there is a lore reason for clara not wearing shoes. in a text message you get from her she gets shoes from the clara protection society and in that text she tells you the reason she doesnt wear them is because when she does she keeps twisting her ankle when she does wear shoes
Tbh I don't think Natasha sleeps a lot anyway so she doesn't need to put her clothes on and off a lot lmaoo. I liked the messy output they did for her outfit. It fits the desperation the underworlders are facing. She's a doctor that also has to fight if too many of their people gets injured.
I hard disagree with the Clara take. She's not meant to be a mechanic. Yes she works with machines to fix them, but not because she's a mechanic, it's because she's a kind hearted naive child who view robots as people since she was raised by one, we all see Svarog as her father. She wants everyone to be her family and her kindness extends to the machines. She doesn't view herself as merely fixing them, she sees herself as healing them much like a nurse. Which I feel is brought home by the similar feeling Light Cone where she's depicted with Natasha. I feel like saying she's a mechanic and trying to slap extra stuff onto her design is missing the deeper point of her character and what they want to convey about her to a surface level of well she fixes robots so let's design her to look like a mechanic. That feels more superficial than anything. She just is not designed to be a mechanic that's why they didn't design her to look like one. She's supposed to be a pure and innocent child and that's what the design conveys if you ask me. As for being shoeless grain of salt, but I'm told that's a trope of design for the pure innocent children in Asia, which would add to the intention. Again grain of salt, but that could just be the idea of practicality brushing up against a cultural norm. I am also firmly against the idea of practicality when it seems to choke out creativity and uniqueness, it feels too much like trying to add rules to making art and is more restrictive than fun. I feel like we see it with Nat here where her design shows that she does come from money and also captures the vibe of a nurse, but the more disheveled nature of it represents the harsh conditions they live in. A nurse keeping their hair out of their face makes sense, but when said nurse is the only person with medical training running herself into the ground treating everyone for basically free, and also running an resistance/protection org, the idea that she's tired and ragged would lead her to be more unkempt. The how long does it take to put on an outfit test is again one of those arguments I don't like in design, but these are preferences. Either you can or can't suspend your disbelief. I'm not saying making practical designs is a bad thing, but I would only really rate practicality if that's a standard they were trying to accomplish. Fantasy and sci fi fantasy when they choose focus more on being eye catching and just fun to look at throw convention to the wind. I feel like trying to engage with it on a more is it realistic view point more or less misses the point/sets it up to fail, if they weren't trying to do that of course they'd fail at it.
the whole point of natasha's design IS that she's struggling and exhausted and not a put together nurse. she has to be prepaired for everything and carries anything she could need with her at all times. It's highly unlikely she ever even gets a full night of rest and takes off her outfit. Also all the charcters are linked to other game characters so the whole point is to add features that link the honkai universes together. Natasha, Seele and many other characters from this era are references and not meant to link to each other they're meant to link the worlds
The issue with hsr seele design is that it’s meant to be a reference to ggz’s fire moth dlc seele. And it’s also meant reference hi3 seele which it is another issue because that all three characters have completely different personalities. Fire moth seele is horny for bronya and that’s her only personality from what I’ve heard. And hi3 seele is kind and sweet but has another person in her that is just cruel and manipulative. And hsr seele is just a tsundere half of the time. So the design is basically a reference to 2 or 3 characters that don’t even have the same personality and lore as hsr seele.
i think shes supposed to be a mix of hi3rd seele and veliona. she has velionas jp voice (just without the voice filter) and acts like her but deep down inside, is more similar to hi3rd seele
@@Malum-zw2ltI mean is it tho? If you read the text message that Clara said about how people give her shoes but her ankles hurts whenever she tries to walk with shoes, I think it’s pretty ok since she probably won’t want to have her ankles hurting all the time. I really suggest you do research before saying this.
Hmm,, i wonder if the shoes she had tried gave her sensory issues. Maybe that's why she prefers not to wear shoes. Probably not the actual reason, but makes for a pretty interesting headcanon i guess.
To be fair it makes sense for Natsha to be unkempt cuz nursing isn’t a pretty job it filled with blood, sweat, and tears no exaggeration Edit: WOW I can’t spell sweat correctly
I love seeles design it’s easily one of the best to look at and I think it not feeling belobog is kind of the point maybe we can uncover her origins in a later date
Personally i think honkai is consistent with the idea of putting as much stuff on the characters as they can and I kind of like it is just the way they do their stuff, I freackin love all the belobog designs (specially natasha, clara and SERVAL) even when they have somethings that dont make a lot of sense, they have another things that make the desing beatiful, like that red color on the natasha design and all the folds on the back of the dress, gorgeous, I prefer them to the xianxou designs that normally are like Chinese/Japanese? Inspired
You should really do research before clicking upload because most of the things that you pointed out has a reason why these characters wear or use it besides there is something called google where you can just search!!
