The funniest part for me is the story behind maisters sora specifically. Dude has a secondary Sora, pulls it out sometimes and has NEVER taken even just one game with it. Finally takes his first tournament game with Sora EVER and they send the fucking confetti canons. It's the best moment ever.
I remember shortly after release this one guy was adamant Sora was top tier despite everyone else pointing out the floaties flaw. Was Hella mad about it. If only that guy could see this now haha. I don't even know what tier Sora is in lmao
You need to look into the mango confetti story as well. Mango won 2016 and 2017 with no confetti. 2018 armada wins and mango is commentating. Armada gets confetti mango says "where was my confetti when I won last year?" Then you get to this year and mango wins again with no confetti. He even mentions it in his winners speech. So seeing them use mangos confetti for this made it even more hilarious.
My perception of this accident is that the guy in charge of the confetti just REALLY hated Steve and was overjoyed to see him lose at least one match Jokes aside, probably the funniest clip to come out of a smash tournament. Seeing all the pro players / community veterans reacting to it was hilarious
I have never laughed at a smash moment so hard in my life. Shoutout to Onin though, I think they’re handled it really well and are getting much more hate than they deserve.
Yeah I don’t get hating the player, I hate Steve to oblivion and I actually hope onin keeps winning, I hope top players pick up Steve and start winning, and I hope other new/unknown players start doing well with Steve, because that’s what’s gonna get the character banned
@@illford brawl didn’t ban metaknigh because all the top people played him and many would boycott tournaments that did ban him. Smash4 had a couple issues. Bayo actually did recibe that final patch months after the character came out that nerfed her. She actually wasn’t winning tournaments for a while after that then started to rise up again and by that time the new game was already announced and the community just didn’t bother to ban her (but they did ban double could) I personally think they should have banned her but it’s whatever. If ultimate can out a year later than it did them in very confident bayo would have been banned. I seriously doubt a new smash game is coming anytime soon so we will have years to ban Steve if he keeps getting worse
The worst part about the cheering for Sora was the fact that this is THE FIRST TIME in HISTORY people were cheering for maister too 😭 I was crying when I found out about this 😭
I feel like your take on Steve is one of the best I've heard. If he is so detrimental to the game, you have to show how. If you don't then he's stuck here.
Yep, we already have examples of what a truly oppressive character on release is, Leeroy from Tekken, Bayo from Smash 4, heck even Brawl Meta Knight let brawl's logetivity down in the long run and players couldn't wait to jump over to Smash 4 after. Steve ain't close to the level of BS
@@boogie4552 doesn't have to be a youngling. The issue is when a pro picks up these characters. Top 8 late Smash 4 tourneys with nearly all bayonetta mains was a joke.
@@aquilleswinkler5051 In that regard of domination sure; but tbf, pretty sure steve is the only character to win majors by different people in ultimate
I've said on twitter for weeks now,the people who think Steve is so easy and Onin doesn't deserve results should go win a major. Someone told me that they basically have responsibilities anda life despite using their little free time to insult a 16 year old child for winning in a video game using funny block man
More SSC confetti backstory below- That had me dying especially with the mango ssc confetti story line. I normally don't watch ultimate grand finals since I'm a melee fan but I like maister and wanted to see him finally win. Anyways I haven't finished the video yet but I don't think Coney paints the backstory. So I'll do it just in case. Mango who won super smash con in 2016 didn't get confetti, mango then wins in 2017 and doesn't get confetti. Then in 2018 mango is commentating (btw 2018 ssc armada vs m2k is one of the best sets of all time) armada wins and they set off confetti for armada. Mango on the mic goes "I didn't get confetti, where was my fing confetti last year when I won?!" Or something close to that. Fast forward to this year 2022. Mango again wins SSC.... No confetti. Mango in his winners speech even mentions how he didn't get confetti. So to watch them use mangos confetti for a single game win for maister was one of the funniest things ever.
