I was in that BWL wipe. The warrior wasn't in comms, ripped threat, claimed he tried to petri, but still sent 4 executes at the boss, wouldn't run to the tank spot. Huge F's for Horde Depot and to my first 60 character.
@@johanlahti84 No only the player with Burning Adrenaline debuff can instant hearth, that only affects one mana user at a time. Essence of the Red, which everyone gets gives infinite mana, rage or energy.
What amazes me is the amount of people playing HC and then they just let mobs hit them in the back while running 😂 no attempt to jump and face them to mitigate some back hits
ever see a video of an animal being chased into a corner only for it to roll over and do nothing? thats what their brain is doing when they start feeling the pressure of immanent doom. choking haaaard.
It's just like people who go to church but can't quote a single bible verse. Most people don't join these things because they want to understand them or gain mastery over them. They join these things for the community.
4:23 Thats why you have melees on the other side since they are most likely to overaggro, and wont risk breath on caster grp, less risk of big casualties. Pretty terrible to overaggro on that boss on hardcore tho.
Yeah, I thought everybody did that? Only the warriors and rogues would have died. I messed up a PUG run like that on classic with my rogue because the tank for some reason could not hold threat even after I reset aggro after 5 seconds using the limited invulnerability potion + vanish All the melee died then the casters and I felt stupid. After the reset I was just looking at the threat meter and pressing backstab every 10 seconds so the tank could actually hold threat. I don't know wth he was doing
I feel like if your raiding on hardcore you just have to accept that eventually its going to end up in a raid wipe through bad RNG, a bad disconnect, whatever. Its just really likely that a mistake or unfortunate occurance will happen that will lead to everyone dying.
Guzu I can tell you what losing 30 raiders does in HC … we fucking GO AGANE and rebuild raid and we clear KT in 50 days!! Long live the Home Depot run!!! RIP to the boys in Horde Depot.
more than 4 mobs in that center room, two on each side but there is also a patrol or two that go through it and including the demon in the crystal. its rough, I tend to LoS clear it, even when I am higher level than the mobs. dont want some random pat sneaking up on you while you kill the demon.
Pika already getting that Hunter brain. Bro if your role is kite princess then you just shoot princess the whole time. She isn’t going to stay on you if you stop generating threat, healer will though.
I find it kind of wild that there are people in the raid who have quite clearly never done this boss before (one of the most sketchy bosses for agro deaths/breaths) are trying it for the first time in hardcore lol? These guys dont even have the proper positioning for this boss...a bit of google will save you hundreds of hours next time.
@@TD_JR Nono. My question is why didnt the dps who pulled threat turn the boss. I understand the fight's mechanics im just wondering why the dps didnt react. You dont need to be in coms to know that you cant be in front or behind the dragon. Playing hc you gotta know that Vael is gonna breathe on the raid u know what i mean.
@@CowsR4me Probably did it intentionally to grief and wipe the raid. No fucking shot you don't run threat meter and don't have your eyes glued to that in such a fight. Everybody knows you can't stand infront of a dragon, or its back. Definite sabotage
Almost like paying to play daily at end game too. When the only good content in wows history was classic leveling ofcourse people dont mind redoing it. Better than the one raid a year they release in retail😂
doubt that brother...we didnt mob tag a single one of those toons and that guild doesnt really have the gamers that have that kinda time also this was on defias pillager a dying server
Vael clip is so sick. Love watching the narcissists who play HC finally awake to the fact they are not the main character and will have some bs happen to them.
I am tempted to come back to wow after like 10 years and play some classic for 15$... But iam debating whether or not it will be fun or a waste of 15$ and my sanity 😅
You would probably have fun, look at it this way, is 15 much of a loss to you if you don’t like it? If it’s not then there’s no harm in trying, most things these days cost more than $15
True ... Just debating whether I spend 15$ on a steam game I haven't played or return and hope I fall into a pool of nostalgia and hope I don't get bored immediately@@MrJonboy
fornacait would have been fine if she would have just told her pet to hit the demon and that patrolling mage. but hey the name screams you make questionable choices already.
To all the smooth brains who play this game on hardcore. I salute your stupidity and lack of self respect (If you are a streamer who actually makes money, disregard this message)
Wow classic hardcore is the only challenging version of WoW. It's also the only version of WoW where having gear means something. I enjoy the high stakes and challenging environment. If you'd rather just die and keep respawning and having everyone in the same epic/legendary gear then that's your style.
