Hmm. I will try those two again, it's a bit more difficult to notice loudness between two CDs for me as it takes a few seconds to switch. The reverb is somewhat clear though. Thank you as well for being here!
In Canada we briefly got the original 1960's stereo mixes of help and rubber soul on cd. These were made by "disque amerique". As far as a I know the only way to get them on cd unless you buy the entire mono box set.
Yeah, that was one of those Beatels related mishaps I think, but maybe a happy one. I would be so curious to know how does the 65 mix of Help sound on the early limited CDs from disque versus the one on the Mono set from 09. That is also because I think the latter sounds kinda amazing.
In your commentary, you referred to the “Help” Album as a studio album whereas here in the USA we consider both the UK and the USA releases as movie or film soundtracks; especially with the George Martin orchestral music arrangements on side two. This is also true of “Hard Day’s Night” and Yellow Submarine” for the same reason. “Magical Mystery Tour” is either considered a soundtrack as released here in the USA or a compilation. “Let It Be” is either a studio album or a soundtrack since it’s essentially derived from a film documentary. This is in reference to the original releases not necessarily to later CD versions, remixes, remasters, etcetera.
The Beatles released this as an album. They didn't considered it as a soundtrack, so, you cannot find that word in the artwork. It's an album. In the USA, Capitol butchered the original UK releases and made those "soundtracks". Cash grab.
I guess it depends on how people came in contact with this for the first time. It is somewhat natural for certain countries to have this perspective when the record was released with only music present in the film, was advertised as such and was linked closely to the film release. I think it's more visible with AHDN. Certain songs on Help! were written for the movie at least to a certain extent. But the recording and inclusion of Yesterday and a couple of other tracks make the UK album stand on its own, and in my opinion quite independent from the movie. It is a reality that the construction of the batch of US albums up until Sgt Pepper was partially resulted from Capitol's insistent need to re-arrange the releases as they thought woulf get them more sales, from the technical angle of limiting the no. of tracks on an album to limit the royalties, the involvement of United Artists who owned distribution of just the music included in the films and had nothing to do with the band's idea of an album. This was made very clear once they had enough leverage to force Capitol to release what they wanted the way they wanted.
Accurate. But not simply a cash grab, it was also forced by the movie release rights for the US. Although anyway, it would be a couple more years until The Beatles had enough pull to force proper album releases in the US. The UK Help was largely seen as their 5th studio album, with some of the songs being in the movie as well.
My ranking: Stereo: 1) German A-2/B-3 2) Dutch 2-Y/1-Y 3) UK -4/-4 4) UK -1/-1 5) MFSL 6) 2009 CD 7) 1987 CD Mono: 1) 2014 Vinyl 2) 2009 CD 3) UK -1/-1 I can’t really mix in the mono with stereo. They’re different animals so I have to compare them separately.
The US one yes. The UK one - definitely not. Or at most partially as half of the songs were in the movie. Arguably the most iconic song on it is Yesterday and that had nothing to do with the movie.
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The 2009 cd is louder than the 1987 & both have heavy reverb on some songs.
Thanks for your review.
Hmm. I will try those two again, it's a bit more difficult to notice loudness between two CDs for me as it takes a few seconds to switch. The reverb is somewhat clear though. Thank you as well for being here!
Did you know that the song It’s Only Love was recorded during the Help album
Indeed. Included in the UK Help! album but then included in the US Rubber Soul.
In Canada we briefly got the original 1960's stereo mixes of help and rubber soul on cd. These were made by "disque amerique". As far as a I know the only way to get them on cd unless you buy the entire mono box set.
Yeah, that was one of those Beatels related mishaps I think, but maybe a happy one. I would be so curious to know how does the 65 mix of Help sound on the early limited CDs from disque versus the one on the Mono set from 09. That is also because I think the latter sounds kinda amazing.
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In your commentary, you referred to the “Help” Album as a studio album whereas here in the USA we consider both the UK and the USA releases as movie or film soundtracks; especially with the George Martin orchestral music arrangements on side two.
This is also true of “Hard Day’s Night” and Yellow Submarine” for the same reason.
“Magical Mystery Tour” is either considered a soundtrack as released here in the USA or a compilation. “Let It Be” is either a studio album or a soundtrack since it’s essentially derived from a film documentary.
This is in reference to the original releases not necessarily to later CD versions, remixes, remasters, etcetera.
The Beatles released this as an album. They didn't considered it as a soundtrack, so, you cannot find that word in the artwork. It's an album. In the USA, Capitol butchered the original UK releases and made those "soundtracks". Cash grab.
I guess it depends on how people came in contact with this for the first time. It is somewhat natural for certain countries to have this perspective when the record was released with only music present in the film, was advertised as such and was linked closely to the film release. I think it's more visible with AHDN. Certain songs on Help! were written for the movie at least to a certain extent. But the recording and inclusion of Yesterday and a couple of other tracks make the UK album stand on its own, and in my opinion quite independent from the movie. It is a reality that the construction of the batch of US albums up until Sgt Pepper was partially resulted from Capitol's insistent need to re-arrange the releases as they thought woulf get them more sales, from the technical angle of limiting the no. of tracks on an album to limit the royalties, the involvement of United Artists who owned distribution of just the music included in the films and had nothing to do with the band's idea of an album. This was made very clear once they had enough leverage to force Capitol to release what they wanted the way they wanted.
Accurate. But not simply a cash grab, it was also forced by the movie release rights for the US. Although anyway, it would be a couple more years until The Beatles had enough pull to force proper album releases in the US. The UK Help was largely seen as their 5th studio album, with some of the songs being in the movie as well.
My ranking:
Stereo:
1) German A-2/B-3
2) Dutch 2-Y/1-Y
3) UK -4/-4
4) UK -1/-1
5) MFSL
6) 2009 CD
7) 1987 CD
Mono:
1) 2014 Vinyl
2) 2009 CD
3) UK -1/-1
I can’t really mix in the mono with stereo. They’re different animals so I have to compare them separately.
Indeed, too bad since 2014 Apple did not get the memo that people really would have bought Mono pressings if they re issued them.
Sory, this is soundtrack
,not album..😅
It's an album. The US Capitol made it a "soundtrack". In the UK was and still is considered an album.
The US one yes. The UK one - definitely not. Or at most partially as half of the songs were in the movie. Arguably the most iconic song on it is Yesterday and that had nothing to do with the movie.