No reason their should be a handicap and they should stay paired. It will only elevate the level of play in mixed doubles. Why can't the number 2 singles players pair up?
You are right it’s just a matter of time when ever legendary team falls. Now is just a waiting game. Who do you think it will be to take them down? Or is it pair we have not seen before. So many are transferring from tennis. Only time will tell.
This is the stupid thing I have ever heard. When some of the mixed double pairs play continuous together and get used to playing together, maybe then they will bet the best Mixed Double team in pickleball. Watch out for JW and Jorja Johnson or Bright and Ignatowich, they both are looking great for 2024.
It's often good for a sport to have a dominant team. Their opponents elevate their play against them. Personally I love watching them. Ben and his brother Collin are equally dominant in men's doubles.
Now more ex pro tennis players are turning to PickleBall and starting to raise in the rankings. John Sock is one of them. You will see the quality of players raise if the money follows the trend.
This is not unfair at all ... dominant players (and teams) happen from time-to-time - if players do not like it then they need to be get better - it is not unfair. Other teams also to need to keep together longer not change every 3-4 tournaments. Pickleball is in its early stages as a sport, as it grows, dont be surprised if both Ben Johns and AL Waters dont make it to the GOLD metal all the time in 2024. D Schaefer or Christine Maddox (best two handed backhand in pickleball) - should handle AL Waters soon. And D Frazier, C Alshon should be defeating B Johns soon as well. Team these ladies with these men - consistently - and should have less of Ben and AL show. TMcGuffin / MDizon could also do it if they stay together longer than 3 months - Dizon has the fight to blow past AL if she takes up singles - singles play will improve her doubles game.
You make some good points. Dominant players Like Ben and anna demonstrate incredible skill, but as pickleball grows we’ll likely see more competition depth. They will undoubtedly be challenged more and more as the years go on.
I'm trying to remember if Tennis ever had the same dilemma with a dominant 1+1=1 combo that wouldn't leave. Not that I can remember. Mixed doubles is so popular in the recreational pickle population. Eventually they'll want to separate or something like an injury will break it. I say enjoy while it lasts Bud. Cause it never does.
This reminds me of the olden days where there were yells to "Break up the Yankees" or "Break up the Celtics" or "Break up UCLA" (if these don't ring a bell, look up the records of these teams in the 50's and 60's). Personally I love to watch them play. I love to see excellent athletes in action. I have been following AL since the early days when she played Simone Jardim at 12. You could see the potential even back then (look it up. Simone killed her, but you could see the talent).
11:52 there is no reason to break this team up my wife and I look forward to watching them, as any team sports when teams get lucky enough to get players that just gel together work hard by both putting extra Time to make sure they improve their own play thru practice and innovation why should they be penalized.
Thanks for the comment. We are not advocating they be penalized. I’m with you that naturally the talent will have to rise to meet them at the top. Have a great one.
Actually, like most of us, she was two ages in 2019. Since she was born in 2007, she was both 11 and 12. An interesting bit of trivia is that she actually played in her first Pro tournament at age 11, before turning pro at 12.
I do not sit and watch PPA, maybe at a quick glance like these and some tip videos not always their entirety. I'd rather be outside playing Pickleball than watching it. I find that Pickleball keeps Penalizing good players and their overall athleticism, because others can't keep up or execute the same level of play.
It's ultimately a business. Professional teams (baseball, basketball, football, etc) all pay loads of money to get the best players they can so they can win and make more money. I think it would get really complicated if they started making rules about who could play with other players or not, depending on their ranking. I tried to find rules online to see if tennis pros have any restrictions, but in my 30 second search I came up empty. If tennis has those kinds of rules, just use them. If not, let them have their heyday for now. Somebody will come up and replace them at one point.
I agree as the sport grows it will attract more talent. This thing tend to work themselves out over a bit of time. It’s exciting to be watching the sport grow and evolve. Thanks for your input.
Absolutely rubbish !! this is their time, to be at the pinnacle of their chosen sport, it,s up to the rest to improve ( and they will ) we already saw Ben get beat in singles , he,s aware of the struggles ahead , so much fun ahead ...
It looks like Waters only gets to hit the ball 10% of the time. John’s needs to stay on his side of the court and let her play too. Don’t know if the Team dominates or if John’s is simply that good.
