@@smaugballer7337Arsenal had red card and played defensive till the last minute. Madrid and inter Milan came there parked the bus with 11 men then everybody was like wow that's A good game from Milan and Real Madrid but Arsenal its oh they are boring Isn't that A biase to you?
Arsenal were seconds from winning the game with 10 men (admirable), City scraped a draw in the last second at home against 10 men (cringe), yet people are still trying to spin the narrative that this is somehow embarrassing for Arsenal. People's need to banter Arsenal just makes trying to discuss the game pointless because they will always find a way to make Arsenal look like the bad guy
😅😅😅😅 nearly this, nearly that. Arsenal are a pragmatic team against the big teams. They play with 5 defensive players daily. It's a team built on serious defending. The problem is Arsenal fans do not want to admit their team is a defensively minded team that likes an ugly win. The yellow cards will keep coming since the team has all those big guns there. If they don't win anything again this season, Arteta will have a lot of explaining to do. A LOT. People saying Liverpool only have one epl are forgetting the amounts Arteta has been sinking in this team. He needs to win, no excuses. Timber, California, Rice, Jesus Trossard, White, Merino, Zinchenko, Havertz, etc. You don't sign those guys to say you rattled City, you sign them to win titles.
What the hell is Abby talking about for goodness sake??? She saying “you gonna win the league playing like that”… didn’t mourinho win the league playing like that.
Yes he did. However, that was a different time then when that was ok to win the league playing Pragmatic. Now, unfortunately, it's not sustainable in this era of football since City and Pep have raised the bar so high
@@KS-xj7ux of course it’s not sustainable but like Robbie and the rest are saying, Arsenal don’t play like this all the time. We’ve had a really difficult start to the season. Now we are missing our captain who is also the creative outlet. This week alone has been very tasking for this squad.. Two tough away games and one away game in a different country in one week. She doesn’t seem to understand that. Or she doesn’t want to understand it.
@@caraxes6533 a cheating clueless 115 fc fanboy. I see more worry in you because your days of cheating are coming to an end. New kings in town cry all you like. Cheating 115 fc.
Those stats from Abbie about the possession and chances for arsenal - absolutely hilarious. As a gooner I don't care, I just want to win. We had 2 decades of beautiful football under Wenger, but at this point I'm willing to sell my soul for a major trophy.
@mizan061 maybe so, but at least we're fighting at the top of the table consistently now. You don't like arsenal - I get it, I don't like your lot much either. Goodluck with your court case 👍🏿
@@Afro-Caesarso you are happy with nit winning anything? No wonder Arsenal are a team of flappers with fans like you! You are tak8ng the piss out of City for being happy with a draw and here you are claiming that being in the fight is good enough! 🤦🏻
People really think that result is something to laugh at but their dead clubs would concede 4 goals against city at the etihad with 10 men. Can't handle Arsenal actually being good again. City were RATTLED yesterday and the tide is clearly turning.
That’s the funny thing about these people? Their own teams will go to the Etihad and open their bums then spend the rest of the season rooting for City to win the league against Arsenal. It’s funny to me.
Kind of ironic how your fanbase were chanting "boring boring Chelsea" a few years ago for drawing at the Emirates which basically wrapped up the title for them.
@@parmaman8551 This is not a new style of play to us, where do you think 1-0 to the Arsenal came from. Arsenal under Arteta don’t play like this every game, there have been extenuating circumstances that have caused us to play like this, this season.. If you don’t understand that, then I don’t know what to say to you.
@@parmaman8551 flip that irony the other way. Arsenal getting hate for something other teams get lauded for. So it's a pointless thing you're saying actually
Big up flex and matisse. I love how unbiased you guys are. Abbi uses emotions to analyse football, you guys need to send Abbi to footballing school. And spurs playing entertaing football,how is it going for them?
