I feel like surplus is definitely underappreciated. Our ability uptime is pretty crazy and surplus can make the crappiest feeling gun feel amaaaaaazing. I love it on the servant leader. Makes that thing in to a laser .
only reason i'd run rewind/shoot to loot on this weapon is because I run thread of ascent which reloads my weapon and gives me a substantial handling/reload buff.
Surplus ESPECIALLY on weapons with trash Handling &/Or Reload is stupid good! When I was trying to get Deepsight Frames for Imperial Decree I had a Surplus x Opening Shot one. Using Strand Hunter with Sixth Coyote it's literally Max Handling pretty much at all times!
I cant wait to have all of these crafted. Already have Abyss Defiant done and the Origin Trait on these are easily the best in the game. Pairs so well with Banner of War, Bonk Hammer, Thunderclap, or even Offensive Bulwark on Titan.
I need two more red borders to craft mine! Have a great random roll already with Rapid Hit and Golden Tricorn. It's nuts. The synergy with the Verity's Brow Grapple build is amazing. I use different fragments and aspects than you though. Instead of Weaver's Call I use the Wanderer. It's great after the buffs and gives you easy access to Suspend. It also allows you to traverse insane distances quickly by grappling to your thrown Tangle. I also use Thread of Propagation to give my Strand weapons unraveling rounds. This means one grapple melee gives my Fang of Ir Yut a 65% damage boost (including a single surge mod), unraveling rounds and Cursed Thrall Explosions. I use a single Hands-On mod on the helmet combined with two Strand Siphons for fast supers and loads of orbs. Heavy Handed, Recuperation, Better Already and Woven Mail keep me alive after using my Grapple Melee. Impact Induction grants me a nice chunk of grenady energy back as well. This is one of the most fun builds in the entire game. Everything weaves into eachother (see what I did there?) and any low to mid level content gets absolutely destroyed.
Fun little thing, the Weaver’s Trance detonations count as grenade kills, so if you run Verity’s it increases their damage with every kill and if it gets a kill, it procs golden tricorn x2.
Ehroar comes back like hey guys what’s up…… WTF!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 brother where have u been!!! We are ALL VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BACK!!!! Ur gonna kill it!! Let’s GO!!!!!!
I gotta get me one of these! Brya's Love is working great with my Void Builds, Precision Instrument is no joke! Slap on a Major Spec & it puts in work! I can only imagine how crazy it would feel on a 260rpm! Especially with a lot of Stability!
got rewind rounds + golden tricorn out of my week 1 red border chest. This thing is so good, the synergy between the origin trait, strand melees in general and golden tricorn is amazing
Havent gotten to run crota yet but looking at the weapons this is the main one i want for my strand hunter build, would pair really nicely seeing as i could grapple punch or throw the regular melee to proc the origin trait and since im using foe tracer it also get free damage buff as im using abilities or throwing tangles
I got rewind and precision instrument which just synergies kind of well. Keep hitting crits and instead of reloading, rewind hits and keep doing 25% more damage
I think it’s more specifically against Warlocks. Everything else helps Titans and Hunters heavily on getting their class ability back to suspend. Warlocks have to go out of their way to get suspend. Grenade or Wanderer.
Osteo and necrotic grips and eating ur shackle nade for suspend bursts on kills says hi, oh and also warlocks suspend a 7m radius of enemies when they destroy a tangle now stop acting like they have no way to build into it@@chem2430
Does Verities effect the strand grapple melee? From the video it didn’t look like it. I ask because grapple melee used to proc the grenade orb generating mod on gloves.
Why is weavers call being and not the wanderer, seems to me like wanderer would provide more rather than just a few more threadlings when you’re already making a lot
@@attackmanatee02 Late response but I don't believe they would cause the explosions either as those would be ability produced rather than weapon (which is what would proc the explosions). The threadlings do however proc rebirth so the threadling from Hatchling can proc and spawn another threadling on kill.
i like the look of msot of the raid weapons crafted song of ir yut but think i went wrong with reconstruction target lock was initially between that or sword logic, now im thinking sword logic or bait and switch what would you craft? but great vids as always :) like your weapon reviews and build vids :)
Edit: I realized the original comment was talking about an LMG, but my comment below is about primaries. Things like Rufus in particular I see a lot of people who run reconstruction over rewind rounds and I just don't understand it. Is there a reason behind this? As I see it, rewind allows you to shoot past your standard mag size much longer because it reactivates after a reload. With reconstruction you have to stow the weapon to get the most benefit, but it's a primary. Am I missing something?
@@hankhill8973there is so much downtime in raids, strikes , gms where you’re just walking from place to place. reconstruction is working that whole time. or when you’re just using other weapons. reconstruction redirection trustee i always thought was great, just don’t even need to think while using it really
@@hankhill8973the main difference is rewind is active and recon is passive, it comes down (to me at least) how I'm gonna be using the gun. If I plan to have it out often and use it a lot, rewind. If I'm pulling it out infrequently or I'm using it in an ability heavy build, recon.
