There's a whole lot of nuance I'm brushing over, and also there's nothing wrong with "videography" I still do it and it pays the bills sometimes, but there's always a push to get to the next level where you're looked to for your point of view, your voice that I aspire to.
Oof... "It's just a collection of technical details"... Man THAT... is a statement. I feel so challenged by that. So small... But at the same time in the centre of my foetal position... There's a spark of hope whispering to me...
Jean Luc Godard might disagree with you. Btw, "videographer" is just a dirty word lol. Not only is it the lowest of the low of anyone who holds a camera, they definitely dont see a project through. A director needs to be able to adapt. Commercial directing is the most managerial of all directing roles in my experience. Interesting rant. Kudos for putting your self out there. And for anyone actually reading this comment, dont expect your 3am brainstorm-wakeups to stop even if you over plan, that shits happens, its part of the creative process. Quite literally called the "ah-ha moment" which follows the "incubation." So Jesse, you're doing it all perfectly, you're no imposter. Keep it up.
Same could be said of still photographers. Technical proficiency makes one a craftsman. But having a vision and the means to illustrate it, makes one a creative. You deserve SO many more subs!
I’m so glad you have this perspective, and wonderful assessment. Couldn’t agree more. My only messy problem is when videographers sometimes have a rough idea or concept before shooting, but for functionality, efficiency rather than to tell a story or create the piece even for a client.
Or something they know that works to get the job done reliably... all good thoughts. Maybe a director's job is to get what they see even if it's more complicated and more work, although great videographers still are always pushing what they want to do for their clients. Thanks for watching Jeremiah!
@@jessesenko yea I can agree on that too. I think (and this is more the Creative or Artist type side of Directing) is the need to have the story or what the end product be through your vision intentionally in some way or another. Though we’d all love for it to be completely or mainly our vision of the project or film, with collaboration and the people needing the video or paying for it haha does take away at times, but we’ll still try to make our version of it rather than only through a formulaic process.
love this. a humbling realization and necessary distinction. vision has always been a struggle for me. I know it when I see it but getting the finished product in pre is a challenge.
I struggle with it every time. It’s another layer of work that most people won’t do, but it’s just the beginning of a whole new level... moving into a new league.
Don't know if this helps, Jesse, but I love "Bookworm" and "Home Position" so much that I'm constantly sharing them in RUclips comments and on Reddit. I rewatch them a couple of times a month because they are so satisfying as stand-alone works of art. Please don't ever stop making short films!
The projects I tend to enjoy are the ones where I have planned it out, and do have a vision. Finding it in the edit is usually quite painful. But then, one project I was (and still am) proud of was made very much on the spot guerrilla style. But I had all the story beats down and had a shot list, even though there was no script. So even though my plan wasn't 100%, the vision was still there, and I think that is what made the difference. I think there is a place for finding it on set, but only as a means of allowing room for serendipity, not as an excuse for not planning or not having a vision.
Thanks, Chris. That’s how I phrase it to clients if it’s something doc-style or less planned than an narrative piece. I make a shot list that tells our story and aim to “get these shots, or something like them”
I agree with the POV perspective. And POV, in my opinion, isn't the same as just spending the time planning out the idea and concept. It's not just what you can say, but what you want to say. Decisions on every part of the process that only you could make. Over the last few years of working in the industry in different assistant positions (camera, production, editing), when I've made stuff for myself, even if planned out technically, they didn't feel as good as the stuff I made BEFORE I started working professionally. And I think it's because before the ideas I had were my own and I didn't care so much about being technically "perfect." There was a perspective, a POV. Now, I focus too much on the technical and "getting everything right," that I don't even ask myself if this is something that I truly want to make/care about making. So, now I'm trying to get back to that mindset. To me, being a director means creating something in a way that only you can create. Hoping to come up with some new ideas, make new work and one day call myself a director.
It’s all about getting back to the idea so that technical decisions serve that idea. Well-planned technical decisions are just slick video. Thanks for sharing, Erik, and hope you make something great soon!
Intentionality. It's what separates art from doodles. Sure, a doodler may make good stuff from time to time, but it's the intentionality that elevates.
keep it up. stumbled across your channel from the synth case build (i also have no real musical experience), but your videos are quality. don't stop sharing your stories on this platform, thanks!
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There's a whole lot of nuance I'm brushing over, and also there's nothing wrong with "videography" I still do it and it pays the bills sometimes, but there's always a push to get to the next level where you're looked to for your point of view, your voice that I aspire to.
