At the age of 58, I have come to realise that almost no one knows what the hell they're talking about. Sir Roger is one of those that do - unlike the weak, virtue signalling Conservative party who recently fired him!
As a private citizen, Scruton can be quite effective at contextualising and simplifying the complexities involved. He has more latitude outside of a political context and can operate in his capacity as a credible philosopher of our time. Starkey, Scruton, Murray, Hitchens all have interesting things to say about our current time. As always, judge for yourself.
I agree that Scruton is very "deep". If you are into this kind of "deepness" I can recommend Martin Heidegger. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger (I'm 63, so I win - or did I loose because I just committed a Godwin? -)
To recycle a comment: In 1985 Roger Scruton was effectively ostracised from academia for the publication of his book Thinkers Of The New Left. Well, so called philosophers (guardian sophists?) such as A.C Grayling, Julian Baggini, Nigel Warburton, Stephen Law, seem to have done rather well for themselves... hardly stepping on toes. Only have to follow their twitter chambers to see how much in need academia is of an overhaul.
Notice how Sir Roger unfailingly relates his arguments in all of his lectures and video interviews back to the welfare of the UK rather than to the policy of a particular political party. Unlike most of our legislators, he has spent a lifetime reading, thinking, and writing about political philosophy and, therefore, speaks with a moral authority that mere elected office cannot confer. The principles he espouses are not new. They are found in the common law and embodied in the American Constitution. But they are too often ignored by liberals and forgotten by conservatives too intent on a political agenda. Sir Roger is above politics. More of our national leaders should be too.
@Johannes Liechtenauer Third World? Hmm... your obvious ignorance is not surprising. Or perhaps I'm wrong. What is the *Third World* ? (While you're at it...google the second world...let me know what you come up with. And join the rest of us in the 21st century)
Did great work promoting Japanese tobacco in Western media too. Morally solid chap! www.theguardian.com/media/2002/jan/24/advertising.tobaccoadvertising?fbclid=IwAR2fH1uw5KCncnYEk8WSvkVXKQwMmuqIabCf2NUQKpvMMc2SO-Whk-eokPE
shadowdawg04 The myth that decisions are made by unelected officials is a just that .A myth and therefore undermines this mans credibility however eloquent his rhetoric
I can see now why Scruton was ousted the way he was. There's no way his insightful and complex thoughts could have ever, been tolerated be the "Woke" brigade, and I am using the term "brigade" purposefully
There are many within the Conservative party that are still genuinely conservative. There is a minority of conservatives that are fake conservatives and it is they who get the most media time and are present as the face of the party and they have the swing vote within the party.
+bighand69 Rubbish. There may be some actual genuine conservatives in the party but they are rare outliers. They nearly all read from the same bullshit zionist bankers book of domination.
+Ben Cox Because they are unelectable and unaccountable. Let them get on with it. Nothing any one country in the EU says will stop the ultimate goal. If you have not watched the Yuri Bezmenov video yet (a video from the 80's mind you) I suggest you do watch it. They want the EUSR. It won't work.
+Ben Cox I'm not sure what you don't understand at this point. Please comment after you have watched the Bezmenov video. They are all, ultimately, aligned in their goals. How the hell could an unknown like Macron get voted in to begin with? Britain may well get what it wants 97.8% of the time but it's for the reason aforementioned. This is old-hat at this point.
+Ben Cox I'm glad you think for yourself. Now all you have to do is forget about conspiracies and look at the hard data especially at demographics. I never mentioned Russians or Russian influence by the way as the Russians have been infiltrated by the same stuff which Bezmenov explains. Soros is just a puppet/front man. Also, 9/11 was a "conspiracy theory" remember? By the way, the CIA invented that term at about the same time operation mockingbird was being rolled out. Coincidence? I think not. More people have been imported into to this country since 1997 than natural immigration occurred between 1066 and 1997. Yes, 1066 the year of the Norman invasions. Coincidence? I think not. Adam Smith was a man of a different era as was John Locke. Follow the money.
@@LucasLima-sz4kg Is it an extreme thought to call for social cohesion between people of one nation? I think not. I say this as a socialist. We've been much too generous to allow all cultures to live within our European borders and as you see today, trust is nowhere to be found. This is plain reality. Step out of your echo chamber and join us in the real world.
@@DarkAngelEU Brexit is really "working out" now xD The UK chose distance in a world, where the West must stand together against autocratic governments like China and Russia. The UK cut itself off. This "special way" now results in a real loss of wealth and a chaotic political situation, which was foreseeable and warned about for years. Brexiteers lied about all of it massively. You want no migrants? Well drive your trucks, build your buildings and nurse your old people yourself then.
Too sensible, too intelligent, too accurately relevant a speech for such a madhouse as modern Britain. Overpopulation and the crazy attitude towards mass immigration is ruining it for one and all.
@George Makedon The Un Reported History of Capitalist Christian Democracy "The White Supremacists"....in the 20th and 21st Century. Feed 2 BILLION people from starving to death for decades. Created 1 BILLION brand new Middle Class human beings in the China and India with "really BAD for White Supremacists" trade deals. Defeated Nazi Germany in WW2, rebuilt Europe from the ground up with BILLIONS of UN paid back Marshall Plan White Supremacist tax dollars. Defeated Marxist Communist USSR and PRC that MURDERED 120 MILLION (minimum) by forced labor, starvation and disease. Invented 90% of every industrial, technological and MEDICAL improvement for the last 200 years. Raised the Middle Class living standards for BILLIONS of human beings beyond all human history. "White Supremacist" Business & Criminal (UK Courts) Laws and Courts are the FAIREST and most HONEST Courts in the History of Humanity. The ONLY (USA) Country in the World with specifically written INDIVIDUAL Bill of Rights that include the 1st, 2cd and 5th Amendments that PROTECT the Rights of FREE Speech (including HATE SPEECH) the Right to won a FIREARM comparable to ANY Government or Military personnel weapon. The RIGHT to REMAIN SILENT and NOT Self IN criminate your self !
@George Makedon The Un Reported History of Capitalist Christian Democracy "The White Supremacists"....in the 20th and 21st Century. Feed 2 BILLION people from starving to death for decades. Created 1 BILLION brand new Middle Class human beings in the China and India with "really BAD for White Supremacists" trade deals. Defeated Nazi Germany in WW2, rebuilt Europe from the ground up with BILLIONS of UN paid back Marshall Plan White Supremacist tax dollars. Defeated Marxist Communist USSR and PRC that MURDERED 120 MILLION (minimum) by forced labor, starvation and disease. Invented 90% of every industrial, technological and MEDICAL improvement for the last 200 years. Raised the Middle Class living standards for BILLIONS of human beings beyond all human history. "White Supremacist" Business & Criminal Laws and Courts are the FAIREST and most HONEST Courts in the History of Humanity. The ONLY Country in the World with specifically written INDIVIDUAL Bill of Rights that include the 1st, 2cd and 5th Amendments that PROTECT the Rights of FREE Speech (including HATE SPEECH) the Right to won a FIREARM comparable to ANY Government or Military personnel weapon. The RIGHT to REMAIN SILENT and NOT Self IN criminate your self !
He was saying that he wasn't sure he could say anything quite as succinct as the others, which made it sound as if he was going to talk for longer than them. The chairperson simply reminded him that he had a time limit. That is all. It was perfectly reasonable and within the proper remit of a person chairing a debate.
(Part 2) the preservation & prosperity of THE UNITED KINGDOM. No foreign interference or colluding with politicians, lawyers,bankers, lords, wannabe gina lollobrigadas. These lot is in our very midst, sad to say but true.
@@LucasLima-sz4kg Theresa May's deal was Brexit in name only, and would have kept us under the thrall of the EU with even less say than we currently have. Just take note of that.
Shame Brexit has nothing to reduce it. It happens because we need workers prepared to do jobs British people cannot or will not. We just swapped Indonesians for Romanians
@@jontalbot1 Which means Brexit wasn't the problem! The problem was/is the conservative party...aka Roger's Scruton party which was in power for 12 years now.