Yes! TY I really want the creator to do research I had SM nitpicks on this video and the other two I truly believe the creator could actually understand the reasoning behind the designs instead of pointing out how this doesn’t make senses.
i think a lot of gacha game characters suffer from gacha game syndrome. characters are made to sell well first, be practical second. designs that are more complex tend to be what the majority of players notice first, and characters who tend to sacrifice details for a clearer design usually look more like NPCs than playable characters. for example, zzz actually does a good job of making the important or playable characters look like they fit in with their respective factions, but a lot of their designs do read a bit like NPC designs imo (belle, wise, zhu yuan, and grace are the worst offenders of this imo)
i still don't get why their outfits are so revealing (luka having no sleeves, hook having short shorts, seele wearing the bare minimum, etc.) when they literally live in a snowstorm
Luka doesn’t have any sleeves due to him protecting a child but getting injured in the process which shredded his sleeve into a broken fabric which could been found in his character story part 2.
They favored fun designs over what makes the most sense for the area they are found in. Things making sense can add depth to your world building, but just having fun and going with the fantasy is also a good thing.
Imo only Seele is big victim of bad design and in general was kind there to just Bronya's gf yet herself she did not affect the story. But rest of the Belobog characters good to excellent designs
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there is a lore reason for clara not wearing shoes. in a text message you get from her she gets shoes from the clara protection society and in that text she tells you the reason she doesnt wear them is because when she does she keeps twisting her ankle when she does wear shoes
I think its bc they were more focus on making seele looking like a seele expy other then a chracter from belobog
Call me Chiori cause they need drip OMG😭 /pos
Tbh I don't think Natasha sleeps a lot anyway so she doesn't need to put her clothes on and off a lot lmaoo.
I liked the messy output they did for her outfit. It fits the desperation the underworlders are facing. She's a doctor that also has to fight if too many of their people gets injured.
She lives in a more hostile environment and works two jobs, a Doctor a resistance leader ain't that stressful, her messy design fits her well
The poster child for bad art design is one of the best designs of that era.
I hard disagree with the Clara take. She's not meant to be a mechanic. Yes she works with machines to fix them, but not because she's a mechanic, it's because she's a kind hearted naive child who view robots as people since she was raised by one, we all see Svarog as her father. She wants everyone to be her family and her kindness extends to the machines. She doesn't view herself as merely fixing them, she sees herself as healing them much like a nurse. Which I feel is brought home by the similar feeling Light Cone where she's depicted with Natasha. I feel like saying she's a mechanic and trying to slap extra stuff onto her design is missing the deeper point of her character and what they want to convey about her to a surface level of well she fixes robots so let's design her to look like a mechanic. That feels more superficial than anything.
She just is not designed to be a mechanic that's why they didn't design her to look like one. She's supposed to be a pure and innocent child and that's what the design conveys if you ask me. As for being shoeless grain of salt, but I'm told that's a trope of design for the pure innocent children in Asia, which would add to the intention. Again grain of salt, but that could just be the idea of practicality brushing up against a cultural norm.
I am also firmly against the idea of practicality when it seems to choke out creativity and uniqueness, it feels too much like trying to add rules to making art and is more restrictive than fun. I feel like we see it with Nat here where her design shows that she does come from money and also captures the vibe of a nurse, but the more disheveled nature of it represents the harsh conditions they live in. A nurse keeping their hair out of their face makes sense, but when said nurse is the only person with medical training running herself into the ground treating everyone for basically free, and also running an resistance/protection org, the idea that she's tired and ragged would lead her to be more unkempt. The how long does it take to put on an outfit test is again one of those arguments I don't like in design, but these are preferences. Either you can or can't suspend your disbelief.
I'm not saying making practical designs is a bad thing, but I would only really rate practicality if that's a standard they were trying to accomplish. Fantasy and sci fi fantasy when they choose focus more on being eye catching and just fun to look at throw convention to the wind. I feel like trying to engage with it on a more is it realistic view point more or less misses the point/sets it up to fail, if they weren't trying to do that of course they'd fail at it.
the whole point of natasha's design IS that she's struggling and exhausted and not a put together nurse. she has to be prepaired for everything and carries anything she could need with her at all times. It's highly unlikely she ever even gets a full night of rest and takes off her outfit. Also all the charcters are linked to other game characters so the whole point is to add features that link the honkai universes together. Natasha, Seele and many other characters from this era are references and not meant to link to each other they're meant to link the worlds
The issue with hsr seele design is that it’s meant to be a reference to ggz’s fire moth dlc seele. And it’s also meant reference hi3 seele which it is another issue because that all three characters have completely different personalities. Fire moth seele is horny for bronya and that’s her only personality from what I’ve heard. And hi3 seele is kind and sweet but has another person in her that is just cruel and manipulative. And hsr seele is just a tsundere half of the time. So the design is basically a reference to 2 or 3 characters that don’t even have the same personality and lore as hsr seele.
i think shes supposed to be a mix of hi3rd seele and veliona. she has velionas jp voice (just without the voice filter) and acts like her but deep down inside, is more similar to hi3rd seele
In lore,Clara doesn't like shoes because they're uncomfortable or smth and people do try to give her shoes
just an exuse and a bad one
@@Malum-zw2ltI mean is it tho? If you read the text message that Clara said about how people give her shoes but her ankles hurts whenever she tries to walk with shoes, I think it’s pretty ok since she probably won’t want to have her ankles hurting all the time. I really suggest you do research before saying this.