Off topic, but can anyone tell me how he's able to play matchmade content solo, and if there's a way to do it on console/PS5? I do remember time changing working years ago, but tried it recently and it doesn't seem to impact match-making
I just really wish they would either nerf kinetic damage or buff strand and stasis weapons back to deal the same as kinetic weapons because every time I see a strand or a stasis weapon I immediately lose interest in it because it does less damage, I use headstone weapons because they contribute enough to the build that it’s worth giving up the damage but a stasis sniper or shotgun is just a worse weapon just for having a burn
Honestly, the only time that loss of damage is going to matter is day one contest mode dps checks if you happen to be using a stasis shotgun/sniper in your rotation. Definitely not a reason to completely skip/ignore a weapon imo as given the current state of power and how easy it is to buff damage it'll be negligible.
@@jordanreavis8163 I grab everything that’s craftable because it doesn’t clutter up my vault, because of that craftable weapons are way more desirable to me than random rolls but I do really feel the 15% less damage when I use a weapon and I’m always grabbing weapons with the mindset of is this useful in a GM because in lower end content I can literally use anything and it’s even worse on snipers they are instantly dead on arrival if they are strand or stasis I can’t imagine anyone using headstone on a sniper to synergise with a build
@@jordanreavis8163True but why would you use something that's just worse? Seeing how we have surges now there's no reason for Strand and Stasis weapons to do less damage than Kinetics. Stasis especially since Stasis shields don't even exist. Strand Shields exist on a single enemy type Only found on Neomuna patrols so in 99% of other content the entire reason for a weapon to be Strand is useless.
You don’t get a lot of range on an AR compared to a scout, and if we’re talking scouts, Hung Jury doesn’t synergize with Strand while Fang of Ir Yut does.
I feel like surplus is definitely underappreciated. Our ability uptime is pretty crazy and surplus can make the crappiest feeling gun feel amaaaaaazing. I love it on the servant leader. Makes that thing in to a laser .
i run surplus on the dsc scout and i love it a ton
only reason i'd run rewind/shoot to loot on this weapon is because I run thread of ascent which reloads my weapon and gives me a substantial handling/reload buff.
Agreed its a very reliable perk with little to none effort
Works even better since strand has three melees base so even if you spend your class ability and grenade you still have max surplus.
Surplus ESPECIALLY on weapons with trash Handling &/Or Reload is stupid good!
When I was trying to get Deepsight Frames for Imperial Decree I had a Surplus x Opening Shot one. Using Strand Hunter with Sixth Coyote it's literally Max Handling pretty much at all times!
I cant wait to have all of these crafted. Already have Abyss Defiant done and the Origin Trait on these are easily the best in the game. Pairs so well with Banner of War, Bonk Hammer, Thunderclap, or even Offensive Bulwark on Titan.
I need two more red borders to craft mine! Have a great random roll already with Rapid Hit and Golden Tricorn. It's nuts.
The synergy with the Verity's Brow Grapple build is amazing. I use different fragments and aspects than you though. Instead of Weaver's Call I use the Wanderer. It's great after the buffs and gives you easy access to Suspend. It also allows you to traverse insane distances quickly by grappling to your thrown Tangle.
I also use Thread of Propagation to give my Strand weapons unraveling rounds. This means one grapple melee gives my Fang of Ir Yut a 65% damage boost (including a single surge mod), unraveling rounds and Cursed Thrall Explosions.
I use a single Hands-On mod on the helmet combined with two Strand Siphons for fast supers and loads of orbs. Heavy Handed, Recuperation, Better Already and Woven Mail keep me alive after using my Grapple Melee. Impact Induction grants me a nice chunk of grenady energy back as well.
This is one of the most fun builds in the entire game. Everything weaves into eachother (see what I did there?) and any low to mid level content gets absolutely destroyed.
Hey @Ehroar if you are looking for a scout with hatchling and Demo at the same time, the Ironbanner scout has that perk combo
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its also in the worst scout rifle archetype in the game so i dont know if its really worth farming
Mine dropped Rapid Hit and Hatchling, and I instantly thought it might go hard.
True but I already have taraxipos
@@gavinlambert2896260 + craftable
Ass
@@gavinlambert2896rapid hit is overall better than outlaw if u use it in endgame, in general game tho outlaw is better
Thinking and actually performing are 2 different things. What was the verdict?
i just really wish it had explosive payload i love that perk so much
Can confirm, that this scout is really good for clearing low light lost sectors
Classic.
That was one of my favorite scouts/weapons in D1. Congrats!