@@jontalbot1jobs British people won't do or jobs British people won't do for a pittance of a wage when they have mouths to feed? Ioanis can always go back to Romania where his £20,000 salary goes much further but Gary who intends on living in his homeland does not have the same luxury....
In what point exactly? When he, from the largest Empire and thieve nation of all time, bullshits about right to self-government? Or when he uses USSR and not USA as an example of immigration? Or when he talks about the Treaty of Rome, which is no longer in place? The man is an absolute idiot.
This is first time I've heard of Sir Roger Scruton.... Great speech! I look forward to listening to more and reading some of his material. Hopefully Brexit will happen sooner then later!
Most of those who didn't grasp it at the time have come to realize that Sir Roger's recent death was not only a tremendous loss not only to Britain and the Anglosphete but to the entire world. His keenness of thought and his ability to express those thoughts with clarity interjected with occasional humor (including his unmatched ability at delivering self-deprecating comments which were clearly undeserved) will be sorely missed. He was the best spokesman and exemplar for conservatism since William F. Buckley,Jr. Not to mention the fact that (call it old- fashioned, if you will) he was the very model of proper English Gentleman. Rest in peace, Roger. Although you may hav been too modest to realize, you made a difference - and what higher praise can one give a man? his brilliant mind
It is a pleasure to observe how Sir Roger Scruton calmly enjoys the passage of the Kali Yuga holding a superb cup of tea. He just doesn't lose his temper, speaks like a legitimate nobleman and surfs the language like a slippery Welsh dragon: you can understand his point, but you can't accuse him of inelegance. Thank you for your legacy, Mr Scruton.
Such a gentle, thoughtful man. I wonder if the We hasn't already gone though. When someone talks about We British, I wonder who that is. I for one sometimes feel I am wandering round a bomb site in this society. If it still is a society.
And yet, isn't it the case that Germany, France, Belgium and so on are all facing the destruction from within of their nations, of the identity of their people, of the Hi-trust society (Scruton's We). Some powerful group is driving this forward. A group for whom the destruction of the various peoples and their internal cohesion will be a benefit for them.
Only now have i found this video - nearly 2 years since it's publishing. A truly insightful understanding of the value of the sovereign nation-state - the alternative clearly delineated as a simple loss of freedom due to loss of trust. I'm not "nationalist" - i just want the pendulum to swing back towards the individual and decentralization because concentration of power is the most frightening to me.
People place an out-of-date meaning on the term 'nationalist'. The self-styled 'nationalists' of today just want to have a nation state. That's all. They don't want to become subjects of an empire to which they do not belong and over which they have no control.
My take on this is that it's not a question of either/or: some questions are best solved locally and the regional or state governments should not interfere. Some problems are best solved on a regional level, some are best solved nationally, and then there are some problems that are best solved supernationally or even globally. Only those issues should ever be given to international unions to decide about. Climate change, geopolitics and international trade are examples of issues that cannot be solved on a national level. If nations don't unionize and voluntarily choose to lend supremacy to the union, these issues will be left to the law of the jungle and gun boat diplomacy. That's all. The EU or other international bodies should never interfere with national, regional or local issues.
He spoke like a true patriotic British man. His honesty, trustworthiness, passion for sincere democracy is just admirable. I would class him as a statesman. Looks like our politicians have lost the way & got themselves tangled in the thick undergrowth of dangerous swamp infested with crocks & anacondas. They need to get their act together & proof to the British public that they are worthy to to represent us in an honest, transparent & sincere manner for the betterment of Great Britain & not just constantly think & manipulate the truth & give a twisted & unrecognisable entity, the only ones benefitting are them. Enlining their pockets with unthinkable wealth & their greed goes much further. They are betraying & colluding with a foreign cluster of nations (soon, if not already happen, lose their universal right to self rule & a total lost of national pride & national identity. We should get out, no deal no payment, cut our loses & look to greener, more rewarding, better deals & more honesty & openness. A brighter future for GREAT BRITAIN by the BRITISH PEOPLE for
Well if you go for a no deal you can rule out a trade deal with the US (as the House of Representatives has already stated that it will not allow a deal with a nation in breach of international law - Good Friday Agreement) and with the EU (third largest economy). Good luck with getting a favourable deal with China.
@@seanmoran6510 Even if he is friends with Douglas Murray, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I have friends that I think are yucky in some respects. They make up for it in other ways. I will admit that I was being unfair to Sir Roger, though. I was just reading second- or third-hand accounts of what he had said about homosexuality. I should really have made the effort to read his words, before jumping to conclusions.
All they understand is that Islam is against the Men they hate. The same Men who have built nations, homes, schools, hospitals, roads, etc. and provided these women with everything they have and enjoy, including their freedoms.
High Pressure - You’re a bigoted idiot Have you seen what Christian Evangelicals also have planned for women? Perhaps it’s illiberal thinking that is the issue & not Islam.
On British Democracy: "... our democracy does not proceed through plebiscites ..." except of course in the Brexit referendum which was constitutional change without checks and boundaries. On elected British politicians: " ... they are taking the issue forward on their own account and we can vote them out of office if they make mistake," which has been super successful with voting out the current Tory government and their myriad of mistakes. 06:10 That next sentence clearly defines Johnson's populist government and rule by dictator after cleverly diving the UK. I don't think that I've misrepresented what Scruton said. If I have I'm willing too be corrected, but what he is saying has failed to manifest itself and the checks and balances of FPTP have shown themselves to be weak and wobbly so that we have a lame duck PM who is hanging on with all the trappings of power yet continues to show no responsibility and we've destroyed the British Constitution on 'the will of the people' to regain sovereignty which we than gave away on dodgy trade deals.
well, seeing the state the UK is in less than a year in, this video should be titled "how to fuck it up completely academy" all aboard the good ship clusterfuck as it sails off in sewage infested waters in search of sunlit uplands!
I really like the poles they don't rape English girls generally (I'm sure there's some bad ones) it's the other community I don't like, the one we can't criticise.
@National Populist after the Scots and English had a fight and the Scots lost some of them went to fight in Poland, so it's very likely that many poles are actually Scottish and English anyway.
wow, a lot of words------check out the current state of what once was the pride of Britain , that even Margaret Thatcher wouldn't mess with.....of course, the sick and elderly can wait a proper time before making judgment-------Britain is NOT the same but in decline and "drastically" so. @@dootie8285
Never liked him. The speech has not aged well. Brexit is a disaster, tearing the country apart Balkanising the U.K. . The absolute opposite of what those that sold it claimed would happen.
...the answer? Lots and lots of immigration. Everybody welcome! Don't worry, the welfare state will cope. "Feed the world"... everyday is Xmas in the UK!
Scruton doesn't know (at 1:55 “And at every point they have refused to address it”) that the issue of the EU membership has been addressed constantly over the past decades in the UK parliament, and the UK has received numerous opt-outs because they addressed it and asked for (and got) them. He doesn't know (2:18 “Even though everyone knows they have been immune from amendation from the beginning.”) that the UK opt-outs were amendations. He can be forgiven, as he's not a legal expert, of not knowing (at 4:50) that it is exactly because the EU respected the UK Common Law system that many international companies chose to incorporate in the UK *because they could then fight court cases under the UK common law system*. In short, Roger is mostly uninformed, with in the end only a pie in the sky argument (in the long term it'll be great) coupled with the argument that Polish workers will cause a break-down in the trust the UK citizens have in one another.
R.I.P. Sir Roger. One of few rational thinkers who could express the mood of the majority of the British people as our elected representatives worked against our best interests.
"Rule from below, rather than dictatorship from above" What unbelievable nonsense and this man is lauded as someone who claims to know what he is talking about. Our Supreme Court is a perfect example of top down elitism.
he makes my point exactly about the nation state. Jean Monnet wanted to get rid of it. Nato and the democratic nation states kept the peace in Europe, not the EU which is presently creating political and economic tensions.
4:40, interesting. I always thought there were Acts of Parliament in the United Kingdom... Anglo-Saxon mythology at work, of course, the main argument in all the Brexit cockup.
