Great work! The little Feller you put on top of the unit was the little Feller that wired it blew across the roof when he wired wrong. Moral of the story do it right the first time
And use a lock out devise at the main shutoff. What a pain going from the RTU to inside electrical shut off. I hate bad installations nothing but problems too bad you can’t charge extra for that.
Minor point, on the breaker screw down terminals I think they are limited to only one wire per screw down. there are just too many things on that unit that need to be sorted out.
York, Johnson Controls, any of their sub brand units should be made absolutely illegal in all the countries of the world. They are the WORST manufactured units I have ever seen, poorly built, poorly designed, almost no serviceability and break more often than a Goodman unit. Target recently made a deal with York a couple years back, and have been eating it since, from only having a few calls a month, to stores calling for a guy every week. Ridiculous. Also yeah I always check for power, I’ve made it a habit because i have felt 240 before, very briefly. Great video!
I do target work too and luckily for my area we don’t have any York’s just Aaon Lennox and carrier and I’m so glad . I agree 100% York is complete junk they are worst brand in the industry
wow Rick, shocking video! that is some hack repair work someone did! Those are the worst Heat Exchanger to replace.... I have a couple to do next week, hopefully it will make for a nice video.
Great vid Slick Rick and what made it even greater was that shot of an EMD SD40 -2 locomotive ... One has to be very careful around electricity ... Thnx ...
I know Johnson Controls bought out York . The higher grade industry is named Johnson and medium size RTU' s is York .That is at the University that Work at.
ZAP ZAP, ZAP. good reason to only have one hand/forearm in contact with any wiring/grounded object at once, of course insulated boots/shoes and still double check power is off! I do not trust the non-contact testers further than I can drop them from laying on the floor :)) I used the earliest models of them in the 90's(as a sparky) and over trusted them and got zapped more than once! not that I didn't wire live most of the time anyway(residential), I expected power to be off and grabbed handfuls of live, causing me to jive! ;) it was about then I learned to back up the contactless tester up with with physical connected meter and always treat every wire as live. yes I've zapped myself many thousands of times over the years, dealing with a mixture of partial rewired homes which still have knob and tube mixed in, sharing neutral conductors of replaced and grounded outlets. nothing like getting a zap off what should be a dead neutral
Johnstone to York is like Heil/Comfort maker to Carrier. im glad your ok after getting that big of a shock! i got stuck on a capacitor once and that sucked donkey dicks.
Great Vid about being safe in our industrie! wow that could have seriously injured a young tech. I hate these stoogies! that mess around with units that they have no experience working on. I would report that on my invoice and let the people know that take care of the building that an unexperience person worked on the unit!
The maintenance guy was a older guy that just had his knees replaced so he didn't go up on the roof. I'm glad it wasn't him getting nailed. It might have been worse.
That’s a maintenance man hack job there. I got shocked after a maintenance man cut a ground strap on a rooftop unit. One of the power wires had rubbed on the case and shorted to ground. The maintenance guy was too lazy to look for the short.
Is it just me or did the unit allow way too much gas to flow into the chamber at 9:40? I would assume that not detecting ignition should shut the gas off fairly quickly.
10:54 when you turn it on it'll be on a 5 min start up delay which I hate too bad. There Johnson controls but we all know reality of it is a York. I do a lot of them commercial wise. Good videos though 👌
Very nice video, especially the part about electrical safety.. Where did you get the magnetic strap for your fluke meter? I've trying to get one for my Fluke 325.
I had a ref, fryer, grill, and commercial repair gut. He went to a small town, got up on the roof touched the door to open it, and got electrocuted. Not sure of the specifics but there were a few major lawsuits. I finely a ref. guy I could trust and this happens this happened approx 2007
Wow...great place for a gas shut off valve...although I don't know why they put it after the "T" instead of going to the unit. People these days cut corners and it's pretty sad...
You got power on the motor leads with contactor de-energized? Kinda hard to follow you jumping around, must a got charged up! So the breaker is good, just missing set screw?