Abbi wants us to attack city with 10 men at the etihad bro we fucking had to play like that cos of the situation we were in and we almost pulled it off
@@villa_fan8882r u taking the piss? Arsenal played the most beautiful football last season and scored the second most goals after 115 fc. But there is the difference between Wenger in his later years and Arteta. Arteta looks at the game and sets up Arsenal accordingly coz we can play different styles. Our defence was always a weakness now its a huge strength. In the late Wenger era we would lose these games easily.
Of course. All the rival fans wanted us to play a style down a man that would have us conceding 4 and 5 so they can laugh and banter us and call us bottlejobs. They hate that we have the best defense in the league and we play to our strength.
@@SanDeezyBreezy61986you're making a strawman argument. Nobodies saying int he 2nd half they should have gone all out. They're criticis8ng how you played in the 1st half. How you played against spurs. Arsneal lead the PL in time wasting.
Abbi really doesnt understand context. 5 games - 2 played with 10 men for 45+ minuts (With a lead to defend) Our midfield have been destroyed with injuries. 3 of the hardest awaygames you can have..
if anyone has any complaints about watching a title race get closed up with terror-ball, take it up with PGMOL. They're the ones forcing Arsenal's hand to play defensively with 10 men twice in 5 games, due to extremely controversial and inconsistent decisions. You've got to be several pints deep to start bringing up Arsenal stats for the 'season', when 5 games have been played with the toughest fixture run of any team so far, and they've been sabotaged by refs for 2 of those.
They were both red cards tho😂. It’s inconsistency from referees which is the problem. Doesn’t change the fact it was a second yellow for rice and Trossard. U created that problem for urself
@@theohowe3106 You would have been right, If Doku, Joao Pedro, Szobozlai, Bernardo Silva would have been booked too. And these are just from the top of my head, A lot more players do that. Only 2 of those players have been booked. Rice and Trossard. We just want consistency, That's all
Matisse's facts are wrong. Man City were not always the winning side. The following is just the Premier League results: Klopp's Liverpool won 4 times while Pep's City won 5 times. They drew each other 7 times.
@@goodebening6564 Bernado Silva was not talking about titles. He was talking about the difference between Liverpool and Arsenal when they played against them. Titles wise? Well, Liverpool still got one, Arsenal 0. I don't know why he got a big mouth to say Arsenal's tactics against City are better when they have not proven anything yet.
The level of clutching from certain rivals is atrocious at this point. They're vex Arsenal didn't get battered, because that's what they expected, simple. I've said it before, Abbi is getting just more and more annoying each week.
genuinely think abbi needs therapy lol how damaged do you have to be? that you are utterly incapable of putting your tribalism aside for a few mins and having a proper discussion without agendas and bias narratives, fair play to mah and flex for discussing like normal human beings
Spurs fans are a different breed of bitter when it comes to Arsenal than Chelsea or Man Utd, simply because they've never had a time where they were successful & Arsenal weren't. Even in the few years they finished above Arsenal, Arsenal won 4 trophies to their zero.
Abbi makes no sense! Arsenal were forced to park the bus because they were 10 men at the Etihad with a 1 goal lead. Of course they will do anything they can to win this crucial match. While with Spurs under Conte and Jose they played that way every week no matter the stakes. As a Madrid fan I totally understand what Arsenal had to do because we did the same thing last season. Circumstances lead to change of play.
@@CharlesOdoch but that was purely tactical. Arsenal knew Spurs will play the high line so they played them on the counter. While Spurs played that way before against teams who were playing for a draw and sat back the entire time. I see Arsenal playing defensively and offensively depending on the opponent and situation.
Abbi doesn’t realizes that out of 5 games this season we played Villa, Spurs and Cheaty away. Two out of 5 games were played with 10 men for about 90 mins total playtime. Of course the attacking stats are not going to look that great. Let’s just wait and see what happens in the next 10 games and how these stats improve!
