@@damsquare-nh4md it was not fine at the time at all to anyone that knows anything about hockey ...just cus you liked the trade does not mean people that can skate liked it , i for 1 called it shit the moment i heard it
We got too many LD and lack of minutes effects Development. That said i'd move Matheson before Guhle,Hutson,Reinbacher or even Xhekaj. Thats with us ignoring Barron, Mailloux, Struble, Harris, and our Vets Savard/Kovy. Plus Adam Engstrom is in the Semi Finals of the SHL as a top 4 D at 20 years old . His Style and Personality is a lot like Lehkonen but the way he moves with the puck protecting it as he carries it end to end is all Subban. He's declared his intention to join Laval when his playoffs is done to join their run and start his Pro Ascension Captain Kony the 21 year old is averaging 22+ minutes and rising up the KHL ranks the more masss he puts on. Kostenko is one of the Russian AHL Equivalents best Defensman after spending last season in the KHL struggling the demotion has allowed him to find his game while adding some mass and the 21 year old is likely to start next year in the KHL but this time on a better team then Kunlan Redstar(ARZ of KHL) Long term we're set Short term we're set. I'd say trade the Vet's , get what you can. Invest in the youth and move them as needed But only sell them if you've let the Vet's go first We can always re-sign more if needed but for now its the kids time.
Last season Iginla was playing on a stacked team and was BARELY getting ice time and was on the 3rd and sometimes 4th line… that’s why he wasn’t producing much this season he actually got the chance to show what he could do… He’s also one of the youngest players in this draft…
We need D who play D Hutson>Mailloux Offensively by a lot and im a Mailloux guy Matheson >Mailloux offensively as well I'd even wager Guhle >Mailloux offensively. That said Xhekaj-Mailloux the twin Terrors is ideal even if Mailloux couldnt score. They we're a heck of a shutdown Duo
You don't win Cups with Ds all the same age, plus they'll make too much if they will pan out. Not now but in 2 to 3 years. You need older cheaper players that do the job.
Teams have different aged dmen cus they are all looking for guys who bring something a little different, habs dmen all already bring something a little different in their style of play to the table...sign them young for long term for cheaper like the atlanta braves did, forget the bridge contracts by pass them
@@oasisbeyond Muzzin, Voynov, Doughty,Johnson and Martinez were when LAK won their 2 cups in 4 years. So i dont know what you're talking about at all as its not rooted in reality. CHI with Keith, Seabrook, Hjarlmsson , Barker, and Byfluglien did it. They both signed Veterans known more for their Defensive Consistency and shot blocking to take the role's you need experience to accomplish without being a liability. Depends i guess on if you want 1 cup or many i guess?
We can’t just expect that they’ll only trade the D-men we are all ok with giving up, plus end up with a top-6 impact player. As Habs fans we have done this for decades… we refuse to entertain trading top prospects all the while wondering how we can never get a single point per game player. I absolutely adore Reinbacher, Guhle, Hutson, Mailloux and Xhekaj and would love to have all of them for 10+ years, but we just have to accept the fact that one of these guys is gonna have to be part of a package in a trade soon. No other player - ie Barron - is gonna command a good enough return. We still have oodles of D prospects beyond those five main guys, so as much as even I don’t like it, we have to muster up the guts to let someone go.
You're right. Just so so SO sad that HuGo gave away Lehkonen who is now a HUGE part of the Avs lineup, to bring in Barron who as you mention is practically worthless to us as a trading piece or anything else. Avs fans and management are *STILL* laughing their asses off about that complete fleece. While they bask in the glow of their Stanley Cup that they all credit Lehkonen for being the last final piece to winning.
I personally think that is the case (with being able to trade one of our top d prospects) but I think it is worth it, I think those guys are good enough to push a team to give us a really good piece.
It's pretty amazing going through all of these comments...and even vehemently disagreeing with certain ones. But despite various different opinions on details, the fact remains that our Habs are *absolutely LOADED* with layers deep of NHL caliber talent and prospects at all positions. Probably moreso than any other team in the NHL. The only real question at this point is how HuGo turns that into seriously elite players while avoiding giving away any more guys for less than they're actually worth. Because if they do it right, we could be Cup contenders for a decade. But it they f*** it up, we could equally likely be basement dwellers for a decade. Gonna be a fun ride!!
From what I have heard about Iginla, if he hits his ceiling he could be a exactly what the team needs. Lindstrom is my top choice however I will be shocked if he is still available when it is montreal's selection
I hate to say this because none have played an NHL game and I know is the Hutson Hype is going on! But to me, it’s hard to trade any of these dmen away until we see what they bring at the NHL level! Guhle should be untouchable as Xhekaj! Mallioux and Reinbacher bring size! Hutson is small! Yes maybe a pp specialist but can he play big minutes with his small frame and not get injured? Time will tell! I’m not sold on him that’s all I’m saying and until I’m proven wrong I’d sacrifice him for the big name forward we need!
Hutson is seemingly a great offensive D sort of like matheson i find just a little more shifty, not a smooth skater like matheson but still pretty fast and great hustle. Just my thoughts after the two detroit matchups, imo safe to say he’s untouchable at this point
I think that's stupid of you to say that Logan He's probably going to be one of the best defense out there. He can be a Shane Weber. Not as tough but aggressive and he has all the dynamics of the game. Never I would give up Hudson possibly reinbacher also Baron I would give up maybe Roy never. Logan, never this guy is a true star
Great show again fellas! If Tij and Cole were on a collision course going into the corner who would come out on top? I would take grit, over finesse, at the 2024 draft.
I fucking hope Montreal is looking at Tij Iginla… he’s exactly the type of player we need Character, Skill, Effort it’s all there good size, I really hope we draft em… He has first line potential in my opinion and at the very least good second line potential… with Montreals development recently I would bet the Habs would get the most out of Iginla….
