Idk why nobody noticed it yet but you can also grab while Android 19/20 attempts to grab you. It will cause a Power Impact which effectively stops the grab. Sometimes you're lucky and just grab them regularly. It's easier than countering the grab
@@Prestiginii depends. While the opponent is low on Ki you can risk not using yours. But even if you loose it, the grab is stopped for now. If he immediately tries it again, it's easier to time the block. Don't quote me on that but I think super counters can counter their grab too after losing the impact. I know they're "wasteful" but they give you Ki (if successful), which many players haven't noticed as well
Im gonna make a youtube short of stuff I missed in this video in the coming days. Stay tuned for it!/sorry for my mic i suck with learning the settings :/
for instant sparking you can cancel it when an enemy does it by Ki blasting them sometimes you will cancel it before they activate it fully (which wont take their skill guage), but if you time it correctly you will make them waste the bar for no instant spark
Spammers are free. Why are you leaving because of that? What do you people find difficult about a spammer? They're absolutely terrible players and so easy to beat because they dont know the rest of the game mechanics. However, judging by your comment, you also have no idea how to play the game lol
@vChesterr are you capable of reading English, or are you struggling to learn it still? I'll rephrase my original comment to make it easier for you to comprehend. Spammers are so bad at the game that the effort used to win the fights against them has made them a "free" win. Spammers have such a low level of skill and lack basic knowledge of the game that they can be easily beaten by someone who has at least finished the tutorial. Simply moving to the left or right while guarding will automatically deflect all of the ki blasts that someone can throw at you. Spamming super moves will leave someone extremely open for counter attacks, and spamming ultimates leaves them even more vulnerable. If a person is struggling to deal with such low skill "strategies," then it would be hard to argue that either player has the slightest hint of competence or understanding. Even at the most basic level.
@@93rwolf You sound so retarded it’s actually unbelievable 🤦🏻♂️, This game encourages cheesing and spamming method, to get an easy win. You say they’re low-skill players, but if that’s true, how are they getting to Z Rank and winning tournament qualifiers ? Even top players like "GBG"ranked 5th worldwide, lose countless time because of cheesers. You can’t dodge or vanish every time, especially with input delay, and one ultimate can wipe out an 3 health bar. So yeah, we might be more skilled mechanically, but the game makes it way too easy for cheese tactics to win. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
You missed a very important counter to instant sparking, for those wondering instant sparking only works if you knock your opp off, so to prevent being knocked off from an interaction, make sure you have skill points urself and use revenge counter, this move is very underrated and itll keep the interaction preventing your opp from using instant sparking
@@rikiponcho this isn’t a bad way to deal with it but if your opponent is good they can just run away still and you wasted your skill points. Remember counter also is very inconsistent and glitches out frequently.
its not wasting your skill points to keep the interaction going, it is used to prevent being knocked away and letting your opp do whatever they want, this is far more valuable than having to deal with instant sparking
also if you use revenge counter in a vanish war for example the opp can only do 3 things: block, get hit by it or super perception which uses 2 skill points
@@rikiponchoyep thats the only real counter I know of has its uses but a smart player will use that to there advantage like baiting out that revenge counter so they can perception it
Btw that knock down tech isn't tight timing at all imo i just press down on right anolog plus block does a quick recovery from that and it can be spammed as well
I agree with this! I’m gonna drop a rant soon. and at the end of the day you’ll know if you’re a better player than someone or not regardless of the cheese.
There is no "might not work". There is not a single example of "cheese" that i have seen on youtube or in game that was difficult in any way. Every cheese has multiple hard counters to them and if you are struggling against any of them then you are terrible at the game.