Honestly, even if Steve is bad for the game's health from a character diversity standpoint in the long term, I see this as more of a Brawl Meta Knight situation, not a SSB4 Bayonettta one. My reason being that Steve has so many just plain silly options at times, that I don't think he'll ever really be boring to watch at a high level. Its not Bayonetta where we got identical combo strings and setup from pretty much every high level player. So ultimately, I don't think Steve can actually kill the game regardless. Banning him this early would just be removing potential source of entertainment.
Great point about picking up Jake. I think if people want him out of the game, they should PROVE that he's not healthy for the game. Weird that you brought up Multiversus while talking about Smash tho
I find it funny it started the same year after the Coney Certified: Worst Smash Tournment that's ever happened (APEX 2015) Its Like Justin got really tired of the Apex shitshows and decided he could do better, and he did!
I think it'd be cool if someone like Maximilian or Justin Wong or even Sakurai himself took Coney's quiz for fun. Somebody not only knows, but has played as all of those characters.
I was sitting right behind the confetti machine when it went off and there’s a guy who manually pops the confetti after the first sora match. I’m pretty sure he just reacted to the crowd
Man how are smashers so bad at reading body language to not see that Coney was not open to communication when he's reclining back with a hat over his eyes?
A widely known but rarely acknowledged phenomenon known as "temporary induced autism" in which a person who is normally not autistic suddenly flies deep into the spectrum, but only for one very awkward social interaction.
I know this footage is older than the tweets and stream, but Riddles picked up Steve and has already done crazy stuff with him. The more I watch Steve the more interesting thing he is to me, but he just seems so out of line compared to the roster
17:30 HOLY SHIT MAN I REMEMBER THIS. it was so strange to me because at the time i was about 11-12 and genuinely didnt understand the point of being so overboard with your remarks to someone you will likely never meaningfully interact with in your life
Remember in Brawl how there were too many MKs around the world and when communities were sick and tired of MK and wanted to Ban him Japan and Tristate threatened to not go to those events? That's the main concern about waiting too long to ban Steve
Steve isn't even half as dominant as Brawl MK, and the reason why so many people didn't want MK banned was because he was the only character in the game that had any kind of tech or combos that could be even somewhat comparable to Melee. It's simply not a comparable situation.
The hilarious irony in people who have never played Brawl saying "remember in Brawl"... Lmfao, also the communities against MK were a vocal minority, not an actual representative of the community. Anyone with a few braincells back in that day would know banning MK just opens the floodgates for actual absolute degenerate characters to take over. I'd be willing to bet 9/10 people would rather play an MK than an ICies. Meta Knight is more comparable to an even better Melee Fox than Bayo or Steve. Sure you can plank and be degen with MK, but the general gameplay is engaging and fast with a high skill ceiling
Oh the homophobia thing is accually so interesting to hear about! That makes a lot of sense tbh, but seeing as I only descovered bayo has a GF recently and I was into smash but not into the community in smash 4, I never really thought about it that way!
My solution for Steve is the same solution I had for Metaknight. Ban Steve/Metaknight from regular tournament, but make a Steve/Metaknight only format.
Glad smash is not dead, we need the meta to evolve and more majors toto let the top players happen. As for Steve i just wish the stun-lag after minecart command grab is reduced or launch is reduced like when you are grounded like with DK, Banjo or Mr G&G
"Homophobic" insults like that are common amongst the FGC. They didn't call you that because of the actual character Bayonetta, but because you were playing an incredibly broken character. I bet you the same thing happened with Brawl MK players.
Generally agree with Coney's takes, but the idea that the community would ban the character if everyone picked them up is hilarious to me, because he saw that it doesn't work twice already. Both with bayo and meta knight people would complain that now they spent so long learning the character or picking counterpicks against them that they'd refuse to go to tournaments where they weren't allowed, and those tournaments failed. If we're gonna do it, we gotta do it a least a bit earlier or make sure we do it on a large enough scale
Case in Point Ice Climbers Wobbling. It was an issue for years, But in the end, that shit was just so awful on such a large scale, tourneys had enough. As oppressive as Bayo, Meta, or possibly Steve feels, at least you can MOVE when facing them. But get in an ICy Wobble hold and you might as well go to the Snack Bar and come back because you will still be locked in.
