Ejection 203 - Bill Welke Ejects Brian Snitker After Charlie Culberson's Bunt Injury
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- 1B Umpire Bill Welke ejected Atlanta Manager Brian Snitker after a strike call during batter Charlie Culberson’s injurious bunt attempt in Washington. Ejection report: www.closecalls...
The two relevant rules pertain to the definitions of BUNT and STRIKE. Succinctly, if the batter has intended to meet the ball with the bat, it is a missed bunt; if the batter has struck at the ball and missed, it is a strike. In either of these cases (with less than two strikes), it would be a dead ball strike since the pitch hit the batsman. However, if neither of these cases apply (batter didn't attempt to bunt and didn't strike at the ball), it is a hit-by-pitch with a standard base award.
Related concept article & Official Baseball Rules explanation: www.closecalls... 
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Completely off topic comment, but I love Ron Washington in this video.
Leadership
He had his boys back. Told him he was gonna be okay 👌
Agreed. Ron is a class act. The man loves his players.
great coach, great manager.
Ron Washingyon is not only an Atlanta treasure, he's a national treasure.
He did pull the bat away. The ball never struck the bat. This was a HBP all the way!
He moved the bat toward the pitch. That is a strike all the way!
wash fans were good through this, thanks nats fans..classy
Braves fan here, definitely good on the Nats faithful, had we been in Philly or the Bronx for that matter, I don’t think Charlie would have gotten the same respect! Which is truly a shame. You know that hurt.
some of the nats players showed good sportsmanship and class like the bullpen guys
JOHN RMIREZ , I was at the game, the players went down to one knee in the field. Rodney was visibly shaken and our catcher Read came out to him.
@@ronaldperrell8291 I agree they showed good sportsmanship
Got to love snitker 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 he has love for his players
no he doesnt.. he shouldve been checking on culberson instead, not arguing with the umpire
@@lalakerspro he was checking on him. He was arguing after Charlie was carted off
Taking up for your players is one thing but what do you want Timmons to do? Give a ball as sympathy? I hate that Charlie got smoked but he was attempting to bunt the ball…that’s a strike!!!
Then why does he never stick up for Acuna when he gets thrown at?
Ron Washington first guy out there, great baseball guy and a wonderful human being, As a kid he was the Manager of the Gastonia Rangers, he signed all of my cards, Stood and talked to me 15 minutes, he didn't have to
great story :)
Atleast Charlie caught it off the cheek bone instead of his mouth, which was what I first thought. We love ya Charlie!
I don't know if cheek bone is better then mouth. Mouth, you lose some teeth and maybe break your jaw. Cheek bone, you are talking possible eye socket and vision damage.
At first I thought the ball struck his eye directly. Thank God...
Alex H True, 91 to the face is never good no matter what. Not many good places to get hit obviously
I would never want to get hit where you hit flesh and bone directly.
I was at the game and it looked scary. Wouldn't even show the replay on the megatron.
Guitarman 4000 Sounded like that’s what happened though. At one point you could hear the crowd gasp.
Guitarman 4000 I was there too, it was shocking
it would have been inappropriate to show a replay of his injury
Me too
Thank God it wasn't a 96+mph pitch or that could've been even worse
It was
You gotta love how the home plate umpire immediately motioned for someone, and Washington comforting Culberson. That poor devil.
Oof, an ejection and a cart off the field injury at the same time. Rare
Thank goodness!!
Nats Coach: Soo is that a strike??
Blue: Yup!
Brave's Coach: Shame on you! Shame on you!!!!!
Correct call, ejection was proper. Arguing balls and strikes get you booted every time.
Ron Washington is a class act!!!!!!!!
Hmmm it feels like he pulled the bat up? Maybe he was trying to stop the ball with it but realized it was too late
If I were the pitcher I would take myself out of the game.
Snitker needed a Snickers after getting tossed.
I don't think that the ball ever hit the bat
Hell no it didn’t
Kyle Anderson no but he was squared around even to protect himself it doesn’t matter still an attempt
It's a swinging strike as the batter attempted to bunt and missed.