Hard to tell for sure. Pickleball is still growing and the purse for each competition is growing each year. Anna and Ben make the majority of their money through endorsements and media. Thanks.
I am a huge fan of this team, I love watching them destroy opponents. However, I can see why maybe they should be broken up, if that’s possible or even legal to do. They really are just too good and I admire the other teams that valiantly oppose them. Maybe two players who are both ranked as number one should not be allowed to be a team. But then what is actually fair?
Thanks for the well thought out comment. I agree, watching these two is an incredible sight to behold. Its a tough situation, on one hand everyone loves to watch greatness and the pursuit of others to try and dethrone the champs. But on the other hand, it may become tiresome and repetitive. Thanks again for stopping by our channel.
I have no objection to their partnership but i think it hurts the game.....i want to see a real challenge in a final match....if i see them together i simply switch channels...
This is asinine. What’s next? It’s unfair that Phelps swims so fast. Gotta make him swim with weights on. Lamar Jackson is too good a player. He’s not allowed to run anymore in NFL games. Lebron James wins too much. He can only play 1 quarter every game.
No reason their should be a handicap and they should stay paired. It will only elevate the level of play in mixed doubles. Why can't the number 2 singles players pair up?
I agree, this should only push the sport in a positive direction and increase the level of play.
You can only be at the top for a limited amount of time. Let them enjoy their time!!
You are right it’s just a matter of time when ever legendary team falls. Now is just a waiting game. Who do you think it will be to take them down? Or is it pair we have not seen before. So many are transferring from tennis. Only time will tell.
This is the stupid thing I have ever heard. When some of the mixed double pairs play continuous together and get used to playing together, maybe then they will bet the best Mixed Double team in pickleball. Watch out for JW and Jorja Johnson or Bright and Ignatowich, they both are looking great for 2024.
Thanks for adding your thoughts. Excited to see how your predictions do this year.
They are beautiful to watch- I love to see them play PICKLEBALL …………PERIOD!
Thanks for leaving a comment. They are pretty incredible.
It's often good for a sport to have a dominant team. Their opponents elevate their play against them. Personally I love watching them. Ben and his brother Collin are equally dominant in men's doubles.
Now more ex pro tennis players are turning to PickleBall and starting to raise in the rankings. John Sock is one of them. You will see the quality of players raise if the money follows the trend.
This is not unfair at all ... dominant players (and teams) happen from time-to-time - if players do not like it then they need to be get better - it is not unfair. Other teams also to need to keep together longer not change every 3-4 tournaments. Pickleball is in its early stages as a sport, as it grows, dont be surprised if both Ben Johns and AL Waters dont make it to the GOLD metal all the time in 2024. D Schaefer or Christine Maddox (best two handed backhand in pickleball) - should handle AL Waters soon. And D Frazier, C Alshon should be defeating B Johns soon as well. Team these ladies with these men - consistently - and should have less of Ben and AL show. TMcGuffin / MDizon could also do it if they stay together longer than 3 months - Dizon has the fight to blow past AL if she takes up singles - singles play will improve her doubles game.
You make some good points. Dominant players Like Ben and anna demonstrate incredible skill, but as pickleball grows we’ll likely see more competition depth. They will undoubtedly be challenged more and more as the years go on.
Tiger dominated golf. Others will work harder and quality of play will be enhanced!!!!!
Very true. The level of play will only benefit. Thanks for the comment.
I'm trying to remember if Tennis ever had the same dilemma with a dominant 1+1=1 combo that wouldn't leave.
Not that I can remember. Mixed doubles is so popular in the recreational pickle population.
Eventually they'll want to separate or something like an injury will break it. I say enjoy while it lasts Bud. Cause it never does.
Thanks for the input. We definitely agree, greatness in sports never lasts and it’s fun to be witnessing it today.
This reminds me of the olden days where there were yells to "Break up the Yankees" or "Break up the Celtics" or "Break up UCLA" (if these don't ring a bell, look up the records of these teams in the 50's and 60's). Personally I love to watch them play. I love to see excellent athletes in action. I have been following AL since the early days when she played Simone Jardim at 12. You could see the potential even back then (look it up. Simone killed her, but you could see the talent).
Thanks for the comment. There is something special when you are witnessing a dynasty in the present. Great input to the channel.
Nope they should pair up. So fun to see them compete and win. 🎉
We agree. Something awesome about watching greatness in real time. Thanks!