It’s because it was supposed to be released when either of the two won grands but instead it was released when the guy that would end up losing the set (Maister) won a single game.
Thumbs up, real shit Coney. And yeah A lot of Bayo hate went hand in hand with homophobia Some ppl used one to excuse the other and so on and so forth. I mainly supported Bayo players as a way of standing by the LGBT Even tho not all of them were LGBT.
I really don't understand the mentality of smash players around banning characters. I'm not really into Smash at all so I don't know much but it seems whenever a character starts winning anything, there's a ton of calls to ban them. It seems ridiculous. I agree with Coney that if the character is so good and breaking the game, pick the character up and start winning with them. If there's like 6 Steves in a top 8, maybe there would be a case to ban. Until then, it's like 1 or 2 players. Either learn how to beat them, pick up the character and show how broken they really are, or shut up.
I mean sure, but so far the only ban that's actually actually happened is banning using two Clouds on a team in doubles in Smash 4. So like, yeah, there's always a call to ban characters but it never actually happens
@@noisepollution4473 Sure but it seems like the thing smash players always go to is to want to ban the character instead of trying to figure out how to beat them. I'm mostly only familiar with fighting games but it doesn't seem like this is a thing in a lot of other scenes. The only time stuff is banned in fighting games is when it truly breaks the game.
This might sound dumb but I think that if the Steve problem gets to bad that instead of just banning him outright they use the custom, balance and if it's still bad than ban him. I'm aware of the fact that this could make the problem worse as it could make his combo's and juggle game better/more annoying to the point that if he hits you you just don't get to play the game. I personally don't think this should realistically should/is going to happen. Sorry the rant I was bored on my way home from work
Imagine telling someone to off themselves because they play characters like steve/kazuya/min min. Let alone over a video game and its characters in general. That’s just pathetic
The funniest part for me is the story behind maisters sora specifically. Dude has a secondary Sora, pulls it out sometimes and has NEVER taken even just one game with it. Finally takes his first tournament game with Sora EVER and they send the fucking confetti canons. It's the best moment ever.
I remember shortly after release this one guy was adamant Sora was top tier despite everyone else pointing out the floaties flaw. Was Hella mad about it.
If only that guy could see this now haha.
I don't even know what tier Sora is in lmao
He won a game before, don't remember where exactly
You need to look into the mango confetti story as well. Mango won 2016 and 2017 with no confetti. 2018 armada wins and mango is commentating. Armada gets confetti mango says "where was my confetti when I won last year?" Then you get to this year and mango wins again with no confetti. He even mentions it in his winners speech. So seeing them use mangos confetti for this made it even more hilarious.
@@aquilleswinkler5051 mid a i think
This Sora is sometimes called the Surrender Sora, which is a funny as fuck nickname for a Sora.
Coney's the kind of guy to see a lion bite into a zebra and ask "that KO'd?"
That eliminated?
That committed not-living?
That set the game?!
That put it to permanent sleep??
That devastated?
My perception of this accident is that the guy in charge of the confetti just REALLY hated Steve and was overjoyed to see him lose at least one match
Jokes aside, probably the funniest clip to come out of a smash tournament. Seeing all the pro players / community veterans reacting to it was hilarious
The other part is the stream graphics just saying LMAO and AYYYYY
I love how the bottom-screen text just said “LMAO” while the chaos was unfolding. 😂
AYYYYYYY
PICK IT UP
I have never laughed at a smash moment so hard in my life. Shoutout to Onin though, I think they’re handled it really well and are getting much more hate than they deserve.