@@oasisbeyond I’ve actually watched Iginla live 7 times this season… My grandparents live in Kelowna and I spend 2-4 months with them, I went and saw them in October and came back January 23rd… I saw 7 games while I was with my grandparents my grandfather loves hockey and that’s how me and him spend time with each other… November 3rd, November 4th, 25th, 29th, December 29th, 30th and January 10th was the last game I saw in person… I have also watched 40+ of his games on Apple TV with my subscription I get WHL games with CHL TV…. When it comes to Berkly Catton, Tij Iginla, Carter Yakemchuk I have seen a lot of their games some of them in person but most on TV, Iginla is the one player I watched in person a lot, I saw Yakemchuk in person, Catton on TV, Lindstrom when he was healthy I watched all of his games on CHL TV, I have also watched Zayne Parekh live twice because I live in Ontario and when he plays in Ottawa I go see him when I can… So yeah lmao when it comes to Iginla I have seen him live enough times and watched full games to know what I’m talking about when it comes to certain prospects especially Iginla… How many times have you watched him? I’m not the only one that believes Iginla is easily a top 10 pick Craig Button and Pierre McGuire said he’s a Top 10 prospect in this draft, Some scouts that haven’t updated their lists have said on podcasts that he’s a top 10 player, Grant MCcagg has him top 10 I believe as well and on my own personal list I have him 7th overall, which doesn’t mean much I’m not a professional scout, But I have been watching hockey for 25+ years and always loved paying attention to prospects in drafts and I do my own personal list for fun…
Just don't even bother about it. He's a 3rd or 4th liner at best. We already have *dozens* of those in the pipeline. What we don't have...and need...is one or two pieces of truly elite talent.
Matheson would be my move. he's a top 2 D, he's got term, he's on a good 5m contract, he plays PP and PK, if you need to throw picks at someone then fine but that's the player I move. Just as valuable as a "young player" is the Dependable Vet to mentor them. Iginla is a pick I had for that second first, maybe using the early 3rd to move up that position. could be worth it. I wouldn't pick him top 10... a big sleeper is Dean Letourneau... 160 points 6'7 , 210 pounds ... we really going to pass that up?
In your own words, "Just as valuable as a young player is the dependable vet to mentor them". Yes, absolutely! So why would we trade that proven dependable vet, rather than one of the 'young unproven prospects'?!?!?!?!?!
@@tonylloy327yes, I agree, I wouldn’t trade him for a unproven rookie. However, Matheson isn’t part of our teams long term rebuild. So in the event I HAD to trade a Defender to acquire a top 6 or top pairing forward my chopping block would have Matheson. I wouldn’t trade away our future over a guy we are keeping for maybe two more years… usually when you are getting something good what you are giving is going to sting too.
If MTL trades a Good D named MAILLOUX I dont think the Poutine eaters will like that.Plus....the marketing and jersey sells around a Good Queb local boy...Je suis Canadian francais Quebecquois poutine eater de Ville Lasalle, 10 min away from the Bell Centre, I would trade him to keep other dman but the situation tells me he is not the one leaving... love your hard work ! lacher Pas
Yes, undersized D almost never last. Imagine him getting caught out on a long shift with Caufield on his wing side. How do they get the puck out? I hope I'm wrong but you can't teach size on D. I worry Hutson is another Victor Mete.
Iginla 6 or 7 is not a reach… Kid has lots of skill and he’s gonna go top 10 especially if he keeps playing the way he has been in the playoffs… You can’t look at the points when looking at Iginla his shot is one of the best in this draft, He’s very smart, Lots of character… Good size, Iginlas game translates to the NHL better than Eiserman and Catton… Sure they are electric where they are not, But in the NHL lots of what they do won’t fly, Tij Iginla has the most relatable game out of the 3… Eiserman has an electric shot but that’s all he has every other part of his game is Meh… Catton’s game translates to the NHL pretty well, But he’s not great at using his body and he plays small and is small which we have enough of… Tij Iginla has good size, Good height, Amazing Shot, Great IQ, Good speed he has everything he’s not amazing at one thing he’s great at everything… Power Forward like his father, He’s exactly the type of player we need and with how well this organization has developed lately I would bet the Habs would get the most out of Iginla… He has First line potential and at the very least Good Second line potential… If the Habs are not able to draft Cayden Lindstrom then Tij Iginla would be my pick at 6 or 7… Unless Demidov falls which is not likely.
Damn right he is. He's who the Habs should take if Demidov isn't available. With a comment like that. It tells me you don't know what you are talking about 😅
I would rather keep Mailloux than Hutson even though I would want to keep both at this time. Do not trade any of your young offensive defencemen until we see how well they adapt to pro hockey
#1 NHL Comparison for me with Tij Iginla is Dylan Cozens. But if I had to choose not of a role model player then maybe Yevgeni Malkin? This dosent mean he will be like then or I think he even will but based on what I've seen I think thats what he could be. A 30-40 goal 80-90 point power forward with great IQ physicality and speed as a center. I think he will be the most complete player in this whole draft.
I’m OK with Iginla if that’s the end result, but as someone who lives in Medicine Hat where a kid who played half the season at 15 years old just dropped 97 points, I just don’t have the same excitement for Tij that some do. Speaking of Medicine Hat, something kinda red-flag-like has been going on with Cayden Lindstrom. After a hand injury in practice the day after Christmas, and then a “back ailment” that was apparently not new kept him out until Game 1 of the playoffs. He had 1G 1A in two games, which is fine, but then scratched himself after warmups for Game 3 and was invisible in Game 4. Tigers are down 3-1 now to a weaker team and so Lindsrom might have one game left this season. Hard to know what to do with him at the draft when he’s played 4 games in four months.
