I honestly believe Apple added the 64 GB of RAM or unified memory, to make “Pros” feel better. It’s basically impossible to hit 32 GB usage on these new Apple silicone and have any real world impact, but people would freak out if they didn’t see 64 GB.
@@Richard_Lutz it smashes 8k workloads right now, maybe 12k but can handle even that and that is +5years away at minimum for regular workflows for most things is overkill.
@@ktms1188 Not sure it smashes 8k timelines but I think it can play back 8k? 64gb will be useful because M1 has changed the potential for our current software. So softwares will start to be able to use more efficient practices
This was great! Thank you! I have the max 16” 32 core 32 gb 1 tb. I put it through a stress test that I would never do. Not even half of the memory used. 17 streams of 4k on 4k timeline. All have various effects that are GPU heavy (base grade and stylize and blurs) All while streaming a movie and 9 tabs open on chrome watching RUclips hdr tests…. Never went past 19gb of memory with ZERO swap. Was a little nervous about not going 64gb but won’t run into trouble unless your dealing exclusively with 6k raw(which this one handles) or 8k+ (haven’t tested on this) hope this helps… Oh btw had a maxed out 14in and swapped it for the 16in mainly for that display and what makes sense for me
Thank you! Very informative comparison. I’m in need of an upgrade for a lot of editing I have planned from using a DJI Mavic 3 Cine. Also, GO COUGS! You have a new subscriber.
Thanks, good review. After spending 3 days on reviews, I opted for the m1 pro with 32GB of RAM. I was torn between m1 pro and max only to get 64GB or RAM but went with the pro as there seems to be more battery drainage with the max due to the cores always taking more power. I dont do any graphic tasks, just computing, so hopefully this is more than enough for next years
Glad I could help. Feel free to ask any questions that you might have. I have the 10-core CPU and 24-core GPU. However, I recently ordered the fully maxed out M1 Max MBP. Video comparing the two will be released once I compare the two computers.
Main thing many of us are seeking are what the battery drain, fan noise and heat in those Max chips vs Pro. The cost to jump from pro to max is $200. People are willing to pay it unless it causes fans to blaze, heat to increase and battery drain suffer.
@@aurelielibar5657 the same. I was going to take 14" m1 max (24 core), but after viewing through a bunch of videos and threads on reddit it seems that 14" isn't really that good for m1 max chip. The battery, I think, isn't the main problem, but the noise in some tests is really loud. A couple of days ago I was in the store to compare both sizes and 14" is really good and comfortable for me (cause for more professional work I'll use external monitor btw). Idk, but 14" model looks more aesthetic. But despite all its pros, I think I'm going for a 16" version because of temperature and noise. In the same stress tests while 14" spins coolers at about 4500 rpm (which is pretty audible), 16" is just for 2000-2300 rpm... If you have now another opinion - say please. It would be interesting for me to read that, cause I'm still trying to make the right decision
I’m planing getting the Sony A7s iii and Canon Eos r5 which editing system should I go for , Mac book pro M1 max or iMac m1 or Pc configuration, which would you suggest? And computer specs
That's a tough question. I think it really comes down to the codec of the footage. I just sold my GH5 and was shooting 300 Mbps with it. I got the mid-teir MBP and I wish I spent the extra $600 to have the best one. My recommendation would be try and get the most you money can buy. The reality is your computer could outlast the cameras that you're shooting with. Also, you never know if you're going to find yourself working with raw footage. A lot of prosumer cameras are now shipping with raw capabilities.
To what extent does the better thermal performance of the 16 inch actually matter in terms of graphics handling (like with effects and stuff when editing)
Solid video, thanks for making it! I usually edit high quality 4K video but don't do much more (like opening 4-5 heavy apps at the same time). I'm going for the 16 inch, 24 core GPU 32GB of RAM with 1TB SSD, I can't imagine need more!
First off, why 10 hours? That is an extremely long video and it is going to take a long time to render. With that in mind you're going to want to pretty beefy machine. Regardless, it could take quite some time to get through. Lastly, what are your analytics saying do you expect people to stay engaged for that period of time? My honest reaction without seeing your channel or your analytics is that you will have a tough time keep people engaged for a long period of time. I could be wrong tho.
Glad to hear it. I went with Option 2 as well, but I'm not sure how I feel about it. Just purchased the maxed out M1 Max Macbook Pro. I'm planning on doing a few tests with it to compare which is the right computer for me. I'll share my thoughts when I get the computer in March.