Yeah I don’t get hating the player, I hate Steve to oblivion and I actually hope onin keeps winning, I hope top players pick up Steve and start winning, and I hope other new/unknown players start doing well with Steve, because that’s what’s gonna get the character banned
@@EthanALS nah. It ain't worked for two games bro the smash community is a bunch of people with low effort
@@illford brawl didn’t ban metaknigh because all the top people played him and many would boycott tournaments that did ban him. Smash4 had a couple issues. Bayo actually did recibe that final patch months after the character came out that nerfed her. She actually wasn’t winning tournaments for a while after that then started to rise up again and by that time the new game was already announced and the community just didn’t bother to ban her (but they did ban double could) I personally think they should have banned her but it’s whatever. If ultimate can out a year later than it did them in very confident bayo would have been banned. I seriously doubt a new smash game is coming anytime soon so we will have years to ban Steve if he keeps getting worse
Poor onin dude
@Cristian Araujo 🤓
8:07 Conney really does perfectly fit the late night TV show host vibes.
"Give it six months" he's a fucking prophet
That walkout was honestly perfectly in character for coney
Initially I thought he did it by accident, but upon further inspection I think he did it on purpose and just sold the oops face really well.
Those poor production people, after they realized they fucked up.
Still incredibly hilarious, though
big props to EE. That ACTUALLY jump scared me. I was not prepared
Always love story time with Coney.
The worst part about the cheering for Sora was the fact that this is THE FIRST TIME in HISTORY people were cheering for maister too 😭 I was crying when I found out about this 😭
I believe Hbox reported that originally one of the guys said "No, No, No," and the other guy in control of the confetti heard "Now, Now, Now."
I feel like your take on Steve is one of the best I've heard. If he is so detrimental to the game, you have to show how. If you don't then he's stuck here.
YEAH! If anyone can win just by picking up Steve, then do it, coward! Otherwise he's fine!
Yep, we already have examples of what a truly oppressive character on release is, Leeroy from Tekken, Bayo from Smash 4, heck even Brawl Meta Knight let brawl's logetivity down in the long run and players couldn't wait to jump over to Smash 4 after.
Steve ain't close to the level of BS
@@aquilleswinkler5051 Idk bro, I ain't never seen jimbob or lil timmy pull up to a major and win with brawl metaknight or bayo 4
@@boogie4552 doesn't have to be a youngling. The issue is when a pro picks up these characters. Top 8 late Smash 4 tourneys with nearly all bayonetta mains was a joke.
@@aquilleswinkler5051 In that regard of domination sure; but tbf, pretty sure steve is the only character to win majors by different people in ultimate
Sora finally got added just for this moment to happen against Minecraft fucking Steve of all characters lmao
my favorite part was how much you could hear coney dying of laughter in on commentary
Beating Steve is such an accomplishment that winning one match against him calls for a celebration
4:18 this is the last supper of smash bros lmao
I've said on twitter for weeks now,the people who think Steve is so easy and Onin doesn't deserve results should go win a major. Someone told me that they basically have responsibilities anda life despite using their little free time to insult a 16 year old child for winning in a video game using funny block man
loved your "name one fighting game character" event. great stuff
Same here! I was playing along while watching and the only one i didn’t know was Blizzard lol
I agree perfectly with Coney's view on banning Steve. Also the first Sora dub confetti was a day to remember lol! 🎊 🎉
I think it’s even funnier to add the layer of everyone cheering like that for Steve losing one single game
The real context behind that moment makes something that was already funny so much better especially in hindsight.
More SSC confetti backstory below-
That had me dying especially with the mango ssc confetti story line. I normally don't watch ultimate grand finals since I'm a melee fan but I like maister and wanted to see him finally win.
Anyways I haven't finished the video yet but I don't think Coney paints the backstory. So I'll do it just in case. Mango who won super smash con in 2016 didn't get confetti, mango then wins in 2017 and doesn't get confetti. Then in 2018 mango is commentating (btw 2018 ssc armada vs m2k is one of the best sets of all time) armada wins and they set off confetti for armada. Mango on the mic goes "I didn't get confetti, where was my fing confetti last year when I won?!" Or something close to that. Fast forward to this year 2022. Mango again wins SSC.... No confetti. Mango in his winners speech even mentions how he didn't get confetti. So to watch them use mangos confetti for a single game win for maister was one of the funniest things ever.