Maybe instead of a defense, you package Beck and mesar with the loads of picks we have and upgrade the forward. If we ran Suzuki,dach, newhook, Evans for c's that's a pretty stacked middle
Looks alright, yeah. Except for Dach! He won't ever play a full season. Never has, waaaaay back into Junior. Great talent, love the kid, love his attitude, but a stupid move by HuGo to gamble that his injury prone-ness would somehow disappear.
But YES...package Beck and Mesar and Barron and Kovasevic and as many draft picks as it takes, to bring in a truly elite forward to play with Suzuki/Caufield/Slaf. THEN we'd be in good shape on the 'rebuild'. What we do NOT need is any more 3rd line forwards. We could stock 5 teams with all of those that we have right now.
The D each need a look in the NHL, then a focused development period. Guhle is the most proven as a top 4, and still developing, keep him. Struble, Harris, Baron, Arber all have had great tryouts to place them as marketable or depth D men. Baron might have the highest ceiling after Guhle. Logan M. needs to be kept and given a chance as per his size toughness and fresh development. Hutson could be great trade bait as the Habs have enough offensive D men of better size.
I don’t think Guhle is going anywhere but a top 6 forward will be an expensive trade. Byram was the price to get Middelstadt out of Buffalo so Habs will most likely part with someone who we’d rather not see go. Habs management needs to get this trade right
because we are winning too much lately, the Habs will have to trade picks or players to move up, we need Cayden Lindstrom!, he could be a player like Slav Height 6'4" Weight 216 lbs
Early 2nd round as it stands. like a dozen Credible 1st round D options Unlike years past its LD and RD with Offensive and Defensive D with Size and some with Speed. Its a vast range of options. Many cant agree who's in the top 20 or where as some have Levushunov as # 2 some as #12 and the same is said for Dickinson and Silayev among others. Further down the more it gets like this. As such guys like Eiserman who was pretty much a consensus top 3 pick to start the year isnt close to being in that position now to the point top 10 is in question. Liam is most likely going to go top 3 in the 2nd round though but baring some crazy playoff numbers i just do see him beating out the others
@@billy981 definitely not 2nd. he's almost universally ranked after the top 10 but before #20. with sportsnet being the only place ranking him above 20, at #21. and with how he performed on hte spitfires, and being a captain, I woudlnt be suprised if he sneaks into the top 10. if Montreal somehow ended up with a 8th or 9th overall I'd want them to take Greentree.
Iginla will be a goal scorer… He has 5 goals in 3 playoff games so far… He has first line potential and has great character like his father… His game translates well to the NHL, You can’t pay attention to his stats that much you have to watch how he plays and players like him have a good chance at becoming something special in the NHL….
Tij Iginla will be a first/second line Power forward that can give you 30-40 goals 60-80 points I draft that all day long before Eiserman and Catton… I don’t give a crap about regular season superstars, Iginla will win you a cup… Eiserman plays like a Girl, Catton is fun to watch but won’t be able to pull off the stuff he does in Junior in the NHL and won’t be a physical player… Iginla may not be a 80+ point player but he will be a goal scorer and will help you win a playoff series… Lindstrom won’t be available but he’s the only forward I would take over Iginla… Demidov I’m not too sure about because of the league he plays in…
Apparently we were 1 number away from winning the Bedard sweepstakes last year, so let’s keep our fingers crossed for some good fortune come draft lottery time. We need it; I love Slaf, but it hurt for us to finally get the #1 pick in a year that was widely considered the weakest draft class in a long while…
I could see them trading Guhle. My concern with him is that we've seen other 20 year old stud dmen before. i.e. Subban and Phaneuf. However, neither of them ever improved and both started their old-age regression in their mid to late 20's. All players start to slow down as they age, but they started that decline super early and were out of the NHL in their early 30's.
Honestly if a top dman is available in the draft and only a top 6 fwdnlt a top line fwd I'd take the D and trade that D the value would be so much higher and they'd get something better than whoever they would draft at fwd
Like I said on this channel many many times, this is the perfect example of sometimes too much is just like not enough. The habs drafted way too many defensemen in the same age group , and this will cause the habs a bad evaluation of some of them and a low return in almost all of the ones the habs will be forced to trade as a result of not having the space for all f them People who swallow all of the garbage hype of montreals media only hear about Hutson and reinbacher while Engstrom is far superior. There’s also Nurmi who isn’t making much noise but this guy is a beast. The habs are also totally wasting or just destroyed Trudeau and norlinder development even though they were the best defensemen at training camp And really mis handled Barron who was 3rd amongst right handed defenseman for goals after 36 games with 7 goals . Way to destroyed the little of value that guy had built up.🤦♂🤦♂ All these defensemen won’t get the proper exposure to maximize their value and as of right now, none of them have enough value to fetch a first line player in a trade , including Guhle. The congestion on defense could turn into a disaster.
We just need to trade dvorak and harris and we have more than enough cap to sign a 2nd line winger for a couple years. We dont need a superstar to come steal a spot from our top guys who are all progressing. Caufield suzuki slafkovsky F/a dach anderson(hopefully he wakes up) Roy newhook armia pinard evans gallagher Matheson guhle Hutson savard Xhekaj mailloux or reinbacher Kovacevic
Trade ghule and pick 25ish for a very solid top 6 player and draft parekh,silayev or levshunov at 7. It's not that I don't like ghule he just has the best market value of our proven nhl defenseman and we have an abundance of left defenseman so we need to make room for Hutson to be our next top defenseman. Matheson,Hutson,xhekaj,Savard,reinbacher and parekh/levushnov is a solid mix of size,speed,skill and experience. You also still have harris and barron if one or two of the rookies needs extra time in laval.
I wonder if Tij will keep growing to his father's size? 6'1" 210 lbs would be good. Another guy Habs might have an eye on is Zeev Buium who apparantly is now 6'2 while being a great defenseman.
