Why Are West Coast Ports Suffering From Congestion?
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- John Martin, president of Martin Associates, explains the factors behind persistent cargo congestion at West Coast ports, and the “cumulative collapse” of the nation’s entire logistics supply chain.
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The Chinese are calling the shots unfortunately. If we made stuff here there wouldn't be this problem.
The Chinese have nothing to do with this the stage was set years ago for such time as this. America must fall that’s their main goal this is a plan starvation.
@@juniorhector9582 Sacrifice zones in America just like in the Eastern European zone so many lost manufacturing jobs. A Federal Reserve bankrupted industry after industry through Fed Open Market Operations which are Fed Funds rates that determine private cost + interest rates on Corporate bonds. It's all about elimination of Non approved corporations no matter the cost. They have so many countries hooked on the idea of destroying the old families trying to make this place work for a Build Back Better NAZI/Fascist system of their making.
@Arjee other problems would occur if we bring back the factories. for example, the costs of goods will increase and it will make the inflation even worse. we, as the consumers will pick up the bills. it has been so easy to blame others for our own problems. Comparing to the efficiencies of lots of Chinese fully automated ports, our ports are just too old.
My husband is a truck driver and I am in the process of getting my CDL so we can do team driving. When he goes to the rail yard he as well as other drivers with his company have to sit there sometimes 6 plus hours before he gets his container and can leave. There has been times his container was ready but there was no chaises. There are so many trucks (over 30 however only so many are allowed in at a time so some have to go wait elsewhere) lined up waiting for these containers some days it’s ridiculous. This has been going on since before the beginning of the year. Driver don’t like going to the rail yards due to the wait time for a container. They also have to go through paperwork for clearance to pickup and some say it isn’t worth the hassle and time wasted just sitting there all day for a container. You can’t make money sitting idle.
Sounds like more organization needs to be done.
As a truck driver myself we know it’s not driver shortages this was well plan in advanced there’re plenty of stuck drivers out there.
@@juniorhector9582 I agree
Californian laws about age of Trucks / Engines / Owner Operators are causing a backlog of containers.
Emissions are more important than the immediate economy..?
Exactly!
Yeah, let’s be like Mexico or Africa, where anything with wheels can crawl down any street belching black smoke, breaking down in intersections, and crashing through mechanical failure…. Let’s scrap all standards, regulations, and laws… go back to the good ol’ days of clubbing your neighbours with rocks, and taking there stuff!
@@warrendourond7236 That's not what I was suggesting. It's not what anyone wants either. There's a happy medium between no laws and the laws being implemented. Sensible reasonable laws / rules are fine. Rules that are draconian and cause big issues and hardships are obviously not helpful.
There is also a shortage of chassis so drayage gets backed up.
California has had the same laws for a long time, it's not logical to conclude that that is what is causing this now.
@@whatabouttheearth yeah nah… these people will always find a way to blame Hippies and Environmentalists and BLM… nothing is about facts and truth, it’s just about go team red or go team blue!
Well maybe in 2021 if drivers weren’t being paid the same amount of money as they were in 1981 there would be more of us to move these containers. 🤷🏻♀️
It's the same with construction. In 1980 I made $12 an hour easily. By 2015 the wages had been reduced to $8.
@@victorwitness7414 I’ve never seen construction wages that low in NJ.. not even for the laborers
Yep, just like labor shortages in all sectors that could be resolved or at least improved with simply paying higher wages.
New crypto wealth earned by some of the low pay labor force probably plays a part too.
You can thank every politician who voted for deregulations over the years Yes they cut cost, at your expense not the owners.
@@168tsai8 Serously suspect most are not into Crypto.
Yikes ..
For once, an expert is exactly correct. I work on a port, and I can tell you the problem is with chassis. Chassis are staying out at warehouses for months because they don’t have the labor at the warehouses to unload these containers in a timely fashion. Drivers are waiting, without pay in most cases, for chassis to return to the chassis depots to go get another load from the port. We are losing drivers at a great rate because they can’t afford to set without pay for hours on end waiting for a chassis. Things are going to get much worse because each hour the problem is compounding. This, I think, is a result of the unemployment rates being increased beyond what warehousing jobs pay, incentivizing people to stay home rather than to take a pay cut. Just my 2 cents.
Hey dude, which port do you work at? Long Beach? Would love to pick your brain more on the chassis situation and pool of pools.
BTW I agree with the take on labor. Our HR has had posting out for months but the resumes/applications just aren't coming in. Why bust a$$ for 10 dollars when you can get 8 dollars to stay home?