He was precise and clear but one sided. How keeping a sense of identity through Brexit outweighs the benefits of being a member of the EU (e.g. cultural influx, scientific cooperation, common rules to settle conflicts)?
Surely co-operation on beneficial Scientific projects doesn’t require the “locked in” position of membership of the EU. It’s political willingness that’s required. Russia took a Brit up into space. International cooperation there. And common rules are indeed useful, probably why British Law and property rights are used by many companies to settle claims.
Who says that geography defines who we are, young people and people who have integrated lives within Europe think of themselves as European. I am a Yorkshireman, who is English and who is European. All 3 define me, they are not mutually exclusive.
Problem is some don't want you to mention the part of being English, Croat, French, etc... but only European, just like when Austrians were told by Nazis they should call themselves German.
At the end of the day, frankly after a lot of unconvincing reflexions by this respected intellectual, we need Brexit to have a few less Romanians on the bus. Is it worth it?
I don't find his pitch for a UK out of the EU particularly well thought. It comes across to me as the usual praise of British exceptionalism. Which is legitimate but, other than that, it sounds rather contradictory. Two points specifically: firstly, he says the founding fathers of the EU were wrong in considering the concept of nation-state as the primary cause of two world wars, and therefore like something dangerous that should be abandoned. Proof of it being that this concept is actually something very positive, if not necessary, because it gave British people an ideal to die for and that's how the UK was saved from invasion. Though he forgets to mention that it's also the same concept in the name of which Britain was attacked in the first place, and why so many Brits had to die. The argument of having something to die for (the nation-state), it's not valid because someone will eventually die. That's why it is better to organize things in a way that no war shall ever be plausible again, i.e. the European project that Sir. Scruton wanted to leave. Secondly, he says freedom of movement is a bad thing because it completely deprives weaker countries of their competent and educated class. Not so sure if that is true but, egoistically speaking, if there's a country which has benefited the most from freedom of movement, that country is the UK which, especially in the last two decades, has succeeded greatly in attracting some of the best from across Europe thus stimulating British economic growth.
mascara snake it could very well be, I just had a moment where I wanted to write something in English, though I don’t master it at all. I wish I could. Anyways, I don’t get your point, but you’re surely right, would you mind explain it?
1. Not a very good speaker... 2. Makes lots of assumptions and passive aggressive asides... 3. appeals to base nationalism... 4. ignores the actually history of english law which was created essentially by a top down system (lords, earls and the wealthy who controlled parliament) for most of its history and has favored this class (the wealthy) for most of its history and creates the mythical illusion of a past which was representative (and which was not). 5. ignores the down size of nationalism in europe (i.e. the endless wars which have consumed european history)... 6. made a good point regarding the effect of migration on eastern europe (i.e. best, brightest leaving) but failed to connect the dots (best and brightest moving into england there by stimulating eco growth), 7. was correct in identifying long term and short term goals but incorrect in assessment (i.e. idea that one can see long term outcomes clearer than short term lack intellectual rigger and is a straw man argument... it is always easier to predict short term outcomes than long term... long term has too many variables) 8. Did what most "conservatives" do and that is to recreate a history which never was and give the illusion that it can be recreated which it can not be. In the end, not impressed with either the content or the delivery. He seems to be famous for being able to string long words together which appeal to people who have money or illusions of past greatness... I give it to him for knowing his core audience... the pompous and the proud.
As much as I understand his rather romantic views of British history and law system he just closes his eyes to (even then) actual British politics and polititians attitude in the UK. He goes as far to bluntly ignoring the freedom that the EU has given its members to shape their own rules under the same umbrella. Otherwise why could Poland, Hungary, Austria and so many other countries have a different (far more rigid!) immigration policy than the UK - he just 'forgets' to mention that the Tories have chosen to have a rather open immigration policy - has nothing to do with the EU as so many false claims by the Tories! Why is that so? - the idea of the Tories was to give employers more choice for cheaper labour (from EU or Commonwealth countries) and to have British employees constantly under pressure when asking for better payment. Now he complaints about the immigration of his own making? He falsely accuses EU of inflexibility, knowing that the UK has approved and actively shaped 98% of all EU laws. That most of the laws protecting the environment, workforce and underdeveloped regions (including in the UK) though were watered down by the UK representatives he forgets to mention. Nevertheless he accuses the ones to wish to remain in the EU to pursue shortsighted, short term goals. Ignoring that actually Brexit is ignoring the fact of global economy and that actually that shortsightedness is what Brexit is as all about. It is a romantic view of past greatness and society mixed with the idea of having everything under control while randomly pushing buttons. Though with best intentions he is part of those who have created a rift in British society all along. Constantly blaming the EU for their own shortcomings and claiming achievements they firmly have opposed as long as possible until they where implemented and shown to be great (i.e. NHS, workers protection, environmental protection, a.m.o.) That he has been dismissed from the Tories actually shows how diluted his views of British politics (and even his own party) was and that he lived in a different world than today's polititians of the UK who can't care less! Unfortunately he will not be around to see the damage he has caused to the UK by his ignorance and the bad cause he has actively supported. Unfortunately there is no reset button to it...
I very much agree with Mr. Scruton that trust and social cohesion is fundamental to a society. This is also a reason why class differences should be minimized as they create distance between people which again leads to distrust between people.
this man is talking utter nonsense when talking about European law vs. British law, etc. and is wrongly stating that the EU institutions are imune to change while hanging on to a a super undemokratic election system in the UK. Oh, ... btw. - The EU commission and its head is elected by the EU parliament which is elected by the people of the soon 27 member states - and therefore hold accountable by the people...I find it quite repulisve to listen to this bollocks! I heard this man talking about music in another clip, complaining about the 'terror of pop music' - he is then praising Mozart, Bach, etc. (people who mostlikely wouldn't share his point of view), completely ignoring jazz, blues or contemporary music styles but advocates as a conservative for a form of politics that is responsible for scrapping music lessons around the UK, cutting funding and actively supporting those people within the music business being responsible for 99% of the music he feels terrorized by (not even sure if he could enjoy/understand a Stockhausen concert, though)...in German (language of most of his musical heros) people like him are called 'Schaumschlaeger' (I guess swashbuckler would be the closed translation)...oh- and for the 'collective trust' ('We're all in this together') of the UK society that he is praising so much - look at what austerity did to the UK and you know what you're up to...
If Roger also name-dropped *Kalergi* during his last point, it really would've made this short 9-minute argument significantly stronger than it already is.
Ever since law school, I knew this to be true (and it still is). We need adaptability of the common law system and not the rigidity of the civil law system. Well said Sir Roger. Let's not forget it is technically unconstitutional for a parliament to bind successors but the very nature of such treaties and arrangements has done that very thing.
@@SolvelawUk You should just reflect how is it possible for parliament having bound its successors in 1972 if parliament in 2017 passed an act to get us out of the eu. It is quite right to say that being in the EU limits parliament's power, but that's only because parliament decided to be part of the EU and everything attached to it.
@@LucasLima-sz4kg It boils down to whether the power, which was essentially lent to parliament by the electorate should have been given away permanently. But this is an academic question, and I am not an academic.
Sir Roger Scruton, NO, we do NOT elect the persons we choose to represent us in Parliament - we are given the choice between two or three career-politicians and are deterred from choosing our own candidates by the excessive £500 fee for standing and the large amounts of money available from Party funds to cover the costs incurred by the "Party" candidate for publicity and campaigning, which the independent candidate has to get out of his own pocket. The preselected "candidates" are generally complete strangers to the majority of the public and are usually voted for only because they "represent a political Party" that the voter prefers.
It must be awesome to be a moron like you. The Treaty of Rome of which he talks about is not even in place anymore. The EU Constitution is based on the Treaty of Lisbon, signed in 2009.
@@seanmoran6510 which invalidates his notion of 'immune to emendation' . He is very eloquent but sorely misinformed... or chooses to ignore major facts. What immigration is he talking about Muslims or Catholics ??? What a mess.
