"If you don't hit the point or lose on the COR, this is a winner". True words. LOL. What matters is the "probability of a win" with the expected value of each win versus the same with losses. It is true that once you get past the COR, you are at an advantage as a DP player. However, the advantage is not enough to overcome the disadvantage on the COR (8 to 3) of losing to a 7/11 vs. winning on a 2/3. Once you are past the COR, the way to maximize your advantage is taking max odds - the more the better - not the 6/8, or any other combination. That being said, the 6/8 is fairly conservative and will most likely only slowly eat away your bankroll over the long term.
Thanks Charles... What exactly is "taking advantage of Max Odds" The Odds are just a break even bet, no other way to slice it. Adding odds, taking away odds, maxing odds. All the same. In the long run it's just a break even. The only bet that matters is the flat, light or dark side. The only concept that truly matters is DISCIPLINE. All the rest is "whatever". Leave when your UP.
@@wagermethis Thanks for your comment! By wagering the maximum available odds, you mathematically reduce the house edge ( because as you correctly pointed out - odds have no house edge...and accordingly, reduce the overall house advantage of the wager) Thanks for your insight!
Another great video! Thanks for showing a sensible way to make big red your friend. I had always thought it was crazy basically betting against the most likely thing to happen! There are lots of directions to go once you get past the come out. Thanks for sharing this great information.
Maybe this video came out before your other 678 videos, but in your other ones you said to play the iron cross with this strategy whenever the point hits on 5, 6, or 8. Please tell me otherwise as this is what I plan to do based on your other videos (but on this one (at least at the beginning, you skipped that strat like 3 times when the point hit there).
Glad you're back! You make it essy to understand. I give you props and credit for my play and wins all the time! Nice you show losses. You and I are some of the YT channels that show it like it is!
@@MidAtlanticCrapsSorry Mid love you brother but getting a 7 winner on the DP and reducing it 60% in payoff is nuts The straight 6/8 or a stand alone DP with out perform the hedge Most hedge betters are down with this strategy
I have been working on this strategy for a while. Please try adding a $10 Field and show how it rolls out. You are putting $70 at risk vs $60, assuming that you are placing the 6 & 8. From what I have found from my roll outs, the Field pickups far out weigh the losses for playing it. Also, would love to setup a vitrual craps session with you to work out my strats before my cruise on Nov 21st.
I notice in a lot of your video's you say "Only let a shooter beat you twice" Obviously you play that way for a reason but isn't it more likely he won't knock you off a 3rd time? Or Is it simply so you don't start to go on tilt if you do get knocked off a 3rd time?
You are correct. I know there are crazy spikes and if a shooter knocks you off twice, I get away from him because I don't want one shooter to ruin a session. And yes TILT and the mental aspect is also part of it
Big fan of strategies like this where you make the 7 a winner. Considering how many times your point number got knocked off and how often the 7 hit early, it's amazing how you're only down $75 with all that action.
I did 7 sessions following this strategy and they were all winners. Now MY questions is how different is the roll of a dice on a PC when doing simulation vs. in real life at a casino table rolling by hand?!?!?!?!? that's the question
Thanks, well done. The way I play your strategy is that whenever the point is 6 or 8 I just place against the 6 or 8 with an amount to guarantee a win on an 6 or 8 hitting. Then on next roll a Don’t Come to start the process all over, i.e., ignoring the initial bets on 6 or 8 and doing everything else as documented in your video. What this does is always guarantee a winner on a 6 or 8. Could you please demo this tweak?
@@wagermethis Yes, while keeping the intent of winning of a 678 with your strategy by placing the proper amount of money on the 6/8 whenever you have a don’t(s) on them. Thanks for reply, I still feel that your strategy is the way to go on tables and bubble craps.
hi Jacob I like this style of play having the sevens on your side is always good. just thinking what if you place the point and another number or numbers as you win? so if the point hits you only lose five $35 - 100 does that make any sense?
@@joev.7909 Basically put a place bet on the come out point in case of early PSOs. which means you won’t lose 100 it will lighten the loss to $65. until you win a couple of other box numbers then you can remove it and go back to the Original method. I hope that clarifies it a little bit thanks take care Joe good luck at the tables
@@dandvd.472 Thanks for your clarification but something tells me that you like hedging to some degree as I also do. What strategies do you play based on some quality hedges may I ask?
Play darkside with progressive bets And play to win small on come out and over time U win, it's that simple. Yes the 4/10 buy bets pay well they never beat 7 when U play all day.
The dp & dc after the comeout are the best bets in the casino. You are the favorite getting paid even money. Not sure why more people don’t play them 🤷♂️
"If you don't hit the point or lose on the COR, this is a winner". True words. LOL.
What matters is the "probability of a win" with the expected value of each win versus the same with losses.
It is true that once you get past the COR, you are at an advantage as a DP player. However, the advantage is not enough to overcome the disadvantage on the COR (8 to 3) of losing to a 7/11 vs. winning on a 2/3. Once you are past the COR, the way to maximize your advantage is taking max odds - the more the better - not the 6/8, or any other combination.
That being said, the 6/8 is fairly conservative and will most likely only slowly eat away your bankroll over the long term.