PGOLDEN88 he didn’t attempt to bunt. He literally never offered.
Willi Tee squaring up to bunt is considered attempting to bunt
The way pitches come at people's heads these days, I'm wondering if batters need to start wearing the "hockey helmet" style helmets with full face protection. Hitting a guy where this batter got hit can break the orbital area around the eye and that'll sit you down for a while. And some guys get hit and never really recover. There have been some awful hit-by-pitches, Kirby Puckett getting his jaw broken by Dennis Martinez, and Giancarlo Stanton getting teeth knocked out of his mouth and having to be carted off the field on his side because he was bleeding so badly into his mouth. Full up helmets would prevent that, since we obviously can't keep pitchers from throwing at someone's head ("Oh, it slipped, wuzzent intentional..." yeah right).
Bruh I swear, Rooney literally hits everyone in the face
I will forever hate Dave Martinez for the classless act of acting if he swung
That Snitker manager reminds me the days of Earl Weaver.
Just think about when you are laying in bed on your cell phone and you accidentally drop it and it hits you in the face how bad it hurts. Then do the math. He’s very very lucky to be able to see and smell much less still be playing baseball.
Yeah that’s good
I don't blame Snitker at all. Yes Culberson offered but since the the ball was coming right at his face he was had no opportunity to back the offering off. It's common sense that a 91 mph pitch coming right at your face gives you no opportunity to get out of the way much less take off the bunt. That's the problem with judgment calls, if the judge has no common sense it's doomed call from the start.
Greg Albanese he didn’t offer at the ball... pitcher should’ve been tossed for intentionally beaming a player who squared to bunt. Really hope the Braves beam a nat in the head the next opportunity they get.
Greg Albanese he threw high and inside to someone he knew was squaring to bunt. You’d have to be oblivious or a Nat’s fan to think it wasn’t intentional. Pitch was nowhere close to a strike and CC had no time to react. Didn’t offer at the ball. Braves should throw one at Soto or Rendon’s head their next at bat.
Greg Albanese there a difference between up and in and nailing someone in the face. If this guy doesn’t have the control to do that he wouldn’t be in the mlb. The pitch was nowhere close, no mlb pitcher is that bad.
Greg Albanese the only reason there’d be no retaliation is if the Braves want to win the division and don’t want a suspension. If they are fine with just a post season birth, then there will be. He also never stabbed at it, he just tried to move but didn’t have time. If I was snitker I’d call up a non needed pitcher and have him throw one at Soto or Rendon. They should catch one in the ear, but since I’m not classless like the nats they’d just get it off the back.
Greg Albanese lol. A major league pitcher doesn’t miss like that. Again, if he doesn’t have the control to throw inside without hitting a batter in he face, he shouldn’t be throwing inside. So he’s either terrible or it was intentional.
3:05 he has a reason to yell. He should get a runner at first
No, Culberson moved the bat in an attempt to bunt the ball. Strike all day.
@@alanhess9306 Uhmm no
@@needtoknowbasiss Uhmm yes. You don't know what a strike is do you?
@@alanhess9306 You are wrong. Get over it
@@needtoknowbasiss I am not wrong. You don't understand any movement of the bat toward the pitch is an attempt. You don't know squat about baseball.
Announcer has no clue. The ball did not hit the bat and I believe that the batter was trying to get out of the way. He was not making an attempt to hit the ball.HIT BATSMAN. The y missed this one.
Once a batter squares around to bunt, if he doesn't pull the bat back it is an attempt to bunt and the proper call is a strike.
WTH was Snitker arguing?
He was probably arguing that it was a hit-by-pitch, which would give the batter (or his substitute) 1st base. However, the umps ruled it was a bunt attempt, hence a strike, meaning the at-bat continues with (in this case) a new batter facing a 1-strike count.
@@jsoqbwbeks2653, tell Snitker and/or the ump.
Washington feeling his players up 👀
Nah, just comforting him.
Ik Charlie in real life because he and my media center teacher are really good friends so this sucks😂
I've seen something similar to this, except it went into Nick Dini's (KC Royals player, when he was in triple A) in to his face, showing no bunt though.