Year and a half later, it’s STILL the funniest thing ever
Coney is honestly the perfect carny
Yakuza music playing the moment there’s a potential fight happening LMAO
Honestly, you handled the music playing out extremely well. You were honestly the perfect guy for this.
I don’t call it Steve Hate, I call it Steve Fear, because that’s basically what it is.
To be fair, there are a lot of people that truly do hate the character. Fear is a good way to put it though
Honestly, even if Steve is bad for the game's health from a character diversity standpoint in the long term, I see this as more of a Brawl Meta Knight situation, not a SSB4 Bayonettta one. My reason being that Steve has so many just plain silly options at times, that I don't think he'll ever really be boring to watch at a high level. Its not Bayonetta where we got identical combo strings and setup from pretty much every high level player. So ultimately, I don't think Steve can actually kill the game regardless. Banning him this early would just be removing potential source of entertainment.
Great point about picking up Jake. I think if people want him out of the game, they should PROVE that he's not healthy for the game.
Weird that you brought up Multiversus while talking about Smash tho
Jake OP? I thought people hated Bugs/Velma the most?
@@aquilleswinkler5051 no, Jake the Steve player
justin is one of the coolest people on the fkng planet and smash con is the greatest idea anyone ever had
I find it funny it started the same year after the Coney Certified: Worst Smash Tournment that's ever happened (APEX 2015)
Its Like Justin got really tired of the Apex shitshows and decided he could do better, and he did!
@@aquilleswinkler5051 and ya know what the best part is?? if justin can do it, so can you!
@@cheech8082 lmao, tbf Apex 2015 was not setting the bar very high XD
That's me and my friends there!!! We were right in front of the production booth; right in front of the guy who prematurely confetti-ed!! 😂😂
I’ve never laughed harder at something in relation to a smash tourney, plus Sora getting his first win at an NA tournament made it that much better
That was the FUNNIEST Smash Accident EVER
Funk Goes On was perfect song for the drunk guy story
12:30 f'ing KILLED IT with the music here, wonderful little touch!
When Funk goes on kicked in i got a fight or flight respone. Perfect choice of music for that edit
Okay, I started watching Coney 2 minths ago, big fan, kinda noticed his face was small but OH MY GOSH HEARING HIM ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS SO STRANGE!
I think it'd be cool if someone like Maximilian or Justin Wong or even Sakurai himself took Coney's quiz for fun.
Somebody not only knows, but has played as all of those characters.
I was sitting right behind the confetti machine when it went off and there’s a guy who manually pops the confetti after the first sora match. I’m pretty sure he just reacted to the crowd
Man how are smashers so bad at reading body language to not see that Coney was not open to communication when he's reclining back with a hat over his eyes?
That’s just a “fan” thing in general and it gets much worse than that. Some of those mfs will break into your house to see you
A widely known but rarely acknowledged phenomenon known as "temporary induced autism" in which a person who is normally not autistic suddenly flies deep into the spectrum, but only for one very awkward social interaction.
Calling Hbox the "Arbiter of Chaos" is one of the funniest things ever and I still don't fully understand why two years later
God bless you, Coney.
LES GO PRODUCTION BRING ON THE DISNEY FANTASMIC SHOW
Coney does kinda have a small face, it's very charming tho!
Never knew that there was more to SoraGate than I thought.
I know this footage is older than the tweets and stream, but Riddles picked up Steve and has already done crazy stuff with him. The more I watch Steve the more interesting thing he is to me, but he just seems so out of line compared to the roster
threatrically, you call STOP or HOLD to say no, i dont blame him lol
This moment is Onin's only claim to Smash fame, which is crazy
Mans knocked over my boy Camo’s sheet music
Coney I am sitting on the toilet and am struggling. I am about to take my shirt off help me
you okay?