Roger Scruton is a right wing bigot, a liar and a cheater, not giving a single of his shit about people, which is why he stinks to high heavens. He's one of those dinosaurs who are going to get extinct very soon but he still thinks it's ok to leave an utter mess behind. Who does he think he is, Maria Antoinette? Pathetic old fart.
drperiwinkle I know enough about him to get the zest. Bloody old neo-classical buildings bla bla bla money for promotic smoking bla bla bla all the architects I like hate him with passion bla bla bla I've got better things to do with my life.
drperiwinkle That's what you got from my comment? Not the fact that he was getting money from tobacco companies to write articles promoting smoking? You are full of shit.
My original comment was prophetic. I said "He's one of those dinosaurs who are going to get extinct very soon but he still thinks it's ok to leave an utter mess behind. Who does he think he is, Maria Antoinette? Pathetic old fart." and then he died. Only the tobacco companies will miss him. And you.
I am sure Mr Sruton would despise my politics. I am a Communist, but l will miss his eloquence and erudition non the less, we need disenters of his quality more than ever.
He was just two weeks shy of seeing Britain leave the EU, such a shame. He would have seen it had Parliament not blocked our exit in October. I'll raise a glass to Sir Roger this Friday evening.
I really don't quite understand this man's appeal. He seemed to be afflicted with a pathologically victorian conviction that was both over-simplified and irrelevant to contemporary society (and probably to victorian society). His arguments are pompous and based entirely on preserving his white, middle class, heterosexual Christian identity while denying people who do not fall neatly into that particular category any cultural, political or legal legitimation.
Well articulated nonsense. Look at the UK as it is on migration: the EU had apart from some Polish nothing to do with it. UK identity is not threatened by the EU.
Merkel opened the floodgates autonomously to the dross of the world and then demanded that every EU country take their 'share' - even though none had been asked beforehand. The parasites then made their way across Europe to get to the UK, with a bit of help from the French at Calais turning a blind eye. So, it has EVERYTHING to do with the EU and we've bloody-well had enough of it.
@@englisht6549 To call people parasites; what would make that you? I could call you names rightfully now, but I will not. I just say you are not a thoughtful person that can be reasoned with. If you think numbers, then think again about the influx of UK's colonies. Peanut numbers compared with Calais.
Is he saying that statute law does not exist in the UK ? In 2019 reverse immigration is taking place as the prosperity the EU has brought to Poland takes root.
I am very sympathetic to his points, but I doubt if most supporters of Brexit truly accept the economic cost. Most people want to have their cake and eat it too. Economic expedience may come at at a very high cost. Witness the social cost of migration of low-price labor in USA.
Daniel Martin The problem with your assertion is that it is based on doubt. You “doubt” that we will like it outside the chicken coop, is what you are effectively saying. What we (the chickens) are saying is that we should like to try. 17.4 million chickens did in fact say that. What we are now being told is that, because of the doubts and fears of people like you, that we cannot leave the chicken coop, in spite of our wishes and it’s time for us to be shooed back in before we find out that we’re ok in the big bad world. So we won’t even try. So we’ll never know. So your assertion will never be proven, namely the assertion that we won’t like it when we get it.
R.I.P Sir Roger, traditional conservatism and values has lost a great voice and person.
@Russian Métropolitan I think your comment shows you have more in common with Nazis and bigots than Sir Roger Scruton ever did.
@Russian Métropolitan RIP Roger Scruton
TheBlueMan , absolutely . An icon .
Russian Métropolitan ,he was an erudite conservative . It’s useful to see its cultural expression so well articulated .
Traditional conservatism has conserved nothing. It's time for something sturdier.
At the age of 58, I have come to realise that almost no one knows what the hell they're talking about. Sir Roger is one of those that do - unlike the weak, virtue signalling Conservative party who recently fired him!
I've come too see something similar at 36. Best wishes
Absolutely right, David. Fully agree. Sir Roger was probably the most influential person in my journey from the left to sanity.
As a private citizen, Scruton can be quite effective at contextualising and simplifying the complexities involved. He has more latitude outside of a political context and can operate in his capacity as a credible philosopher of our time. Starkey, Scruton, Murray, Hitchens all have interesting things to say about our current time. As always, judge for yourself.
I agree that Scruton is very "deep". If you are into this kind of "deepness" I can recommend Martin Heidegger.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger
(I'm 63, so I win - or did I loose because I just committed a Godwin? -)
To recycle a comment:
In 1985 Roger Scruton was effectively ostracised from academia for the publication of his book Thinkers Of The New Left. Well, so called philosophers (guardian sophists?) such as A.C Grayling, Julian Baggini, Nigel Warburton, Stephen Law, seem to have done rather well for themselves... hardly stepping on toes. Only have to follow their twitter chambers to see how much in need academia is of an overhaul.
Notice how Sir Roger unfailingly relates his arguments in all of his lectures and video interviews back to the welfare of the UK rather than to the policy of a particular political party. Unlike most of our legislators, he has spent a lifetime reading, thinking, and writing about political philosophy and, therefore, speaks with a moral authority that mere elected office cannot confer. The principles he espouses are not new. They are found in the common law and embodied in the American Constitution. But they are too often ignored by liberals and forgotten by conservatives too intent on a political agenda. Sir Roger is above politics. More of our national leaders should be too.
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@Johannes Liechtenauer Third World? Hmm... your obvious ignorance is not surprising.
Or perhaps I'm wrong. What is the *Third World* ?
(While you're at it...google the second world...let me know what you come up with. And join the rest of us in the 21st century)
Liberals wrote the Constitution. Ask Roger.
Did great work promoting Japanese tobacco in Western media too. Morally solid chap! www.theguardian.com/media/2002/jan/24/advertising.tobaccoadvertising?fbclid=IwAR2fH1uw5KCncnYEk8WSvkVXKQwMmuqIabCf2NUQKpvMMc2SO-Whk-eokPE
"Above politics" is the perfect way to describe it. Politics is the seeking of power and he does not want power.
As an American, I must say that it is a complete honour and privilege to listen to this man!
As an american ... do you usually spell it thus - honour ?
@@jasbindersingh2441 he's just being polite
As an Irishman,I'll agree.The EU is bullshit..dictators!
@trident3b You must be a God among men
shadowdawg04 The myth that decisions are made by unelected officials is a just that .A myth and therefore undermines this mans credibility however eloquent his rhetoric
I can see now why Scruton was ousted the way he was. There's no way his insightful and complex thoughts could have ever, been tolerated be the "Woke" brigade, and I am using the term "brigade" purposefully
There are many within the Conservative party that are still genuinely conservative. There is a minority of conservatives that are fake conservatives and it is they who get the most media time and are present as the face of the party and they have the swing vote within the party.
+bighand69 Rubbish. There may be some actual genuine conservatives in the party but they are rare outliers. They nearly all read from the same bullshit zionist bankers book of domination.
+Ben Cox Because they are unelectable and unaccountable. Let them get on with it. Nothing any one country in the EU says will stop the ultimate goal. If you have not watched the Yuri Bezmenov video yet (a video from the 80's mind you) I suggest you do watch it. They want the EUSR. It won't work.
+Ben Cox I'm not sure what you don't understand at this point. Please comment after you have watched the Bezmenov video. They are all, ultimately, aligned in their goals. How the hell could an unknown like Macron get voted in to begin with? Britain may well get what it wants 97.8% of the time but it's for the reason aforementioned. This is old-hat at this point.
+Ben Cox I'm glad you think for yourself. Now all you have to do is forget about conspiracies and look at the hard data especially at demographics. I never mentioned Russians or Russian influence by the way as the Russians have been infiltrated by the same stuff which Bezmenov explains. Soros is just a puppet/front man. Also, 9/11 was a "conspiracy theory" remember? By the way, the CIA invented that term at about the same time operation mockingbird was being rolled out. Coincidence? I think not. More people have been imported into to this country since 1997 than natural immigration occurred between 1066 and 1997. Yes, 1066 the year of the Norman invasions. Coincidence? I think not. Adam Smith was a man of a different era as was John Locke. Follow the money.
