown
How can we test this theory? We could use the Moon to clobber Mars and see if the results follow the predictions...
Do not be silly!😂
We need the moon for tides and illumination at night.
Great theory, but i have a small problem: 4:27 you say, that the original theory suggests a head-on collision. That's not true, impossible in fact, according to my knowlege. The few debris, that would get into orbit (too little to make a moon and below the roche limit) would orbit in all orbit angles, with their orbits connecting in two points. This is not, how it would look like, but it would be simmilar, bcs the orbits aren't just affected by the side of the impact the debris' comming from. There wouldn't even be a ring, just a natural kessler syndrome and a lot of meteor showers. After a few .million years everything would calm down, as the debris hits eachother and looses orbital velocity. The effect would be a big, but sparse meteoroid field in orbit, that would cause problems with satelites. But at that point the timeline is so different from ours, that if there would be a highly inteligent species on earth, it would likelly not be us.
Theia is believed to have contributed to Earths rotation, axial tilt, but the whallop from Theia could also be what caused Earths orbit around the sun to become elliptical.
The Theia theory could be verified more by investigating and simulating all these factors. It can also determine an exact angle of the hit, to run moore simulations with as functions of functions. The elliptical orbit, axial tilt, formation of the moon, and lovps, and see if there is a mathematical solution that fits all these conditions without one being left out.
More data and experience is what I look forward to.
I'm not sold on the whole Theia collision scenario. It would seem that in running all the simulations that data that would fit the desired result of a moon the size, mass and composition of our moon was input. Wouldn't a glancing collision that causes the ejected material to form the moon, result in a gravitational relationship between the two new bodies more akin to a dual star system, where the two resulting bodies orbit around a central gravitational point between them,and not like our system with earth being orbited by the moon in a stable , less elliptical orbit than other moons in the solar system. Many of the other planets in the solar system have had speculative collisions with no such stable orbits of their moons. And no explanation as to what forces would cause such a large planet as Theia to wander into our space. Too many questions remain in play before we can even begin to speculate on what happened to the remains of Theia or traces being LLVPs. Theia, itself, is a speculation,that could only be verified and viewed from a planet 4 billion light years from earth. Simulations are good but are still only simulations.
I thought the Lifestream stopped meteor
The impact from Theia heated up earth’s core significantly bc Theia had a hot core and the collision created more heat; thus the magnetic field is larger and more protective of delicate DNA
What’s the back story about lt we want to know more about living and everything because we want to know about the secret of about earth as always can you tell us what that supposed to mean?!
Mono-tone voice over, fix that, because the video is amazing, great job
It was my understanding that what are being called LLVPs here, could also be the remnants of oceanic crust subducted into the mantle, folding into their present blob shapes.
But what the Theia-Earth collision hypothesis reveals to me the most, is the essential role of our large Moon in keeping the Earth's crust in motion (aka continental drift), keeping Earth's Life enhancing chemicals recycling.
So the lvp’s have a different density, than the earth, and the moon has a different density in both the Earth and the LVP‘s. so how could a collision with one object with one density create both the moon, which is a different density than the earth and that LVP also a different density in the Earth?
This might not be my best formed question.🤨
YESS! I was thinking the same
I thought this was the widely accepted theory.
THEIA and TIAMAT are same planet??
Finally someone gets it.
odd. Theia must of course had a large iron-nickle core. where did that go? our moon doesnt have much of an iron core, meaning Theia was completely broken up before or at the impact, throwing around rock and metals. in that case, how could these blobs belong to Thiea since they got no iron-nickle mix. if they did, they would ve sunk into Earth core, no?
The core IS Mercury. Only the material of the late heavy bombardment hit earth. And also left the moon wandering around the inner solar system. imo
Earth-shattering ... 8-)
excellent
Is it possible to reverse engineer the scenario using AI and all available data to move backward instead of forward?
Honest and informative.
Theia isn't real
Theia and Protoearth: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH (BOOM) (and the moon forms)
This collision was an Earths quake of 17.8 on Richter scale.
Interesting - but we have no idea of what Earth's surface looked like back then. Thus showing the current configuration of continents and oceans at the time of impact strikes me as weird.