I couldn't agree with you more. The convience of E-commerce played a big part too.
@@keepleft , Indeed! Why work when you are paid 80% rate by sitting and watching TV at home!
Hmmm, sounds like an infrastructure issue?
Mostly spot on. Everyone is leaving out the fact that automated facilities, for the most part, can only hold half of the volume capacity or less than that of a conventional operation with ILWU labor.
The one terminal that can hold more volume, can’t put out the same TEU throughput than that of a conventional operation with ILWU labor.
Of the three automated terminals running, 2 of them can’t get half the throughput or volume! A complete failure and our economy is taking a hit while foreign companies experiment on getting rid of ILWU labor!
To your question on detention, demurrage and dwell times... they’ve all doubled!
If a ship took 3 days, they take 6 days now. Some are taking 8!
If it took 2-4 days to get a can out of a yard, it’s taking 6-8!
If a train took 2-3 days, they are taking 16 days! Automated facilities are doing even worse!
so is it fair to say that it is an ideological situation of corporations not wanting to deal with human labor and are willing to screw over the USA economy just avoid human labor?
Because that's what it sounds like to me.
Doesnt make sense that an automated terminal does *_LESS_* work than a manned terminal, if I am understanding what you are saying correctly.
@@willia3r because you never seen one inside have you bro? I know you haven't or you would understand.
I'm a trucker bro, and robot wear house is cool and all. But super organized for the robots to know where they are going. There is no stacking 3 stories high. Everything is on the floor very separated into nice blocks.
They move at a speed of "x" period.
Where as you can get 5 guys in fork lifts racing there ass off. Stacking stuff higher then allowed. Putting stuff in corners and walk ways and in the bathroom.
A robot can't find a pallet in the bathroom bro.
That is why man labor is better and more volume. Just not more efficient for the big man's pocket.
Yall can wait for your stuff I'm getting 6 robots for my wear house. And sit back and collect. Now that my labor is 2% I just need to pay Homer donuts and meth. So he can fix 🤖
Supply still there so I'm have a drink in a pineapple with an umbrella by the beach.
Muhahahahaha
@@rosegreene775 hey boss, I’m just asking to get some understanding, that’s simply it.
The sarcasm stuff ain’t necessary.
Great information, thank you
My friends working in warehouses in the LA/LB ports are working 50~60 hours a week.
People be leaving over that and pay?
If so, there's the epicenter of this nation wide dilemma.
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Wonderful task! this video is very valuable.
Very thoughtful, logical, and in-depth, and also with great behavior!
Very much appreciated
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What?
Excellent piece - As a longshoreman and veteran ive worked 7 days a week since August of 2020 to meet demand for labor - broken 113yr records month after month. Our union wont quit - covid or not we risked our lives to keep cargo flowing - we share equipment - we lost members - but will continue to get the job done for the American people. World class cargo volume even with the shortages.
Why did you lose members?
@@victorwitness7414 Covid spread
All because people need their Amazon prime...
@@The52car No, more like we don’t make anything in the US anymore. Not even Medicine!
Genius piece .
Like, you shipped factories and jobs over seas but left your market behind.
Based on this reasoning, my understanding is that the blame is being passed onto the railroads?!!! This is unacceptable!
No, it's us for outsourcing all the manufacturing of said goods
Why is street dwell time so high? Empty containers cannot be returned without appointment. So that chassis cannot be used to pickup a load. Exempt empties!
You’re saying that the problem is outside the gate and also at the warehouse?’
In container volume, US ports are hardly among the very top, only Los Angeles port is listed within the top 2O! And US had been leading the world in supply chain efficiency for so long that they take things for granted? So what happen?
Why Can't Places Such As Ebay & Amazon Slow Down The Time Of Sending Out Packages? People Would Get Use To Packages Taking A Lot Longer Than They Used To Being Shipped,People Would Have To Get Used To It This Way They Wouldn't Have Choice?????? THiNK ABOUT IT PEOPLE !!!!!!!! I Wouldn't Mind If One OF My Packages WAS SOME WHAT LATER GETTING TO ME THAN IT Does Now !!!!!!!!!
I don't get why they are all at Los Angeles or Long Beach ports. Are there not ports in San Francisco Bay,
Portland or Seattle that these ships could not sail north to? Or Vancouver, BC for that matter?
