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You can't change phase of motor if have encoder inside, check out if there if you can change your phase of motor before you find issue, else you may need reprogram a controller else you will get error code
@@ansp6980 The motor and the controller are separate in the Leaf. The motor is a three phase induction motor. All you have to do to reverse a three phase motor is revers two of the phases (it doesn't matter which ones). He is doing it correctly and I do have the background to know what I am talking about. The motor controller won't need any adjustment as it won't even notice the change.
Pull safety plug on top of the battery to make it 'safer' to work with. Also remember to have an access hatch to reach the safety plug in the event of an accident and EMS/towing need to make the car safe for transport. Leaf has a hatch in the floor of the back seat footwell area. Love seeing this coming together
Respectfully I have to disagree with the comment that EVs can’t be fun. I wont argue that 1st gen Nissan leafs with 107 hp aren’t fun. They aren’t and weren’t designed to be fun. Similar to a boring econobox four banger with a cvt. There are plenty of EVs that are fun. The instant torque doesn’t get old. You can get into gaps that even fast ICE sports cars would only dream of. There are no turbos to spool up or gears to downshift. When you hit it, it’s a rush. Plus if you have cars like the model 3 performance, you can still roll donuts and hoon if that’s your thing. This is coming from someone with a V8 mustang and fast electric car. It’s not the same and there are things that I still love in a combustion vehicle like a manual transmission or V8 sound, but there are also things that I can only do in an electric car. Awesome video series! I love that you are trying something different!
Agree, the Nissan Leaf Gen 1 is one of the worst EV out there. No wonder it's not the most trilling to use... I can see Rich point's as well. You don't have the same level of feedback compared to an ICE and there's no gear box as well.
Not a 100% but since working at a Nissan dealer now for 14 years having that rear suspension backwards might cause unwanted toe change when turning hard or going over bumps. The normal way mounted in a car will slightly toe in under compression. It's one of those things that was talked about often when the Z car came back in 2003.
The gizmos and gadgets in a Tesla should be illegal. It's like driving while looking at your phone. Your phone is illegal and the Tesla has multiple screens with no buttons so you literally take your eyes off the road to use anything
But hey, cars these days have incredible safety cages so when you crash you most likely survive. Cars also need those screens and bullshit because you can’t look out of the windows because of the safety cage so you need something to do inside the car. Fiddling with screens is a very good alternative to watching out the windows for traffic and such. The car starts beeping anyway when you are about to hit anything so do need to pay attention to anything else than some screens.
I think that intro might be my new favorite, sorry JuiceBox, you’re still also great. Feel like it’s been a few vids since I’ve seen Vince. Always enjoy Vince in these. I’m going to predict it now, you are going to drive this car way more than you think you will at this point. Trust me, it’s going to be so fun. I’m only here for the music.
Running the rear backwards will change the handling and feel as it will have the wrong squat/antisquat. That said the way this will get driven I'd imagine it's fast or hard enough to even notice.
I have to disagree. The torque is amazing and so much fun changing lanes- leaving lights. I guess if your just auditory and believe loud is fast then I could see your point. I have to admit to laughing out loud when a loud truck or car leaves a light and they are not going anywhere while making so much noise.
Interesting project. I think your perspective on driver experience is very specific to your experience and goals. Having E cars for the last 5 years, I find my nice BMW gas car to be loud, jerky and way overcomplicated, and I enjoy the smooth, quiet and rapid acceleration of electric motor to be fantastic sensory experience. Though those characteristics may be less noticeable in a Leaf. I do agree that range anxiety is real and creates a different pattern of planning and driving from the fuel driven cars, but with the newer cars with larger and fully functional batteries minimize that issue.
Swapping the phases will change direction of the motor, but you might want to look into resolver feedback. The motor typically receives feedback about the motor position via a resolver or an encoder. If you’re using the OEM leaf controller it might trigger a fault or prevent the motor from spinning if you simply swap phase cables. There’s surely a way around it, but figured I’d mention it in case you hadn’t looked into this yet. Been watching for years now, love your videos and can’t wait to see how this one turns out.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE +1 the motor has a sensor similar to the crank angle sensor on a combustion engine. The interwebs says you have to swap some wires on this sensor too. All the info out there is for the EM57, you have the EM61. I believe the basic idea is the same though the wire colours might be different.
Exactly what I came to say.... swapping phase will swap motor direction, but depending on the controller feedback, it may cause it to shut down or throw codes. That is more like a BLDC motor than a conventional AC motor and the controller needs to know the rotor position to time the output. EDIT: Oil flow too..... the whole gear train will be spinning backwards for long periods and higher speeds than designed. Some have drivetrain driven pumps, some rely on splash lubrication and some external. And, just because one person did it, doesn't mean it works. Guess we'll all find out.
Reversing a frequency controlled AC synchronous motor (I assume, not knowing how it is wired) rarely is as easy as just swapping two of the phases. I'd have a electrical engineer (a power EE, there are many different specialties in electrical engineering) review how the internal wiring of the motor is configured, and how the Nissan controller supplies power to the leads, and the particulars of how the controller works. You might even contact a Nissan engineer about how to reverse the motor, it's possible that they would be open to helping you. Given the amount of power you are dealing with, some extra caution is probably wise. It's a little like asking one of your daughters to rebuild the CAT diesel in your pickup. She might try, but she doesn't know enough about it to know what things she has to be careful doing.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE What type of gears the Leaf uses? Helical gears or straight cut gears? You might have been influenced by Edison Motors who said that their motors could run forward or backward. But their gears are straight cut, for an off-road truck so noise and vibration don’t matter. You may find normal helical cut gears with thrust bearing on one side. Not applicable to run in reverse duty cycle.
To be fair about the driving experience with a regular EV is they are designed for people who dont know or want the driving experience. Driving a new Corolla is very similar in the lack of experience. They designed it that way.
If you dont like the electic part, just enjoy all whats needed to fab this car completely, custom frame and the restoration, its still gonna be a really big and interesting project
I'm in shock! about the reversal of the rear suspension. I obsess over things like anti squat, roll/jounce induced toe changes, instant centers, and designed compliance.... BUT I remind myself that this is just a cool cruiser and I cant wait to see how it turns out
This is very interesting to me, as I am doing a Camry 3.5 V6 swap on my old 93 Toyota Celica but was thinking of possibly utilizing the rear for a Electric motor and make a semi-hybrid that would only come on when the Cruise control is set or an on demand button for AWD situations.
