We filmed a kite beach for 8 hours...
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- We set up our camera to film the kitesurfing beach in Cayo Guillermo, Cuba for a full day. What did we catch on camera? Check out the video and see if you can spot the mistakes. (Thankfully no one was hurt!)
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this perspective gave me some new appreciation for my local.
Haha - same for us
Bruuuuh this is definitely the kookiest beach ever. 🤦♂️ New found appreciation for my local spot and the crew I ride with. 🙏
My spot is divided into a beginner area and a intermediate advanced area
Another good video from Our Kite Life.
It's frustrating to see the over confidence in some kiters but really cool how quick most kiters are to drop what they're doing to lend a hand when things start going sideways.
3:56 INVERTED is my Favourit one!!! Just EPIC 😂 😂 😂
Never thoguht inverted flight was possible
Gives you extra Depower 😂😂
Thank god I've never experienced so many unexperienced kiters on one beach...
There’s definitely a trade off - with great kite beaches (shallow water, sandy, good wind), comes a lot of people learning to kite
@@OurKiteLife Sorry... that's really, really not a lot - google for kitesurfing silvaplana. But honestly the people there are better instructed in safety (mostly)... :D
I'm genuinely impressed by the dude who had his kite inside out and safely returned to the beach. I had no idea such could be possible. Also watching inverted Souls with lines over canopy hurts to the core. Edit: Also considering it as newbie spot, my fav spot is also has plenty of beginners, but I've never seen such amount of mess.
I already did it once with a rebel 2009 when i was a begginner. When the stars are with you it become possible hehe
Portuguese here; From what I can tell and I'd say I'm intermediate at best, is that there seems to be a lot of newbies on that beach (like launching your kite directly against the wind window), which is fine. Since I've started kitesurfing my instructors where very safety oriented for one and when people spotted me, the newbie, doing something that could be hazardous to me or others they'd immediately come out and help and advise on the best course of action. I've also done the same in the following years and overall that seems to be the attitude of the community as a whole, since things can go really bad, really fast.
Yes, there are a lot of newbies on this beach. That approach is a great one because sometimes people don’t know what they’re doing wrong - and helping them correct it (in a friendly way) will improve beach safety for everyone
If people would kite like that at my homespot it would be closed down within weeks and there would be a lot of funerals!
Hi guys, thanks for sharing!!! This 5min30sec shows a good resumee of what we experience on almost every beach where we work, kite and travel to during our seasons. People take progression and skill as granted, there is no need to take a lesson as long as they're following the motto "no pain, no gain". Doesn't matter if it's just a broken kite/equipment (or few, when hitting other kites during crashes), a scared kid, injured beach user or a broken ankle...
The sad thing about it: there is (at least in the european & african areas where we travel to) no use of common sense, no learning from mistakes. Some kiters just deny/reject any hints and/or lessons offered (even for free), as they can do "on their own". To all these guys: you're spending thousands of $/€ for equipment, fuel, trips and apparel, so why you don't invest a small percentage of that money in your own safety (and thus in the safety of all beach users)?!? Use common sense, get a lesson, kite safe!
Cheers
Well said! Couldn’t agree more
@@OurKiteLife thanks!
One of the parts that's not really practiced when you have lessons, most schools are about getting you on the board as quickly as possible.
But you can actually practice landing and launching safely on shallow water with a buddy.
It's a bit of a mess out there, luckily everyone helped each other out preventing more drama.
Kitemare beach! Looks like everyone had fun and survived the mishaps. We've all been there to one extent or another; as you so clearly state, it's important to help each other out.
Yup. Everyone makes mistakes, so we don’t want to pick on people - it’s more important to help each other out as kiters
@@OurKiteLife The reality of extreme danger combined with almost unimaginable fun is so conducive to the Kite Community being ever vigilant in coming to the rescue. When I decided to learn to kite many years ago the guy I first inquired of told me some very heavy warnings. He basically tried to warn me off so that I wouldn't be the next ink blot on the sport ~ This was before there was good safety equipment and fundamentals... 15 years ago ~ but by watching videos like this one over and over, and by taking many lessons from good instructors, I finally got past a dangerous place in the learning curve. I was surprised how long that took (for me an expert surfer). A couple broken ribs, rasberries, drag burns and sprains and a whole lot of faceplants later I'm not as dangerous to be around. I never at first realized how perilous it really is... Location Location Location… so important ! A good instructor is even more important ~ Aloha
This is why I like my spot - deep water and side off shore can be pretty intimidating which keeps the number of newbies down until they get some skills.