So clear. So reasonable. So English.
So hypocritical. So right-wing nationalist. So xenophobic. So English.
@@LucasLima-sz4kg Just proving why we voted leave. Is that the best you have.
Lucas Lima here's a useful tip. Lucas: Dover this way 👉
@@LucasLima-sz4kg Is it an extreme thought to call for social cohesion between people of one nation? I think not. I say this as a socialist. We've been much too generous to allow all cultures to live within our European borders and as you see today, trust is nowhere to be found. This is plain reality. Step out of your echo chamber and join us in the real world.
@@DarkAngelEU Brexit is really "working out" now xD The UK chose distance in a world, where the West must stand together against autocratic governments like China and Russia. The UK cut itself off. This "special way" now results in a real loss of wealth and a chaotic political situation, which was foreseeable and warned about for years. Brexiteers lied about all of it massively.
You want no migrants? Well drive your trucks, build your buildings and nurse your old people yourself then.
Too sensible, too intelligent, too accurately relevant a speech for such a madhouse as modern Britain. Overpopulation and the crazy attitude towards mass immigration is ruining it for one and all.
Mass deportations are needed, we never needed it. It's for the (elite) like Barbara Lerner spectre, George Soros etc.
George Makedon
Keep taking the pills. You may get a red one to make it all better.
@George Makedon
The Un Reported History of Capitalist Christian Democracy
"The White Supremacists"....in the 20th and 21st Century.
Feed 2 BILLION people from starving to death for decades.
Created 1 BILLION brand new Middle Class human beings
in the China and India with "really BAD for White Supremacists" trade deals.
Defeated Nazi Germany in WW2, rebuilt Europe from the
ground up with BILLIONS of UN paid back
Marshall Plan White Supremacist tax dollars.
Defeated Marxist Communist USSR and PRC that
MURDERED 120 MILLION (minimum) by forced labor, starvation and disease.
Invented 90% of every industrial, technological and MEDICAL
improvement for the last 200 years.
Raised the Middle Class living standards for BILLIONS
of human beings beyond all human history.
"White Supremacist" Business & Criminal
(UK Courts)
Laws and Courts are the FAIREST and most HONEST Courts in the History of Humanity.
The ONLY (USA) Country in the World with specifically
written INDIVIDUAL Bill of Rights that include
the 1st, 2cd and 5th Amendments that PROTECT
the Rights of FREE Speech (including HATE SPEECH)
the Right to won a FIREARM comparable to ANY
Government or Military personnel weapon.
The RIGHT to REMAIN SILENT and NOT
Self IN criminate your self !
@George Makedon The Un Reported History of Capitalist Christian Democracy
"The White Supremacists"....in the 20th and 21st Century.
Feed 2 BILLION people from starving to death for decades.
Created 1 BILLION brand new Middle Class human beings
in the China and India with "really BAD for White Supremacists" trade deals.
Defeated Nazi Germany in WW2, rebuilt Europe from the
ground up with BILLIONS of UN paid back
Marshall Plan White Supremacist tax dollars.
Defeated Marxist Communist USSR and PRC that
MURDERED 120 MILLION (minimum) by forced labor, starvation and disease.
Invented 90% of every industrial, technological and MEDICAL
improvement for the last 200 years.
Raised the Middle Class living standards for BILLIONS
of human beings beyond all human history.
"White Supremacist" Business & Criminal
Laws and Courts are the FAIREST and most HONEST Courts in the History of Humanity.
The ONLY Country in the World with specifically
written INDIVIDUAL Bill of Rights that include
the 1st, 2cd and 5th Amendments that PROTECT
the Rights of FREE Speech (including HATE SPEECH)
the Right to won a FIREARM comparable to ANY
Government or Military personnel weapon.
The RIGHT to REMAIN SILENT and NOT
Self IN criminate your self !
Only after reading his book on Kant I understood how excellent and highly efficient philosopher he was. R.I.P sir Roger, I miss you.
The great Roger always has wisdom to share. Thanks.
It didn't aged very well this video
so rude of the others to interrupt while he is giving his speech!
Of course it was a woman ...
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 A woman in the role of the debate moderator. And Mr Scruton graciously accepted it.
He was saying that he wasn't sure he could say anything quite as succinct as the others, which made it sound as if he was going to talk for longer than them. The chairperson simply reminded him that he had a time limit. That is all. It was perfectly reasonable and within the proper remit of a person chairing a debate.
@@omp199 she interrupted him more than once, the second not excusable by her mod status. Anyway it wasn't necessary the first time.
@Jason Wong just my two cents but you're wreary wong
As eloquently as he put it, 7 years down the line I think it's fair to say that none of these arguments hold any water.
Hard to believe that nearly 3 years later, we still haven't left, despite the majority vote.
Unfortunately it's not hard to believe
(Part 2) the preservation & prosperity of THE UNITED KINGDOM. No foreign interference or colluding with politicians, lawyers,bankers, lords, wannabe gina lollobrigadas. These lot is in our very midst, sad to say but true.
If you've followed the news during these years you'll understand that there are very good reasons for that.
Interestingly enough, had brexiteers voted for TM's deal we would be out. Now there'll be no brexit, just take note of that.
@@LucasLima-sz4kg Theresa May's deal was Brexit in name only, and would have kept us under the thrall of the EU with even less say than we currently have. Just take note of that.
“Mass migration is the solvent of trust.” Truth succinctly and eloquently spoken.
Shame Brexit has nothing to reduce it. It happens because we need workers prepared to do jobs British people cannot or will not. We just swapped Indonesians for Romanians
@@jontalbot1 Which means Brexit wasn't the problem! The problem was/is the conservative party...aka Roger's Scruton party which was in power for 12 years now.
@@jontalbot1jobs British people won't do or jobs British people won't do for a pittance of a wage when they have mouths to feed? Ioanis can always go back to Romania where his £20,000 salary goes much further but Gary who intends on living in his homeland does not have the same luxury....
Yes, Roger has nailed it.
In what point exactly? When he, from the largest Empire and thieve nation of all time, bullshits about right to self-government? Or when he uses USSR and not USA as an example of immigration? Or when he talks about the Treaty of Rome, which is no longer in place? The man is an absolute idiot.
@@Liquiddnbftw the last thing i think is that brexit will be good for anyone, let alone for the average person.
Great man, as is Douglas Murray
@Worldwide Wabbit who is ? He's doing a good job, there's no real negative to that
Worldwide Wabbit CH or PH ?
Jack Clare I’m guessing CH
This is first time I've heard of Sir Roger Scruton.... Great speech! I look forward to listening to more and reading some of his material. Hopefully Brexit will happen sooner then later!
Welcome to Brexit Sir ! :)))))))
BRAVO ! ENCORE !
Tell me what The House of Lords in the UK does .....Rubber Stamp??????
Poland was Ireland 30 years ago. Where is it today .....One of the wealthiest nations. certainly in the top 10 and well ahead of the UK.
Most of those who didn't grasp it at the time have come to realize that Sir Roger's recent death was not only a tremendous loss not only to Britain and the Anglosphete but to the entire world.
His keenness of thought and his ability to express those thoughts with clarity interjected with occasional humor (including his unmatched ability at delivering self-deprecating comments
which were clearly undeserved) will be sorely missed. He was the best spokesman and exemplar for conservatism since William F. Buckley,Jr. Not to mention the fact that (call it old- fashioned, if you will) he was the very model of proper English Gentleman. Rest in peace, Roger. Although you may hav been too modest to realize, you made a difference - and what higher praise can one give a man?
his brilliant mind
It is a pleasure to observe how Sir Roger Scruton calmly enjoys the passage of the Kali Yuga holding a superb cup of tea. He just doesn't lose his temper, speaks like a legitimate nobleman and surfs the language like a slippery Welsh dragon: you can understand his point, but you can't accuse him of inelegance.
Thank you for your legacy, Mr Scruton.
so cringe 😬
No cringe, bro. I just paid my tribute to a brave European and Christian knight, proud of his culture and country. 😉
@@yyzzyysszznn learn how to be sincere. No-one thinks you're cool.