Fun little thing, the Weaver’s Trance detonations count as grenade kills, so if you run Verity’s it increases their damage with every kill and if it gets a kill, it procs golden tricorn x2.
Ehroar comes back like hey guys what’s up……
WTF!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 brother where have u been!!! We are ALL VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BACK!!!! Ur gonna kill it!! Let’s GO!!!!!!
The IB 150 scout can get Demo Hatchling. I'm excited to try out the one that dropped for me last night
I gotta get me one of these! Brya's Love is working great with my Void Builds, Precision Instrument is no joke! Slap on a Major Spec & it puts in work! I can only imagine how crazy it would feel on a 260rpm! Especially with a lot of Stability!
got rewind rounds + golden tricorn out of my week 1 red border chest. This thing is so good, the synergy between the origin trait, strand melees in general and golden tricorn is amazing
Rapid hit and Sword Logic hasn’t failed me yet 😎
Surplus is my personal goated perk. Totally transforms any gun it's on.
trash sorry
Just got this gun with Surplus / Sword Logic and holy shit surplus goes hard
@@refragged if you like that... it well worth getting the pattern and crafting a trustee with surplus and incandescent. You'll love it
Can you PLEASE DO THIS IN TOUGHER CONTENT??? Anything can look good in low tier content.
I’m glad golden TrICorn is finally getting some love
Havent gotten to run crota yet but looking at the weapons this is the main one i want for my strand hunter build, would pair really nicely seeing as i could grapple punch or throw the regular melee to proc the origin trait and since im using foe tracer it also get free damage buff as im using abilities or throwing tangles
I got rewind and precision instrument which just synergies kind of well. Keep hitting crits and instead of reloading, rewind hits and keep doing 25% more damage
Just crafted it with rewind/hatchling. With cursed thrall trait its great on banner titan and yiur getting melee kills alot anyway.
I just got a rewind rounds/hatchling of this gun and loving it on my Hunter ❤
Testing weapons in that lost sector for your videos really lowers the value of the footage. Why not go in legend campaign or something?
Cuz he’d get clapped.
everyone knows this dude is a clown from a washed clan, don’t watch this guy for advice on weapons or builds
I honestly the strand fragments are underwhelming.. I mean there’s barely anything that focuses on strand itself.
I think it’s more specifically against Warlocks. Everything else helps Titans and Hunters heavily on getting their class ability back to suspend. Warlocks have to go out of their way to get suspend. Grenade or Wanderer.
@@nevetsgonnaletyougo1940doesn’t each class have two ways of getting suspend? Why does warlock have to go much more out of its way? Confused on that
@burtsbees3690 cause it's supposed to be a summoner class in a world where suspend is just the better option more often than not
Osteo and necrotic grips and eating ur shackle nade for suspend bursts on kills says hi, oh and also warlocks suspend a 7m radius of enemies when they destroy a tangle now stop acting like they have no way to build into it@@chem2430
Someone tell ehroar he can use heavy handed instead of fire power so both his graple and normal strand melee can make an orb on kill.
golden tricorn or precision instrument with rapid hit is what i want
Does Verities effect the strand grapple melee? From the video it didn’t look like it. I ask because grapple melee used to proc the grenade orb generating mod on gloves.
I crafted mine i put rapid hit and precision instrument for pvp
yes literally anything is going to obliterate a normal strike ehroar. so good weapon wow.
I got one that has Rewind and Sword Logic, it was absolutely demolishing dudes in IB this week lol
Why is weavers call being and not the wanderer, seems to me like wanderer would provide more rather than just a few more threadlings when you’re already making a lot
It certainly is a scout rifle
@ Ehroar The new iron banner scout can get demo in left and hatching in the right
It's actually reprised but we not going to talk about that lol
2:30 that very very clearly says tangle not threadling
I’d like to see you try making a build for foetracer, I feel like it has a ton of potential and would like to see what you could come up with.
My question is does a tangled count as a strand ability?
Since hatchling threadlings count as weapon damage, they should technically cause the cursed thrall explosions on kill
Sadly they dont even though Incandescent totally does which is odd. Threadlings do count towards Rewind Rounds though. Very odd.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 that is very weird. Have you tried the threadlings from thread of rebirth? Seen if they cause explosions?
@@attackmanatee02 Late response but I don't believe they would cause the explosions either as those would be ability produced rather than weapon (which is what would proc the explosions). The threadlings do however proc rebirth so the threadling from Hatchling can proc and spawn another threadling on kill.
what shader is that on the gun?
are all crota weapons get effects from cursed thrall if u wear necrotic grips?
Got precision intruments , keep away i think? High cal , hammer forged ans a range mastereork
that's a nasty pvp roll holy
Grapple melee works with veritys?