@@Vaino_Hotti when this car was new it came with a very similar engine as the Camry, just a sportier version of the same 5SFE 2.2L 4-cylinder. The 3.5 2GR V6 just sounds soooo heavenly, and MOSTLY fits under the hood (with minor modification). It has been done to quite a few MR2's at this point, and one 98 Celica that I know of, I'm trying to gather to gather the parts as we speak, but they seem to be in little supply in my area, which is weird for as common as these engines are.
If the drivetrain is flipped, so reverse goes forward, there may be issues in the transmission. instead of gears pulling together they will push apart, so thrust loads won't be right.
Just watching the first two minutes and being blown away by how good your editing is and how on point it is. Top notch. Man, that intro. Thanks for the content.
Yeah, that intro is by far the best one yet! I really like it too! All those old clips from the automotive history is put together real well. Aaron is getting really good with this RUclips videography thingy! 😉🤣🤣🎥📽️🎧🎬🎚️🎤
I work at a fab shop, mostly repair/refurbish/restore older, classic, vintage, antique vehicles.. of my personal projects, two of them are matching ‘55 Buick Super 56R’s, one I’ve been ‘S L O W L Y’ attempting to restore as all original. The other one was originally acquired as a parts-donor for the 1st Buick. Almost immediately after #2 arrived to me at my place, via a 9 car car-hauler from Tucson, Az to my place in SoCal, we got some light rain… that bit of moisture caused the patina of parts cars’ very straight body, to sheen so nicely that i then wanted to switch gears in getting the “parts car” all fully functional, employing all of the worse-off parts from #1, while setting aside its better condition parts (mostly its “bright work” parts) for #1. Now, #2’a original 322 Fireball Nailhead, although complete, was VERY seized up & requires being rebuilt. I’ve gone back & forth in my mind, of trying to decide if that’s be worth doing (#2, although extremely rusty & cancerous, throughout, is a factory original A/C optioned car) or, doing something along the lines of what y’all did with this classic ChEVy, going “HYBRID” instead tho… thoughts?
My solution to electric car blah would be to up the stereo game. I’m a musician and like my car stereos. The solution to giving them more character? I like your route. Swaps are the way until someone actually builds an interesting one.
Fellow Ontario based custom car enthusiasts - at 10:20 Rich mentions "whoever safeties this..." - Have you had issues getting professionally-done frame work, for example frame notches, performance modifications like replacing solid axle with IRS, engine swaps requiring new engine mounts, or subframe repairs safetied? I've read the safety check list the MTO provides and it's fairly up to interpretation what kind of modifications an inspector can deem safe IMO... For example I'm fitting a front mounted steering rack instead of a rear mounted one in a car I'm working on to clear a new transmission, and therefore moving the subframe member it was mounted to from behind the engine mounts to in front of them. The continuous TIG welds I'm laying down should be leagues stronger than the messy factory MIG stitch welds, so if I were an inspector I'd think "sure it's not OEM, but objectively the risk of failure to hold the steering rack is clearly lower than before and the work was clearly done well, no issues there". Not sure if most other inspectors would share that confidence though.
So if You live in a SALT State when you're monts rust away that holds your Battery your kinda screwed? WOW!!!! That's really NOT a good thing what's your thoughts on that issue?
That big orange connector in the middle of the battery is the service disconnect. You should always remove it before touching any of the high voltage connections or removing the battery. It breaks the circuit to prevent any voltage from being present anywhere outside the battery. You access if from a cover in front of the rear seat after you disconnect the 12v battery.
Great project guys. I used the same model Nissan Leaf donor for my EV conversion and it worked out great. Don't try to fit all the Leaf control gear into your car. There is no need if you use something like a Zombieverter VCU and it will save you trying to fit the entire Leaf loom along with various modules in your car. I used a solid coupler to mate the motor to my gearbox so maintained the 4WD in my Landrover Freelander. I made a video series about it if your interested.
A Nissan Leaf isn't an exciting car to drive. It's the Nissan Altima of electric cars. It gets you from point A to point B as efficiently as possible. The handling isn't anything to experience and the power is anemic. Electric cars can give a lot of performance for city driving since they have torque curves that are really flat and start right at 0 RPM, so you can take of and accelerate if you have the power. It kills battery range when you do, but if you lead foot a little, you can get very zoomy very easily in one that has enough power. The real place electrics shine is your day to day driving. Running to the store. Picking up the kids. Running errands. Commuting to work. All those 20 mile or less trips, especially the 5 mile or less ones in city traffic. They are all short enough that range is no concern, you can be in sport mode, and the car recharges at home on a regular outlet overnight no problem for less than the price of a hamburger. Plug-in hybrids can also do this and give you the option of long range travel, hence why they are also very popular.
The best part of driving an electric car is going by gas stations, particularly when it is cold and people are freezing while filling their tank. Charging your electric car at home (overnight) is like starting every day with a full tank. I loved my little electric car and look forward to my next one. Really excited about this build!
i have a leaf same hes using actually. I have the lowest capacity possible so its almost dead at the end of a busy day for me but times i got to go real far i have my gas volvo s60R still. What i want to do personally is get a bmw i3 with the range extender next personally so i can use it like a ev and still take on road trips cheaply. Its also rwd cant beat it for 10k
If you get into modding the inverters on these they are total tire burners. Arlin Sansome ( another canadian) is an expert on hacking these things and built a tire melting honda with a leaf motor. It doesn't have to be slow!
I don’t understand why you stick an anti-EV rant in the middle of your ev build video. Seems like you’re trying to being in the EV crowd but still pander to your diesel audience. Not to mention that your views are based on one of the crappiest EVs ever built and are incredibly irrelevant for modern ev.
Sorry Rich. The fun of driving is not "The Car" It is seeing whats around you. A beautiful lake. A walk in the woods. A campfire, not in our own back yard. The trip is just whats done to get to the destination. However, I know you know that. Your just punking us old farts. 🙂
Neat to see the guts of an electric car. That cable to the motor sure has tons shielding. If you ever had to make longer run. Make sure to buy vfd cable. It helps prevent interference and protects motor from voltage spikes. I wonder if Edison truck are using those cables
if that old battery cell is not going to be used. You should get with a local fire dept to demonstrate a battery fire and how they contain them. Good training for them and we get to see FIRE!!!!