Such a gentle, thoughtful man. I wonder if the We hasn't already gone though. When someone talks about We British, I wonder who that is. I for one sometimes feel I am wandering round a bomb site in this society. If it still is a society.
And yet, isn't it the case that Germany, France, Belgium and so on are all facing the destruction from within of their nations, of the identity of their people, of the Hi-trust society (Scruton's We). Some powerful group is driving this forward. A group for whom the destruction of the various peoples and their internal cohesion will be a benefit for them.
We dont live in a society we live in an economy.
+Jean Anne The We is being replaced deliberately. But there is still a very big We... for now.
+Red Rover Red Rover We live in a nation. Nation means the people (latin Natio). The people of our nations are being replaced.
Brexit is like the hotel California, you can check out any time you want but you can never leave.
lol
@excollier114 Such a lovely place.
Only now have i found this video - nearly 2 years since it's publishing. A truly insightful understanding of the value of the sovereign nation-state - the alternative clearly delineated as a simple loss of freedom due to loss of trust. I'm not "nationalist" - i just want the pendulum to swing back towards the individual and decentralization because concentration of power is the most frightening to me.
hear hear
People place an out-of-date meaning on the term 'nationalist'. The self-styled 'nationalists' of today just want to have a nation state. That's all. They don't want to become subjects of an empire to which they do not belong and over which they have no control.
My take on this is that it's not a question of either/or: some questions are best solved locally and the regional or state governments should not interfere. Some problems are best solved on a regional level, some are best solved nationally, and then there are some problems that are best solved supernationally or even globally. Only those issues should ever be given to international unions to decide about. Climate change, geopolitics and international trade are examples of issues that cannot be solved on a national level. If nations don't unionize and voluntarily choose to lend supremacy to the union, these issues will be left to the law of the jungle and gun boat diplomacy. That's all. The EU or other international bodies should never interfere with national, regional or local issues.
May 2023. How's Brexit going? 😂😂😂
With Sir Roger's passing, his genius now weighs heavily upon us. The stakes are high. We must not let him down.
Wisdom is in short supply, Sir Rodger is one of the last bastions of that wisdom.
except, he speaks as if education in your country is powerless, or even non existent. isn't this ironic?
So wise he campaigned for the biggest con to the British population in living memory. How's Brexit going?
He spoke like a true patriotic British man. His honesty, trustworthiness, passion for sincere democracy is just admirable. I would class him as a statesman. Looks like our politicians have lost the way & got themselves tangled in the thick undergrowth of dangerous swamp infested with crocks & anacondas. They need to get their act together & proof to the British public that they are worthy to to represent us in an honest, transparent & sincere manner for the betterment of Great Britain & not just constantly think & manipulate the truth & give a twisted & unrecognisable entity, the only ones benefitting are them. Enlining their pockets with unthinkable wealth & their greed goes much further. They are betraying & colluding with a foreign cluster of nations (soon, if not already happen, lose their universal right to self rule & a total lost of national pride & national identity. We should get out, no deal no payment, cut our loses & look to greener, more rewarding, better deals & more honesty & openness. A brighter future for GREAT BRITAIN by the BRITISH PEOPLE for
Patriots like him will turn this great country called Great Britain into pastiche called Little England. He’s a traitor and he doesn’t even know it.
Where would you get these better deals? Is there any indication that you would get better deals?
Well if you go for a no deal you can rule out a trade deal with the US (as the House of Representatives has already stated that it will not allow a deal with a nation in breach of international law - Good Friday Agreement) and with the EU (third largest economy). Good luck with getting a favourable deal with China.
Roger Scruton great philosopher
Why? Tell me about his contribution to philosophy.
@@paulhalfpenny1139 I think his contribution to philosophy is, "Gays are yucky!" Truly one of the great intellectuals of our time.
omp199 Douglas Murray is Gay and his close friend
Paul Halfpenny Yeah whats he done !
Not as much as you no doubt !
@@seanmoran6510 Even if he is friends with Douglas Murray, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I have friends that I think are yucky in some respects. They make up for it in other ways.
I will admit that I was being unfair to Sir Roger, though. I was just reading second- or third-hand accounts of what he had said about homosexuality. I should really have made the effort to read his words, before jumping to conclusions.
Rest In Peace, Roger Scruton ❤️
May Sir Roger's soul rest in eternal peace. A great man.
Awsome man, nothing to add
Not even an !..?
You could have added an !
Thank you Sir
His voice of reason is an illuminating light in a very dark time
What cracks me up the most is how clueless lefty women have no idea what Islam intends for them...
All they understand is that Islam is against the Men they hate. The same Men who have built nations, homes, schools, hospitals, roads, etc. and provided these women with everything they have and enjoy, including their freedoms.
@alan bane I cannot disagree.
Roger Scruttons a racist, no wonder he wants brexit
High Pressure - You’re a bigoted idiot
Have you seen what Christian Evangelicals also have planned for women?
Perhaps it’s illiberal thinking that is the issue & not Islam.
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 You sound like a muslim from the XIX century btw.
On British Democracy: "... our democracy does not proceed through plebiscites ..." except of course in the Brexit referendum which was constitutional change without checks and boundaries.
On elected British politicians: " ... they are taking the issue forward on their own account and we can vote them out of office if they make mistake," which has been super successful with voting out the current Tory government and their myriad of mistakes.
06:10 That next sentence clearly defines Johnson's populist government and rule by dictator after cleverly diving the UK.
I don't think that I've misrepresented what Scruton said. If I have I'm willing too be corrected, but what he is saying has failed to manifest itself and the checks and balances of FPTP have shown themselves to be weak and wobbly so that we have a lame duck PM who is hanging on with all the trappings of power yet continues to show no responsibility and we've destroyed the British Constitution on 'the will of the people' to regain sovereignty which we than gave away on dodgy trade deals.
Excellent (and humble) speech.
Succinctly, beautifully and perfectly pitched. Economic considerations are at best secondary, perhaps tertiary. Or, at worst, they are irrelevant.
We're nearly there... well worth the wait - Best of Brexit to you and happy days!
Are you there already? 🤣
@@LegionarioCruel Surely. They took back control, and restored their sovereignity.
I regret not reading Sir Roger's works till after he died.I would have loved to see him speak in person.
Excellent, someone who talks truthfully and sensibly about the topic of Brexit. Thank you Sir.
To die at the end of such an brutal year for him is especially bitter.
well, seeing the state the UK is in less than a year in, this video should be titled "how to fuck it up completely academy" all aboard the good ship clusterfuck as it sails off in sewage infested waters in search of sunlit uplands!
I really like the poles they don't rape English girls generally (I'm sure there's some bad ones) it's the other community I don't like, the one we can't criticise.
@National Populist after the Scots and English had a fight and the Scots lost some of them went to fight in Poland, so it's very likely that many poles are actually Scottish and English anyway.
Starting from around 5:15 his point is just brilliant, and the delivery exemplary
If put to a vote today Brexit would win by an even wider margin because of voices like Scruton’s.
What about now?
too bad he wasn't here to see what wonders Brexit has wrought
wow, a lot of words------check out the current state of what once was the pride of Britain , that even Margaret Thatcher wouldn't mess with.....of course, the sick and elderly can wait a proper time before making judgment-------Britain is NOT the same but in decline and "drastically" so. @@dootie8285
Never liked him.
The speech has not aged well.
Brexit is a disaster, tearing the country apart Balkanising the U.K. .
The absolute opposite of what those that sold it claimed would happen.
Well said!
...the answer? Lots and lots of immigration. Everybody welcome! Don't worry, the welfare state will cope. "Feed the world"... everyday is Xmas in the UK!
@@robjob9052 - yeah yeah whatever- simpleton
@@stuartross6358 ...and I bow to your colossal intellect. Academic?
What a great speech ... who can argue with what is said?