A lot of fun memories! Thanks God nobody got hurt. Good job guys.
Y’all need some more instructors over there
Glad I don't kite at this beach!
Wow, great video as usual ... It's amazing how many things happened in just one day and it wasn't even a bad day and you didn't even capture all the things that happened ... kiters must use good/safe launching procedures. Thankfully no body and no kites were harmed during filming. For the record I wanted to list the steps to a good launch.
1. Choose a good setup/rigging/launching location
2. Run lines downwind - check bar and safety release and lines for any issues during rigging/setup.
3.
Before launching be aware of others upwind and down wind of you ... is someone else trying to launch/land etc?
4. Have a knowledgeable person hold your kite on its side with the open/down side facing towards the kiter (Beginners should launch with their body close to water / more experienced kiters should launch with their kite close to water)
5. Kiter should attach safety leash and then walk out downwind putting tension on the lines - once under tension both kiter and person holding the kite should do a pre flight check to see if there are any issues. Ensure front lines are untwisted as well as back lines
6. Now Attach chicken loop and slowly walk up wind until kite stops fluttering ... you don't attach chicken loop right away in case something goes wrong all you do is let go rather than pull safety.
7. Take one more step up wind and kite will start to gently push into the person holding.... this is the correct launch angle. Being too upwind is something some kiters do to try and counteract backstalling but this is dangerous, reckless and makes life for the person holding the kite very difficult. You can see when kiters are too much upwind because the kite is literally smashing into the person trying to hold it.
8. Once in the right position and ready to launch ... place Top hand on the bar and give thumbs up with other hand - then place the thumbs up hand either on the bar or on the chicken loop ready to release. Do not grab the lines or the floaty. Grab the bar and be ready to release if something goes wrong.
9. Steer the kite out of the holders hands - holder does not toss the kite.
10. As you steer the kite up do not sheet in ... a loss of power here is most often caused by a back stall which means the kiter should sheet out as the kite moves up and through the sky. In general sheet in to steer but then sheet out as the kite starts to move. Also in areas with wind shadows etc, walking upwind after the kite has been released can help promote flight as can tugging on the front lines to promote laminar air flow over the kite and get it moving through the sky. If you launch in an area with wind shadow get the kite low and over the water as quickly as possible to get to cleaner wind.
11. Be careful when bending down to pickup boards etc as this can change the flight of the kite ... in some cases even sending it past 12 o'clock which in low winds can cause the kite to move past the apogee and the kite can fall out of the sky behind/upwind of you. I have also seen chicken loops accidentally release when bending down.
Pro Tips:
- I should note this procedure is for inflatables and not foil kites
- All kiters should learn to self launch and self land before being considered an independent kiter
- I do not ever fully "depower" a kite at launch... at most a quarter "depower". Having the trim fully out ("powered up") helps to launch the kite at the edge of the wind window and does not have extra line dangling about to get twisted up in case of an emergency. When choosing kite sizes its a good idea for the kite chosen to be ridden fully "powered" so you use the "depower" as needed.
Thanks Ivano for taking the time to list out the steps - much appreciated :)
So glad I live near a seldomly used beach... for kiting... after watching all the chaos... and knowing how my own learning curve has been just on the edge of safety. Good to have a place to learn where you don't get too involved with collisions and tangles, lost kites (runaways) . What a gift to be spared the confrontations and accidents (so far) Great work crew ! Always eager to see your new videos ~ I always learn so much ! I have had some wild moments and injuries, equipment failures and accidents and mistakes...The Kite ritual is so very complex compared to surfing.The equipment knowledge and Kite Path (WOW) I'm just amazed that there could be something as good as surfing after all these years. Love the cool community too! Surfing had become almost undoable for me as punks told me I was too old now for surfing. HA ! NOT !!
You're never too old to learn something new :) happy to hear you're enjoying kiting and the community - it is pretty amazing!
Was planning a trip there in March, might reconsider for safety reasons..
This is how a normal kite day looks like in this spot. Thanks for the video.Now my friends will beleive me 😀
haha, no problem!
wind shadow effect in action! many beautiful examples to explain to new and old students... added to favourites :-) best part was the 2 tractors coming along though :-)))
Talk about bad timing with the tractors :)
The more paradisiac the beach is, the more dangerous it is because of "holidays" kiters ! In winter in North of France you don't have that kind of issues :)
Very true. It’s the same with our home spot in Toronto, especially this time of year :)
Thank you, guys, this is one very educational video!
Which is why I love kitesurfing here in the Scottish Highlands , acres of space.