Not likely Iginla grows to 6’1 but I could see him staying at 6’0 and getting to 190+ pounds… Also if the Habs really want to draft and offensive D it should be Parekh or Yakemchuk…. both of them have higher offensive potential and project to be better than Buium.
@@tylerlussier1896His biirthday is in August he might still grow an inch and gaining 25 lbs is no big deal from 17 to 21 years old. Can't wait to see Bob Mckenzie's last list before the draft, There are so many closely rated players.
No… Will Smith in my opinion is not a Centre in the NHL… Most likely he becomes a winger a Danmmm good one lol but not a C… I would not move Guhle at all… He can skate, He’s physical, Protects his teammates… Guhle is not a guy you trade he’s a guy that wins you cups lmao… if we trade Guhle we are going to be saying “we never should have moved Guhle”… we do not have another Guhle in the system and no Adam Engstrom is not even close to the level of Guhle, Doesn’t have the size, Not as physical he’s still physical but not the level of toughness Guhle has, Skating not as good as Guhle… I would trade Struble, Harris, Engstrom before Guhle… We have the assets and defenders to trade for a top 6 player without having to move Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux like these guys are going to be our Top 4 for YEARS to come you don’t move that lmao… We are gonna end up like the leafs if we move those players lol… Defence wins championships, The Habs are going to get a star/superstar forward in this draft we don’t need to be moving Ds like Guhle it makes no sense at all UNLESS we are getting a player back that is a proven superstar and even then we are going to be missing Guhle…
@tylerlussier1896 Reinbacher is exactly what Guhle does better. We don't NEED him and probably will say those things. But personally I would rather a probable 90 point superstar to fill out top 6 and weak point and get rid of our strong suit in defenseman.
Hate to say it, because I love him to death, but maybe that's not such a bad idea. He would still command some strong return on the trade market, but from everything that I'm seeing this season he'll never be that 40 goal guy we were all hoping for, and he is not a first-line winger on any Stanley Cup contender. But geeezz I hope I'm wrong!!!!
If Dach can stay healthy he’s going to surprise a lot of Habs fans in my opinion… He has the potential to rival Suzuki if he can stay healthy… Personally I would keep Suzuki as our 1 C just because dach will never have as good as a Two Way game as Suzuki, But Offensively Dach is going to surprise a lot of people he’s going to be an amazing second line C… Newhook yes is a 3rd liner if we are contending…
@@tylerlussier1896First line's taken , Dach in 2 , likely with Newhook , eventually Newhook on 3rd line , let's hope we land a couple or at least 1 natural 40 goal scorer .
Yep, they are! Always have been, always will be. There is no more upside in either of them beyond marginal second line, and likely third line with an occasional sniff on the PP. We need ELITE scoring talent. No more accumulating dozens of 3rd line prospects! Geezzuss!!
Have we forgotten about the mistake with trading Sergachev already?!! We should absolutely NOT trade Hutson or Reinbacher before we see them play pro.
You are right..dont forget about the mcdonugh for gomez trade to ...trade matheson
Hutson needs to be traded.
Stop already with the meme. The Sergachev trade was fine WHEN IT WAS MADE. It's easy to judge in hindsight.
@@damsquare-nh4md it was not fine at the time at all to anyone that knows anything about hockey ...just cus you liked the trade does not mean people that can skate liked it , i for 1 called it shit the moment i heard it
@@jjevans1693 only if he does not want to sign...other then that id rather see matheson harris barron kovecevic savard and strubble trades
Montreal has enough picks to acquire a damn good forward without giving away your proven young guns.
We got too many LD and lack of minutes effects Development.
That said i'd move Matheson before Guhle,Hutson,Reinbacher or even Xhekaj.
Thats with us ignoring Barron, Mailloux, Struble, Harris, and our Vets Savard/Kovy.
Plus Adam Engstrom is in the Semi Finals of the SHL as a top 4 D at 20 years old .
His Style and Personality is a lot like Lehkonen but the way he moves with the puck protecting it as he carries it end to end is all Subban. He's declared his intention to join Laval when his playoffs is done to join their run and start his Pro Ascension
Captain Kony the 21 year old is averaging 22+ minutes and rising up the KHL ranks the more masss he puts on. Kostenko is one of the Russian AHL Equivalents best Defensman after spending last season in the KHL struggling the demotion has allowed him to find his game while adding some mass and the 21 year old is likely to start next year in the KHL but this time on a better team then Kunlan Redstar(ARZ of KHL)
Long term we're set
Short term we're set.
I'd say trade the Vet's , get what you can.
Invest in the youth and move them as needed
But only sell them if you've let the Vet's go first
We can always re-sign more if needed but for now its the kids time.
Last season Iginla was playing on a stacked team and was BARELY getting ice time and was on the 3rd and sometimes 4th line… that’s why he wasn’t producing much this season he actually got the chance to show what he could do… He’s also one of the youngest players in this draft…
The only way I see any of them traded it's to move up to #1 pick
LOGAN MAILLOUX should be untouchable, Montreal needs a high scoring defenseman.
Mailloux should be given a shot next year!
We need D who play D
Hutson>Mailloux Offensively by a lot and im a Mailloux guy
Matheson >Mailloux offensively as well
I'd even wager Guhle >Mailloux offensively.
That said Xhekaj-Mailloux the twin Terrors is ideal even if Mailloux couldnt score.
They we're a heck of a shutdown Duo
Trade matheson harris barron kovecevic ...leave xhejai guhle hutson reinbacher and mailoux alone
You don't win Cups with Ds all the same age, plus they'll make too much if they will pan out. Not now but in 2 to 3 years. You need older cheaper players that do the job.