Fantastic video. My use case is Sony FX6 and A7SIII 4K footage on the same PP timeline (either H264, H265 or pro res) with durations from 1-30 mins. My conclusion is your option 2 but perhaps with 2TB SSD to take advantage of the speed?
That is a good question. Personally, I don't like to leave assets on my internal drive. I think an 2 TB SSD would be great tho. How do you like the FX6 and A7SIII? I need to upgrade cameras soon.
@@Richard_Lutz they are a superb combination for my two camera interview set up with the a7sIII on a slider at a wider angle which can be removed for b-roll shots
I think you can get by a little better on 16GB than your friend suggests. We know from the original M1 that it will start to have issues with long 4 multicam timelines. But with these faster hard drives and faster memory access, the penalty for 16 GB seems to be much less. From the only example I have seen, the penalty for exports seems to be only a couple percent. Where it was more like 15% on the original M1. I would rather spend that money on a 2 TB SSD. If you think that you need the 32GB, go max for only another $200. If you are doing this amount of heavy video files, you should be making real money to pay for this.
Valid point. I guess the thing that I'm trying to evaluate is the abundance of all these affordable cameras capable of shooting 4K+ at 10-bit. RED files at 8K scare me the most.
@@drsmith1988 Thanks for the feedback. I doubt I'm I'm going to get one anytime soon. However, I would rather be safe than sorry the difference between the fist and second option I outlined was only $200.
Is it really necessary to upgrade to 32 GB Ram with these new shared memory? Does a let´s say 1 hour FCPX-Projekt run significantly faster (e.g. Exporting), or ist the difference not worth the money? by the way: many thanks for your informative video
You're welcome! I really don't know if 32 gb of ram is needed. I'm trying to be very thoughtful about future workflows and what we could expect in 5 or 6 years. I'm also a Premiere editor.
The 14” M1 Max 10core cpu 32core gpu 32gb ram for easy traveling, video editing with multiple layers of (4k 24/30/60/120fps) footage and luts, is a sweet spot and keeps you at $3299
They throttle the 32core on the 14 inch because of smaller fans. You can see it in some of the reviews from MaxTech. If somebody were to get a a 14" and they wanted the power sweet spot I would suggest the 24core
Literally EVERY single M1 Mac comparison/review centers around video content creators. Guess what, only a tiny minority of Mac users fit in that niche. Is that the only thing these computers are useful for?
I honestly believe Apple added the 64 GB of RAM or unified memory, to make “Pros” feel better. It’s basically impossible to hit 32 GB usage on these new Apple silicone and have any real world impact, but people would freak out if they didn’t see 64 GB.
But what about future workflows? Especially as 6k and 8k footage becomes the norm.
@@Richard_Lutz it smashes 8k workloads right now, maybe 12k but can handle even that and that is +5years away at minimum for regular workflows for most things is overkill.
@@ktms1188 Good to know. Just to make sure I'm following correctly, you're referring to the 16-inch base model right?
@@ktms1188 Not sure it smashes 8k timelines but I think it can play back 8k? 64gb will be useful because M1 has changed the potential for our current software. So softwares will start to be able to use more efficient practices
I hit 32GB of RAM usage really easily.
This was great! Thank you! I have the max 16” 32 core 32 gb 1 tb. I put it through a stress test that I would never do. Not even half of the memory used. 17 streams of 4k on 4k timeline. All have various effects that are GPU heavy (base grade and stylize and blurs)
All while streaming a movie and 9 tabs open on chrome watching RUclips hdr tests…. Never went past 19gb of memory with ZERO swap. Was a little nervous about not going 64gb but won’t run into trouble unless your dealing exclusively with 6k raw(which this one handles) or 8k+ (haven’t tested on this) hope this helps…
Oh btw had a maxed out 14in and swapped it for the 16in mainly for that display and what makes sense for me
What kind of footage are you using? Is it from a specific camera?
Many thanks
@@4257stefan You're welcome! I hope this helped you make a decision.
Thank you so much!!!
This was super helpful!!!! Thank you for the format and style of this video it was super helpful and brass tax!!!
Really helpful. Thanks for the link to that blog post too. 🙌🙌
Glad it was helpful!
This was so helpful. Thanks!
If you are going to use after effects I definitely recommend the 16-inch MBP, 64 RAM, M1 MAX, 32 GPU and 1 tb hard disk
I second this. AE is a super GPU intensive program and it is tough working with 4K 10-bit files.