I imagine some of the issue is you need to coordinate trucks, rail, and warehousing at the port of offload. Also, that same infrastructure carries the containers to head back to Asia. Since ships carry cargo for a multitude of users, a change would probably equally horrendous to waiting your turn at these ports.
But that's just this lay man's assumption.
Well I don't understand the whole situation but from what I understand this is not isolated in California.. That it is more of a global issue for whatever reason
LA/LB handles 48% of national cargo and the backup is outside the ports - smaller ports would fare worse
@@TheFK8Life Its crazy so much goes through that one port complex.
California laws are the biggest impediment to moving anything in that state.
banning trucks based upon how much idle time they produce, or soot exhaust they produce, those are called Cost + opportunities to bankrupt a truck owner. Lucky for California they don't stop with regulating fuel, exhaust, or idle times on big trucks, they now come after displaced non unionized independent contractors so they may tax them for the state general fund instead of treating them as business owners.
If you go 24hrs at the Ports, you will need to hire and train more operators. PMA must do this..
If we are having to remove contents of a container and putting them in another approved container with chassis and then moving them out via trucking or train. Then why aren't the huge car manufactures start making these containers and chasis's to accumulate the demands. They are clearly not making new a iui automobiles as the plants are closing in most parts of the U.S A. I see a huge potential of growth and wealth not to mention the jobs created by this production. As we continue to make a lot more containers we can then sell them to other countries who export their goods to is in these already approved containers and bypass the need to transfer products to another since they are already in a container approved move out right away. I would think its like making a car anyways with assembly and wielding and putting together a chassis. And we have the technology to do this as it will put many americans back to work. Or am i not seeing the real problem or am blind sighted on something. Its just would i think to help the problem instead of making it worse.
So much for containerization when you are taking goods out of one container and putting them into another!
The building collaspe in Florida and the ships at anchor off California show what North America is dependent on.
Engineering and logistics. Unseen to the end user living in a building or shopping at Walmart or Home Depot.
"1.8 million TEUs per month"
Why not just drive the shipping container out into the desert near Barstow or San Bernardino, back it up to a domestic container, and transload the cargo directly without a warehouse? Also, shipping containers can be strapped to flatbed trailers when truckers run out of frames.
Those are possibilities, but the time it would take would make it pointless. Containers/chassis being of an intermodal nature makes the movement light speed by comparison. Without it, we might as well go back to shipping whole vans on the ships. It was archaic by comparison. The only viable solution is to somehow get the Labor back in the supply chain. The problem is that cost is gonna go way up. With costs already as high as many can stand, it looks like a collapse is coming. Hope not.
@@georgecavanaugh8757 Costs are already plenty high to hire additional and less efficient labor at the bottlenecks as a temporary substitute for infrastructure at those points. I think the real problem is oligopolistic refusal to raise pay to match costs.
You've never loaded a trailer/container before have you?
How do you move the goods from one to another? You need a forklift or at bare minimum a pallet jack. You also need the space to physically turn around.
@@The52car I've loaded trucks with pallet jacks a bunch of times, including with no room beyond the trucks, though my understanding is that most container cargo is not on pallets at all and must be unloaded by hand anyway.
@@georgecavanaugh8757 Because it is more efficient by train. Majority of containers in the last two months have been empty. Business is slowing down. China, our #1 trading partner has shut down their ports for weeks at a time. Australia and the EU are in the same vote.
So in plain english: is it a shotage of truck drivers or train engineers that can't move product out to America or what????????????????????????
Its an excess of supply coming into the ports all at once. Stop blaming labor for everything. The system was not designed for hiccups and not it’s rearing it’s ugly head.
It's a lot of things snowballing together.
Just in time inventory is finally falling on its face,no longer do retailers have warehouses to hold inventory.Get it today sell it tomorrow.Go look in a store after the first snow for a sled,the next order will be here next fall.Aint it great to rely on another country for EVERYTHING you would like to buy!!!
If retired truck drivers like myself are to come out of retirement for the crisis, we will need more sleep that we used to need. and we didn't get enough sleep before, which is one of the reasons for early retirement. This goes double for night drivers who work while the road networks have extra capacity.
It's not accidental it's contrived
This is ridiculous. Send the ships to other ports. Like NY or New Orleans. Ports all around the United States.
No wants to drive a truck do to the prohibitively high cost of living on the road, industrial wide abuse, over regulation, DOT trying to fuck us at every turn. Not to mention the public can be straight up assholes to us on a minute by minute basis. We just want to make a paycheck and go home in one piece, but it all takes is one sociopath with road rage and we're behind bars begging for our freedom for the next 10 to 20 years. And people can't understand why the hell no one wants to do this fucking job.