Teams have different aged dmen cus they are all looking for guys who bring something a little different, habs dmen all already bring something a little different in their style of play to the table...sign them young for long term for cheaper like the atlanta braves did, forget the bridge contracts by pass them
@@oasisbeyond Muzzin, Voynov, Doughty,Johnson and Martinez were when LAK won their 2 cups in 4 years. So i dont know what you're talking about at all as its not rooted in reality. CHI with Keith, Seabrook, Hjarlmsson , Barker, and Byfluglien did it.
They both signed Veterans known more for their Defensive Consistency and shot blocking to take the role's you need experience to accomplish without being a liability.
Depends i guess on if you want 1 cup or many i guess?
Hands off Guhle ! He's one of the best at his young age..
We can’t just expect that they’ll only trade the D-men we are all ok with giving up, plus end up with a top-6 impact player. As Habs fans we have done this for decades… we refuse to entertain trading top prospects all the while wondering how we can never get a single point per game player.
I absolutely adore Reinbacher, Guhle, Hutson, Mailloux and Xhekaj and would love to have all of them for 10+ years, but we just have to accept the fact that one of these guys is gonna have to be part of a package in a trade soon. No other player - ie Barron - is gonna command a good enough return. We still have oodles of D prospects beyond those five main guys, so as much as even I don’t like it, we have to muster up the guts to let someone go.
You're right. Just so so SO sad that HuGo gave away Lehkonen who is now a HUGE part of the Avs lineup, to bring in Barron who as you mention is practically worthless to us as a trading piece or anything else. Avs fans and management are *STILL* laughing their asses off about that complete fleece. While they bask in the glow of their Stanley Cup that they all credit Lehkonen for being the last final piece to winning.
I personally think that is the case (with being able to trade one of our top d prospects) but I think it is worth it, I think those guys are good enough to push a team to give us a really good piece.
FLorian Xhekaj is playing like Eric Lindros,Canadiens dont need anything
Too early to say who Montreal will pick. In the past they have kept their cards close to their chest. They will draft someone will skill though.
Watched Iginla tonight in Kelowna. He’s going to be a great goal scorer in the NHL.
It's pretty amazing going through all of these comments...and even vehemently disagreeing with certain ones. But despite various different opinions on details, the fact remains that our Habs are *absolutely LOADED* with layers deep of NHL caliber talent and prospects at all positions. Probably moreso than any other team in the NHL. The only real question at this point is how HuGo turns that into seriously elite players while avoiding giving away any more guys for less than they're actually worth.
Because if they do it right, we could be Cup contenders for a decade. But it they f*** it up, we could equally likely be basement dwellers for a decade. Gonna be a fun ride!!
Finally they start talking sense. Draft Iginla 2.0, don't even think twice about it.
From what I have heard about Iginla, if he hits his ceiling he could be a exactly what the team needs. Lindstrom is my top choice however I will be shocked if he is still available when it is montreal's selection
Lindstrom makes me nervous, lots of injuries already, this why I would prefer Iginla, among many other reasons.
I hate to say this because none have played an NHL game and I know is the Hutson Hype is going on! But to me, it’s hard to trade any of these dmen away until we see what they bring at the NHL level! Guhle should be untouchable as Xhekaj! Mallioux and Reinbacher bring size! Hutson is small! Yes maybe a pp specialist but can he play big minutes with his small frame and not get injured? Time will tell! I’m not sold on him that’s all I’m saying and until I’m proven wrong I’d sacrifice him for the big name forward we need!
Hutson is seemingly a great offensive D sort of like matheson i find just a little more shifty, not a smooth skater like matheson but still pretty fast and great hustle. Just my thoughts after the two detroit matchups, imo safe to say he’s untouchable at this point
Love your podcast. I really like Brerkley Catton, but how does he compare with Nick Suzuki at his draft year?
I think that's stupid of you to say that Logan He's probably going to be one of the best defense out there. He can be a Shane Weber. Not as tough but aggressive and he has all the dynamics of the game. Never I would give up Hudson possibly reinbacher also Baron I would give up maybe Roy never. Logan, never this guy is a true star
A year premature for a trade like this.
If the habs trade Hutson reinbacher or mailloux I’ll be pissed
Great show again fellas!
If Tij and Cole were on a collision course going into the corner who would come out on top? I would take grit, over finesse, at the 2024 draft.
6'ft 200 is not small! Same as fire hydrent at 5'10 210
I fucking hope Montreal is looking at Tij Iginla… he’s exactly the type of player we need Character, Skill, Effort it’s all there good size, I really hope we draft em… He has first line potential in my opinion and at the very least good second line potential… with Montreals development recently I would bet the Habs would get the most out of Iginla….
And how many games have you watched him? Most of media haven't seen most of these players play full seasons it's just word of mouth.
@@oasisbeyond I’ve actually watched Iginla live 7 times this season… My grandparents live in Kelowna and I spend 2-4 months with them, I went and saw them in October and came back January 23rd… I saw 7 games while I was with my grandparents my grandfather loves hockey and that’s how me and him spend time with each other… November 3rd, November 4th, 25th, 29th, December 29th, 30th and January 10th was the last game I saw in person… I have also watched 40+ of his games on Apple TV with my subscription I get WHL games with CHL TV…. When it comes to Berkly Catton, Tij Iginla, Carter Yakemchuk I have seen a lot of their games some of them in person but most on TV, Iginla is the one player I watched in person a lot, I saw Yakemchuk in person, Catton on TV, Lindstrom when he was healthy I watched all of his games on CHL TV, I have also watched Zayne Parekh live twice because I live in Ontario and when he plays in Ottawa I go see him when I can… So yeah lmao when it comes to Iginla I have seen him live enough times and watched full games to know what I’m talking about when it comes to certain prospects especially Iginla… How many times have you watched him? I’m not the only one that believes Iginla is easily a top 10 pick Craig Button and Pierre McGuire said he’s a Top 10 prospect in this draft, Some scouts that haven’t updated their lists have said on podcasts that he’s a top 10 player, Grant MCcagg has him top 10 I believe as well and on my own personal list I have him 7th overall, which doesn’t mean much I’m not a professional scout, But I have been watching hockey for 25+ years and always loved paying attention to prospects in drafts and I do my own personal list for fun…
Florian xhekaj scoring has went up 180% since he was drafted
Just don't even bother about it. He's a 3rd or 4th liner at best. We already have *dozens* of those in the pipeline. What we don't have...and need...is one or two pieces of truly elite talent.