Pitch looked high and inside to me. No way that was a strike. It was a beanball.
Culberson moved the bat toward the pitch. That's an attempt, strike is the correct call.
This is why ill never have respect for Dave Martinez. Man is laying on the ground bleeding from his face while he walks over to the ump and says that is a strike. Classless 🤡
This is still so wrong. Still the ball never touch the bat. Hard to Watch
He offered at the pitch. That is a strike.
@@alanhess9306 not the point.
According to current rules yes it most likely was but that doesn't mean that I like the rule. Getting hit anywhere in the head or face is my point of focus. Whither or not he swung at the ball is 2nd or even 3rd on my list here. The pitcher was trying to get culbertson to pop up the bunt and that didn't happen. Charlie pulled back and the ball hit him in the face. But all I care about NOW years later is Charlie Culbertson was hit in the face. I don't care about details about him swinging or not. I have took a hits to the head and face from a Baseball and they can really mess up your day. I was just trying to say that I hope that Charlie ok. Don't worry about the the the pitch being a strike or not.
@@lazycat3562 Yes it is the point. People are arguing over whether or not he offered at the pitch. I believe he moved the bat toward the ball. That is an attempt.
@@alanhess9306 no, you are not reading what I am saying. You are under the impression that I am talking primarily about the swing and I am Not. I no LONGER give a Rats hind end about that. I care more about INJURY than anything else at this point. It's a rule and in with a few others a stupid one at that. But I NOT going to go back and debate whither or Not culbertson swung or not. The umpireas made their call and the Braves challenged it and lost their appeal but it didn't matter anyway because they stomp the crap out the Nationals in that game anyway.
He would have made an attempt to pull the bat back, but the ball prevented him from doing such...
Says a lot about the people in DC the way they acted... I should know, I live among these cretins.
LOL
What is wrong with how the fans acted, they were classy about it?
Such a punk move by the Nats pitcher. A five-game suspension, and $100,000 fine needed here. The season-long fear of retaliatory plunkings is appropriate.
Looked like it hit in the orbital area or just below it.
That’s freaking pathetic you just got your player hit in the face with a 90 mph fastball and Brian goes out there and the fans start booing so pathetic them fans have no sympathy at all that’s freaking pathetic Brian should be saying that’s pathetic to the fans for clapping when he got booed I mean they literally were clapping for Charlie and as soon as Brian goes out there he gets booed imagine you getting hit in the face and your coach is standing up for you and he’s getting booed pathetic fan base
Snitker deserved it for delaying the game with his antics, learn the rules
OMG!
I don’t care what the call was I’m just annoyed the announcer never corrected himself about it coming off the bat into his face. I’m not saying it was definitely intentional but the ball left his hand and went on a straight line at his face and never touched the bat.
You’re taught to pitch up in order to induce a pop up. Did he intentionally pitch up and possibly in? Most likely. Was he trying to hit him in the face? No way.
@@bradt7451 Yeah, pitchers don’t try to hit you in the face, just come close.
Incredible that the umpire called it a strike- Culberson made no effort to move the bat!! Reminds me of the Infield fly call against the Braves years ago in the Wild card game vs St Louis.
By rule, an attempted bunt is a strike.
@@arimfshapiro7907 There was no attempt.
@@briantappen5260 Absolutely there was an attempt, between 3:42 and 3:43 he moves the bat slightly upward to try to meet the ball. Granted it was probably a self defense move as he was trying to not get hit in the face but he still attempted to move the bat between him and the ball. Valid strike call.
@@briantappen5260,
You square to bunt and leave the bat out there, IT'S AN ATTEMPT.
The infield fly call was correct.
Timmons wasn't going to run Snitker...I'm not at all being critical but I have a real hard time with that being called a swing...I've umpired and enjoy watching pro guys work so I have a lot of respect for them. No way I could handle that level...
A bunt is by definition a swing, he wasn't able to pull back proper so under the outlines of the law... Sadly a swing, you hate to see it. Reminds me of when Giancarlo swung at a pitch and was beaned RIGHT in the face.