Can you help me understand the concept of vanishing a beam? The wild sense cheese works on me because for the life of me it feels like vanish just does not work. I try my best to time it and I can win vanish battles fine but vanishing a beam or rush feels impossible
Yeah after rewatching this video I gotta make a follow up or something because I could of went into depth on some more things and I missed some topics. I really want to show people how to deal with cheese and show anything else to my best ability! Stay tuned!
its lowkey the same as insta spark though im sure ppl will know if they use a char with that move after watching my video. GOOD comment though I should of mentioned it
Okay. Great guide. Now make me one about all these same things only with daima goku. I am trying to figure it out but I also need help from people stronger and no one strong seems to want to try. As daima goku you are just missing your entire ki blast toolkit. So what now modern man? How you gonna counter after image when ALL of your attacks are physical? It's not impossible and there are things you can do but its WAY harder lol
You and I probably both know that the only way you’ll counter that is by going into sparking mode/ running away sadly :( if you have ps5 and want you can add me and we can try to see if there’s any other way to deal with those cheeses as daima.
@@Prestiginii That sucks and I don't want to take that route of sparking and running. There has to be SOME way. It's just outside reach of my skill right now. Then again I might just be really naive and faithful for nothin. It's why I'm reaching out to people strong like you to see. And if you stream Id love to stop by and check some stuff out sometimes (Yeah im on ps5)
@@Sanjiluv im gonna start streaming again! i did for a week but I wanted to take some time to learn how to make some vids (as you can see). Once I balance this out more I plan on streaming this game and more weekly!
@@Prestiginiiplaying with abilities on, and over using Roshi lightning attack, or buutenks/Gotenks galactic donuts attack since one of the abilities only needs half ki. Or using giant dash move all game. That is cheese. But using a characters skill isn’t spam like AIS, or instant spark isn’t cheese. All yall YT’s are crying over meta/ “cheese”, Y’all just mad cuz it works.
@@Prestiginiiand I know what you’re gonna say next “throwing ultimates, using characters skill isn’t fun or skill”, bro idgaf if yall are not having fun. You want fun? Go play with ya friends.
i love how backshots just became the term as soon as this game dropped 😂
That’s because it was called that back in the day on older fighting games it’s not unique to sparking zero
@ true i never knew, only went straight from bt3 to sparking zero
Gary right
Idk why nobody noticed it yet but you can also grab while Android 19/20 attempts to grab you. It will cause a Power Impact which effectively stops the grab. Sometimes you're lucky and just grab them regularly. It's easier than countering the grab
@@MrVecheater another one I highkey forgot to mention. It does cost ALOT of ki though
@@Prestiginii depends. While the opponent is low on Ki you can risk not using yours. But even if you loose it, the grab is stopped for now. If he immediately tries it again, it's easier to time the block.
Don't quote me on that but I think super counters can counter their grab too after losing the impact. I know they're "wasteful" but they give you Ki (if successful), which many players haven't noticed as well
IM NOW AN S RANKER CUZ OF YOUR GUIDE
@@TNACHIEFFANETO sleeeeep
Simple and Clean background music FTW!
Always gonna show Kingdom Hearts love!
buzzing in my ear and vibrating my phone and shit
@@GreyDoggyBone my mic?
Im gonna make a youtube short of stuff I missed in this video in the coming days. Stay tuned for it!/sorry for my mic i suck with learning the settings :/
I had someone call me a perception spammer, I was like what, it’s literally apart of the tutorial
You probably hold that shit the whole match😭
@@KevoUnlimited lol I only learnt it from others using it against me, if you can't beat em, join em 🤷♂
@@Step-zi1pu u play on PC?? Let’s run some matches bro
@@KevoUnlimited Nawl im on ps5
i had someone call me that and now he hate watches me and i just delete his comments. You know who you are :)
for instant sparking you can cancel it when an enemy does it by Ki blasting them
sometimes you will cancel it before they activate it fully (which wont take their skill guage), but if you time it correctly you will make them waste the bar for no instant spark
Another thing I missed!
You said at the end "don't rage quit" bro as soon as the guy spam I'm out 😂
Lowkey can’t get mad at you
Spammers are free. Why are you leaving because of that? What do you people find difficult about a spammer? They're absolutely terrible players and so easy to beat because they dont know the rest of the game mechanics. However, judging by your comment, you also have no idea how to play the game lol
@93rwolf the way you defend the spammers you must be one of them too, no wonder you're pissed lol
@vChesterr are you capable of reading English, or are you struggling to learn it still? I'll rephrase my original comment to make it easier for you to comprehend.