Good i like Iginla
Wait another season before moving a dman. You don't want to trade your best dman and we don't know who that is yet.
Lindstrom
Matheson would be my move. he's a top 2 D, he's got term, he's on a good 5m contract, he plays PP and PK, if you need to throw picks at someone then fine but that's the player I move. Just as valuable as a "young player" is the Dependable Vet to mentor them.
Iginla is a pick I had for that second first, maybe using the early 3rd to move up that position. could be worth it. I wouldn't pick him top 10...
a big sleeper is Dean Letourneau... 160 points 6'7 , 210 pounds ... we really going to pass that up?
Who’s playing Matheson’s minutes then?
@@tylerpalmer8136Exactly👍
@@tylerpalmer8136 Guhle.
Guhle - Savard
Wifi - mailoux
Struble - kovi
I mean seems pretty simple to me?
In your own words, "Just as valuable as a young player is the dependable vet to mentor them". Yes, absolutely! So why would we trade that proven dependable vet, rather than one of the 'young unproven prospects'?!?!?!?!?!
@@tonylloy327yes, I agree, I wouldn’t trade him for a unproven rookie. However, Matheson isn’t part of our teams long term rebuild. So in the event I HAD to trade a Defender to acquire a top 6 or top pairing forward my chopping block would have Matheson. I wouldn’t trade away our future over a guy we are keeping for maybe two more years… usually when you are getting something good what you are giving is going to sting too.
Just got back from the rockets win tonight. Tij got another snipe. He's looking pretty amazing. I would be stoked for him to be a habs.
If MTL trades a Good D named MAILLOUX I dont think the Poutine eaters will like that.Plus....the marketing and jersey sells around a Good Queb local boy...Je suis Canadian francais Quebecquois poutine eater de Ville Lasalle, 10 min away from the Bell Centre, I would trade him to keep other dman but the situation tells me he is not the one leaving... love your hard work ! lacher Pas
I think he's from Ontario...
Il a mangé trop de poutine, le pauvre ….
I’d trade Hutson before guhle or reinbacher
Yes, undersized D almost never last. Imagine him getting caught out on a long shift with Caufield on his wing side. How do they get the puck out? I hope I'm wrong but you can't teach size on D. I worry Hutson is another Victor Mete.
I agree!
thye arent drafting iginla 6 or 7, its a reach
Yeah i don't know why they mention him all of a sudden
Iginla 6 or 7 is not a reach… Kid has lots of skill and he’s gonna go top 10 especially if he keeps playing the way he has been in the playoffs… You can’t look at the points when looking at Iginla his shot is one of the best in this draft, He’s very smart, Lots of character… Good size, Iginlas game translates to the NHL better than Eiserman and Catton… Sure they are electric where they are not, But in the NHL lots of what they do won’t fly, Tij Iginla has the most relatable game out of the 3… Eiserman has an electric shot but that’s all he has every other part of his game is Meh… Catton’s game translates to the NHL pretty well, But he’s not great at using his body and he plays small and is small which we have enough of… Tij Iginla has good size, Good height, Amazing Shot, Great IQ, Good speed he has everything he’s not amazing at one thing he’s great at everything… Power Forward like his father, He’s exactly the type of player we need and with how well this organization has developed lately I would bet the Habs would get the most out of Iginla… He has First line potential and at the very least Good Second line potential… If the Habs are not able to draft Cayden Lindstrom then Tij Iginla would be my pick at 6 or 7… Unless Demidov falls which is not likely.
Damn right he is. He's who the Habs should take if Demidov isn't available. With a comment like that. It tells me you don't know what you are talking about 😅
we have enough defence prospects so we need to draft a skilled forward
I would rather keep Mailloux than Hutson even though I would want to keep both at this time. Do not trade any of your young offensive defencemen until we see how well they adapt to pro hockey
#1 NHL Comparison for me with Tij Iginla is Dylan Cozens. But if I had to choose not of a role model player then maybe Yevgeni Malkin? This dosent mean he will be like then or I think he even will but based on what I've seen I think thats what he could be. A 30-40 goal 80-90 point power forward with great IQ physicality and speed as a center. I think he will be the most complete player in this whole draft.
I agree Mailloux could be the best asset to trade if the return is a top line winger
I’m OK with Iginla if that’s the end result, but as someone who lives in Medicine Hat where a kid who played half the season at 15 years old just dropped 97 points, I just don’t have the same excitement for Tij that some do. Speaking of Medicine Hat, something kinda red-flag-like has been going on with Cayden Lindstrom. After a hand injury in practice the day after Christmas, and then a “back ailment” that was apparently not new kept him out until Game 1 of the playoffs. He had 1G 1A in two games, which is fine, but then scratched himself after warmups for Game 3 and was invisible in Game 4. Tigers are down 3-1 now to a weaker team and so Lindsrom might have one game left this season. Hard to know what to do with him at the draft when he’s played 4 games in four months.
This is why I would pass on Lindstrom, unfortunately.
If you’re looking for scorer sign a free agent like Marshesault
Maybe instead of a defense, you package Beck and mesar with the loads of picks we have and upgrade the forward. If we ran Suzuki,dach, newhook, Evans for c's that's a pretty stacked middle
Looks alright, yeah.
Except for Dach! He won't ever play a full season. Never has, waaaaay back into Junior. Great talent, love the kid, love his attitude, but a stupid move by HuGo to gamble that his injury prone-ness would somehow disappear.