Correct the breaker was fine, they must of lost the screw or they stripped it out? They wired one leg of power strait to the contactor bypassing the breaker so it was live on one leg with the breaker off.
@@HVACRSurvival Usually those colors are the case. But other than white, green, and gray, as far as I know the NEC does NOT indicate hot conductor colors as long as it is consistent throughout the building. In my area most commercial buildings do use the BOY and BRB scheme. However, there is a big piece of federal property in this area that uses an entirely different standard because a lot of it was constructed pre-1950 and they don't want to change the standard. Always check you individual work site to ensure you know what the colors mean.
It should have been on the feed going to the system but it didn't have one there, it was located on the main line and there was another gas system after this one. You end up killing both systems when you only want one.
@@HVACRSurvival Hey buddy, i work for JCI. They do own YORK, which is why this unit looks exactly like a york, because it is lol JCI actually does not make auto batteries anymore. They sold that part of the company back in 18 i believe and puchased fire and security companies Tyco and Simplex grimmel. JCI goal is to become a one stop shop for building climate, security and fire solutions. There has even been talk of adding a janitorial company and so on. You in ohio? I work at the dublin branch of JCI, i feel like you are in ohio lol
@@SgtTanPants Do you do fire alarm or HVAC at JCI? I've been trying to acquire an old legacy Simplex fire panel. Like a 4002, 4004, or 4005. Not sure if you come across them.
Because F the next guy. I mean, if you need to do something like that you need to leave GIANT notes on the unit. Or, better yet, come back next day and fix it.
This was a good reminder to always check the power is dead. This could have caused a life threatening issue if the wrong person got shocked.
Your absolutely right 👍👍
It would have been life-threatening with the right person too....😂
Great work! The little Feller you put on top of the unit was the little Feller that wired it blew across the roof when he wired wrong. Moral of the story do it right the first time
Hoooooly cow. That is crazy what they did. I am not an electrician either, but that is CRAZY
Good video. Glad no one got hurt with that electrical mess
Awesome video Rick- I love when I find abandoned rooftop toys
Life is GOOD 😊👍👍
Good video 👍👍 I was told by an older technician to always turn off power yourself and not to trust others when it comes to electricity.
Good advice and the other is to touch the system with the back of your hand when approaching it. In this case it was my fault for not verifying.
And use a lock out devise at the main shutoff. What a pain going from the RTU to inside electrical shut off. I hate bad installations nothing but problems too bad you can’t charge extra for that.
Minor point, on the breaker screw down terminals I think they are limited to only one wire per screw down. there are just too many things on that unit that need to be sorted out.
I 'll go more into figuring that out when I go back, hopefully it wont be raining then.
York, Johnson Controls, any of their sub brand units should be made absolutely illegal in all the countries of the world. They are the WORST manufactured units I have ever seen, poorly built, poorly designed, almost no serviceability and break more often than a Goodman unit. Target recently made a deal with York a couple years back, and have been eating it since, from only having a few calls a month, to stores calling for a guy every week. Ridiculous. Also yeah I always check for power, I’ve made it a habit because i have felt 240 before, very briefly. Great video!
I do target work too and luckily for my area we don’t have any York’s just Aaon Lennox and carrier and I’m so glad . I agree 100% York is complete junk they are worst brand in the industry
Only you can prevent HVAC fires 🔥 lol
wow Rick, shocking video! that is some hack repair work someone did! Those are the worst Heat Exchanger to replace.... I have a couple to do next week, hopefully it will make for a nice video.
I think that they make everything 230v even though the input power is 460v so it draws half the current, so they can have thinner wires ect. .
Right after the train sounded it’s horn in your video the train near me started sounding it’s horn lol
One of those weird deja Vu things huh 😂🙈
Whomever bypassed the breaker like that needs to have whatever license they might have had revoked.
Great vid Slick Rick and what made it even greater was that shot of an EMD SD40 -2 locomotive ... One has to be very careful around electricity ... Thnx ...
I know Johnson Controls bought out York . The higher grade industry is named Johnson and medium size RTU' s is York .That is at the University that Work at.
Nice find like I say double checking ain't bad at all...