@@callmefleet what part of “help me” indicates that Johnathan M is okay?
@@gabrielabrera9966 it had been a while and I had wondered if he had gotten help yet, it would appear not
@@callmefleet poor Jonathan :(
Coney's FNAF jumpscare impression is killing me
Steve sounds like a top tier yugioh deck
That ending is so true! If you think something is so strong... pick it up.
Excellent video, explanation of moments, and your opinion on Steve
Imagine telling a 16 year old smash player to kill himself after he won his first tournament
Small correction: he won double down and combo breaker iirc
*first major tournament. but yea ppl are wack
17:30 HOLY SHIT MAN I REMEMBER THIS. it was so strange to me because at the time i was about 11-12 and genuinely didnt understand the point of being so overboard with your remarks to someone you will likely never meaningfully interact with in your life
What’s the song that plays right at the beginning of the video? It’s kind of lovely ngl. ❤️
thinking that a drunk person is going to swing no matter what HAS to be a mang0 influence
13:40 honestly that's relatable
12:06 always forget about this part of the video 😂
the background music in the beginning of the video is from the "a hat in time" game
I think more people would be okay with Steve in the game if all his tricks and traps made cartoonish hanna barbera sound effects
This is still one of the funniest things
Still horrified at Coney’s grass sandals
Maister's Sora has taken more games off Onin Steve than Mkleo Byleth. Let that sink in.
Remember in Brawl how there were too many MKs around the world and when communities were sick and tired of MK and wanted to Ban him Japan and Tristate threatened to not go to those events? That's the main concern about waiting too long to ban Steve
Steve isn't even half as dominant as Brawl MK, and the reason why so many people didn't want MK banned was because he was the only character in the game that had any kind of tech or combos that could be even somewhat comparable to Melee. It's simply not a comparable situation.
The hilarious irony in people who have never played Brawl saying "remember in Brawl"... Lmfao, also the communities against MK were a vocal minority, not an actual representative of the community. Anyone with a few braincells back in that day would know banning MK just opens the floodgates for actual absolute degenerate characters to take over. I'd be willing to bet 9/10 people would rather play an MK than an ICies. Meta Knight is more comparable to an even better Melee Fox than Bayo or Steve. Sure you can plank and be degen with MK, but the general gameplay is engaging and fast with a high skill ceiling
Oh the homophobia thing is accually so interesting to hear about! That makes a lot of sense tbh, but seeing as I only descovered bayo has a GF recently and I was into smash but not into the community in smash 4, I never really thought about it that way!
lmao, the rage of those losers who upon discovering she's taken, then decide to backflip and hate instead so they feel justified.
@@aquilleswinkler5051 over a fictional character too, imagine!
@@byrontheusurper6505 no need to imagine, anime fandoms are a daily clown fiesta for this cringe
You want Steve banned because he's killing the game. I want Steve banned because I want to kill the game. We are not the same.
My solution for Steve is the same solution I had for Metaknight. Ban Steve/Metaknight from regular tournament, but make a Steve/Metaknight only format.
If that's unrealistic... yeah... ok.
YOOOO HE WON LESSS GOOOO
this was probably better for the event
Kinda feel bad for him, dealing with all the hate then having that happen to him, way to go smash con.
My favorite smash moment to this day is still, “my b”
Excellent use of the Yakuza music lmao
All of top 8 in Jaiden’s tournament was all Ridley we should ban that character
Glad smash is not dead, we need the meta to evolve and more majors toto let the top players happen. As for Steve i just wish the stun-lag after minecart command grab is reduced or launch is reduced like when you are grounded like with DK, Banjo or Mr G&G
7 -Steves- JAKES IN TOP 8 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
man I reeeeeeeeeally should've gone to Smash Con
next year ig
I love coney bro😭😭😭
I’m not gonna lie the first time I saw the behind the scenes clip I thought Justin was pointing at the button saying press it press it
It’s so funny seeing chat be confused at the bayo homophobia thing bc that shit was REAL, I got called a f*gg*t for playing her on anthers ladder
"Homophobic" insults like that are common amongst the FGC. They didn't call you that because of the actual character Bayonetta, but because you were playing an incredibly broken character. I bet you the same thing happened with Brawl MK players.
