Tool Review Drill Master Pocket Hole Jig
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Review of the Drill Master Pocket Hole Jig from Harbor Freight
This all aluminum pocket hole jig from Harbor Freight. Similar jig available on Amazon linked here:
WEN pocket hole jig: amzn.to/3swdHKa
Better pocket hole jigs:
M2 Pro bundle: masscaproducts...
M2 Pocket Hole jig: masscaproducts...
Amazon link: amzn.to/3eBcH1v
Screw bundle: masscaproducts...
Tools used:
RIGID drill set: amzn.to/3uCZ5vA
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Kind of buried the lede there. If someone doesn't watch the whole video they'll think you liked it.
Yeah I know... It was one of my very first RUclips videos so my editing was bad and overall set up, I just didn't know better on a proper video. The only thing I can say is it was honest, I did like it at first and the more I used it the more I realized all be it adequate there is better but obviously for more $$. I've since used a Kreg and and now use Massca and they do the job much better in my opinion. Such is the journey. Thanks for watching all the way through, much appreciated.
You mean lead
It blows away the Kreg Jig, and for 59 bucks quality was way better than plastic kreg jigs for same price.
I just didn't like how much tear out I got. I ended up getting Massca and really like the Massca jig
it's the drill bit, not the jig. for anyone who wants to save the bucks, pick up the Drill Master and just pair it with Kreg's bit and make sure to use their screws.
Thinking back I think your right... but I ended up going to a Kreg K5 but have not really used it yet. I do like that the Kreg had built in dust collection instead of me having to adapt something. In the end I may have been hasty on the return but am happy with the K5 purchase. I did see a review of a Pocket Hole jig by Armour Tools that looks really interesting but price is even higher than the K5.
I'm usually very happy with my HF purchases too. I actually like the Drill Master pocket 1" pocket hole screws. The Kreg one's don't have that "washer" head or at least the one's I have where as the Drill Master one's were larger pan head which is nice to ensure not over driving them. I am going to look and see in that 1" if I can get something other than Kreg for that reason. Thanks for watching!!
@@4321Woodworking Just an idea here, but why dont you pick the Drill Master back up and give it a full go with a Kreg bit. Make multiple types of joints with it, check strength of HF screws, etc. Make for some more content. Worst case scenario, you take it back again
@@andrewrn271 I'll consider that thanks!! I do like the K5 so far for the few features it has above the Drill Master not that the Drill Master was bad except the bit. The main driver was the K5 went on sale due to the 720s coming out which put it into my budget. But maybe one of these days I'll get back up there and get the Drill Master and have a side by side go round with them.
@Andrew RN it’s not the drill bit. I tested the Kreg drill bit on this jig as well as the more expensive massca m1. There is significant tear out even with the Kreg bit. I got a Kreg 720 and found that the pocket holes come out super clean. This convinced me that Kreg jig definitely does a significantly better job even though it doesn’t seem to have the all metal body that some of the other jigs have. I think if you care about the ease of use and quality of the holes they make, Kreg is definitely the way to go.
@@jodilaiggajay Thank you for sharing this info. Do you know why this is so? What about the Kreg doesn't cause tear out?
Great review on this ... I was just looking at the "blue" 320 jig... But for a few extra bucks this looks like a better solution. Its also all aluminum and looks a little more robust.
Good job!! Very well explained. Keep it up.
Had the same problem with mine. Just traded it in for a Armor Tool Pocket Hole Jig. Got $70 credit thru Armor tool which is more then I paid for it two years ago.
I'm really thinking about getting the Armor. I know 731 Woodworks has one coming and will review it and awaiting that to make a final decision on K5 (if I can find one still) vs Armor but from what I've seen it's like an 80% lean towards Aromr.
Great first video!
I like that you can adjust the holes laterally- too bad it didn't provide a better pocket hole. I used to absent-mindedly use the wrong pair of holes on the K4.
That was a nice feature. I picked up a K5, review of that coming one day and I see what you mean by possibly using the wrong pair of holes.
I did notice you were driving the bit too fast into the board. that could be the issue. Thanks for the review
That is very possible as I was and still am a beginner in pocket holes. Maybe one of these days I'll go get it and give it another shot but I do really like my Massca jig.
Great 1st video and I was always curious about this one. Thank you
I looked for videos on it as well. Wish I had gotten better video of the tear out but I was mid project and rushed it back to the store. I liked it up until then.
@@4321Woodworking I appreciate that you let us that this happened because it helps people out on if we want to buy it or not. Also I subscribed. 👊
I noticed that the clamping system looks very much like the K4 and the M2, I bet the dust tube? from the 720 would work just fine but modifying the crevice tool would work also
I tried crevice too modification but then required more adapting for the shop vac and in the end I took it back. Have the Massca now and am super happy with it on all accounts including dust collection.