Oof... "It's just a collection of technical details"... Man THAT... is a statement. I feel so challenged by that. So small... But at the same time in the centre of my foetal position... There's a spark of hope whispering to me...
Haha yeah. It just reminds me to pull my head out of the gear and answer the “why” which is why anyone would want to watch. Thanks for watching!
Jean Luc Godard might disagree with you. Btw, "videographer" is just a dirty word lol. Not only is it the lowest of the low of anyone who holds a camera, they definitely dont see a project through. A director needs to be able to adapt. Commercial directing is the most managerial of all directing roles in my experience. Interesting rant. Kudos for putting your self out there. And for anyone actually reading this comment, dont expect your 3am brainstorm-wakeups to stop even if you over plan, that shits happens, its part of the creative process. Quite literally called the "ah-ha moment" which follows the "incubation." So Jesse, you're doing it all perfectly, you're no imposter. Keep it up.
Thanks Ryan! I find that the stuff I used to wake up for at 3am was super basic in hindsight. It doesn’t stop, but the quality just keeps leveling-up
Same could be said of still photographers. Technical proficiency makes one a craftsman. But having a vision and the means to illustrate it, makes one a creative. You deserve SO many more subs!
Thanks JK! I often tell photographers to be less passive, sure, be ready for the moment, but also make the moment happen yourself!
I’m so glad you have this perspective, and wonderful assessment. Couldn’t agree more. My only messy problem is when videographers sometimes have a rough idea or concept before shooting, but for functionality, efficiency rather than to tell a story or create the piece even for a client.
Or something they know that works to get the job done reliably... all good thoughts. Maybe a director's job is to get what they see even if it's more complicated and more work, although great videographers still are always pushing what they want to do for their clients. Thanks for watching Jeremiah!
@@jessesenko yea I can agree on that too. I think (and this is more the Creative or Artist type side of Directing) is the need to have the story or what the end product be through your vision intentionally in some way or another. Though we’d all love for it to be completely or mainly our vision of the project or film, with collaboration and the people needing the video or paying for it haha does take away at times, but we’ll still try to make our version of it rather than only through a formulaic process.
love this. a humbling realization and necessary distinction. vision has always been a struggle for me. I know it when I see it but getting the finished product in pre is a challenge.
I struggle with it every time. It’s another layer of work that most people won’t do, but it’s just the beginning of a whole new level... moving into a new league.
Don't know if this helps, Jesse, but I love "Bookworm" and "Home Position" so much that I'm constantly sharing them in RUclips comments and on Reddit. I rewatch them a couple of times a month because they are so satisfying as stand-alone works of art. Please don't ever stop making short films!
I won't! I have 3 scripted and ready to go!
@@jessesenko Yay!
The projects I tend to enjoy are the ones where I have planned it out, and do have a vision. Finding it in the edit is usually quite painful. But then, one project I was (and still am) proud of was made very much on the spot guerrilla style. But I had all the story beats down and had a shot list, even though there was no script. So even though my plan wasn't 100%, the vision was still there, and I think that is what made the difference. I think there is a place for finding it on set, but only as a means of allowing room for serendipity, not as an excuse for not planning or not having a vision.
Thanks, Chris. That’s how I phrase it to clients if it’s something doc-style or less planned than an narrative piece. I make a shot list that tells our story and aim to “get these shots, or something like them”
I agree with the POV perspective. And POV, in my opinion, isn't the same as just spending the time planning out the idea and concept. It's not just what you can say, but what you want to say. Decisions on every part of the process that only you could make. Over the last few years of working in the industry in different assistant positions (camera, production, editing), when I've made stuff for myself, even if planned out technically, they didn't feel as good as the stuff I made BEFORE I started working professionally. And I think it's because before the ideas I had were my own and I didn't care so much about being technically "perfect." There was a perspective, a POV. Now, I focus too much on the technical and "getting everything right," that I don't even ask myself if this is something that I truly want to make/care about making. So, now I'm trying to get back to that mindset. To me, being a director means creating something in a way that only you can create. Hoping to come up with some new ideas, make new work and one day call myself a director.
It’s all about getting back to the idea so that technical decisions serve that idea. Well-planned technical decisions are just slick video. Thanks for sharing, Erik, and hope you make something great soon!
Intentionality. It's what separates art from doodles. Sure, a doodler may make good stuff from time to time, but it's the intentionality that elevates.
Well put!
keep it up. stumbled across your channel from the synth case build (i also have no real musical experience), but your videos are quality. don't stop sharing your stories on this platform, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words. Uploading tomorrow, but the video after that will be some modifications to my synth case!