Who can? Reality can. How's Brexit going? 😂😂😂
Scruton doesn't know (at 1:55 “And at every point they have refused to address it”) that the issue of the EU membership has been addressed constantly over the past decades in the UK parliament, and the UK has received numerous opt-outs because they addressed it and asked for (and got) them. He doesn't know (2:18 “Even though everyone knows they have been immune from amendation from the beginning.”) that the UK opt-outs were amendations. He can be forgiven, as he's not a legal expert, of not knowing (at 4:50) that it is exactly because the EU respected the UK Common Law system that many international companies chose to incorporate in the UK *because they could then fight court cases under the UK common law system*. In short, Roger is mostly uninformed, with in the end only a pie in the sky argument (in the long term it'll be great) coupled with the argument that Polish workers will cause a break-down in the trust the UK citizens have in one another.
I kinda thought the same. Very well put, his argument. But boiled down to the essence, he is saying: "well, immigration is bad"
Well thought-out and articulated.
Monet was wrong, most wars are about land an actual physical thing not an idea like a nation state.
This aged well lol
Thank you, sir, for all your honest thought and wisdom.
Please may God now protect and give you the peace you so deserve.
R.I.P. Sir Roger.
One of few rational thinkers who could express the mood of the majority of the British people as our elected representatives worked against our best interests.
So “rational" he supported/campaigned for the most stupid act of self harm since WWII: Brexit. What a shambles.
"Rule from below, rather than dictatorship from above"
What unbelievable nonsense and this man is lauded as someone who claims to know what he is talking about. Our Supreme Court is a perfect example of top down elitism.
Those who don’t understand business and politics don’t have a clue as to what real danger they’re in.
add History to that statement.
Michael Glynn I don’t even understand your comment!
Sir Roger is magnificent
I live in France and have been denounced for supporting Brexit, and a French restaurant owner was boycotted by Brits for displaying a union flag .
May 2023. How's Brexit going? Enjoying the unicorns and the sunlit uplands of "sovrintea"? What a shambles, what a disgraceful con.
Such a wise and eloquent speaker. RIP Sir Roger.
What a wonderful encapsulation of the Leave position.
extranewsfeed.com/50-dumb-fuck-reasons-for-leaving-the-eu-66a40c72c1da
@@arlosdad “Because the EU is anti-semitic.” Who gave this as a reason?
@@CitizenBeep Is that the only one that gave you pause for thought?
@@arlosdad One among many. The list is meaningless when the only source of most of these claims when googling them is the list itself.
he makes my point exactly about the nation state. Jean Monnet wanted to get rid of it. Nato and the democratic nation states kept the peace in Europe, not the EU which is presently creating political and economic tensions.
Excellent ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
4:40, interesting. I always thought there were Acts of Parliament in the United Kingdom... Anglo-Saxon mythology at work, of course, the main argument in all the Brexit cockup.
Beautiful. Great speech.
He was precise and clear but one sided. How keeping a sense of identity through Brexit outweighs the benefits of being a member of the EU (e.g. cultural influx, scientific cooperation, common rules to settle conflicts)?
@Reactionary Alchemist Please, put forward the arguments of your claim.
Surely co-operation on beneficial Scientific projects doesn’t require the “locked in” position of membership of the EU. It’s political willingness that’s required. Russia took a Brit up into space. International cooperation there. And common rules are indeed useful, probably why British Law and property rights are used by many companies to settle claims.
R.I.P. Sir Roger
I applaud the last three comments wholeheartedly!!
I feel the same way about the United Nations.
Guess we should all go back to killing each other again.
@@LucasLima-sz4kg What are you talking about? The killing has never stopped.!
Yeesh, it's impressive how confident and wrong a person can be.
Who says that geography defines who we are, young people and people who have integrated lives within Europe think of themselves as European. I am a Yorkshireman, who is English and who is European. All 3 define me, they are not mutually exclusive.
Problem is some don't want you to mention the part of being English, Croat, French, etc... but only European, just like when Austrians were told by Nazis they should call themselves German.
@@rodionraskoljnikov3803 stop going on about WW2 it's meaningless
At the end of the day, frankly after a lot of unconvincing reflexions by this respected intellectual, we need Brexit to have a few less Romanians on the bus. Is it worth it?
There will be less Romanians and more Afghans and Indians. Not that I have a problem with that, but I'm pretty sure the guy in the video has.
Pure class. No need to be histerical when you have such a gasp.
If you mean grasp I'll go along.
I don't find his pitch for a UK out of the EU particularly well thought. It comes across to me as the usual praise of British exceptionalism. Which is legitimate but, other than that, it sounds rather contradictory. Two points specifically: firstly, he says the founding fathers of the EU were wrong in considering the concept of nation-state as the primary cause of two world wars, and therefore like something dangerous that should be abandoned. Proof of it being that this concept is actually something very positive, if not necessary, because it gave British people an ideal to die for and that's how the UK was saved from invasion. Though he forgets to mention that it's also the same concept in the name of which Britain was attacked in the first place, and why so many Brits had to die. The argument of having something to die for (the nation-state), it's not valid because someone will eventually die. That's why it is better to organize things in a way that no war shall ever be plausible again, i.e. the European project that Sir. Scruton wanted to leave. Secondly, he says freedom of movement is a bad thing because it completely deprives weaker countries of their competent and educated class. Not so sure if that is true but, egoistically speaking, if there's a country which has benefited the most from freedom of movement, that country is the UK which, especially in the last two decades, has succeeded greatly in attracting some of the best from across Europe thus stimulating British economic growth.
You might want to read back what you wrote. You completely undermined your own argument.
mascara snake it could very well be, I just had a moment where I wanted to write something in English, though I don’t master it at all. I wish I could. Anyways, I don’t get your point, but you’re surely right, would you mind explain it?
1. Not a very good speaker... 2. Makes lots of assumptions and passive aggressive asides... 3. appeals to base nationalism... 4. ignores the actually history of english law which was created essentially by a top down system (lords, earls and the wealthy who controlled parliament) for most of its history and has favored this class (the wealthy) for most of its history and creates the mythical illusion of a past which was representative (and which was not). 5. ignores the down size of nationalism in europe (i.e. the endless wars which have consumed european history)... 6. made a good point regarding the effect of migration on eastern europe (i.e. best, brightest leaving) but failed to connect the dots (best and brightest moving into england there by stimulating eco growth), 7. was correct in identifying long term and short term goals but incorrect in assessment (i.e. idea that one can see long term outcomes clearer than short term lack intellectual rigger and is a straw man argument... it is always easier to predict short term outcomes than long term... long term has too many variables) 8. Did what most "conservatives" do and that is to recreate a history which never was and give the illusion that it can be recreated which it can not be. In the end, not impressed with either the content or the delivery. He seems to be famous for being able to string long words together which appeal to people who have money or illusions of past greatness... I give it to him for knowing his core audience... the pompous and the proud.
Brexist happened 3 weeks after his death. Omg this is so sad
As much as I understand his rather romantic views of British history and law system he just closes his eyes to (even then) actual British politics and polititians attitude in the UK.
He goes as far to bluntly ignoring the freedom that the EU has given its members to shape their own rules under the same umbrella. Otherwise why could Poland, Hungary, Austria and so many other countries have a different (far more rigid!) immigration policy than the UK - he just 'forgets' to mention that the Tories have chosen to have a rather open immigration policy - has nothing to do with the EU as so many false claims by the Tories!
Why is that so? - the idea of the Tories was to give employers more choice for cheaper labour (from EU or Commonwealth countries) and to have British employees constantly under pressure when asking for better payment.
Now he complaints about the immigration of his own making?
He falsely accuses EU of inflexibility, knowing that the UK has approved and actively shaped 98% of all EU laws.
That most of the laws protecting the environment, workforce and underdeveloped regions (including in the UK) though were watered down by the UK representatives he forgets to mention.
Nevertheless he accuses the ones to wish to remain in the EU to pursue shortsighted, short term goals. Ignoring that actually Brexit is ignoring the fact of global economy and that actually that shortsightedness is what Brexit is as all about.
It is a romantic view of past greatness and society mixed with the idea of having everything under control while randomly pushing buttons.