I was in that BWL wipe. The warrior wasn't in comms, ripped threat, claimed he tried to petri, but still sent 4 executes at the boss, wouldn't run to the tank spot. Huge F's for Horde Depot and to my first 60 character.
Allowing people into hardcore raid without such basic thing as comms is a deathwish
That was intentional, Report him get his account banned.
Was that Warriors name Tinyviolin?
Was it ragtard or Gorskii
@@animalm4st3r Banned for playing poorly? wow toxicity reaching a new level. Get a grip.
He didn't auto attack the tauren. That's a huge missed steak indeed.
I died in that bwl...we all got drunk as fuck that night hahah
Why didn't you all just insta HS when he didn't move to tank spot?
@johanlahti84 how do you expect them to hearth in the 3 seconds it turned and killed all of them lmao
@@austingardner785 well because HS is instant with the buff you get at vael....
@@johanlahti84 No only the player with Burning Adrenaline debuff can instant hearth, that only affects one mana user at a time. Essence of the Red, which everyone gets gives infinite mana, rage or energy.
Well, the dude who ripped aggro and didnt even realize needs to be playing a different game LOL. That made me mad for you.
What amazes me is the amount of people playing HC and then they just let mobs hit them in the back while running 😂 no attempt to jump and face them to mitigate some back hits
90% of them don't even have a swing timer, so it really doesn't matter, you cant reliably strafe kite and not get dazed without a swing timer.
ever see a video of an animal being chased into a corner only for it to roll over and do nothing? thats what their brain is doing when they start feeling the pressure of immanent doom. choking haaaard.
Most are horrible players yeah
It's just like people who go to church but can't quote a single bible verse. Most people don't join these things because they want to understand them or gain mastery over them. They join these things for the community.
@@anthonyfaiell3263 bunch of polymorphs
4:23 Thats why you have melees on the other side since they are most likely to overaggro, and wont risk breath on caster grp, less risk of big casualties. Pretty terrible to overaggro on that boss on hardcore tho.
DPS players on average are pretty low IQ.
Was thinking the same thing down. My guild in HC has two groups for this reason
Yeah, I thought everybody did that? Only the warriors and rogues would have died. I messed up a PUG run like that on classic with my rogue because the tank for some reason could not hold threat even after I reset aggro after 5 seconds using the limited invulnerability potion + vanish
All the melee died then the casters and I felt stupid. After the reset I was just looking at the threat meter and pressing backstab every 10 seconds so the tank could actually hold threat. I don't know wth he was doing
I feel like if your raiding on hardcore you just have to accept that eventually its going to end up in a raid wipe through bad RNG, a bad disconnect, whatever. Its just really likely that a mistake or unfortunate occurance will happen that will lead to everyone dying.
That wasnt either of those. That was a skill issue or a grief
@3:30 it is in fact a reset angle, reset to brill.
Hahaha that has to be a grief on Vael, dude had ages to move and chose to sit still and kill the entire raid jc 🤣
Don't know what was worse the Mike Tyson fight or this! Haha!
Guzu I can tell you what losing 30 raiders does in HC … we fucking GO AGANE and rebuild raid and we clear KT in 50 days!! Long live the Home Depot run!!! RIP to the boys in Horde Depot.
more than 4 mobs in that center room, two on each side but there is also a patrol or two that go through it and including the demon in the crystal. its rough, I tend to LoS clear it, even when I am higher level than the mobs. dont want some random pat sneaking up on you while you kill the demon.
Poured one out for the Horde Depot Homies. You’ve lived up to the Home Depot name. Gratz boys! 😂
That for sure was a reset angle. A 100% complete reset angle.
32 times 200h Playtime, that's like 6400h accumulated playtime. Or 266 days.
You assume raiders have any life to lose to begin with hehe.
RIP HORDE DEPOT. Ratchet Yacht Club FAM
Pika already getting that Hunter brain. Bro if your role is kite princess then you just shoot princess the whole time. She isn’t going to stay on you if you stop generating threat, healer will though.
400 health at level 18 is wild😂
I was so ready for this
You can’t bring any dummies to a raid in hardcore. This was and has always been the problem with raiding, there’s always 1
10:03 this dude literally knows the abilities of every, single, rare mob, in the game. Tell me you are a wow andy without telling me
Tell me you're a new guzu watcher without telling me
@@antimitsu february 2021 :(
@@SupplyOfShorts fugg :(
There’s an add on that does that for you
You say like that's a bad thing. Classic is a beautiful game.
Funny how 1 raid wipe is just complete raid guild death in hardcore. All because of 1 overagro who's too lazy to move. Classic experience.