ZAP ZAP, ZAP. good reason to only have one hand/forearm in contact with any wiring/grounded object at once, of course insulated boots/shoes and still double check power is off! I do not trust the non-contact testers further than I can drop them from laying on the floor :))
I used the earliest models of them in the 90's(as a sparky) and over trusted them and got zapped more than once! not that I didn't wire live most of the time anyway(residential), I expected power to be off and grabbed handfuls of live, causing me to jive! ;)
it was about then I learned to back up the contactless tester up with with physical connected meter and always treat every wire as live. yes I've zapped myself many thousands of times over the years, dealing with a mixture of partial rewired homes which still have knob and tube mixed in, sharing neutral conductors of replaced and grounded outlets. nothing like getting a zap off what should be a dead neutral
Johnstone to York is like Heil/Comfort maker to Carrier. im glad your ok after getting that big of a shock! i got stuck on a capacitor once and that sucked donkey dicks.
👍👍Thanks DA!
Great Vid about being safe in our industrie! wow that could have seriously injured a young tech. I hate these stoogies! that mess around with units that they have no experience working on. I would report that on my invoice and let the people know that take care of the building that an unexperience person worked on the unit!
The maintenance guy was a older guy that just had his knees replaced so he didn't go up on the roof. I'm glad it wasn't him getting nailed. It might have been worse.
That’s a maintenance man hack job there. I got shocked after a maintenance man cut a ground strap on a rooftop unit. One of the power wires had rubbed on the case and shorted to ground. The maintenance guy was too lazy to look for the short.
Nice job and video like always
That motor sounds like someone feeding silverware to a garbage disposal lol.....
Yeah it's had better days. I just got the new one today. Need to go back and put it on.
Good one Rick, your only human
Sometimes 😲🙈
Wow that motor is really healthy. Holy crap that 3 phase
That was the worse bearing issue I have seen in a blower motor.
It even wobbled wen you turned it on . That's a new one for me
@@joea2274 it was really bad.
You sound like Owen Wison...cool
Is it just me or did the unit allow way too much gas to flow into the chamber at 9:40? I would assume that not detecting ignition should shut the gas off fairly quickly.
Great video today, thanks !!
Thanks Ted!
Service Switch: I've seen many units that have the service switch built into the units like the one your working on.
Johnson Controls and York has been nose diving for years around here.
10:54 when you turn it on it'll be on a 5 min start up delay which I hate too bad. There Johnson controls but we all know reality of it is a York. I do a lot of them commercial wise. Good videos though 👌
Thanks Alex for checking it out👍👍
thanks for the good content! keep up the good videos!
Thanks, have a good Thanksgiving!
Very nice video, especially the part about electrical safety..
Where did you get the magnetic strap for your fluke meter?
I've trying to get one for my Fluke 325.
Ouch! That wouldn’t be good if you shocked yourself!
This is why you should always check the power before cutting wires or else this would happen.
That's a damn death trap.
Yea it kind of pissed me off. I'd like to of smacked whoever did that in the head with my plyers.
Unbelievable they left it that way with no disconnect on top of bypassed breaker.
Back in the 80’s, I used to see this sort of haphazard wiring done by maintenance men.
Lock it out and Condem it!!
Ouch good video
Tell me about it
1:53 nothing like that crunchy goodness
4:41 oh sh!t, all bets are off...
5:34 some people's kids man! How did it even last this long with this kind of crapmanship
8:55 OK, I have to ask, what do you say on this write up? Personally I would write the truth with pictures to document or something.
It's been almost a year, I explained it to the maintenance guy, I believe it was someone they hired. And they're no longer there
ya, its a rebranded York, just like champion, guardian, luxaire, coleman, tempmaster, quantech, ect.
Good deeds, good work " I'm confused how to say🤔😅😅😅😅"
I get the point👍👍. It's a situation that should of never happened.
I had a ref, fryer, grill, and commercial repair gut. He went to a small town, got up on the roof touched the door to open it, and got electrocuted. Not sure of the specifics but there were a few major lawsuits. I finely a ref. guy I could trust and this happens this happened approx 2007
Wow that's bad news. Luckily I haven't had that happen to me yet.
