Comparison : Nikkor Noct vs Minolta Rokkor 58mm f/1.2
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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I love vintage glass and this is a comparison I've been wanting to do for a really long time. The main difficulty is logistics as finding these two magnificent lenses is no easy feat. The Nikkor Noct, I looked for 4 years until I found one, the Minolta Rokkor 58mm f/1.2, I got it by chance because it needed repair. Finally I was able to compare these two great and legendary vintage lenses.
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Never see a comparson like this...two germs. THANK YOU
Hello, thanks to you don't forget to share with friends. Best.
A truly fabulous video thank you. This is the way to look at lenses, especially special vintage ones. First the technical properties so we know what each one is capable of and then the artistic, creative rendering in real life. A lot of work but so worth it. Your videos are some of the gems of RUclips, I've learned a lot and hopefully will be able to also do some basic repairs and cleaning on my own lenses. I'm a little bored of some of the new Z lenses, technical marvels yes, but often look like AI rendition with little character. I'm re-building some of my F-mount lenses to use alongside the Z's. I will now have a look at some of the Minolta offerings too. Thanks so much. Cheers, Robert.
Thanks a lot, I always appreciate your feedback. When I was "young" in photography, I craved for a "sharp" popular lens at the time, but was highly disappointed when I got it. Images were very sharp but they were lifeless. If you have any question about F lenses, feel free to ask me anytime, I have tested many of them. Regards.
thank you for a great comparsion great lenses! 👏I long time a dream about noct, but bought Minolta second version.
Hi, two great lenses indeed. I like both a lot, was sad to see the Minolta going away to his owner, but was happy of being able to restore it. Cheers.
excellent compilation !! thanks for all the work involved. On 58s, while ago I got my hands on an old 5.8cm f1.4 nikkor (as a paperweight, I bought it along with others hoping to be able to repair it). After cleaning , recementing the back doublet and readjusting everything, it turned out to be a pleasant surprise. It's a different optical scheme than all the 50-55 nikkors (7 elements, but 4 at front, 3 at back), and as a result it has a much softer bokeh at 1.4, almost without any of those typical double lines. The field curvature is huge, it's never get super sharp at far edges, but the center performs quite well (it has less "glow" than any of the iterations of the 50 1.4 or 55 f1,2; less lateral chromatic aberrations than newers 50 1,4, but slightly greater longitudinal CA)
Very special for portraits !!
Sounds like a very interesting lens indeed, never had one of those in my hands. They seem to be rather uncommon. You put a lot of work in restoring it, congratulations. Working with lenses you've fixed yourself is always special, a bit like cooking your own food, it always tastes better. 😊
Great comparison. Many thanks!
Thanks to you my friend for showing your appreciation! Cheers
Really thank you for your comparison video. I really like Minolta lenses and I don’t know why people expend a lot of money in Nikkor Ais or canon Fd…
I like Minolta very much too. Specially their very early lenses and Lightmeters. Best
I'm a Nikon guy but i gotta say that Minolta lens is beautifully made. Very pretty piece of metal and glass
Both lenses are true artworks of mechanics and optics, I don't think we'll see again such quality in newer lenses.
The Minolta Rokkor looks More Natural in the Forest ... Being less sharp. Excellent video.. thanks
Sharpness is a bit overrated in my opinion, particularly for "natural" shots.
Dos titanes de la Óptica!!!! Muy buen vídeo 🤙👏👍🇦🇷
Gracias hombre, lo pusiste en los términos perfectos. Dos titanes de la óptica !!! Un abrazo.
There seems to be something strange going on with the Rokkor. Maybe decentred? I know old lenses can have some field curvature, but this is too much. At 29:00, the far right corner of the Rokkor image seems to be getting sharper or in focus, even if it is way in the background and shot wide open. And in the left side of the same image, it's blurry, but on the Nikkor image it's sharp? Same with image on 33:10 : the plants under the bridge are more in focus and less blurry compared to the Nikkor. Maybe you didn't shot at F1.2 when you thought you did?
Hello, thanks for the very detailed feedback and your very sharp eye. Maybe I made a mistake in aperture with the Rokkor as it has this weird setting of half stops and the ring turns easily. About the decentering, I no longer have the lens so I cannot check. Regards.
Small differences aside, the two lenes are practically idential in rendition. Good review.
Yes, they give both a rather similar rendition. Best.
The Noct looks much better. I have to wonder if your poarticular Rokkor is a bit of a bum lens. I would love to see a rematch. Especially with the version of the Rokkor that came out circa 1973. I think that was the 3rd version.
I'd like to do a rematch if I come across another of these Rokkors, fantastic lenses ! Best
What software are you using to show the comparison?
Nikon capture NX-D, it's a free software by the way. Cheers.
Good try, but A bit unfair on Minolta with its yellow haze, that reduces the sharpness and colour rendition. Looks like you have a radioactive lens that you must either enjoy its yellow vintage look, but not compare it to the clean glass, or treat the yellow haze under a strong UV light for a few days, before doing comparison.
@@numistika Thanks for the advice. I'll take it for future comparisons. Best.
Very well done presentation
Glad you appreciate, don't forget to share with friends!
The Rokkor is so much better!
And lot cheaper!
Nice interesting video like alway!
Thanks a lot my Friend!
Do you have experience with the Nikon 50mm 1.4 AF? I guess I have to dissasamble and clean it.
@@danielm1812 I have already disassembled it, there is a video on the channel. Cheers.
Minolta Rokkor is decentred... or bad repair. Maybe dexter scene poorly focused. A BAN table lenses swapped Minolta in left and Nikon in right. Everyone who takes photos with a Minolta lens knows its Minolta colors and Minolta cromatic aberation. They are definitely on the left picture...
Thanks for the advice. Best.
I think the Nikon wins overall
The Noct is certainly a great performer, the only drawback (if one is to be found) would be it's scarcity. Cheers.
Minolta has the sauce. I think the coating has a bit more contrast, and more glow, awaking its warmth. Minolta Rokkor coating elements come from fresh spring volcanic water pools in the mountains. Much better for skin. I know skin. I spend lots of time with thorium. The cost of each lens is their most drastic difference. Rokkors for the W yet again.
@@JonathanMahoneyDOP It was obvious to me before we got to 2.8. After that, wel, I already have 50, 55, 58mm 1.4 Minoltas. None of which cost me more than 40, and two came with Minolta bodies. People forget that a 58mm 1.4 lens on apsc is an 87mm 1.4 lens. Try finding an 87mm 1.4 lens for less than 600.
I never regarded my old Noct very highly - I'll have to start using it again ... 🦘
The thing with the Noct is the very special rendition it produces, like a painting as put on the video. Some may love it, others hate it, no middle ground. Cheers.