Your hc guild can break if your main tank dies.
For some reason seeing aoe farming mages die brings me tremendous joy!
Asmongold has approved this message!
atleast they can do ubrs after that wipe xD
I find it kind of wild that there are people in the raid who have quite clearly never done this boss before (one of the most sketchy bosses for agro deaths/breaths) are trying it for the first time in hardcore lol? These guys dont even have the proper positioning for this boss...a bit of google will save you hundreds of hours next time.
Hardcore is full of people who never played WoW before. Even outside of this streamer thing.
Hardcore brings a lot of new ppl to WoW. It’s a fun challenge. Although rather brutal to learn the game on for the average player/newbie
I raided well into Naxx before dying in HC as a new player to classic wow. You definitely can do it. But it does require a lot of research/prep
That bwl clip is wild, why wouldnt he turn the boss?
Because some idiot started DPS before the tank even had a shred of threat. That fight, if DPS just waits 3 seconds, then it's never an issue.
@@TD_JR Nono. My question is why didnt the dps who pulled threat turn the boss. I understand the fight's mechanics im just wondering why the dps didnt react. You dont need to be in coms to know that you cant be in front or behind the dragon. Playing hc you gotta know that Vael is gonna breathe on the raid u know what i mean.
@@CowsR4me I gotcha... even still, that's a raid lead call to ensure people know their role managing threat.
@@CowsR4me Probably did it intentionally to grief and wipe the raid. No fucking shot you don't run threat meter and don't have your eyes glued to that in such a fight. Everybody knows you can't stand infront of a dragon, or its back. Definite sabotage
Looks like they had the melee in the ranged pile, which is a bit odd.
Hardcore w/o Comms RIP
Blizz loves HardCore.... 30 die in a Dungeon..they go again..paying to play.... over and over
I play it on private servers. They handle disconnects waaaaay better too.
Almost like paying to play daily at end game too. When the only good content in wows history was classic leveling ofcourse people dont mind redoing it. Better than the one raid a year they release in retail😂
If you don't wanna listen to this goofball yap, the videos are called wow hardcore moments.
Onyxia cloaks for Vael? Maybe they should have had a little more game knowledge instead.
Onlyfangs will never run out of deahts, they are bad
Lol over 75 people. Throne can handle thousands. Both good games but wow really needs to fix their open world.
The 75+ people were just those in the guild. There were many many other people watching in-game who weren't in the guild. Hundreds.
Throne runs like shit bro plus its pay to win so im not sure i see ur argument
They'll just mobtag each other back up. These people have INFINITE TIime to play
doubt that brother...we didnt mob tag a single one of those toons and that guild doesnt really have the gamers that have that kinda time also this was on defias pillager a dying server
Vael clip is so sick.
Love watching the narcissists who play HC finally awake to the fact they are not the main character and will have some bs happen to them.
I am tempted to come back to wow after like 10 years and play some classic for 15$... But iam debating whether or not it will be fun or a waste of 15$ and my sanity 😅
You would probably have fun, look at it this way, is 15 much of a loss to you if you don’t like it?
If it’s not then there’s no harm in trying, most things these days cost more than $15
True ... Just debating whether I spend 15$ on a steam game I haven't played or return and hope I fall into a pool of nostalgia and hope I don't get bored immediately@@MrJonboy
fornacait would have been fine if she would have just told her pet to hit the demon and that patrolling mage. but hey the name screams you make questionable choices already.
F
Click bait. Not watching your vids again
To all the smooth brains who play this game on hardcore. I salute your stupidity and lack of self respect (If you are a streamer who actually makes money, disregard this message)
so no having fun unless you make money? If you can't handle losing a toon in HC doesn't mean others can't.
Wow classic hardcore is the only challenging version of WoW. It's also the only version of WoW where having gear means something. I enjoy the high stakes and challenging environment. If you'd rather just die and keep respawning and having everyone in the same epic/legendary gear then that's your style.
@@mechanix80 why i am still playing. kinda sucks that like most the guild got wiped tho :(.
i wasnt in raid still leveling.
bet you a league player
@@flyingwalrus7831 'bet you a'
Ironic.
Rogue vs classic frost mage? You are dead by rank 1 frost bolt. Nothing you can do.
The rogue won the first match. The mage might have been 6 levels lower or whatever, but he still had rank 1 frost bolt.
Good god, why does Ziqo talk so much shit? He plays the easiest class in the game and thinks he's incredible.
lmfao this 100%