Spammers are so bad at the game that the effort used to win the fights against them has made them a "free" win.
Spammers have such a low level of skill and lack basic knowledge of the game that they can be easily beaten by someone who has at least finished the tutorial.
Simply moving to the left or right while guarding will automatically deflect all of the ki blasts that someone can throw at you. Spamming super moves will leave someone extremely open for counter attacks, and spamming ultimates leaves them even more vulnerable.
If a person is struggling to deal with such low skill "strategies," then it would be hard to argue that either player has the slightest hint of competence or understanding. Even at the most basic level.
@@93rwolf You sound so retarded it’s actually unbelievable 🤦🏻♂️,
This game encourages cheesing and spamming method, to get an easy win. You say they’re low-skill players, but if that’s true, how are they getting to Z Rank and winning tournament qualifiers ? Even top players like "GBG"ranked 5th worldwide, lose countless time because of cheesers.
You can’t dodge or vanish every time, especially with input delay, and one ultimate can wipe out an 3 health bar. So yeah, we might be more skilled mechanically, but the game makes it way too easy for cheese tactics to win. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
With stopping insta spark use someone with solar flare as it stops ki charge and insta spark and rush rush rush just do it smartly
I lowkey do this with Insta transmission
You missed a very important counter to instant sparking, for those wondering instant sparking only works if you knock your opp off, so to prevent being knocked off from an interaction, make sure you have skill points urself and use revenge counter, this move is very underrated and itll keep the interaction preventing your opp from using instant sparking
also to counter instant sparking broly u need a 7 dp character
@@rikiponcho this isn’t a bad way to deal with it but if your opponent is good they can just run away still and you wasted your skill points. Remember counter also is very inconsistent and glitches out frequently.
its not wasting your skill points to keep the interaction going, it is used to prevent being knocked away and letting your opp do whatever they want, this is far more valuable than having to deal with instant sparking
also if you use revenge counter in a vanish war for example the opp can only do 3 things: block, get hit by it or super perception which uses 2 skill points
@@rikiponchoyep thats the only real counter I know of has its uses but a smart player will use that to there advantage like baiting out that revenge counter so they can perception it
good video brother! thanks for the tips
always! more to come!
Also if you didn't know when they're using perception if you use your special rush attack if you have one it'll hit everytime just about
I do this when they rush up close and I’m already perceptioning lol
Excellent advise mate.
u gotta keep grinding bro u next up
Thanks bro this hella motivating seeing these comments 😭
Just..keep...going.
Quality content. Not annoying.....and informative.
Consistency is key, you got it!
Btw that knock down tech isn't tight timing at all imo i just press down on right anolog plus block does a quick recovery from that and it can be spammed as well
It’s annoying sometimes that all I know LOL
I Rock With that TT2 Music
tekken has so many gems
yeah you will work your ass off just to get around the cheese and might not work just for them to rage quit at the end.
Yes
haha exactly, you lock in, change your playstyle to get not cheesed and then the disconnects :D
You just have to start mentally considering that a win. The numbers aren’t as important as your feeling of improvement.
I agree with this! I’m gonna drop a rant soon. and at the end of the day you’ll know if you’re a better player than someone or not regardless of the cheese.
There is no "might not work". There is not a single example of "cheese" that i have seen on youtube or in game that was difficult in any way. Every cheese has multiple hard counters to them and if you are struggling against any of them then you are terrible at the game.
What was that Sanctuary remix that was playing halfway through
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My child hood LOL
@@Prestiginii Thank you big dawg.
OMG PRESTIGINI YOU’RE SO GODLY🥴
What about the android cheese from the France qualifiers?
Ima make a part 2 to the guide after patch!
Goated video
goated support
Aye bro how do you z counter z burst dashes? Nobody had a video on that
Luck and good timing lol. That’s why there ain’t a video 💀
@ lol you make it!
📝Class in Session.
Take notes! Next class is very soon.