For me, where I'm at, and where I drive, "range anxiety" doesn't fit particularly well. Sure, I can see the attraction in the idea of one day getting into the car, aim for the horizon and take off. But I'm well past Bruce Springsteen's lyrics of "I took a wrong turn and I just kept going". For all realistic intents and purposes, I know where I'm going and what I can find along the way. I can plan and figure out beforehand if it's going to work out. So short of road closures, charging stations breaking down or other catastrophic events, I'm good. What I'd agree to though is "charge TIME anxiety". I do a couple of road trips each year during peak travel time. In a Diesel/Gas car, fueling up not an issue. At most, I think I've had two cars ahead of me at the pump. On a 7-hour journey, that wait isn't going to register. For an EV, facing a two-vehicle wait at the charging station, that's a useful chunk of time. This will probably get better with time, but as of now it can be a real issue.
Golly I'll have to admit this is quite a project. This will really be a conversation piece from shows to parking lots. So much figuring parts from what to what. Like your other builds you'll have to think a bit of which car gave what. Looking forward to your next edition.
I don't agree that the driving experience is dull if you drive let's say a Model 3. On the highway, sure. But any car is boring on the highway. Around where I live we have smaller roads I regularly have to drive that are very twisty and with a big portion of twistyness AND good visibility = inspired driving. Once you learn a Model 3 (especially the RWD version that we have) it gets interesting on these roads. When you push it it gives you loads of feedback from the steering and chassis and you can really push these cars. The regeneration braking can be used to balance the behaviour like with engine braking on higher revs. And is really planted. On the highway the Autopilot is great to have as a safety feature and makes you much more relaxed while driving and arriving much less tired. You shouldn't base your opinion on an old Leat is like basing your opinion on Porsches on a 2CV. ;)
I disagree on the driving experience, I won’t ever go back to driving ICE, EVs are too fun to drive. The instant torque feels like you’re driving a boosted diesel, they just pull and pull and pull.
You'd would have made a hell of a Buggy Whip Salesman when Henry Ford's fancy Model T came out and had no infrastructure to support it. A car? You gotta watch a gauge. Your horse can eat grass unlimited along the way for unlimited range. Cars, so fast and quiet.. NOT the excitement of a possible spooked runnaway horse! The arroma of a horse shitting in front of you pulling your cart will really get the young kids excited about the horse industry.
Rich, driving an EV isn't boring. Driving the world's most boring car is boring! I drive a plain vanilla work vehicle every day and it's boring. My friends MG4 is fun as he'll!
So, the OBS F350 cab is sitting on a cart in the background. Does that mean you’re modding the F350, or was this filmed a year or so ago when you were still working on the F350?
Completely wrong about all the negative ev stuff. You don’t have to charge every 2.5 hours, and they are not boring to drive. That leaf sucks though.amazing build. Planning one of my own.
You will end up with a vehicle that you can only drive a certain distance before you have to spend 45 minutes at a charging station before you can go anywhere else, unless you're going to do the hybrid conversion on it. I spend $20 on gas that will last all week long, unless I do more driving than usual. Luv ya bro, but I'll keep my gas vehicle.
12:19 I'm amused that you compare cars to dates. The reason why I love that EVs make practically no sound is that I can hear the person in the seat next to me. ...then again, I'm the kind of guy that hates it when the keys in my pocket jingle and my wife threatens to put a cat bell on me, so... Also, we need to get you into something more sporty than a Leaf like a Plaid edition Tesla or heck, even just an F-150 Lightning is going to be more fun than that Leaf.
Range anxiety is only a thing when you have an old Leaf which is basically a Model T in the EV world by now, with a terrible battery that has almost no range. I’ve been driving EV’s for over six years and haven’t had range anxiety for many years. I’m a through and through petrolhead, but love driving our EV as well, but for different reasons than my gas car.
I remember when you used you talent and knowledge on cool stuff. Goat, Audi, tank, Mercedes. Made a cool shop, now just dumb shit, Electric, crap engines in stuff Get better eh
Driving long distance and it gets boring, that's about the best thing not happening, ("the best part is no part"), so instead off speeding up to focus your attention, engage the robot and watch for the robot mistakes, otherwise, "get a horse" is what the old timers used to tell drivers to whom exciting things happened. Ie horses would find their own way home and the rider only had to not fall off.., so in other words, these EV robots are getting as good as horses now, Cheaper than dieing.
@@JD-yx7be it's the best solution we have so far for rural Canada. It's a problem when the distance between charging stations exceeds the range. Got a couple at work that bought a volt I think, they have a 25 minute drive on the highway to work and by the time they get home they are down to 15%. And this had been a very warm winter, if it gets to -40 they won't have the range.
Range no problem just recharge from your Edison hybrid pickup make sure to spec a charge point what the way chance says it you got a mobile type 4 charger
Watching a Leaf battery being included in a hotrod swap is like watching someone build a 5.4 Triton swapped into a car after ripping the LS out of it. WHY!
Thinking of the tool sweepstakes... my dads been a mechanic for cars and heavy machines for going on 50 years but i have no place to work on my car haha.. i love doing my own work but working on the street sucks!!! Oneday someone needs to do a sweepstakes for a shop instead of tools lol
Its not a new direction. We just never build the same thing twice. We are building a 59 Fargo DT466 Roll off at the same time. It will be used to tow this car long distances lol
Look, I just subscribed lol You gotta give me a chance to go catch up lol I see it was the video before I subbed so I didn't miss much. We are now a two Leaf house since joining lol So this definitely hits my interests. I'd love to take it slightly crazier or dumber myself though lol The first gen Leaf reminds me of old Citroen 2cv in a weird modern way. I want to be stupid lol Edit: That first drive giggles lol Totally get it. It was dry for me, so my giggles came when it was rotating nicely around it's low center of gravity taking the onramp onto the freeway lol Since it's now "my car" it's getting autocrossed this summer.
10:11 OMG Is that the f3kitty sitting there torn apart....again? Or do you by chance have another complete white crewcab obs cab sitting in your shop? I'm confused now! What is happening there Rich? Like seriously 🤔😲🤦🏻♂️🛠️🔧🔩
You must be finally wrapping up the interior 100%, I hope. Guess it's time to charge the m12 seat battery & maybe hook it up to a regular fused 12v battery supply so you can use the m12 battery on actual Milwaukee tools in the shop. I am still shocked seeing that cab sitting there in the shop without the rest of the frame & Caterpillar engine. Hope everything is ok with the f3kitty!