But YES...package Beck and Mesar and Barron and Kovasevic and as many draft picks as it takes, to bring in a truly elite forward to play with Suzuki/Caufield/Slaf. THEN we'd be in good shape on the 'rebuild'. What we do NOT need is any more 3rd line forwards. We could stock 5 teams with all of those that we have right now.
The D each need a look in the NHL, then a focused development period. Guhle is the most proven as a top 4, and still developing, keep him. Struble, Harris, Baron, Arber all have had great tryouts to place them as marketable or depth D men. Baron might have the highest ceiling after Guhle. Logan M. needs to be kept and given a chance as per his size toughness and fresh development. Hutson could be great trade bait as the Habs have enough offensive D men of better size.
If Iggy gives 100% like his Dad, cant go wrong.
I don’t think Guhle is going anywhere but a top 6 forward will be an expensive trade. Byram was the price to get Middelstadt out of Buffalo so Habs will most likely part with someone who we’d rather not see go. Habs management needs to get this trade right
Leaning toward Lindstrom ...maybe Eiserman ...size and skill ..!! Do not pick a d-man !! We need scorers !!
Trade Harris / Barron return may not be huge but I’d be ok with parting with those 2 looking at what’s coming.
ELC’s also give better cap flexibility
because we are winning too much lately, the Habs will have to trade picks or players to move up, we need Cayden Lindstrom!, he could be a player like Slav
Height 6'4"
Weight 216 lbs
We have a cupboard full of prospects, focus on developing them . Let their talents make this an easier decision
what's your guys' thoughts on Liam Greentree?
Early 2nd round as it stands.
like a dozen Credible 1st round D options
Unlike years past its LD and RD with Offensive and Defensive D with Size and some with Speed. Its a vast range of options. Many cant agree who's in the top 20 or where as some have Levushunov as # 2 some as #12 and the same is said for Dickinson and Silayev among others. Further down the more it gets like this.
As such guys like Eiserman who was pretty much a consensus top 3 pick to start the year isnt close to being in that position now to the point top 10 is in question.
Liam is most likely going to go top 3 in the 2nd round though
but baring some crazy playoff numbers i just do see him beating out the others
@@billy981 definitely not 2nd. he's almost universally ranked after the top 10 but before #20. with sportsnet being the only place ranking him above 20, at #21. and with how he performed on hte spitfires, and being a captain, I woudlnt be suprised if he sneaks into the top 10. if Montreal somehow ended up with a 8th or 9th overall I'd want them to take Greentree.
I'd take Eiserman over Tij, we already have Slafkovsky and lets also leave him to the flames
No
Take the top goal scorer we haven’t had one since forever the one thing we really need is offence
Iginla will be a goal scorer… He has 5 goals in 3 playoff games so far… He has first line potential and has great character like his father… His game translates well to the NHL, You can’t pay attention to his stats that much you have to watch how he plays and players like him have a good chance at becoming something special in the NHL….
Hutson, Guhle and Reinbacher aren't going anywhere.
I would pick Demisov, Lindstrom, Catton and Eizerman before Iginla, but he's very fun to watch !
Lindstrom yes, the other guys aren't Hab material.
@@dougiesherwin9591 we dont need Hab material, we need superstar! to finaly get over the hump.
Tij Iginla will be a first/second line Power forward that can give you 30-40 goals 60-80 points I draft that all day long before Eiserman and Catton… I don’t give a crap about regular season superstars, Iginla will win you a cup… Eiserman plays like a Girl, Catton is fun to watch but won’t be able to pull off the stuff he does in Junior in the NHL and won’t be a physical player… Iginla may not be a 80+ point player but he will be a goal scorer and will help you win a playoff series… Lindstrom won’t be available but he’s the only forward I would take over Iginla… Demidov I’m not too sure about because of the league he plays in…
@@tylerlussier1896Iginla 40 goals, 80 pts eh....more like a 25G, 65 pt guy at best.
@@tylerlussier1896 I agree with everything you say. But I'm hoping for a move up in the lottery to get Lindstrom.
Apparently we were 1 number away from winning the Bedard sweepstakes last year, so let’s keep our fingers crossed for some good fortune come draft lottery time. We need it; I love Slaf, but it hurt for us to finally get the #1 pick in a year that was widely considered the weakest draft class in a long while…
Call me crazy but I would like to have Bedard. Kings got Gretzky …
I know, I’m dreaming …
I could see them trading Guhle. My concern with him is that we've seen other 20 year old stud dmen before. i.e. Subban and Phaneuf. However, neither of them ever improved and both started their old-age regression in their mid to late 20's. All players start to slow down as they age, but they started that decline super early and were out of the NHL in their early 30's.
No
Not true most dominant players in their 30
Honestly if a top dman is available in the draft and only a top 6 fwdnlt a top line fwd I'd take the D and trade that D the value would be so much higher and they'd get something better than whoever they would draft at fwd
The important point you made about Tij Iginla is that he's "smart." If the Habs don't get a lucky ping-pong ball bounce, he's their guy.
I want Berkly Catton!!
They will trade eventually when they make a push. Just reality to sign a free agent or something before trade deadline.
You to not trade Hudson or the Sheriff anyone else I would and the first pick
Nobody knows who the Habs have in mind except for the Habs.
Would go for Lidstrom. Don’t trade Arber though. Anyone else got to bite the bullet.
Like I said on this channel many many times, this is the perfect example of sometimes too much is just like not enough.