You hat to see it but if it happens that's the rule, you can't change it just because somebody gets hurt
@@TeemoQuinton It isn't a matter of someone getting hurt but rather someone getting HIT. If a batter offers a check swing, it is a strike or ball if, IN THE JUDGMENT OF THE UMPIRE, the batter intended (I don't know if, by rule, that is the correct term) to swing or not. Contrary to popular belief, there is no going over the plate or any of that nonsense. It is a judgment call. Here, a very fast pitch is coming at the batter and he's squared to bunt. Proper judgment SHOULD dictate that he's no longer going to bunt but is in a defensive position, regardless of what he does with his bat. This was not a strike and should have been a HBP. However, with that said, it wasn't worth an ejection. It certainly wasn't worth losing his shit over. Go out, make your case, then if it doesn't work, go sit down and tell the pinch hitter to get a hit. How in the freak hard is that? Why must everything devolve into unsportsmanlike behavior? This horseshit filters down to the lower levels to the point where everyone thinks it is OK.
That is incorrect. That was not a strike.
Unless he pulls back, it’s a strike. Considering the ball hit him square in the face, it’s safe to say he didn’t pull back to a neutral batting stance.
Definitely not a strike he didn't offer at the pitch or break his wrist to swing
@Greg Albanese your blind and probably don't know anything about baseball
He doesn't have to pull the bat back, but it's still a strike. He made a self defense move to put the bat between him and the ball, ergo he offered at the pitch thus a strike. Pretty straightforward call.
If a player doesn’t like the pitch, he pulls the bat back before it gets there and if it isn’t in the strike zone, it is called a ball. If the batter clearly tried to make contact or if the umpire feels he made an attempt to make contact, it is called a strike. If the hitter has the bat extended out for a bunt and the pitch hits him, it is called a strike.
He had the bat out and the ball hit him that’s a strike in the last part of the above paragraph. He also moves the bat to make contact with the ball in my opinion that also makes it a strike.
I could care less if Welke is the crew chief....this wasn't his argument so he shouldn't have any right to toss Snitker. Welke has always been a horrible ump
Any umpire on the field has the authority to eject any player, coach or manager. Snitker was pathetically wrong.
@@billybob042665 Any movement of the bat toward the pitch , which there was, is an attempt. The umpire was correct.
Prayers
That was fucking epic xD because they won 10-1 made the Nationals bend over
P. S is it bad that I laughed when he got hit? ;-;
I mean you square up to bunt, that’s what I was always told to do. I’m not gonna let you get the ball down.
That’s chickenshit
It wasn't a strike I dont give a damn what you put up there.he pulled the bat back
Nope
Ron Washington took advantage of these young man!
That's the way baseball go
🙏🏾❤️💪🏾
THIS WAS NOT A STRIKE, PERIOD. Simply squaring around to bunt merely indicates the INTENTION to bunt, not an "attempt" to bunt because the batter can pull his bat back before the ball reaches the plate thereby completely removing even the intention to bunt. Attempting to bunt is moving the bat toward the ball as it reaches the plate, and the batter did not move his bat at all from the position he held it before the pitch was even thrown. How can you swing at a pitch before it leaves the pitcher's hand?! WAKE UP, PEOPLE.
You are 1000% wrong.
That was not a strike period the bat didn't go forward to hit the ball...So if u hv a check swing and get hit...u don't get first base is a strike... worst call ever!
Joseph Alvarez he was squared around doesn’t have to go after it
@@kurumauzamaki2731 it doesn't matter whether ur square ,triangle , rectangle, worst call! They should have review the play... period. ESPN gave a great explanation on this.
Joseph Alvarez yes it does matter because squaring around means you mean to go after the ball which is a strike if you don’t at least try to pull back it’s gonna be called a bunt attempt it doesn’t seem like the right call because he was hit in the head but by the rule he did make an attempt
Kuruma Uzamaki yeah because you you’re trying to pull back while trying to get out of the way of a 91 mph fastball.