@@Richard_Lutz I never said it was easy, I said you better build the best macbook pro for AE
@@chaloschicles114 Agreed. My setup is good but I could use more power.
Thank you! Very informative comparison. I’m in need of an upgrade for a lot of editing I have planned from using a DJI Mavic 3 Cine. Also, GO COUGS! You have a new subscriber.
I'm glad this video was helpful. It's also great to get a Go Cougs online. I wish I was able to get to Pullman to watch a game this year.
@@Richard_Lutz I agree! I'm so ready for Cougar Football Saturdays again!
thxx for thisss
Thanks, good review. After spending 3 days on reviews, I opted for the m1 pro with 32GB of RAM. I was torn between m1 pro and max only to get 64GB or RAM but went with the pro as there seems to be more battery drainage with the max due to the cores always taking more power. I dont do any graphic tasks, just computing, so hopefully this is more than enough for next years
So you are giving recommendations without having the machines on hand? Makes sense
Sadly, the one I want is back ordered until mid-December.
@@Richard_Lutz then maybe make your video in December? Have you also ordered both models so you are qualified to give recommendations?
Or you could just not watch the video. Are you qualified to give recommendations to RUclips creators?
Hey you deserve much more subs 🙂👍
Thank you! It’s so hard to find a good video comparing both chips for video editing. Wtheckkkkk
Glad I could help. Feel free to ask any questions that you might have. I have the 10-core CPU and 24-core GPU. However, I recently ordered the fully maxed out M1 Max MBP. Video comparing the two will be released once I compare the two computers.
I merged my desktop and laptop work so I almost purchased the studio and display and went with the macbook max
Nice! I want the studio. It would be so good for heavy post-production editing and other tasks.
Does this Larry work at Apple?
Sounds like it
I don’t think he does. He’s just an editor that knows what will work best for others.
I am going to make a choice between 24gpu 32g 1tb and 16gpu 32g 1tb, normally I use a7s3, my clip are all h265 4k 60p or 120p 10bit 422
Nice video, very helpful. Also, GO COUGS!
Thanks! Go Cougs!
Main thing many of us are seeking are what the battery drain, fan noise and heat in those Max chips vs Pro. The cost to jump from pro to max is $200. People are willing to pay it unless it causes fans to blaze, heat to increase and battery drain suffer.
I am exactly on the same case and did not ordered my 14 inch yet because of this dilemna. Any review clearly deal with that point?
@@aurelielibar5657 the same. I was going to take 14" m1 max (24 core), but after viewing through a bunch of videos and threads on reddit it seems that 14" isn't really that good for m1 max chip. The battery, I think, isn't the main problem, but the noise in some tests is really loud.
A couple of days ago I was in the store to compare both sizes and 14" is really good and comfortable for me (cause for more professional work I'll use external monitor btw). Idk, but 14" model looks more aesthetic. But despite all its pros, I think I'm going for a 16" version because of temperature and noise. In the same stress tests while 14" spins coolers at about 4500 rpm (which is pretty audible), 16" is just for 2000-2300 rpm...
If you have now another opinion - say please. It would be interesting for me to read that, cause I'm still trying to make the right decision
I’m planing getting the Sony A7s iii and Canon Eos r5 which editing system should I go for , Mac book pro M1 max or iMac m1 or Pc configuration, which would you suggest? And computer specs
That's a tough question. I think it really comes down to the codec of the footage. I just sold my GH5 and was shooting 300 Mbps with it. I got the mid-teir MBP and I wish I spent the extra $600 to have the best one. My recommendation would be try and get the most you money can buy. The reality is your computer could outlast the cameras that you're shooting with. Also, you never know if you're going to find yourself working with raw footage. A lot of prosumer cameras are now shipping with raw capabilities.
To what extent does the better thermal performance of the 16 inch actually matter in terms of graphics handling (like with effects and stuff when editing)
Solid video, thanks for making it! I usually edit high quality 4K video but don't do much more (like opening 4-5 heavy apps at the same time). I'm going for the 16 inch, 24 core GPU 32GB of RAM with 1TB SSD, I can't imagine need more!
This is what I did. I'm liking it so far. I'm going to do a review at some point.
Please link to the article you based the video on btw as I can’t see it? 👍
Thanks for the reminder! I totally forgot!
larryjordan.com/articles/configuring-a-2021-m1-macbook-pro-for-video-editing/
can u edit 4k 120p footage ?