Thanks Charles... What exactly is "taking advantage of Max Odds" The Odds are just a break even bet, no other way to slice it. Adding odds, taking away odds, maxing odds. All the same. In the long run it's just a break even. The only bet that matters is the flat, light or dark side.
The only concept that truly matters is DISCIPLINE. All the rest is "whatever". Leave when your UP.
@@wagermethis Thanks for your comment! By wagering the maximum available odds, you mathematically reduce the house edge ( because as you correctly pointed out - odds have no house edge...and accordingly, reduce the overall house advantage of the wager)
Thanks for your insight!
Another great video! Thanks for showing a sensible way to make big red your friend. I had always thought it was crazy basically betting against the most likely thing to happen! There are lots of directions to go once you get past the come out. Thanks for sharing this great information.
Nice to be able to establish the seven as a way to make money at the craps table.
Yes the 7 being on your side is key to sustained success
Maybe this video came out before your other 678 videos, but in your other ones you said to play the iron cross with this strategy whenever the point hits on 5, 6, or 8. Please tell me otherwise as this is what I plan to do based on your other videos (but on this one (at least at the beginning, you skipped that strat like 3 times when the point hit there).
Nevermind, at 14:00 you said that you cover the more advanced betting techniques in later videos. I must have watched those first.
Yeah this is a base concept video.
Glad you're back! You make it essy to understand. I give you props and credit for my play and wins all the time! Nice you show losses. You and I are some of the YT channels that show it like it is!
Yes sir, Mid Atlantic you are one of the best
Thanks!
@@MidAtlanticCrapsSorry Mid love you brother but getting a 7 winner on the DP and reducing it 60% in payoff is nuts The straight 6/8 or a stand alone DP with out perform the hedge Most hedge betters are down with this strategy
I have been working on this strategy for a while. Please try adding a $10 Field and show how it rolls out. You are putting $70 at risk vs $60, assuming that you are placing the 6 & 8. From what I have found from my roll outs, the Field pickups far out weigh the losses for playing it.
Also, would love to setup a vitrual craps session with you to work out my strats before my cruise on Nov 21st.
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I notice in a lot of your video's you say "Only let a shooter beat you twice" Obviously you play that way for a reason but isn't it more likely he won't knock you off a 3rd time? Or Is it simply so you don't start to go on tilt if you do get knocked off a 3rd time?
You are correct. I know there are crazy spikes and if a shooter knocks you off twice, I get away from him because I don't want one shooter to ruin a session. And yes TILT and the mental aspect is also part of it
Big fan of strategies like this where you make the 7 a winner. Considering how many times your point number got knocked off and how often the 7 hit early, it's amazing how you're only down $75 with all that action.
Yes this strategy is very solid and has good comeback ability
I did 7 sessions following this strategy and they were all winners. Now MY questions is how different is the roll of a dice on a PC when doing simulation vs. in real life at a casino table rolling by hand?!?!?!?!? that's the question
I do it in real life. This is my only play anyomore
Hey Jacob, your old friend from the Monarch here. Glad your back
Mr. Wilson how are you sir. How it the AXE
@@wagermethis Grandson and I have been throwing the ax some. Lot of fun.
Thanks, well done. The way I play your strategy is that whenever the point is 6 or 8 I just place against the 6 or 8 with an amount to guarantee a win on an 6 or 8 hitting. Then on next roll a Don’t Come to start the process all over, i.e., ignoring the initial bets on 6 or 8 and doing everything else as documented in your video. What this does is always guarantee a winner on a 6 or 8. Could you please demo this tweak?
Nice so you eliminate the 6 and 8 as points. That is a good idea
@@wagermethis Yes, while keeping the intent of winning of a 678 with your strategy by placing the proper amount of money on the 6/8 whenever you have a don’t(s) on them. Thanks for reply, I still feel that your strategy is the way to go on tables and bubble craps.
hi Jacob I like this style of play having the sevens on your side is always good. just thinking what if you place the point and another number or numbers as you win? so if the point hits you only lose five $35 - 100 does that make any sense?
Please explain that better. I get where you're going with that but it's a little unclear.
@@joev.7909 Basically put a place bet on the come out point in case of early PSOs. which means you won’t lose 100 it will lighten the loss to $65. until you win a couple of other box numbers then you can remove it and go back to the Original method. I hope that clarifies it a little bit thanks take care Joe good luck at the tables
@@dandvd.472 Thanks for your clarification but something tells me that you like hedging to some degree as I also do. What strategies do you play based on some quality hedges may I ask?
I didn't see where Jacob answered your question Dan.
Sure your using profit to chase down your risk. I have done videos about this before
Love this 678 play. When the point is 4,9,10 playing the iron cross makes sense
Can you explain what the Iron cross is?
@@marcialbaralt596 Placing the 5,6,8 plus the field so that you win something on every roll.
IRON Cross. PLACE THE 5,6,and 8 and play a field bet. This covers all the numbers but 7 every roll
Play darkside with progressive bets And play to win small on come out and over time U win, it's that simple. Yes the 4/10 buy bets pay well they never beat 7 when U play all day.
Thanks
The dp & dc after the comeout are the best bets in the casino. You are the favorite getting paid even money. Not sure why more people don’t play them 🤷♂️
That is a very true statement