This gave us some appreciation for our home spot too
Launching Kites downwind((( reminds me of my beginnings in the 90's, back then we had no schools, the gear was new and Raw!!
I never thought I'd say that one day but I guess some people could REALLY use a couple hours on a trainer kite !
... Glad you and your camera survived this by the way 😂
Starting to believe I only know kite pro's..
Nice...😄Have seen comparable situation at many different kite beaches (all over Europe and Africa.) Helping beginners or advanced kiters, or even stop them when one sees that they want to do something crazy (like starting in the wrong direction or with a 14m kite at 30knts) should be a rule for everyone who is a bit advanced, And maybe remember people that you don’t learn safe Kitesurfing on RUclips, and better in a good kite school....
WOW. Some crazy people there.
Yep I just came back from there yesterday sadly it looks like that. I was mostly riding far away on my hydrofoil or on the flat water spot so it was mostly fine but you're never immune to those people trying to test the limit of natural selection when going in and out of the water. One guy crashed his kite into my lines when I was coming back to shore, he came from behind out of control I couldn't see him until he it me. Same guy came back on a jet ski several time getting himself in trouble. Some people need to learn the hard way!
That’s nuts!! Wow.
Please do anothee one of these they so funny and u learn wat to expect
Pleaae guys
As soon as we can travel again we will gladly make another! Our home spot doesn’t look like this and rarely offers a full day of kiting :)
@@OurKiteLife you should come to langebaan in cape Town its a beutiful place with lots of kite accitdents at main beach
We hope to kite there someday!
Came back after sharing the beach for a week with the Montreal school. Haven't noticed any of what I see here over a weeks stay, props to the instructors. Biggest issue I had was getting past newbies spread every 40m, 15m from shore in chest deep water. Wind was marginal a lot of the time and they'd just stand there unable to head in deeper or start and kept kite at 12.
We shared the kite beach with the school from Montreal on our last day and it wasn’t crazy. Busy, yes. We were impressed as we expected the number of incidents to go up, but instead there were next to none.
Yeah, got this problem at my holiday kitespot too. Students from kiteschool next door blocking the whole spot to get in and out. Took me one time about an our to find an apropriate gap to get back for landing
The guy at 1min at least pulled the safety right away, good habit
Best Channel love it
Thanks!
Can't believe some of you have never seen kites flying inverted. I have had this happen after crashing trying tricks and rather than landing it back on the water and trying to pop it the right way decided to fly it back to beach. land safely and invert it. These guys don't know how much they are getting away with. I would love to visit as a spectator...
Lot of people have no idea about kite, risk, help, launch, land, foils...omg!
I'm a Cuban rider, guillermo is nice but Playa Santa Lucia has a crazy wind...good ride
Hey Dariel, thanks for the suggestion! We’ll look into Playa Santa Lucia for our next Cuba trip!
No wonder that you have to wear life jackets... crazy!! :D
This would be disastrous in higher-wind conditions.
Your a legend
from the kite beach Ikeo Kolemo... what a funny way of saying Cayo Guillermo ;-)
Ah, sorry! I always seem to butcher the pronunciation of names, no matter how hard I try... :(
She said "At Cayo Guillermo" she just pronounced it fast and Cayo with the long "kay-yo" instead of "Kah-yo"
Cool. Do another.
To survive in that beach is like a russian roulette!!!
Always good to see Darwin's theory in action
I really appreciate my spot. I launch on my friends back yard in hatteras, nc. It's usually only me and maybe someone else launching so you can usually get help launching, and if you cant he has an anchor in the water to self launch.
Sounds like a great set-up/location you’ve got. As much as we love escaping to warmer conditions in the winter, going to a “busy” (for us) beach does make us appreciate our home spot too
they did their kite course on youtube 😂😂😂😂OMG
Looks like a wind shadow on the right, maybe not
Will be going to the exact same spot this christmas, found it funny...
I’ll maybe catch you one day haha
Nice, enjoy! Let us know if the kite beach resembles this video or not :)
Well I hope not hahaha
A killing session....;););) very good work.....
Wow, never saw a kitebeach like this before
looks good to me 👍
,where was this? It looks like a beach where they rented equipment to anybody. I've never seen all that caos in one spot in one day. Incredible
Cayo Guillermo, Cuba
What's crazy is, that was 8 hours of ONE day. I'm embarrassed for everyone involved. All these 'premium/expensive' kites being handled and flown by goons. I hope you guys stayed safe while near that circus - I'd be so worried about rogue lines or getting a kite to the head!