The habs drafted way too many defensemen in the same age group , and this will cause the habs a bad evaluation of some of them and a low return in almost all of the ones the habs will be forced to trade as a result of not having the space for all f them
People who swallow all of the garbage hype of montreals media only hear about Hutson and reinbacher while Engstrom is far superior. There’s also Nurmi who isn’t making much noise but this guy is a beast. The habs are also totally wasting or just destroyed Trudeau and norlinder development even though they were the best defensemen at training camp
And really mis handled Barron who was 3rd amongst right handed defenseman for goals after 36 games with 7 goals . Way to destroyed the little of value that guy had built up.🤦♂🤦♂
All these defensemen won’t get the proper exposure to maximize their value and as of right now, none of them have enough value to fetch a first line player in a trade , including Guhle.
The congestion on defense could turn into a disaster.
NFW the Habs trade any of these three, unless the return is someone with proven talent.
Harris, Barron, Mailloux yes.
Not them. Trade Mailloux and 2025 first, 2026 first. I’d rather that than trade some of our potential top d.
We just need to trade dvorak and harris and we have more than enough cap to sign a 2nd line winger for a couple years. We dont need a superstar to come steal a spot from our top guys who are all progressing.
Caufield suzuki slafkovsky
F/a dach anderson(hopefully he wakes up)
Roy newhook armia
pinard evans gallagher
Matheson guhle
Hutson savard
Xhekaj mailloux or reinbacher
Kovacevic
I prefer Liam Greentree overvl Iggy 2
If the Habs draft Parech, Hutson will be traded for a Forward!
Anybody else think Florian might have a better NHL career then Arber?
Both are superstars
Bottom line: None of you guys is a GM.
What if they take another RHD this year in the draft and trade Reinbacher plus picks for a star level young forward?
anyone thinking they know what Kent H will do this off season is reaching or just plain click baiting us.
If he trade hutson and 1 pick for Léon drasat
Im ok with that but not reinbacher
Eisermann is better
Dave Pagnotta's take is just a big pile of merde.
Iiggy Roy xhekaj is acming!
Trade ghule and pick 25ish for a very solid top 6 player and draft parekh,silayev or levshunov at 7. It's not that I don't like ghule he just has the best market value of our proven nhl defenseman and we have an abundance of left defenseman so we need to make room for Hutson to be our next top defenseman. Matheson,Hutson,xhekaj,Savard,reinbacher and parekh/levushnov is a solid mix of size,speed,skill and experience. You also still have harris and barron if one or two of the rookies needs extra time in laval.
Tij would be a great pick at 7-8 for the Habs,
I wonder if Tij will keep growing to his father's size? 6'1" 210 lbs would be good.
Another guy Habs might have an eye on is Zeev Buium who apparantly is now 6'2 while being a great defenseman.
Not likely Iginla grows to 6’1 but I could see him staying at 6’0 and getting to 190+ pounds… Also if the Habs really want to draft and offensive D it should be Parekh or Yakemchuk…. both of them have higher offensive potential and project to be better than Buium.
@@tylerlussier1896His biirthday is in August he might still grow an inch and gaining 25 lbs is no big deal from 17 to 21 years old. Can't wait to see Bob Mckenzie's last list before the draft,
There are so many closely rated players.
Tij Iginla sounds like another Shane Wright.
Are you serious?
He will be like his father.
Guhle and a 1st for Will Smith?
No… Will Smith in my opinion is not a Centre in the NHL… Most likely he becomes a winger a Danmmm good one lol but not a C… I would not move Guhle at all… He can skate, He’s physical, Protects his teammates… Guhle is not a guy you trade he’s a guy that wins you cups lmao… if we trade Guhle we are going to be saying “we never should have moved Guhle”… we do not have another Guhle in the system and no Adam Engstrom is not even close to the level of Guhle, Doesn’t have the size, Not as physical he’s still physical but not the level of toughness Guhle has, Skating not as good as Guhle… I would trade Struble, Harris, Engstrom before Guhle… We have the assets and defenders to trade for a top 6 player without having to move Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux like these guys are going to be our Top 4 for YEARS to come you don’t move that lmao… We are gonna end up like the leafs if we move those players lol… Defence wins championships, The Habs are going to get a star/superstar forward in this draft we don’t need to be moving Ds like Guhle it makes no sense at all UNLESS we are getting a player back that is a proven superstar and even then we are going to be missing Guhle…
@tylerlussier1896 Reinbacher is exactly what Guhle does better. We don't NEED him and probably will say those things. But personally I would rather a probable 90 point superstar to fill out top 6 and weak point and get rid of our strong suit in defenseman.
Naaa...Will Smith lost all respect when he did the half-assed bitch slap thing at the Oscars. 😂
Trade Caufield... as well.
Hate to say it, because I love him to death, but maybe that's not such a bad idea. He would still command some strong return on the trade market, but from everything that I'm seeing this season he'll never be that 40 goal guy we were all hoping for, and he is not a first-line winger on any Stanley Cup contender.
But geeezz I hope I'm wrong!!!!
Dach , Newhook are 2nd or 3rd liners , keep Mailloux
If Dach can stay healthy he’s going to surprise a lot of Habs fans in my opinion… He has the potential to rival Suzuki if he can stay healthy… Personally I would keep Suzuki as our 1 C just because dach will never have as good as a Two Way game as Suzuki, But Offensively Dach is going to surprise a lot of people he’s going to be an amazing second line C… Newhook yes is a 3rd liner if we are contending…
@@tylerlussier1896First line's taken , Dach in 2 , likely with Newhook , eventually Newhook on 3rd line , let's hope we land a couple or at least 1 natural 40 goal scorer .
Yep, they are! Always have been, always will be. There is no more upside in either of them beyond marginal second line, and likely third line with an occasional sniff on the PP. We need ELITE scoring talent. No more accumulating dozens of 3rd line prospects! Geezzuss!!
@@tonylloy327 And if they ever get the ELITE scoring talent , I can see Caufield sliding to second line .🤷🏻♀️
or possibly trading Caufield and a D can bring you back a top ELITE scorer ,and YES i would make that trade.
NO, none of those three…..try again….