Trace Woods I know it’s hard I don’t think it should count but it’s the rule
It was thrown way out of the pitching zone it looks like. Correct me if I am wrong. Almost like an intentioinal throw at the batter.
that has to hurt. i liked it when he was on the dodgers. LETS GO DODGERS
The dude stepped into the ball.
Not a strike!
@Greg Albanese he pulled the bat back. Not a strike
@Greg Albanese hit did not offer at the pitch, plus it was coming at his face, he had no where to go
@Greg Albanese I know how baseball works, and he never even tried to "stab" at the ball
That was intentional to me. 100%
For what purpose would he hit the bottom of the lineup to load the bases for the lead off batter in a tie game? Use your fucking head.
Definitely not intenonial
It wasn't intentional at all
Sorry Hamilton got hurt but bottom line MLB ballplayers don’t know how to bunt anymore. If Hamilton did he still might have been hit but he wouldn’t have taken it off his face!
I saw something earlier this year that teams aren't teaching their players how to bunt anymore. Which is such a shame.
Hamilton was on 2nd. Culberson got hit. I'm not really seeing how this indicates a lack of bunting ability. I don't get your comment. How does this indicate that Charlie doesn't know how to bunt? That ball tailed in pretty quick. It's like saying, if a guy gets hit by a pitch in a regular at bat, that he doesn't know how to hit. Doesn't make sense. I'll agree that MLB players don't bunt much any more, but I think that's because the new ball makes home runs so much easier that the managers just don't see the percentage in bunting anymore. Doesn't mean the players can't do it.
First of all, it was Culberson who got hit. Pay attention. Secondly, I’d really enjoy seeing you trying to get out of the way of a 91 mph fastball coming directly at your face while you’re squared around to bunt. This had nothing to do with Culberson’s “inability” to bunt.
What??? 1st of all Charlie Culberson got hit not Hamilton. 2nd, you cant do anything about the bunt when the balls is coming at your face
@@weswhite5715 Bunting has now been shown to work less honestly. It as usually an easy out unless there is a shift or you have a super fast runner bunting.
This was crazy. And I don’t think it was a strike
@UChdAwVXWavm4ADHZaEnJmJQ doesn't matter if youre a braves fan. He did not offer at the pitch, doesnt matter if he didn't pull the bat back. Not a strike.
@@jodinicole2975 Missed bunt IS a strike. Perhaps you need to read it.
@@satan4777 It wasn't that long ago that this would be a ball. You could turn and have the bat out there, but it was considered a ball unless you then made a further effort to go after it.
Nowadays, having the bat out there is ruled a strike unless you pull the bat back.
@@PriceRight89 He had NO chance of getting out of the way of the ball. Next time you need to get in batters box and try to get out of the way of a hard fastball. Batters have been like sitting ducks here for awhile
PriceRight89
That was not offering at the pitch, that was self-defense!!!
It's actually a "missed bunt" which then, the call should be "hit by pitch" and a base awarded. Since he did not strike at the ball and miss (which would then be a swinging strike).
If you watch closely, the batter retracts the bat before the ball made contact with his face...thus, according to the definition of a bunt, it is then a missed bunt, since no contact was intended (ie. He pulled the bat away)!
Bad call by the umps, which has become the norm in MLB recently!
He didn't pull the bat away, he made an effort to place the bat between him and the ball as self defense...ergo attempted to hit the ball = strike.
Incorrect. Read the rules
It was intentional. The Nats are a dirty team. Any other pitcher on any other team would've been ejected from the game for throwing at somebody's face like that.
Come on, man. No way that was intentional. Did you see how the pitcher reacted? You can't just throw around irresponsible accusations like that. You can see Culberson giving him the thumbs up from the cart to tell him no hard feelings. Every terrible thing that happens doesn't have to be somebody's fault.
I know the 'rule junkies" will argue but, but, but (including obviously the creator of this video).....but holy crap, would anybody have said a word if they had called that a HBP? On what is essentially a judgement call, it sure seems like the umps chose the "let's put the focus on us" route, once again....