Beautiful dog, very well behaved. Is she a pure shepherd? Some people are nervous about shepherds but the two I’ve had were both super loyal and smart and were great around kids and were very protective of my kids 👍
You'd think with all the name dropping and product references, Princess Auto would have you and peg as ambassadors. Well, maybe not peg... but anyways...
Just fyi for anyone who didn't know. My father in law bought a junkyard battery and disassembled it. He tested all the cells in his old battery pack and the junkyard pack and made one good battery pack from the 2. Fixed his Civic for about $400. Changed and charged the cells in his spare time
Okay, when people refer to emissions, like a zero emission car, they are correct; If you look at what the word Emission means (the production and discharge of something, especially gas or radiation) you will find that all electric cars are in fact zero emissions. All ICE cars have the same downsides to being made (IE the environmental impact of mining for the materials they're made of) but ICE have the added downside of constantly 'emitting' pollution for its entire life span. Yes, generating the power for charging cars is also not great (getting better with solar wind and nuclear investments) but if you look at how Gasoline is made and then delivered to gas stations, EVs are still way ahead as far as mitigating the environmental impact. it doesn't take a scientist to see that.
Debatable. If you see how much fuel is needed to mine the minerals for batteries, dig the holes for the wind turbines, deliver the wind turbines and the amount of concrete poured into the hole to hold up the windmills, the amount of toxic glue used in the fibreglass blades of a turbine, they don't become neutral until the last 1/4 of their life span. And then the amount of extra energy needed to recycle all the materials... Keeping in mind that windmills, and solar panels don't get recycled, they just bury them where people can't see them.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE There are fuels used in transporting oil, refining and distributing fuels as well. Consider total amount of EV's on the road, compared to combustion vehicles. The amount of energy required to recycle batteries is super low, since there isn't much EV dead batteries to begin with. There are a few battery recycling plans are located in EU and NA continents. How many oil refineries there are? Hundreds? First mass produced EV models are 13 years old. Lithium batteries have 10-15 year lifespan. (end of projected lifespan means degradation 20 % or more) Batteries still work, but degradation should accelerate slightly from that point. Keep in mind that recycled materials replace some of the suply of freshly mined materials. True for not recycling windmills and panels. There are first tries to develop ways to recycle these as we speak. I think that we should use every way possible to get cheap energy. We should not be focusing strictly on one source of energy. I like your content but i have to disagree with some of your stated negatives about EV's. 1. If you consider 27 years as young, then i disprove the point about driver enjoyment. I find electric drivetrain way more responsive beause of instant torque and regen braking. I work on hyundai EV's. 😁 2. Range anxiety could apply to leafs. Leafs were pretty bad in terms of battery degradation. Are there any cooling ports on the battery case? Uncooled batteries really suffer when cycled frequently. Liquid cooled batteries in electric cars is standard now. 3. When you drove Topsy, you smiled in exitement. When you imagine this project in your head, you smile in exitement. I am just not convinced, you really see more negatives than positives on EV's. 😁 You work to make it even more positive. I will keep watching your projects, both combustion and electric ones.
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You can't change phase of motor if have encoder inside, check out if there if you can change your phase of motor before you find issue, else you may need reprogram a controller else you will get error code
Make this into a hybrid
Why excluding Quebec? What did the Quebec government do again that screws us over.
@@ansp6980 The motor and the controller are separate in the Leaf. The motor is a three phase induction motor. All you have to do to reverse a three phase motor is revers two of the phases (it doesn't matter which ones). He is doing it correctly and I do have the background to know what I am talking about. The motor controller won't need any adjustment as it won't even notice the change.
@@wtftolate3782 That is a lot more complicated that it sounds.
Pull safety plug on top of the battery to make it 'safer' to work with. Also remember to have an access hatch to reach the safety plug in the event of an accident and EMS/towing need to make the car safe for transport. Leaf has a hatch in the floor of the back seat footwell area. Love seeing this coming together
Thank you for that, I did not know that but will definitely use it. Since the floor of the leaf is going in the 48, the hatch should line up!
Yep, some put the plugs in not the easiest of locations.
Think of it like a race car... where do you want the isolator.
I'm glad someone else mentioned it!
Seeing that as a Toyota hybrid certified tech made my arsehole pucker.
Respectfully I have to disagree with the comment that EVs can’t be fun. I wont argue that 1st gen Nissan leafs with 107 hp aren’t fun. They aren’t and weren’t designed to be fun. Similar to a boring econobox four banger with a cvt.
There are plenty of EVs that are fun. The instant torque doesn’t get old. You can get into gaps that even fast ICE sports cars would only dream of. There are no turbos to spool up or gears to downshift. When you hit it, it’s a rush. Plus if you have cars like the model 3 performance, you can still roll donuts and hoon if that’s your thing.
This is coming from someone with a V8 mustang and fast electric car. It’s not the same and there are things that I still love in a combustion vehicle like a manual transmission or V8 sound, but there are also things that I can only do in an electric car.
Awesome video series! I love that you are trying something different!
Agreed.. I love driving my EV. The torque is so much fun, and the car drives like it is on rails... love it!
Agree, the Nissan Leaf Gen 1 is one of the worst EV out there. No wonder it's not the most trilling to use... I can see Rich point's as well. You don't have the same level of feedback compared to an ICE and there's no gear box as well.
Not a 100% but since working at a Nissan dealer now for 14 years having that rear suspension backwards might cause unwanted toe change when turning hard or going over bumps. The normal way mounted in a car will slightly toe in under compression. It's one of those things that was talked about often when the Z car came back in 2003.
I'm concerned about this and anti-squat geometry turning into pro-squat geometry.
The gizmos and gadgets in a Tesla should be illegal. It's like driving while looking at your phone. Your phone is illegal and the Tesla has multiple screens with no buttons so you literally take your eyes off the road to use anything
that is most newer cars
But hey, cars these days have incredible safety cages so when you crash you most likely survive. Cars also need those screens and bullshit because you can’t look out of the windows because of the safety cage so you need something to do inside the car. Fiddling with screens is a very good alternative to watching out the windows for traffic and such. The car starts beeping anyway when you are about to hit anything so do need to pay attention to anything else than some screens.