It was actually worse the day before - which is what gave us the idea to record a full day. I got hit with lines on my neck while walking away from the water on the beach by someone riding the shoreline with his kite way too low... I was fine but that could’ve been really bad!
You can buy these kites on ebay, „used 1 session only“ 😂😂
You would think that knowing how to launch a kite would be Kiting 101. I guess not.
Why do people launch and land their kites with both hands on the bar??
More lessons needed by some kiters...
any good wave kiting in Cuba?
there's a reef that you can kite to for waves... but as a wave destination, there are likely better places to go
Epic Video Love it Love from Kuwait
Thanks! Cheers from Canada
I am NEVER going to feel safe on THAT beach ever again!!!!!!!!!!
😱😱 Omg vaya pandilla de cafres
Great video and much needed. Touched on everything I see at our local spots. Before I rant, I have to say that most kite communities are super cool. But as the video shows, some issues. I think many things fall into 2 buckets.1. Self launching and landing when there are available kiters on the beach? Why? Not only is it bad for your kite, it brings on an element of risk. Obviously its necessary at times but the more assisted launches you can rack up, the better it is for your kite and risk exposure. This assumes you have someone who knows how to launch. Had a fellow new kiter literally throw my kite into the window once. Drug me down the beach a ways.2. Kite loops and crashes near the beach and aggressively flying kites on/near the beach. Unnecessary and usually avoidable. Stuff happens. I've had some kite crashes near the beach but its typically been my fault. Get out on the water. The vid shows just a great deal of aggressive, almost violent kite activity near the beach. Great video and topic though. thanks
When i See guys like that i deflate their kite. For my own and their safety
Really Stupid Comment!
God. My homespot is usually overcrowded with tourists and boats, but sure seems safer than this place cause I'm the only one kiting
How did that one @0:58 happen? looks like a win. Ah, most likely release was pulled.
not depowering before a launch or land is one of my pet peeves.
Does anybody can you tell what date it was exactly ?
Would've been early to mid-November. Don't remember what day exactly, sorry!
Hi, what camera did you use for this? Thank you
Sony RX 10 IV
How did you stay 8 hours out and kept your skin like that? I can cover myself in zinc and would still have some red spots.
The camera was mostly on by itself with us being around. We also reapply sunscreen all day
Gotta love kite launches. Always interesting.
I have never seen so much kookiness! So many people trying yo launch with full depower and back stalling kites... Get some lessons.
Phew, thankfully I am not on the kook video!
One word “Rum”
Half these guys are pros on an all inclusive holiday.
Kite Surfing I think I meant run 🏃 🤣
@@pixelloopy No I think they meant "Rum is to blame". (pros on an all inclusive holiday) :)
😂🤦♂️ It's like they never took lessons or the instructor forgot to teach them how to launch and land. But literally every kite beach is like this. Top tip: always stay unwind of noobs.
I dont like to film this stuff but it's hard not to. 🤣
nice lady! ha ha "sorry"
a lot of kites have low pressure, and they try to fly those? :O
I’m surprised that kiting isn’t banned world wide yet.
Hopefully it won't ever come to that!
OM fu£€ing G.
2 kites flow inside out...I’ve never seen that before.
some people just can’t be told..
Tourist spots vs home spots eh.
Seeing inside out kites was a first for me as well (to be fair, they didn't set-up them up that way - lol). What you said: tourist spots vs home spots - I think that's a big reason for what we saw... lots of new/inexperienced/vacation-only(?) kiters. We very rarely see this kind of stuff at our home spot
I've been kiteboarding for over 20 years and I have never seen that before!
It has happened to me once before. The way it happened was that I mislanded a jump which led to the kite stalling but me still having a lot of speed towards the kite. The kite fell into the water while I still boarded towards it which led to all of the line tension disappearing completely. Then it got caught in some waves and started twisting. It went inside out. However after a little more twisting in the waves it was outside out again with my outer lines being twisted through my inner lines. Luckily I was at the end of a downwinder planning to land on the beach in a couple minutes, so all was fine in the end.
Is it really gusty or do people not have a clue. I've never seen as much carnage at one spot!
It was not gusty at all :s
If there is "kitebeach" in the spot's name, that may doesn't sounds too good...
OMG who teached them kiting?
Regular session at a regular beach!?! Good grief I hope not. More carnage here in 8hrs than all year at my local.
Ya - I just threw that out there at the beginning of the day, before seeing what was to come... This does not represent a regular session at our local spot either
where did these people buy their license or how much did they pay their instructor to give them the license
good question
3:52 I didn't know that inflatable kites can fly inverted... (???)