Hmm,, i wonder if the shoes she had tried gave her sensory issues. Maybe that's why she prefers not to wear shoes. Probably not the actual reason, but makes for a pretty interesting headcanon i guess.
@@Malum-zw2lti mean its a legit thing. like ik ppl dont wear socks and stuff bc they feel weird on their feet
@@Malum-zw2lti mean i dont think its a bad excuse? it seems more like them incorporating a character quirk into the actual design.
Seele wearing the most fancy cosplay clothes in Jarilo while Underworld people is poor, sick, trying to survive for years.
Seele desigm look amazing but doesnt fit in belobog
omg i remember looking at seele's design a lot because of this exact reason
I remember when i watched this. It was a good video. Why was it reuploaded?
yo this type a viedo is kinda like TB Skyen for HSR I like it
It's possible that Natasha made a deal with Sampo to smuggle materials for Seele's clothing.
To be fair it makes sense for Natsha to be unkempt cuz nursing isn’t a pretty job it filled with blood, sweat, and tears no exaggeration
Edit: WOW I can’t spell sweat correctly
I love seeles design it’s easily one of the best to look at and I think it not feeling belobog is kind of the point maybe we can uncover her origins in a later date
Also Clara isn't that poor, since she is under the protection of swrog at least richer than hook
Imagine Clara tripping in shoe laces/heels and Svarog just nukes them because they harmed Clara
*Target spotted*
Is this a reupload? I have seel s video like this word for word a long time ago lol
Personally i think honkai is consistent with the idea of putting as much stuff on the characters as they can and I kind of like it is just the way they do their stuff, I freackin love all the belobog designs (specially natasha, clara and SERVAL) even when they have somethings that dont make a lot of sense, they have another things that make the desing beatiful, like that red color on the natasha design and all the folds on the back of the dress, gorgeous, I prefer them to the xianxou designs that normally are like Chinese/Japanese? Inspired
The luofu designs are Chinese inspired to be specific!
i remember watching this video months ago, why did it need to be reuploaded?
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im all for the seele design hate thank you for this
Seele had to look like Seele or else she’s not a real Seele
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then theres just sampo
Werent there some diaulogue saying how Clara just doesn't wanna wear shoes in one of the texts?
She doesn't wanna wear them because when she does she ends up twisting her ankle, she's just not used to wearing shoes.
You should really do research before clicking upload because most of the things that you pointed out has a reason why these characters wear or use it besides there is something called google where you can just search!!
Yes! TY I really want the creator to do research I had SM nitpicks on this video and the other two I truly believe the creator could actually understand the reasoning behind the designs instead of pointing out how this doesn’t make senses.
I have a lot to say about your criticism about luka and clara but oh well
Wait did you reuploaded all the videos? Why?
Community post say that the music was causing issues? And had to be re-edited
i think a lot of gacha game characters suffer from gacha game syndrome. characters are made to sell well first, be practical second. designs that are more complex tend to be what the majority of players notice first, and characters who tend to sacrifice details for a clearer design usually look more like NPCs than playable characters. for example, zzz actually does a good job of making the important or playable characters look like they fit in with their respective factions, but a lot of their designs do read a bit like NPC designs imo (belle, wise, zhu yuan, and grace are the worst offenders of this imo)
Yo where Svarog at?
i still don't get why their outfits are so revealing (luka having no sleeves, hook having short shorts, seele wearing the bare minimum, etc.) when they literally live in a snowstorm
Luka doesn’t have any sleeves due to him protecting a child but getting injured in the process which shredded his sleeve into a broken fabric which could been found in his character story part 2.
They favored fun designs over what makes the most sense for the area they are found in. Things making sense can add depth to your world building, but just having fun and going with the fantasy is also a good thing.
Imo only Seele is big victim of bad design and in general was kind there to just Bronya's gf yet herself she did not affect the story. But rest of the Belobog characters good to excellent designs
Seele is one of my favorite hoyo characters and hate how they kinda just added her for fan service since she really didn’t do much
what in gods name is a brooch?
A brooch is like a medal that is pinned to clothing. Unlike a medal, a brooch can simply be for aesthetic purposes. For example, a brooch could showcase a precious gem.
Google is free yk..
But in case u cant google it, brooch is a pin in the shape of gems (generally) u can wear on ur attire. Think of it like enamel pins but equipped with safety pin instead
@@bubblesparks I know, I was just baffled at how badly it was pronounced.
And sampo hahaha i dunno its funny😂