Can you help me understand the concept of vanishing a beam?
The wild sense cheese works on me because for the life of me it feels like vanish just does not work. I try my best to time it and I can win vanish battles fine but vanishing a beam or rush feels impossible
Yeah after rewatching this video I gotta make a follow up or something because I could of went into depth on some more things and I missed some topics. I really want to show people how to deal with cheese and show anything else to my best ability! Stay tuned!
@ thanks I appreciate it
I peep the sanctuary sample in this video 😂 it’s so fire bro
@@areyenxcollins yessir killing spree went crazy on the remix!
thanks for the info
@@GreyDoggyBone more to come!
nice tips tho. but wasnt it pressing down on hardknock? upwards is the thing where you close to the ground and then you dash to your enemy right back.
I believe it works both ways! I just usually spam flick up until it works
Just press down on analog plus block button that recovers instantly no strict timing required
I believe it's right anolog down plus block to be specific
great video dude thx
Thanks for the support!
Bro didnt say how full power the 2 skill point skill hard counter after image strike rip. You can ki blast spam them til they actually play the game.
its lowkey the same as insta spark though im sure ppl will know if they use a char with that move after watching my video. GOOD comment though I should of mentioned it
What about trunks ki blast + sword slah
Noted for next guide.
Ascend up and down, its unblockable and fast as hell
Counter cheese with cheese lol
Sometimes that’s what you gotta do sadly :/
All of this would be useful if the game was functional and didn't ignore half of the inputs you put in 😂
the combo dropping always gets to me
Okay. Great guide. Now make me one about all these same things only with daima goku. I am trying to figure it out but I also need help from people stronger and no one strong seems to want to try.
As daima goku you are just missing your entire ki blast toolkit. So what now modern man? How you gonna counter after image when ALL of your attacks are physical? It's not impossible and there are things you can do but its WAY harder lol
You and I probably both know that the only way you’ll counter that is by going into sparking mode/ running away sadly :( if you have ps5 and want you can add me and we can try to see if there’s any other way to deal with those cheeses as daima.
@@Prestiginii That sucks and I don't want to take that route of sparking and running. There has to be SOME way. It's just outside reach of my skill right now. Then again I might just be really naive and faithful for nothin. It's why I'm reaching out to people strong like you to see. And if you stream Id love to stop by and check some stuff out sometimes (Yeah im on ps5)
@@Sanjiluv im gonna start streaming again! i did for a week but I wanted to take some time to learn how to make some vids (as you can see). Once I balance this out more I plan on streaming this game and more weekly!
Stop telling
😂 what is cheese?
@@Johnnylovely8 a very salty food
turn down yo mic gain damn
@@doodoohead8401 dawg this one of my first videos
You forgot the most effective one. Not playing the game and letting it die
cope
Skill issue buddy
You sound like a goofy
So if I use it, even just once, AIS is cheese? So ima not supposed to use the skills? Just box only, GTFOH 😂
@@CloutGod_504 just don’t use an AIS lol if you do don’t get mad when you get sparking spammed
@@CloutGod_504 I smell cope tbh 😂
@ that’s fair, but just because someone uses small things like that doesn’t mean it’s spam, in my opinion
@@Prestiginii smell cope, meaning?
Everything ain’t cheese, yall just are SOFT
@@CloutGod_504 define cheese in video game terms
@@Prestiginiiplaying with abilities on, and over using Roshi lightning attack, or buutenks/Gotenks galactic donuts attack since one of the abilities only needs half ki. Or using giant dash move all game. That is cheese.
But using a characters skill isn’t spam like AIS, or instant spark isn’t cheese. All yall YT’s are crying over meta/ “cheese”, Y’all just mad cuz it works.
@@Prestiginiiand I know what you’re gonna say next “throwing ultimates, using characters skill isn’t fun or skill”, bro idgaf if yall are not having fun. You want fun? Go play with ya friends.
@@CloutGod_504 lol
Imagine caring about PVP in a game that's meant to be casual fun.
Wanting to get good at a fun game is crazy ain’t it?