I didn't either until I saw it happen (twice!) that day
"a regular session, at a regular beach?" What!? Where in the world should this be considered regular in a 8 hour time span hahaha?
Haha - I take it back! I said that at the beginning of the day, not having any idea what was to come :)
Seeing this just hurts
Crazy!! What happend at 4:03 - this can´t be true ;) So many idiots on this spot, I can´t believe. No words to that Core - Rider; unbelievable. Thanks for sharing. I won´t show up there ;)
the guy was trying to land a kite, but he kept tension on the lines so the guy landing him couldn't flip it. As someone catches the kite you are supposed to move forward to release line tension.
I see some reasons for this nightmare:
1- many kite schools focus training on the water, with boats pulling upwind and most people are never trained to launch and land, as instructors do this for them on beaches crowded of sun beds and sun umbrellas. When people make their first water starts, they purchase their first kites and experienced kiters received these Rookies on their spots and must teach them safety basis before something very dangerous happen!🧐
2 Many pumps are cheap but of very low quality: I have got cut tube, poor welding on the pump base, damaged connecting part, damaged ring around the pumping tube, 🥴all issues leading to under inflated kites (despite hard pumping) which is difficult to estimate without experience, and impossible to appreciated risks consequences before personally enjoying the issues!🥶
3-I can see plenty of good tutorials on RUclips for safe launching or landing 🤓and despite this plenty of people still do crazy things
4-As experiences kiters, I must admit that you would spend your session helping beginners not to start dangerously, but many beginners just don’t care and underestimate the risks for them and the others🥵
5-Moving from lei to foil kite is a new chalenge, with very few schools practicing that, so you must find experienced guys to teach you the safe techniques, unless you will be at big risk! Launching 15m soul in big tree forest as you do in Canada is a kind of game which cannot be started without the great coaching of your great team!😇
All these in one day!! The place is deadly, how many under inflated kite!!!!
Its a kook town. Was there pump shortage? Why are there so many under-inflated kites?
This spot is popular for newbies. Not sure what was going on with all the under inflated kites - something we noticed too
I would prefer to crash a under-inflated kite onto the beach 👍
One half probably reasoned underinflated fronttubes are less likely to burst on beach impact, while the other half counted on carribbean sun doing its part to heat-expand the air. 🙄
@@IceAce1 on one account a fully inflated crashed kite bleeds air like a sponge afterwards.2 also it can pop in the sun.
@@s2oooo Well, for kite schools I have seen the practise to underinflate for the first lessons (countless crashes on the water).
In general, underinflation lowers kite control, because the canopy twists more.
This is what you will see as there all new bees
Where's that place again? I'll do my best to avoid it.! Nice work though. Did you get the offenders to take a look at their learning points?
It’s Cayo Guillermo, Cuba - between Iberostar Daiquiri and Gran Caribe Club. Not sure if any of the offenders have seen this. In a couple instances experienced kiters helped/explained what was done wrong on the beach
cayo guillermo, pronounced: ka-yo gee-er-mo.
Wow, good video. I went to cayo guillermo, didn't see any of this. This is heinous, unfortunately.
KOOKTOWN. Seriously a lot of dangerous things happening over there. All the core kiters who are pulling the bar in all the way while launching in the wind window. Also seen a lot of underinflated kites. Lazy people..
The sandbag caught in the lines of the Soul... yep... been there... 🤦♂️
it happens!
Similar thing happened to me too. Except the sandbag had 2 heavy rocks in it and it was wrapped in kite's cloth, which was caught in the bridle line.
Even worse, I found out when the kite was already in the air. After about 30 seconds of struggle, it fell down with a mighty splash. I was glad no one stood under my kite at that moment.
Had this too, sandbag trapped in bridles 🙈
Few underinflated kites there..Though I agree with @hurfadurf, seems like most places i've been including the local spot just never see this type of behaviour.
dont pull the bar while lauching
1. Don't laugh you were once the kook on the beach.
2. This beach has exceeded its kook quota.
Something else to keep in mind is that this is 5 minutes taken from 8 hours of footage of a pretty busy & popular kite/vacation beach (especially for beginners). Not defending the mistakes made here, just pointing out that 99% of the time it was not like this :)
Is that Moron Beach? I have never seen so many unskilled kiters packed together.
3:31 and 3:54, please someone explain how do you manage to fly the kite inside out O.O"
we were surprised ourselves!
OMG, What is this???? Worst kitebeach I saw ever. Good video for learning pourposes. Are those kiteboarders mainly locals?
No it's a resort in cuba, everyone there is on vacation