I really really want a wellspring hatchling strand weapon
i like the look of msot of the raid weapons crafted song of ir yut but think i went wrong with reconstruction target lock was initially between that or sword logic, now im thinking sword logic or bait and switch what would you craft? but great vids as always :) like your weapon reviews and build vids :)
Edit: I realized the original comment was talking about an LMG, but my comment below is about primaries. Things like Rufus in particular
I see a lot of people who run reconstruction over rewind rounds and I just don't understand it. Is there a reason behind this? As I see it, rewind allows you to shoot past your standard mag size much longer because it reactivates after a reload. With reconstruction you have to stow the weapon to get the most benefit, but it's a primary. Am I missing something?
@@hankhill8973there is so much downtime in raids, strikes , gms where you’re just walking from place to place. reconstruction is working that whole time. or when you’re just using other weapons. reconstruction redirection trustee i always thought was great, just don’t even need to think while using it really
@@hankhill8973the main difference is rewind is active and recon is passive, it comes down (to me at least) how I'm gonna be using the gun. If I plan to have it out often and use it a lot, rewind. If I'm pulling it out infrequently or I'm using it in an ability heavy build, recon.
Thanks error man
got rapid hit sword logic first try
whats the shader ?
Off topic, but can anyone tell me how he's able to play matchmade content solo, and if there's a way to do it on console/PS5?
I do remember time changing working years ago, but tried it recently and it doesn't seem to impact match-making
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First one I dropped was rapid/hatchling.
So are all the crota guns cracked?
Yoooo another d1 gun
I just really wish they would either nerf kinetic damage or buff strand and stasis weapons back to deal the same as kinetic weapons because every time I see a strand or a stasis weapon I immediately lose interest in it because it does less damage, I use headstone weapons because they contribute enough to the build that it’s worth giving up the damage but a stasis sniper or shotgun is just a worse weapon just for having a burn
Honestly, the only time that loss of damage is going to matter is day one contest mode dps checks if you happen to be using a stasis shotgun/sniper in your rotation. Definitely not a reason to completely skip/ignore a weapon imo as given the current state of power and how easy it is to buff damage it'll be negligible.
@@jordanreavis8163 I grab everything that’s craftable because it doesn’t clutter up my vault, because of that craftable weapons are way more desirable to me than random rolls but I do really feel the 15% less damage when I use a weapon and I’m always grabbing weapons with the mindset of is this useful in a GM because in lower end content I can literally use anything and it’s even worse on snipers they are instantly dead on arrival if they are strand or stasis I can’t imagine anyone using headstone on a sniper to synergise with a build
@@jordanreavis8163True but why would you use something that's just worse? Seeing how we have surges now there's no reason for Strand and Stasis weapons to do less damage than Kinetics. Stasis especially since Stasis shields don't even exist. Strand Shields exist on a single enemy type Only found on Neomuna patrols so in 99% of other content the entire reason for a weapon to be Strand is useless.
do the threadlings getting killed proc cursed thrall?
voltshot on the pule procs it so i'd imagine so
I use Necrotic Grips instead of Brow. It's just too nasty in every scenario.
Am I lucky to have one crafted already?
I don't think Fang comes anywhere close to Rufus with Demo + Paracausal/Hatchling.
If this could roll explosive/hatchling it could of been good but yeah… no good
How does he enter into activities solo so often?
He has people queue with him and then leave when the activity starts I think
@@Saucedup16it would still matchmake afterwards
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Why would you use this over a rufus's fury for pve? Or a hung jury for GMs? exactly
because its new and he needs views
Because newsflash you don’t need to use the best weapon for every slot all the time. Sometimes weapons can just be fun to use.
You don’t get a lot of range on an AR compared to a scout, and if we’re talking scouts, Hung Jury doesn’t synergize with Strand while Fang of Ir Yut does.
@@dewrod96servantofakenohime58taraxipos though
Because some people like this type of scout...
why is it strand now lmao
Please keep us informed if Golden Tricorn is worth it. Nice video, but i must say recently your guardian's fit has been going downhill
Ehmeow
Now show how it works in Legend/Master content :) or even Grandmaster
Why dont u show this off in harder content? Like idk if this is worth it in anything above a lost sector
I would use it, IF IT DROPPED FOR ME!!!!
Take a shot every time he says weapon
Yea I'm still not convinced to use hatchling in gms.
I mean it's free damage. If it worked like kinetic tremors that would be nuts
@@jordanreavis8163 you know what else is free damage, frenzy.
Recycled weapons woooi
It doesn't matter how cool combo you can craft if it is still the most boring weapon class in the game
To each their own I guess
Wrong
Well some people like scouts, Fang was one of my favorite primaries in D1
strand, dislike
mans will never test his builds in under leveled content lol
Your telling me I'm sitting on a god roll fang right now?!? I got surplus sword logic
rapid hit sword logic slaps, might go for RH hatchling tho