Those animations are from universe sandbox which simulate earth as it is now
@@franimal86 Be that as it may be but it is still inaccurate.
Scientists: let’s call the planet Theia
The planet: NOOO that’s not my name
The Moon's orbit has been steadily increasing over time. Where is the energy for accelerating the Moon away from Earth coming from?
Centripetal force is slightly greater than the gravitational force from the earth would be my guess.
Accepted theory is tidal forces between earth and moon slow the earths spin slightly. That loss of angular momentum is converted to a very small speed up for the moon to maintain balance. Thus it very slowly gets farther away.
Which means that moon and earth were closer and closer and tidal currents must have been huge the more we go back in the past.
The same thing is done by the dance between the moon and the earth, not to mention that the core rotates faster from time to time and probably also changes the surface, moving according to need to the other poles so that it does not always bombard at the equator, being the rotation the main one around the sun!
So much perfection it was carried out by great intelligence.
@tesseractgon-dy5yo I believe all theories are true somewhere in the universe. That's why we should have no fear creating and sharing them!
Why is there no evidence of the other planet in lunar soil samples?
Algore said the EEarth has fever . . .
I say the Earth has a Hernia.
You can know you oly think its that way.
What some do not realize, is that every living thing on this planet has a physical connection to the Earth, Theia and the Moon... when you look at the moon, think about how the moon is actually part of us
Also exclude collisions with the fact that the moons are formed from dust, conglomerates like the moons of Mars, and then it is normal to spin so that a ball of thread does not always swell in the same place, that is why there are flips... That is to say, more variants simple, related to movement, balance...!
Im happy to see that NASA is admitting the possibility that the Sumerian and Akkadian "myths" had a basis in science. The next question is, where and when did ancient civilizations aquire their information? Think about that.
If these theory is correct this might be reason why dinosaurs extinct and the reason of missing city of atlantis
Interesting theory. But it’s just a theory.
That's how we do science. With theories.
The illustration of the impact of Theia with Earth is wrong. At the time of this impact there were no continents and certainly no ice sheet.
How do you know that fo sure? That is also only a theory.
So what happened to the left overs of that planet? How do the know it existed without samples of the other planet? Would there not be rings around earth if such an impact happened? I think it must be something else because another planet impact has too many problems with that theory. Good story though.
Did you bother to watch the video?
There was probably a ring around the Earth for a billion or so years. The easiest to access leftovers are on the Moon, some of which was brought back to Earth in the NASA Apollo landings. Yet this is still all theory, though it has considerable research, of various types backing it up.
I think the more accurate word is hypothesis@@jonathanleonard1152
This happened over 4.5 billion years ago. The debris was taken by the moon, and the rest would have fallen to Earth over probably a billion years. It doesn't stay in orbit forever. NASA’s Cassini mission data shows that Saturn’s rings formed between 10 million and 100 million years ago. They also believe Saturn's rings will be gone in 100 million years.
Do you understand what a theory means in scientific terms!?
😊
The simulation is very interesting and a professional work, congratulations to the creators! But where I live, the Earth rotates from west to east. If the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west, even for the creators of the simulation, then the direction of the earth's rotation should be reversed, right?!
It was necessary to give rotation to eartg
The was formed by intelligent living beings having wars on our planet and a nuclear gore explosion separated the moon .
tedious, tedious, tedious background noise swamping the commentary, why spoil an interesting presentation with such unnecessary noise ? ? ?
to question is to learn. If theories were never questioned there would be no scientific progress.
Genesis 1:
What?????????lol lol!!!!!
Let me know when you have facts and not speculations. Science is based on facts not fantasy.
I honestly don't think anyone can put a whole lot of faith into this hypothesis due to computers only kno as much as the people programming them .this happen to have happened millions of years ago and regardless of whether this happened or not i dont see the upside in proving the theory one way or another especially if we spend GOD knows how much money into this .we waste so much money on things that is not helpful to the American people. We pay for other countries wars .give countries millions in aid when we need all the help in making ends meat ourselves .and we wonder why our countries national debt is what it is .next time someone is on the verge of starvation or homelessness just tell them your sorry someone or something else is more important