I think that intro might be my new favorite, sorry JuiceBox, you’re still also great. Feel like it’s been a few vids since I’ve seen Vince. Always enjoy Vince in these. I’m going to predict it now, you are going to drive this car way more than you think you will at this point. Trust me, it’s going to be so fun. I’m only here for the music.
Running the rear backwards will change the handling and feel as it will have the wrong squat/antisquat. That said the way this will get driven I'd imagine it's fast or hard enough to even notice.
I have to disagree. The torque is amazing and so much fun changing lanes- leaving lights. I guess if your just auditory and believe loud is fast then I could see your point. I have to admit to laughing out loud when a loud truck or car leaves a light and they are not going anywhere while making so much noise.
Finally something clean and pure that Vince liked to weld. Lol
Love how after nice weld by vince he just cuts it out,sorry vince start again!!take 2...snooky
Interesting project. I think your perspective on driver experience is very specific to your experience and goals. Having E cars for the last 5 years, I find my nice BMW gas car to be loud, jerky and way overcomplicated, and I enjoy the smooth, quiet and rapid acceleration of electric motor to be fantastic sensory experience. Though those characteristics may be less noticeable in a Leaf. I do agree that range anxiety is real and creates a different pattern of planning and driving from the fuel driven cars, but with the newer cars with larger and fully functional batteries minimize that issue.
Swapping the phases will change direction of the motor, but you might want to look into resolver feedback. The motor typically receives feedback about the motor position via a resolver or an encoder. If you’re using the OEM leaf controller it might trigger a fault or prevent the motor from spinning if you simply swap phase cables. There’s surely a way around it, but figured I’d mention it in case you hadn’t looked into this yet.
Been watching for years now, love your videos and can’t wait to see how this one turns out.
Someone did it on another channel when they put it in the back of a 240. That was enough for me, if he can do it, so can I
@@DEBOSSGARAGE +1 the motor has a sensor similar to the crank angle sensor on a combustion engine. The interwebs says you have to swap some wires on this sensor too. All the info out there is for the EM57, you have the EM61. I believe the basic idea is the same though the wire colours might be different.
Exactly what I came to say.... swapping phase will swap motor direction, but depending on the controller feedback, it may cause it to shut down or throw codes. That is more like a BLDC motor than a conventional AC motor and the controller needs to know the rotor position to time the output.
EDIT: Oil flow too..... the whole gear train will be spinning backwards for long periods and higher speeds than designed. Some have drivetrain driven pumps, some rely on splash lubrication and some external. And, just because one person did it, doesn't mean it works. Guess we'll all find out.
Reversing a frequency controlled AC synchronous motor (I assume, not knowing how it is wired) rarely is as easy as just swapping two of the phases. I'd have a electrical engineer (a power EE, there are many different specialties in electrical engineering) review how the internal wiring of the motor is configured, and how the Nissan controller supplies power to the leads, and the particulars of how the controller works. You might even contact a Nissan engineer about how to reverse the motor, it's possible that they would be open to helping you. Given the amount of power you are dealing with, some extra caution is probably wise. It's a little like asking one of your daughters to rebuild the CAT diesel in your pickup. She might try, but she doesn't know enough about it to know what things she has to be careful doing.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE What type of gears the Leaf uses? Helical gears or straight cut gears? You might have been influenced by Edison Motors who said that their motors could run forward or backward. But their gears are straight cut, for an off-road truck so noise and vibration don’t matter. You may find normal helical cut gears with thrust bearing on one side. Not applicable to run in reverse duty cycle.
To be fair about the driving experience with a regular EV is they are designed for people who dont know or want the driving experience. Driving a new Corolla is very similar in the lack of experience. They designed it that way.
Good dog. 10/10 would pet
Yeah I'd be 'talking' to him in the 'dog voice' as soon as I saw him! 👍🏻👌🏻🐶🐾
If you dont like the electic part, just enjoy all whats needed to fab this car completely, custom frame and the restoration, its still gonna be a really big and interesting project
I'm in shock! about the reversal of the rear suspension. I obsess over things like anti squat, roll/jounce induced toe changes, instant centers, and designed compliance.... BUT I remind myself that this is just a cool cruiser and I cant wait to see how it turns out
You may find the A/C Compressor is part of the Battery cooling circuit and BMS
Leaf batteries don't have active cooling :(
Nope, not on the old leafs, there is no cooling whatsoever in those batteries.
This is very interesting to me, as I am doing a Camry 3.5 V6 swap on my old 93 Toyota Celica but was thinking of possibly utilizing the rear for a Electric motor and make a semi-hybrid that would only come on when the Cruise control is set or an on demand button for AWD situations.
A Camry swap has never sounded as exciting!
@@Vaino_Hotti when this car was new it came with a very similar engine as the Camry, just a sportier version of the same 5SFE 2.2L 4-cylinder. The 3.5 2GR V6 just sounds soooo heavenly, and MOSTLY fits under the hood (with minor modification). It has been done to quite a few MR2's at this point, and one 98 Celica that I know of, I'm trying to gather to gather the parts as we speak, but they seem to be in little supply in my area, which is weird for as common as these engines are.
So happy to see an EV build finally. Like it or not, the future is electric. ⚡👌
If the drivetrain is flipped, so reverse goes forward, there may be issues in the transmission.
instead of gears pulling together they will push apart, so thrust loads won't be right.
Whether you like EVs or not, this is hotrodding
Just watching the first two minutes and being blown away by how good your editing is and how on point it is. Top notch. Man, that intro. Thanks for the content.