Are ships queued up in first come, first served basis?
Gary it had been that way, but they sensibly changed it, a ship leaving a foreign port asks for berth time in LA Lb . That berth time (arrival time) might be weeks later It's about a two week voyage. m
I'm homeless right now around Orange County and been looking into the Port of Long Beach for possible employment.
The OC One Stop got the ability to get me job training. So I've been talking with my case manager about working there. Seems like a good place to get the pay to put a roof over my head.
So I've been looking for a true industry expert opinion on the situation with the logjam. Thanks! This was pretty informative.
If anybody works around there, what's really in demand? I need the money to make a living without a distant commute so -underpaid labor- I've not driven a car in years so -truck driving- otherwise I'm open game to work hard all day.
Atop the trans loading. Listen to truck drivers about fixes. There is no sriver shortage it's about pay detention flexability in hours of service rules parking and other things. As doe last mile. Some progress can be made..where you have remote drop stations or seop boxes as opposed to actual house or office deliveries, they can be serviced 24 hrs a day..
Market forces to achieve an efficient and balanced economic flow is the best option.
Why are the ports of California clogged, simple. NANCY PELOSI.
Would this issue cause massive inflation due to a clogged commodities supply? Or will we see prices collapse? 🤔
It would cause inflation in the long run
Supply and demand. When people don't have something you get to charge more for what little there is.
Truckers paid by delivery instead of by the hour can't wait for days on end for a load, especially if their trucks are leased as they stand to lose all their down payments already invested in their trucks. Won't see THEM anywhere near the ports.
Have a very Merry Empty box Christmas especially in California.😬
Because that's what the administration want to happen to turn up the screw
Tax BOZO to provide the fluidity ....
If we do not harvest the oil off our shores, other nations will out in international waters.
Re mystery ships, I cannot help, but there are those who track such things
Fuck gam€ over
Might aswell hit Alabama and other southern states
Why are west coast port suffering by congestion? Because the ports have a cold.
So.. we need more rail transport, trucks and truck drivers and more workers....?
No, much of what the media is getting out there is misleading (completely opposite of what they are telling you).
Sounds like the MARITIME law is failing.....
Ask a question then .. frick
Gosh. He didn't blame Biden, California laws, workers unions or Obama for the supply chain problem. What's wrong with him?
Pelosi, pelosi, pelosi.
Are there undeveloped locations suitable for new sea ports?
its not a port issue - trucker/ warehouse/ inland rail yard capacity issue
Boring Company please dig tunnels for transporting cargo containers please!!! #BoringCompany #ElonMusk
I have a pickup and a trailer and willing to haul freight . Give me work
If your truck and trailer can't hold at least a 20FT container, you're not really relevant.
Unless you can find a loading dock and repack it all yourself.
@@The52car im more about solutions, not complaining . neither you or i will be happy this winter when store shelves are empty
Fifteen minutes of "It's not our fault." Bull 💩 Do away with the appointment system and keep those lines moving. THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF TRUCKERS and I'm sure they're are plenty of part time longshoremen willing to pick up hours! #dobetter
This is self-inflicted by the ‘Brandon Administration’. Labourers are not going back to work. Why would they? Pay is very good for staying home.
Not sure his info is trustworthy
answer, stop buying crap from overseas. stay off of Amazon.
Bingo.
DNC involvement Imo
GROUND PROPERTY, CHINA OWNS
No they dont - its port property they lease
Try upgrading infrastructure
Trojan horse
Dumb.. da da da dumb
This explanation is BS and full of buzz words the regular person can’t understand. Containers don’t need a warehouse, they can set on the ground anywhere. Looks like he was hired by the ports and longshoreman to use buzz words to shift the blame. Who cares about the empty, when you aren’t getting paid for delivery of the full one?
Okay, but then you need equipment (and operators) to unload containers at a logistics warehouse. Something they don't already have.
Okay, but then you need equipment (and operators, and space) to unload containers at a logistics warehouse. Something they don't already have.
Uhhhh....in English please.
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Hire contract workers to foreign countries hire managers who are knowledgeable and have common sense
Do these containers actually have anything in them? I think China has cut us off.
81 million totally legitimate votes.
That's why.
Try investing in infrastructure rather than war with China leave socialist countries alone
lolwut
Stop voting blue
Ok start building better railways then
@@qjtvaddict coming from commieforna