Though with best intentions he is part of those who have created a rift in British society all along. Constantly blaming the EU for their own shortcomings and claiming achievements they firmly have opposed as long as possible until they where implemented and shown to be great (i.e. NHS, workers protection, environmental protection, a.m.o.)
That he has been dismissed from the Tories actually shows how diluted his views of British politics (and even his own party) was and that he lived in a different world than today's polititians of the UK who can't care less!
Unfortunately he will not be around to see the damage he has caused to the UK by his ignorance and the bad cause he has actively supported. Unfortunately there is no reset button to it...
He could not see the Brexit done. I wish we had such corageous, balanced, intelligent, educated and articulated intelectuals in my country.
No muddled speaking here, bravo.. the truth can often be inconvenient to our masters.
I very much agree with Mr. Scruton that trust and social cohesion is fundamental to a society. This is also a reason why class differences should be minimized as they create distance between people which again leads to distrust between people.
this man is talking utter nonsense when talking about European law vs. British law, etc. and is wrongly stating that the EU institutions are imune to change while hanging on to a a super undemokratic election system in the UK. Oh, ... btw. - The EU commission and its head is elected by the EU parliament which is elected by the people of the soon 27 member states - and therefore hold accountable by the people...I find it quite repulisve to listen to this bollocks! I heard this man talking about music in another clip, complaining about the 'terror of pop music' - he is then praising Mozart, Bach, etc. (people who mostlikely wouldn't share his point of view), completely ignoring jazz, blues or contemporary music styles but advocates as a conservative for a form of politics that is responsible for scrapping music lessons around the UK, cutting funding and actively supporting those people within the music business being responsible for 99% of the music he feels terrorized by (not even sure if he could enjoy/understand a Stockhausen concert, though)...in German (language of most of his musical heros) people like him are called 'Schaumschlaeger' (I guess swashbuckler would be the closed translation)...oh- and for the 'collective trust' ('We're all in this together') of the UK society that he is praising so much - look at what austerity did to the UK and you know what you're up to...
Well Said Roger,the Truth is so rare to hear nowadays.
If Roger also name-dropped *Kalergi* during his last point, it really would've made this short 9-minute argument significantly stronger than it already is.
Ever since law school, I knew this to be true (and it still is). We need adaptability of the common law system and not the rigidity of the civil law system. Well said Sir Roger. Let's not forget it is technically unconstitutional for a parliament to bind successors but the very nature of such treaties and arrangements has done that very thing.
So u went to law school and didn't read Factortame? Crappy school u went to huh
@@LucasLima-sz4kg what has that got to do with my opinion. What I think is not necessarily how it is, unfortunately.
@@SolvelawUk You should just reflect how is it possible for parliament having bound its successors in 1972 if parliament in 2017 passed an act to get us out of the eu. It is quite right to say that being in the EU limits parliament's power, but that's only because parliament decided to be part of the EU and everything attached to it.
@@LucasLima-sz4kg It boils down to whether the power, which was essentially lent to parliament by the electorate should have been given away permanently. But this is an academic question, and I am not an academic.
@@SolvelawUk But how was it given away permanently if Parliament retained the power to trigger article 50 and get us out of the EU?
Make the UK great again: Brexit
Sir Roger Scruton, NO, we do NOT elect the persons we choose to represent us in Parliament - we are given the choice between two or three career-politicians and are deterred from choosing our own candidates by the excessive £500 fee for standing and the large amounts of money available from Party funds to cover the costs incurred by the "Party" candidate for publicity and campaigning, which the independent candidate has to get out of his own pocket.
The preselected "candidates" are generally complete strangers to the majority of the public and are usually voted for only because they "represent a political Party" that the voter prefers.
NO DEAL OUT OUT OUT.
Nationalism and sovereignty.....This will make Britain great again... Vote Brexit....
Wise, thoughtful man. - impressed by this speech
Being ruled by the long hand of the dead- 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
It must be awesome to be a moron like you. The Treaty of Rome of which he talks about is not even in place anymore. The EU Constitution is based on the Treaty of Lisbon, signed in 2009.
Lucas Lima Speaking of morons like yourself
The Lisbon Treaty builds on the Treaty of Rome
@@seanmoran6510 which invalidates his notion of 'immune to emendation' . He is very eloquent but sorely misinformed... or chooses to ignore major facts. What immigration is he talking about Muslims or Catholics ??? What a mess.
Roger Scruton is a right wing bigot, a liar and a cheater, not giving a single of his shit about people, which is why he stinks to high heavens. He's one of those dinosaurs who are going to get extinct very soon but he still thinks it's ok to leave an utter mess behind. Who does he think he is, Maria Antoinette? Pathetic old fart.
drperiwinkle I know enough about him to get the zest. Bloody old neo-classical buildings bla bla bla money for promotic smoking bla bla bla all the architects I like hate him with passion bla bla bla I've got better things to do with my life.
drperiwinkle That's what you got from my comment? Not the fact that he was getting money from tobacco companies to write articles promoting smoking? You are full of shit.
My original comment was prophetic. I said "He's one of those dinosaurs who are going to get extinct very soon but he still thinks it's ok to leave an utter mess behind. Who does he think he is, Maria Antoinette? Pathetic old fart." and then he died. Only the tobacco companies will miss him. And you.
I am sure Mr Sruton would despise my politics. I am a Communist, but l will miss his eloquence and erudition non the less, we need disenters of his quality more than ever.
He was just two weeks shy of seeing Britain leave the EU, such a shame. He would have seen it had Parliament not blocked our exit in October. I'll raise a glass to Sir Roger this Friday evening.
Shambles
I really don't quite understand this man's appeal. He seemed to be afflicted with a pathologically victorian conviction that was both over-simplified and irrelevant to contemporary society (and probably to victorian society). His arguments are pompous and based entirely on preserving his white, middle class, heterosexual Christian identity while denying people who do not fall neatly into that particular category any cultural, political or legal legitimation.
What's wrong with trying to preserve a white, middle class, heterosexual and Christian identity Philip?
June 2023 Update:
Brexit has been an absolute, unmitigated, fucking disaster.
Well articulated nonsense. Look at the UK as it is on migration: the EU had apart from some Polish nothing to do with it.
UK identity is not threatened by the EU.
Merkel opened the floodgates autonomously to the dross of the world and then demanded that every EU country take their 'share' - even though none had been asked beforehand. The parasites then made their way across Europe to get to the UK, with a bit of help from the French at Calais turning a blind eye. So, it has EVERYTHING to do with the EU and we've bloody-well had enough of it.
@@englisht6549 To call people parasites; what would make that you? I could call you names rightfully now, but I will not. I just say you are not a thoughtful person that can be reasoned with. If you think numbers, then think again about the influx of UK's colonies. Peanut numbers compared with Calais.
@@englisht6549 At least you're honest about being a racist fascist pig. I admire that.
He was in favour of Brexit because he doesn’t understand economics and has some dim witted ideas about British exceptionalism.
This Sceptic isle by Peter Hitchens
Definitely worth watching
Is he saying that statute law does not exist in the UK ?
In 2019 reverse immigration is taking place as the prosperity the EU has brought to Poland takes root.
Every word a gem.
I am very sympathetic to his points, but I doubt if most supporters of Brexit truly accept the economic cost. Most people want to have their cake and eat it too.
Economic expedience may come at at a very high cost. Witness the social cost of migration of low-price labor in USA.
Daniel Martin The problem with your assertion is that it is based on doubt. You “doubt” that we will like it outside the chicken coop, is what you are effectively saying. What we (the chickens) are saying is that we should like to try. 17.4 million chickens did in fact say that. What we are now being told is that, because of the doubts and fears of people like you, that we cannot leave the chicken coop, in spite of our wishes and it’s time for us to be shooed back in before we find out that we’re ok in the big bad world. So we won’t even try. So we’ll never know. So your assertion will never be proven, namely the assertion that we won’t like it when we get it.
@@georgemorley1029 There was never any doubt, brexit was always going to be a calamity.
Good speech. Very thoughtful. Touches to the core of what the society is and how it works.
Scruton is life.