Nice video, good job. I think I'll have to go buy one and test it. I wish it had some type of dust collection.
That's ironic because I had picked up a K5 but returned it and am going to get an Armor based on your review of it. If you do pick it up definitely make a video and do me a favor and see if you get tear out with the bit provided after say a dozen pocket holes and then try a Kreg or Armor bit in it just to see if it tears out. I've heard it's the bit, my theory was that nothing was supporting the board on either side of the hole with this jig. Sorta like why you put a backer board when drilling to prevent tear out. But since I don't own it now I can't test it.
@@4321Woodworking I'll test it and let you know I don't intend to give up my Armor, so far its working out well. I just thought since I tried he 720 and the Armor, I should try it too. Not much else on the market.
There is a video on youtube a guy used a crevice tool for a wet/dry vac wedged it on cut a hole in it for dust collection
I wonder if using a wood bit would have been better.
The bit that comes with it is specifically designed for pocket holes. I have a portable Kreg setup that came with a bit as well as two Masca pocket hole jigs that came with bits and all just drill a little bit better. I honestly don't think it was the bit now having seen many of the other jigs I think it was the lack of support where it drove the hole?
I change from kreg to armor tool jig, armor have a trade in program, you probably spend 10 to 15 Buck more but getting a real jig hihi
Mine me asking which Kreg you had?
@@4321Woodworking i had a k4. I got my armor jig And loving it. I think kreg does have good products but I think he wants too much for his products.
Great review!!! Always wondered about this product.
Thanks Mr. Waggoner.
Enjoyed your video keep up the good work 👍
I was thinking about getting on until you mention the blowout.. Do you think putting painters tape on it would prevent that from happening?
It might help, just more than I was willing to attempt honestly. I ended up getting a Massca M2 and am really happy with that one. Armor, Kreg and Massca all make really good pocket hole jigs and may just be an area that spending a little bit more for a nicer set up may be worth it if that's main joinery using.
I almost bought one of these the other day haha.
Yeah at first I thought it was great and then just kept having same issue. Now that I've used the Massca M2 and know the comparable difference I have to say it's worth the extra $ for the M2 in my opinion.
I’ve had that mini for several years & has served me well. However the plastic depth tabs will wear out & not hold into place. Love overpriced kreg, but this sure is tempting
I have since gone to Massca jig and love it, all metal construction. I've had nothing but good products from Massca so I'd recommend checking them out. I have a couple videos on their products as well.
thank you just bought one
Nice I hope it works out for you. If you get tear out I've been told after the fact now that it could be the bit so maybe try a different brand bit.
So WEN has only two fixed adjustments for differnt thickness of board? Does this make sense? BTW, like your presntation!
Yes, I've seen the WEN in some videos but not hands on yet. And thanks.
@@4321Woodworking it's the same as the hf one. Meaning identical. Maybe they use different drill bits but the design is exactly the same.
Good information. Thanks.
Would a Kreg drill bit work in it . Maybe a junk bit ?
Yes I think would have worked. I just decided rather than buy a new bit and adapt dust collection that I'd get the Kreg K5 as it was on sale.
I got mine a few years back and I regretted it, a lot of wood tear-out, and the holes are too close to the edge if you compare it with the holes made with the Kreg. Also you have to continusly clean the wood chips in order to set more boards flat on the bottom. Unfortunately, I didn't return mine on time so I still have it but never use it again. I will see if I can sell it. I don't recommend this jig to anyone.
CubanArt I've not gotten one BUT Armor has a trade in option and you can get $70 for that Drill Master jig. The link is here: armor-tool.com/make-the-trade/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9YWDBhDyARIsADt6sGaVFacFkTWHRcX9cmwmn-mDoNRcI2kZXnsiVPVupo2GqUOL7b9afXEaAhxVEALw_wcB
I've heard good things about that Armor but again not gotten one yet. Just an option and depending on what sale you hit $70 may be more than you paid for that drill master ;) But it does leave you moving to a single next option that isn't necessarily inexpensive option but getting $70 off of it. Reviews of it say it's better than the 720 pro
@@4321Woodworking This sounds pretty good, thanks for the link.
This may seem like a crazy question, but is that Harbor Freight you went to in Rochester, MN? I swear it looks exactly like the strip mall mine is in!
Yep it was, I live in the Rochester area.
@@4321Woodworking ha ha that is crazy that was all it took. Gotta love Harbor Freight man!
@@nicholasataylor I've got lots of Harbor Freight in my shop. That jig may not have worked out well for me but the Hercules Miter saw is a workhorse and accurate. My entire clamp collection is HF at the moment. Thanks for watching by the way and is crazy small world.
@@4321Woodworking I for sure need to get some of their clamps.