11:52 there is no reason to break this team up my wife and I look forward to watching them, as any team sports when teams get lucky enough to get players that just gel together work hard by both putting extra Time to make sure they improve their own play thru practice and innovation why should they be penalized.
Thanks for the comment. We are not advocating they be penalized. I’m with you that naturally the talent will have to rise to meet them at the top. Have a great one.
0:16 Waters was 12 years old in 2019
Thanks for helping out. Have a great one.
Actually, like most of us, she was two ages in 2019. Since she was born in 2007, she was both 11 and 12. An interesting bit of trivia is that she actually played in her first Pro tournament at age 11, before turning pro at 12.
@@Kalamabbfan True ALW was 11 and 12 in 2019, Her birthday is January 26. She didn't turn pro until the spring of 2019.
I do not sit and watch PPA, maybe at a quick glance like these and some tip videos not always their entirety. I'd rather be outside playing Pickleball than watching it. I find that Pickleball keeps Penalizing good players and their overall athleticism, because others can't keep up or execute the same level of play.
Thank you for your comment. We agree penalizing competitors is not the answer. Thanks again.
agree, I think pickleball being the fastest growing sport is for players not watchers.
It's just a matter of time before there's a big turnover of who's the best. The sport's level of competition will change as more $$$ are involved!
Completely agree money and time will Bring more athletes. Thanks for the comment!
Nothing lasts forever.
Both are pretty young. Will take someone to rise up for sure.
They play on the PPA not app
Thanks for the help. My constant battle with auto correct on this seems to have gotten the best of me.
It's ultimately a business. Professional teams (baseball, basketball, football, etc) all pay loads of money to get the best players they can so they can win and make more money. I think it would get really complicated if they started making rules about who could play with other players or not, depending on their ranking. I tried to find rules online to see if tennis pros have any restrictions, but in my 30 second search I came up empty. If tennis has those kinds of rules, just use them. If not, let them have their heyday for now. Somebody will come up and replace them at one point.
I agree as the sport grows it will attract more talent. This thing tend to work themselves out over a bit of time. It’s exciting to be watching the sport grow and evolve. Thanks for your input.
Unfair? Get better.
Agree with you on this.
Absolutely rubbish !! this is their time, to be at the pinnacle of their chosen sport, it,s up to the rest to improve ( and they will ) we already saw Ben get beat in singles , he,s aware of the struggles ahead , so much fun ahead ...
Could not agree more. Sport will only improve as more talent floods in.
It looks like Waters only gets to hit the ball 10% of the time. John’s needs to stay on his side of the court and let her play too. Don’t know if the Team dominates or if John’s is simply that good.
How much money have they earned?
Hard to tell for sure. Pickleball is still growing and the purse for each competition is growing each year. Anna and Ben make the majority of their money through endorsements and media. Thanks.
Whose here after the suffered their first lost
I am a huge fan of this team, I love watching them destroy opponents. However, I can see why maybe they should be broken up, if that’s possible or even legal to do. They really are just too good and I admire the other teams that valiantly oppose them. Maybe two players who are both ranked as number one should not be allowed to be a team. But then what is actually fair?
Thanks for the well thought out comment. I agree, watching these two is an incredible sight to behold. Its a tough situation, on one hand everyone loves to watch greatness and the pursuit of others to try and dethrone the champs. But on the other hand, it may become tiresome and repetitive. Thanks again for stopping by our channel.
I have no objection to their partnership but i think it hurts the game.....i want to see a real challenge in a final match....if i see them together i simply switch channels...
Ahh found one in this camp. Love the input sincerely. You are not alone in this thought. Thanks for the comment.
What waste another reason why US is doing so bad in tennis by spending their time in a recreational activity not a real sport
This is asinine. What’s next? It’s unfair that Phelps swims so fast. Gotta make him swim with weights on. Lamar Jackson is too good a player. He’s not allowed to run anymore in NFL games. Lebron James wins too much. He can only play 1 quarter every game.
I don't like it, it's an unfair advantage to have the 2 world #1's playing together
Thanks for the comment. You are definitely in the minority, choosing to split them up. I value your opinion and appreciate your inputs.
I just blocked this fool.
WWF. I quit watching pro all together.
WWF?
@@Pickleball_Luca outcome is preordained. Why watch.
No one cares