@@TrueCarthaginian How does that make it ok or not homophobic???
@@TrueCarthaginian why did you put homophobic in quotes as if the F word isn't THE homophobic slur
I love coney so much
Poor guy.
Hey look it's me
Generally agree with Coney's takes, but the idea that the community would ban the character if everyone picked them up is hilarious to me, because he saw that it doesn't work twice already. Both with bayo and meta knight people would complain that now they spent so long learning the character or picking counterpicks against them that they'd refuse to go to tournaments where they weren't allowed, and those tournaments failed. If we're gonna do it, we gotta do it a least a bit earlier or make sure we do it on a large enough scale
Who knows really. Unless everyone picks Steve up and creates a narrative that the character is braindead and legitimately ruining the game who knows.
Thats what Coney is saying, if Steve is really so bad for the game then the top 8 should eventually be mostly Steve.
Case in Point Ice Climbers Wobbling. It was an issue for years, But in the end, that shit was just so awful on such a large scale, tourneys had enough.
As oppressive as Bayo, Meta, or possibly Steve feels, at least you can MOVE when facing them. But get in an ICy Wobble hold and you might as well go to the Snack Bar and come back because you will still be locked in.
Jake is best Smash Character for sure
I’m curious about the homophobia associated with bayonetta I genuinely don’t know anything about it
Pick him up is the best take , obviously
The hat does a lot to help frame your face
Wait is it because the confetti was released before the tournament ended or is it because it was released on the wrong side? I don't get this...
It’s because it was supposed to be released when either of the two won grands but instead it was released when the guy that would end up losing the set (Maister) won a single game.
Thumbs up, real shit Coney.
And yeah
A lot of Bayo hate went hand in hand with homophobia
Some ppl used one to excuse the other and so on and so forth.
I mainly supported Bayo players as a way of standing by the LGBT
Even tho not all of them were LGBT.
Coney coney coney. You were supposed to do Conan’s string dance and such during the music.
What the hell happened at Smashcon?
I should've gone.
I really don't understand the mentality of smash players around banning characters. I'm not really into Smash at all so I don't know much but it seems whenever a character starts winning anything, there's a ton of calls to ban them. It seems ridiculous. I agree with Coney that if the character is so good and breaking the game, pick the character up and start winning with them. If there's like 6 Steves in a top 8, maybe there would be a case to ban. Until then, it's like 1 or 2 players. Either learn how to beat them, pick up the character and show how broken they really are, or shut up.
I mean sure, but so far the only ban that's actually actually happened is banning using two Clouds on a team in doubles in Smash 4. So like, yeah, there's always a call to ban characters but it never actually happens
@@noisepollution4473 Sure but it seems like the thing smash players always go to is to want to ban the character instead of trying to figure out how to beat them. I'm mostly only familiar with fighting games but it doesn't seem like this is a thing in a lot of other scenes. The only time stuff is banned in fighting games is when it truly breaks the game.
What is the song that starts around 5:00
I don’t remember exactly what it’s called, but it’s the practice stage music from Mario strikers charged
This might sound dumb but I think that if the Steve problem gets to bad that instead of just banning him outright they use the custom, balance and if it's still bad than ban him. I'm aware of the fact that this could make the problem worse as it could make his combo's and juggle game better/more annoying to the point that if he hits you you just don't get to play the game. I personally don't think this should realistically should/is going to happen. Sorry the rant I was bored on my way home from work
I'm sorry but you are smoking weed
I know
I rlly need to stat playing smash against other ppl, shit looks fun!
Last 4 mins of the video he talks about the turnament lol not complaining
Imagine telling someone to off themselves because they play characters like steve/kazuya/min min. Let alone over a video game and its characters in general. That’s just pathetic