Yeah, that intro is by far the best one yet! I really like it too! All those old clips from the automotive history is put together real well. Aaron is getting really good with this RUclips videography thingy! 😉🤣🤣🎥📽️🎧🎬🎚️🎤
In the future people will have disorders from range anxiety. It'll be a form Of PTSD. 😅
Any one else think this bot pretending to be DG is creepy!?!?🤔
I work at a fab shop, mostly repair/refurbish/restore older, classic, vintage, antique vehicles.. of my personal projects, two of them are matching ‘55 Buick Super 56R’s, one I’ve been ‘S L O W L Y’ attempting to restore as all original. The other one was originally acquired as a parts-donor for the 1st Buick. Almost immediately after #2 arrived to me at my place, via a 9 car car-hauler from Tucson, Az to my place in SoCal, we got some light rain… that bit of moisture caused the patina of parts cars’ very straight body, to sheen so nicely that i then wanted to switch gears in getting the “parts car” all fully functional, employing all of the worse-off parts from #1, while setting aside its better condition parts (mostly its “bright work” parts) for #1. Now, #2’a original 322 Fireball Nailhead, although complete, was VERY seized up & requires being rebuilt. I’ve gone back & forth in my mind, of trying to decide if that’s be worth doing (#2, although extremely rusty & cancerous, throughout, is a factory original A/C optioned car) or, doing something along the lines of what y’all did with this classic ChEVy, going “HYBRID” instead tho… thoughts?
My solution to electric car blah would be to up the stereo game. I’m a musician and like my car stereos. The solution to giving them more character? I like your route. Swaps are the way until someone actually builds an interesting one.
The difference with a tesla is that the insane amount of power makes it less boring cause going o to 60 in 3 sec never gets old
Fellow Ontario based custom car enthusiasts - at 10:20 Rich mentions "whoever safeties this..." - Have you had issues getting professionally-done frame work, for example frame notches, performance modifications like replacing solid axle with IRS, engine swaps requiring new engine mounts, or subframe repairs safetied? I've read the safety check list the MTO provides and it's fairly up to interpretation what kind of modifications an inspector can deem safe IMO... For example I'm fitting a front mounted steering rack instead of a rear mounted one in a car I'm working on to clear a new transmission, and therefore moving the subframe member it was mounted to from behind the engine mounts to in front of them. The continuous TIG welds I'm laying down should be leagues stronger than the messy factory MIG stitch welds, so if I were an inspector I'd think "sure it's not OEM, but objectively the risk of failure to hold the steering rack is clearly lower than before and the work was clearly done well, no issues there". Not sure if most other inspectors would share that confidence though.
So if You live in a SALT State when you're monts rust away that holds your Battery your kinda screwed? WOW!!!! That's really NOT a good thing what's your thoughts on that issue?
It’s a Leaf of course it’s boring! It would be like judging ICE cars by driving a Camry.
Is it just me or is your HV disconnect still plugged in your battery.
Why not just put the motor in the front where there would be heaps of space?, so what FWD, its not a race car, its a cruiser
That big orange connector in the middle of the battery is the service disconnect. You should always remove it before touching any of the high voltage connections or removing the battery. It breaks the circuit to prevent any voltage from being present anywhere outside the battery. You access if from a cover in front of the rear seat after you disconnect the 12v battery.
90% sure it's going to fit, just means you might need to buy some extra Sawzall blades...
and you still have plenty of space to mount a diesel generator on front like the edison truck ahhahahaa
Great project guys. I used the same model Nissan Leaf donor for my EV conversion and it worked out great.
Don't try to fit all the Leaf control gear into your car. There is no need if you use something like a Zombieverter VCU and it will save you trying to fit the entire Leaf loom along with various modules in your car.
I used a solid coupler to mate the motor to my gearbox so maintained the 4WD in my Landrover Freelander. I made a video series about it if your interested.
I seriously don't understand why not just mount the rear suspension the right direction
A Nissan Leaf isn't an exciting car to drive. It's the Nissan Altima of electric cars. It gets you from point A to point B as efficiently as possible. The handling isn't anything to experience and the power is anemic. Electric cars can give a lot of performance for city driving since they have torque curves that are really flat and start right at 0 RPM, so you can take of and accelerate if you have the power. It kills battery range when you do, but if you lead foot a little, you can get very zoomy very easily in one that has enough power.
The real place electrics shine is your day to day driving. Running to the store. Picking up the kids. Running errands. Commuting to work. All those 20 mile or less trips, especially the 5 mile or less ones in city traffic. They are all short enough that range is no concern, you can be in sport mode, and the car recharges at home on a regular outlet overnight no problem for less than the price of a hamburger. Plug-in hybrids can also do this and give you the option of long range travel, hence why they are also very popular.
5 miles or less, get a (cargo) e-bike
The best part of driving an electric car is going by gas stations, particularly when it is cold and people are freezing while filling their tank. Charging your electric car at home (overnight) is like starting every day with a full tank. I loved my little electric car and look forward to my next one. Really excited about this build!
i have a leaf same hes using actually. I have the lowest capacity possible so its almost dead at the end of a busy day for me but times i got to go real far i have my gas volvo s60R still. What i want to do personally is get a bmw i3 with the range extender next personally so i can use it like a ev and still take on road trips cheaply. Its also rwd cant beat it for 10k
Is there an oil pump in the drive gears. If so I'd it by directional or one way like a Tesla motor.
If you get into modding the inverters on these they are total tire burners. Arlin Sansome ( another canadian) is an expert on hacking these things and built a tire melting honda with a leaf motor. It doesn't have to be slow!
Hey Rich,
I was just wondering if you had considered the 300hp electric crate motor from Ford.
They put one in an old pic-up for a demo.
I don’t understand why you stick an anti-EV rant in the middle of your ev build video. Seems like you’re trying to being in the EV crowd but still pander to your diesel audience. Not to mention that your views are based on one of the crappiest EVs ever built and are incredibly irrelevant for modern ev.
The problem with Dutch people is they tell it exactly how it is. No sugar coating it. It gets me in trouble with family all the time
Hot rodding of the 2030s, Marty McFly would be proud of you guys! Cool Idea, next sould be the fast car that will outrun the quatro!
Sorry Rich. The fun of driving is not "The Car" It is seeing whats around you. A beautiful lake. A walk in the woods. A campfire, not in our own back yard. The trip is just whats done to get to the destination. However, I know you know that. Your just punking us old farts. 🙂
Who needs aluminum? Build the chassis out of Canadian Maple … Sweeeeeet. 😂😂😂😂 oh the build could be called Canadian Maple Leaf!!! 😊😊😊😊
Neat to see the guts of an electric car. That cable to the motor sure has tons shielding. If you ever had to make longer run. Make sure to buy vfd cable. It helps prevent interference and protects motor from voltage spikes. I wonder if Edison truck are using those cables
It doesn’t matter what you work on be it electric gas or diesel I’m here for the sweet fabrication and knowledge
The next episode will be right up your alley. The first all aluminum home made frame that I know of
if that old battery cell is not going to be used. You should get with a local fire dept to demonstrate a battery fire and how they contain them. Good training for them and we get to see FIRE!!!!