Hypothetically, yes. But it really depends on a number of things. For instance, it will be easier to cut a .mov file vs. a Red, or Arri footage.
I want to render 10 hours 4k gaming video on Ps5! So which macbook should I get?
First off, why 10 hours? That is an extremely long video and it is going to take a long time to render. With that in mind you're going to want to pretty beefy machine. Regardless, it could take quite some time to get through. Lastly, what are your analytics saying do you expect people to stay engaged for that period of time? My honest reaction without seeing your channel or your analytics is that you will have a tough time keep people engaged for a long period of time. I could be wrong tho.
@@Richard_Lutz mostly I want to upload full game walkthrough though! Can Mac Studio base handle it?
@@nghiale8517 Most likely but you would be better off buying a PC. You get more bang for your buck.
Almost turned this video off when I saw the WSU logo ;)
Glad you stuck around to the end. 👍🏻
this was helpful i think im option 2
Glad to hear it. I went with Option 2 as well, but I'm not sure how I feel about it. Just purchased the maxed out M1 Max Macbook Pro. I'm planning on doing a few tests with it to compare which is the right computer for me. I'll share my thoughts when I get the computer in March.
Fantastic video. My use case is Sony FX6 and A7SIII 4K footage on the same PP timeline (either H264, H265 or pro res) with durations from 1-30 mins. My conclusion is your option 2 but perhaps with 2TB SSD to take advantage of the speed?
That is a good question. Personally, I don't like to leave assets on my internal drive. I think an 2 TB SSD would be great tho. How do you like the FX6 and A7SIII? I need to upgrade cameras soon.
@@Richard_Lutz they are a superb combination for my two camera interview set up with the a7sIII on a slider at a wider angle which can be removed for b-roll shots
@@smallbizdigitalmedia Glad to hear it. Too bad I'm a Canon shooter.
helpful vid!
Glad it helped!
I think you can get by a little better on 16GB than your friend suggests. We know from the original M1 that it will start to have issues with long 4 multicam timelines. But with these faster hard drives and faster memory access, the penalty for 16 GB seems to be much less. From the only example I have seen, the penalty for exports seems to be only a couple percent. Where it was more like 15% on the original M1. I would rather spend that money on a 2 TB SSD. If you think that you need the 32GB, go max for only another $200. If you are doing this amount of heavy video files, you should be making real money to pay for this.
Valid point. I guess the thing that I'm trying to evaluate is the abundance of all these affordable cameras capable of shooting 4K+ at 10-bit. RED files at 8K scare me the most.
@@Richard_Lutz yes, if you think red 8k is in your future or a few other 8k formats, go for M1 Max with 32GB or more.
@@drsmith1988 Thanks for the feedback. I doubt I'm I'm going to get one anytime soon. However, I would rather be safe than sorry the difference between the fist and second option I outlined was only $200.
Is it really necessary to upgrade to 32 GB Ram with these new shared memory? Does a let´s say 1 hour FCPX-Projekt run significantly faster (e.g. Exporting), or ist the difference not worth the money?
by the way: many thanks for your informative video
You're welcome! I really don't know if 32 gb of ram is needed. I'm trying to be very thoughtful about future workflows and what we could expect in 5 or 6 years. I'm also a Premiere editor.
3,299 + tax. Apples prices are nuts. I just bought the middle tier 14" mbp. $2,700 after tax. That's some serious money
If your going to get 32gb of RAM, you may as well get the Max for the sake of £200
Valid point. Hope things are going well across the pond!
Good point. If paying $3,500 for anything, that extra $400US isn't much.
6:15 🤣
The 14” M1 Max 10core cpu 32core gpu 32gb ram for easy traveling, video editing with multiple layers of (4k 24/30/60/120fps) footage and luts, is a sweet spot and keeps you at $3299
They throttle the 32core on the 14 inch because of smaller fans. You can see it in some of the reviews from MaxTech. If somebody were to get a a 14" and they wanted the power sweet spot I would suggest the 24core
Literally EVERY single M1 Mac comparison/review centers around video content creators. Guess what, only a tiny minority of Mac users fit in that niche. Is that the only thing these computers are useful for?
They are definitely applicable for other uses.
64 Tb of RAM ? Dang!!! 🤣🤣🤣
One can dream. Lol.
Terrible advice