@@HVACRSurvival ...yet? Let's hope it never will :)
Jeez its scary to see shoddy work like that people just don't give a shit now
Tight for servicing with the wall in the way. Could it be an issue in the future changing the heat exchanger in the future. Thxs for the vids!
Yeah, I was going to check the heat exchanger when I came back, maybe I won't LOL. just kidding 😂
Wow...great place for a gas shut off valve...although I don't know why they put it after the "T" instead of going to the unit. People these days cut corners and it's pretty sad...
You got power on the motor leads with contactor de-energized? Kinda hard to follow you jumping around, must a got charged up! So the breaker is good, just missing set screw?
Correct the breaker was fine, they must of lost the screw or they stripped it out? They wired one leg of power strait to the contactor bypassing the breaker so it was live on one leg with the breaker off.
@@sjefoekel6058 that and there was another wire ran directly to the in coming power leg of the breaker that fed something, I didn't record that part.
When looking at a rats nest; gotta figure that something is hot.
Pulley on motor needs replacing too!
3 phase 460/480-volt colors are BOY...brown, orange, yellow. 3 phase 208/240-volts colors are BRB, black, red, blue.
Good Info to remember👍👍
@@HVACRSurvival Usually those colors are the case. But other than white, green, and gray, as far as I know the NEC does NOT indicate hot conductor colors as long as it is consistent throughout the building. In my area most commercial buildings do use the BOY and BRB scheme. However, there is a big piece of federal property in this area that uses an entirely different standard because a lot of it was constructed pre-1950 and they don't want to change the standard. Always check you individual work site to ensure you know what the colors mean.
That dirty bastard. Reminds me to be more diligent. Thanks
Very dangerous Jerry rigging going on with that electrical.
why the gas stop ?
It should have been on the feed going to the system but it didn't have one there, it was located on the main line and there was another gas system after this one. You end up killing both systems when you only want one.
@@HVACRSurvival ok. thanks for upload Rick. happy thanksgiving.
Johnson controls owns everthing. They even make batteries now.
I haven't heard that but it doesn't surprise me.
@@HVACRSurvival alot of car batteries are made by johnson controls.
@@HVACRSurvival Hey buddy, i work for JCI. They do own YORK, which is why this unit looks exactly like a york, because it is lol JCI actually does not make auto batteries anymore. They sold that part of the company back in 18 i believe and puchased fire and security companies Tyco and Simplex grimmel. JCI goal is to become a one stop shop for building climate, security and fire solutions. There has even been talk of adding a janitorial company and so on.
You in ohio? I work at the dublin branch of JCI, i feel like you are in ohio lol
@@SgtTanPants Do you do fire alarm or HVAC at JCI? I've been trying to acquire an old legacy Simplex fire panel. Like a 4002, 4004, or 4005. Not sure if you come across them.
@@dylsmith2336 No sir, I do building automation, I never see fire equipment
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auto assumes no indoor blower :))
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Thanks HD👍👍
Johnson Controls owns York
Good to know! Thanks
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Hahahahahaha JCI aka York Sunline. Thise units are junk, heat exchanger is a pain to replace. Screws in the most difficult spots to get to.
I noticed that, luckily I haven't been back to work on any more of their stuff.
Why do people leave things unsafe
Because F the next guy. I mean, if you need to do something like that you need to leave GIANT notes on the unit. Or, better yet, come back next day and fix it.
Two reasons, they don't know what they're doing, and they don't care.
@@larrykeenan598 Or they damaged it and didn't want to take responsibility.
@@analogmoz The "F.... IT" factor seams to be the American way anymore unfortunately.
@@HVACRSurvival I did notice the broken spot at the top of the breaker.
Johnson Controls bought Lux and is ruining the company.
Those units may be the worst design out there. It is york JCI just puts there name on it, I've seen a lot of those down here. Great video!
York is absolutely the worst....
i truly believe this planet will be a better place without york RTU and some of the old carrier ..just saying
Oh no its a dorky york