Seems like running the rear suspension backwards would mess up the geometry unless you mounted it with some additional caster.
Amazing start to a cool build! I really like seeing the full skate-board build and it'll be cool to see how you fit the body over it.
I have a MG Midget.... What happened to the STR4 Midget project??? I'd like to see what it looks like finished..😀😀🤛💪 It's been over 5 Years
Is it possible to add a super small lawn mower like engine to run a small generator so it can charge the batt. While it's parked or driving?
For me, where I'm at, and where I drive, "range anxiety" doesn't fit particularly well.
Sure, I can see the attraction in the idea of one day getting into the car, aim for the horizon and take off.
But I'm well past Bruce Springsteen's lyrics of "I took a wrong turn and I just kept going".
For all realistic intents and purposes, I know where I'm going and what I can find along the way.
I can plan and figure out beforehand if it's going to work out.
So short of road closures, charging stations breaking down or other catastrophic events, I'm good.
What I'd agree to though is "charge TIME anxiety".
I do a couple of road trips each year during peak travel time.
In a Diesel/Gas car, fueling up not an issue. At most, I think I've had two cars ahead of me at the pump.
On a 7-hour journey, that wait isn't going to register.
For an EV, facing a two-vehicle wait at the charging station, that's a useful chunk of time.
This will probably get better with time, but as of now it can be a real issue.
@27:30 it'll work until it doesn't, like all things in life!
Corn field customs, does mandrel be the frames.
Rich Really trusts his lift with the wonky wheel forks
Golly I'll have to admit this is quite a project. This will really be a conversation piece from shows to parking lots. So much figuring parts from what to what. Like your other builds you'll have to think a bit of which car gave what. Looking forward to your next edition.
Infinity rear end, Ford front end, Nissan drive line, Chevy body and homemade frame
"You cant fix them" ive been a mechanic for over a decade and its getting to the point where we cant even work on ICE cars
I don't agree that the driving experience is dull if you drive let's say a Model 3. On the highway, sure. But any car is boring on the highway. Around where I live we have smaller roads I regularly have to drive that are very twisty and with a big portion of twistyness AND good visibility = inspired driving. Once you learn a Model 3 (especially the RWD version that we have) it gets interesting on these roads. When you push it it gives you loads of feedback from the steering and chassis and you can really push these cars. The regeneration braking can be used to balance the behaviour like with engine braking on higher revs. And is really planted. On the highway the Autopilot is great to have as a safety feature and makes you much more relaxed while driving and arriving much less tired. You shouldn't base your opinion on an old Leat is like basing your opinion on Porsches on a 2CV. ;)
I disagree on the driving experience, I won’t ever go back to driving ICE, EVs are too fun to drive. The instant torque feels like you’re driving a boosted diesel, they just pull and pull and pull.
Nice to know Nick at Bad Obsession Motorsports has his grinder scarecrow and his gussets, and Rich at Deboss Garage has his Sawzall.
You'd would have made a hell of a Buggy Whip Salesman when Henry Ford's fancy Model T came out and had no infrastructure to support it. A car? You gotta watch a gauge. Your horse can eat grass unlimited along the way for unlimited range. Cars, so fast and quiet.. NOT the excitement of a possible spooked runnaway horse! The arroma of a horse shitting in front of you pulling your cart will really get the young kids excited about the horse industry.
Rich, driving an EV isn't boring. Driving the world's most boring car is boring! I drive a plain vanilla work vehicle every day and it's boring. My friends MG4 is fun as he'll!
So, the OBS F350 cab is sitting on a cart in the background. Does that mean you’re modding the F350, or was this filmed a year or so ago when you were still working on the F350?
Completely wrong about all the negative ev stuff. You don’t have to charge every 2.5 hours, and they are not boring to drive. That leaf sucks though.amazing build. Planning one of my own.
You will end up with a vehicle that you can only drive a certain distance before you have to spend 45 minutes at a charging station before you can go anywhere else, unless you're going to do the hybrid conversion on it. I spend $20 on gas that will last all week long, unless I do more driving than usual. Luv ya bro, but I'll keep my gas vehicle.
12:19 I'm amused that you compare cars to dates. The reason why I love that EVs make practically no sound is that I can hear the person in the seat next to me.
...then again, I'm the kind of guy that hates it when the keys in my pocket jingle and my wife threatens to put a cat bell on me, so...
Also, we need to get you into something more sporty than a Leaf like a Plaid edition Tesla or heck, even just an F-150 Lightning is going to be more fun than that Leaf.
Range anxiety is only a thing when you have an old Leaf which is basically a Model T in the EV world by now, with a terrible battery that has almost no range. I’ve been driving EV’s for over six years and haven’t had range anxiety for many years. I’m a through and through petrolhead, but love driving our EV as well, but for different reasons than my gas car.
I remember when you used you talent and knowledge on cool stuff. Goat, Audi, tank, Mercedes.
Made a cool shop, now just dumb shit, Electric, crap engines in stuff
Get better eh
Hey Rich, I know you are a awesome mechanic and also a great carpenter, however, I didn’t know that you were also a plumber! 18:55 😮
Driving long distance and it gets boring, that's about the best thing not happening, ("the best part is no part"), so instead off speeding up to focus your attention, engage the robot and watch for the robot mistakes, otherwise, "get a horse" is what the old timers used to tell drivers to whom exciting things happened. Ie horses would find their own way home and the rider only had to not fall off.., so in other words, these EV robots are getting as good as horses now, Cheaper than dieing.
Okay, you need a diesel generator in there to extend the range....and because pure electric is boring.
that is what they are doing to the ram truck
@@JD-yx7be it's the best solution we have so far for rural Canada. It's a problem when the distance between charging stations exceeds the range. Got a couple at work that bought a volt I think, they have a 25 minute drive on the highway to work and by the time they get home they are down to 15%. And this had been a very warm winter, if it gets to -40 they won't have the range.
Range no problem just recharge from your Edison hybrid pickup make sure to spec a charge point what the way chance says it you got a mobile type 4 charger
One question, as you've probably done that. When changing front subframe on a Leaf, how to suspend the engine? What is the best way?