Sorry, but if there is a rule that says that what the batter did is a strike, then it's the ump's job to call it a strike, regardless of what happens. Did you see how fast the HP ump reacted in waving to the Braves' dugout for medical help to come out? That's hardly an ump looking for camera time.
If you break down the play, it appeared he was pulling the bat back (albeit in self defense)...the reality is that the batter basically had no chance to get out of the way of the pitch, took a pitch in the face....and then had his team get penalized on a judgement call that could have (should have?) gone in their favor? All I'm saying is I doubt the Nats would have complained if that had been ruled a HBP.....
@@rc24caldwell19 He wasn't pulling the bat backward in self defense, he moved it up to attempt to deflect the ball away from his face. That means he offered at it thus it's a strike.
Wrong. It's umpire's job to call the rules as they are, not as you or I think they should be. That's exactly what this umpire did.
@@larrycopeland2413 The key phrase in the rule book is "... intentionally met and tapped slowly in the infield." Definition of a bunt in the rule book. Did he intentionally meet the ball with his bat or attempt to meet the ball with the bat or tap the ball with his bat? I don't think he made an attempt to bunt the ball. In that case it is a HBP. Easy to say watching the replay. Think about it. You could literally hold the bat over the plate, not move it and if it isn't in the strike zone could be called a ball.
As per usual, MLB umpires make the wrong call. Color me shocked .....
The umpire was correct. I color you wrong.
I think it was intentional. Pitcher knew he was bunting a pitched right at him.
Tim WALLACE , I guess you don’t know much about baseball.
@Greg Albanese some people are idiots. Not you Ron
He threw at his face!!! No doubt about it!!!!!
No. He did not. Shut up, woman.
How about you shut the hell up she can say whatever she wants to bc I say he did do it on purpose so he could not move the runner
@@the406seadonkey6 and by the way what the hell does it matter if she is a woman? Man you are just a dumbass
@Georgia Girl, please tell us your sources of how you came to this conclusion?. I was at the game and it was a terrible accident that happened. The Nats pitcher was visibly upset after it happened and his performance after it, confirmed that. Culbertson gave a thumbs up to Rodney when he left the field.
I doubt that he would have have don’t that if he felt it was intentional.
@Greg Albanese bitch I have played baseball over 20 years so what the hell you running your mouth about and a real braves fan would not take up for a pos from another team who was mad he was getting worked but it is what it is but you don't know me so keep my name out your mouth
That was a scary injury, but that wasn't an intentional throw to the face, and per the rules, it had to be called a strike, injury or not. Snitker needlessly got his shorts in a snit, and he should be suspended for his tirade.
And BTW, I'm a KC Royals fan, no dog in this fight.
I can see how it has to be called a strike, but Snitker should be suspended? Seriously? He was defending his player on a call that he felt was wrong. That happens all the time in baseball. Frankly, I like to see managers stand up for their players even if they’re in the wrong. Grow up.
It wasn't needless at all. It was calculated. Managers do this all the time to fire up their teams. And guess what, it worked.
I am telling you the Braves we’re stealing signs here. The batter was obviously looking for a curve ball and got a fast ball. If you steal signs you better damn well be correct or this happens.
No chance that was stealing signs. Hamilton had just checked into the game. If they knew they had the signs my guess is they wouldn’t be bunting. I think it was just a case of the ball continuing to ride up and in and chase him. If anything Rodney was pitching him up and in to try to get a pop up (I’m not suggesting he was intentionally trying to hit him though).
bull rodney knew he was going to bunt
Aaron Garner ok, lets say The Braves were? So what!?!? Stealing signs is just another part of the game. I have no doubt every team tries to steal signs. 🤷♂️
OMG here comes the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist
They were not. Hamilton has just checked in to the game, just stop talking
This was bs.. pitcher did that intentionally
No he didn't
That's dumb
I’m a huge Braves fan and you can see in his face he didn’t mean that. Every pitch after that was hard for him. This got really in his head and you can tell how horrible he felt. He absolutely had no intentions of hurting Colberson.