Thanks!
Rich needs to go for a ride in a Tesla model S plaid and feel a 8.75 second 1/4 mile run. Someone close to him take him for a ride !
With you being associated with Edison I'm surprised you aren't making this a hybrid, or is that a future idea?
In 2024 you are not constantly thinking about range, your navigation will take care of that.
The leaf wants a bus engine too !.
Watching a Leaf battery being included in a hotrod swap is like watching someone build a 5.4 Triton swapped into a car after ripping the LS out of it. WHY!
If you see audi a4 b5 on scrap yard could you see if it has front blinker bulb holder, us spec i am looking cant find anything i am prom europe
if you're not filthy, then you're not rich, but maybe you're Alen, (from old movie)
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I have noticed that you work with out gloves again. What is your wife thinking abut that 😎😎😎
Those adapters to lift the car from the tires is slick. Do you know the weight capacity on them?
Thinking of the tool sweepstakes... my dads been a mechanic for cars and heavy machines for going on 50 years but i have no place to work on my car haha.. i love doing my own work but working on the street sucks!!! Oneday someone needs to do a sweepstakes for a shop instead of tools lol
Pave the way and ppl will follow🤣
@ClickOnPfrofile0341 youre an imbecile.
If you can't get aluminum tubes just try buying aluminium tubes. 😁😁😁😜
Very good to see the E V and classic car combo new direction of the channel.😊🎉
Its not a new direction. We just never build the same thing twice. We are building a 59 Fargo DT466 Roll off at the same time. It will be used to tow this car long distances lol
Just wondering if you build custom projects for clients?
Look, I just subscribed lol You gotta give me a chance to go catch up lol I see it was the video before I subbed so I didn't miss much. We are now a two Leaf house since joining lol So this definitely hits my interests. I'd love to take it slightly crazier or dumber myself though lol The first gen Leaf reminds me of old Citroen 2cv in a weird modern way. I want to be stupid lol
Edit: That first drive giggles lol Totally get it. It was dry for me, so my giggles came when it was rotating nicely around it's low center of gravity taking the onramp onto the freeway lol Since it's now "my car" it's getting autocrossed this summer.
10:11 OMG Is that the f3kitty sitting there torn apart....again? Or do you by chance have another complete white crewcab obs cab sitting in your shop? I'm confused now! What is happening there Rich? Like seriously 🤔😲🤦🏻♂️🛠️🔧🔩
You must be finally wrapping up the interior 100%, I hope. Guess it's time to charge the m12 seat battery & maybe hook it up to a regular fused 12v battery supply so you can use the m12 battery on actual Milwaukee tools in the shop. I am still shocked seeing that cab sitting there in the shop without the rest of the frame & Caterpillar engine. Hope everything is ok with the f3kitty!
How does the Title work get done in Canada for changing fuel types/ICE to BEV?
Love the content keep up the great work. Cant wait to see this and the dodge, Edison swap done.
Beautiful dog, very well behaved. Is she a pure shepherd? Some people are nervous about shepherds but the two I’ve had were both super loyal and smart and were great around kids and were very protective of my kids 👍
Got her from a rescue. Very well behaved and trainable.
You'd think with all the name dropping and product references, Princess Auto would have you and peg as ambassadors. Well, maybe not peg... but anyways...
How long ago was this recorded? The ftree kitty cab is still on the dolly
The rear subframe is upside down and will not work like that
Put a crank start Lister generator under the hood 😊
Just fyi for anyone who didn't know. My father in law bought a junkyard battery and disassembled it. He tested all the cells in his old battery pack and the junkyard pack and made one good battery pack from the 2. Fixed his Civic for about $400. Changed and charged the cells in his spare time
Poor Vince. It will be interesting too follow this build
Okay, when people refer to emissions, like a zero emission car, they are correct; If you look at what the word Emission means (the production and discharge of something, especially gas or radiation) you will find that all electric cars are in fact zero emissions. All ICE cars have the same downsides to being made (IE the environmental impact of mining for the materials they're made of) but ICE have the added downside of constantly 'emitting' pollution for its entire life span. Yes, generating the power for charging cars is also not great (getting better with solar wind and nuclear investments) but if you look at how Gasoline is made and then delivered to gas stations, EVs are still way ahead as far as mitigating the environmental impact. it doesn't take a scientist to see that.
Debatable. If you see how much fuel is needed to mine the minerals for batteries, dig the holes for the wind turbines, deliver the wind turbines and the amount of concrete poured into the hole to hold up the windmills, the amount of toxic glue used in the fibreglass blades of a turbine, they don't become neutral until the last 1/4 of their life span. And then the amount of extra energy needed to recycle all the materials... Keeping in mind that windmills, and solar panels don't get recycled, they just bury them where people can't see them.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE There are fuels used in transporting oil, refining and distributing fuels as well. Consider total amount of EV's on the road, compared to combustion vehicles. The amount of energy required to recycle batteries is super low, since there isn't much EV dead batteries to begin with. There are a few battery recycling plans are located in EU and NA continents. How many oil refineries there are? Hundreds? First mass produced EV models are 13 years old. Lithium batteries have 10-15 year lifespan. (end of projected lifespan means degradation 20 % or more) Batteries still work, but degradation should accelerate slightly from that point. Keep in mind that recycled materials replace some of the suply of freshly mined materials. True for not recycling windmills and panels. There are first tries to develop ways to recycle these as we speak. I think that we should use every way possible to get cheap energy. We should not be focusing strictly on one source of energy. I like your content but i have to disagree with some of your stated negatives about EV's. 1. If you consider 27 years as young, then i disprove the point about driver enjoyment. I find electric drivetrain way more responsive beause of instant torque and regen braking. I work on hyundai EV's. 😁
2. Range anxiety could apply to leafs. Leafs were pretty bad in terms of battery degradation. Are there any cooling ports on the battery case? Uncooled batteries really suffer when cycled frequently. Liquid cooled batteries in electric cars is standard now. 3. When you drove Topsy, you smiled in exitement. When you imagine this project in your head, you smile in exitement. I am just not convinced, you really see more negatives than positives on EV's. 😁 You work to make it even more positive. I will keep watching your projects, both combustion and electric ones.
I’d love to see someone make a battery back up for solar from the electric car batteries
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Take notes, Tesla.
This is how you engineer a battery.