Somehow she seems to forget that yesterday we had ten men, against spurs we were missing Rice, Odegaard and calafiori, on top of that we also played ten men against brighton
Essentially, the arguments since yesterday have been that even with 10 men, Arsenal, away to their rivals WHO HAVE NOT LOST A HOME GAME IN 2 YEARS, should play a style of football that allows said rivals to play their style of football and eventually win the game?! I mean, the level of gaslighting and pure insanity is unwatchable. What's even more crazy is that the youngest on the panel is the only one making sense. AND HE HATES THEM MORE THAN THE SPUD IMO 😂
They want us to play a style that will get us slapped up so they can laugh and banter and call us bottle jobs. Arsenal is taking the joy out of hating on us that so many rivals had for years, and they don't like it.
These “stats” and “facts” require context. Arsenal have played 2 out of 5 games of the season so far down to 10 men for 40+ minutes and another away derby game without two players who are instrumental in our possession game. Of course how we play and our possession stats are gonna be altered. Surprised we were at 45% tbh
Klopp= 3 champions league finals in 4 years Arsenal + Manchester City = 3 Champions League finals in their ENTIRE histories COMBINED 😂. nobody's off these English shores. facts!
bro football didnt begin ever since Lfc stopped winning the league, if youre a Assna fan.. you shouldn't even start that kind of conversation with Lfc. You will get humbled real quick.
I don't understand what the Spurs fan wants from Arsenal Wolves at home - we had more of the ball Villa away - we had more of the ball Brighton at home - played with 10 men for 45 mins - we had less of the ball NLD away - No Rice, No Odegaard - we had less of the ball City away - 10 men for 50 mins - we had less of the ball All this shows is Arsenal have the ability to play any way that the game requires us to play, and that annoys you lot.
Yup, because they want us to play one way and get slapped up so they can banter us. Rival fans hate that we have taken away the joy they get out of Arsenal losses.
Bernardo silva said that because he was very hurt. He also mentioned that at least liverpool gave it a go, because they almost always used to get the better of liverpool at the etihad. Klopp has never won against pep at the etihad IN the League playing the 'right way'. Also that conte comparison is awful. The difference between the conte and arteta approaches at their respective clubs are arteta's arsenal are title challengers and conte's spurs were league participants which eventually led to his sacking
@@waynerooney8311 When in reality Arsenal fans spent 20+ years listening to rivals enjoy the “AFTV is gonna be lit tonight” days and now it’s teams like United and Chelsea in the mud, the narrative changes to Arsenal haven’t won the league in 20 years
We spent years under Wenger where we won nothing playing the best football in the league only to be told by everyone we were too soft, not pragmatic enough, didn't utilise the dark arts of the game, get bullied, men vs boys etc etc etc We have a team now that is adaptable and can flex between dominating possession, counter attacking, high press or sitting in defensively. We can go long, route one old school, or on the ground and be pateint in build up. I'm old enough to remeber George Graham's Arsenal and having a formidable defence was the foundation of that team and I remember early Wenger powerful, elegant and punishing - This team combines these two ideas and uses them at the right time. No one ever gave us a medal for playing the best football in the league and if we did that yesterday we would've been cooked. Everyone forgetting we were in the lead, we went down to ten men and the critics want us to play like Pep's Barcelona for 45 mins - Ridiculous. We have them rattled and I can't wait for the game at the Emirates it's just a shame that that could be the last time we go to the Etihad for a while unless we get them in the FA Cup lets see how humble they are going away to Preston.
@@waynerooney8311 no we haven't won anything you are right only one team can win any given competition at a time and we have been up against the best team the premier league has even seen we made the decision to rebuild our stadium and because of that we took a financial hit for years which didn't allow us to compete with your mob, City or Chelsea. You are doing the stadium build now so you'll see what that does and lets remeber we were in a better postion than this current United side at the time. We stuck rigidly to FFP throughout that time in order to transition to the new stadium whereas we will soon find out what City were doing the past 15+ years soon enough. As for being rattled just go and watch the game - I've not seen Guardiola boot a chair before, Haaland throwing a ball at Gabriel, Bernado Silva, Akaji and Stones all whinging about dark arts and style of play, Halland insulting Arteta and squaring up to Gabriel and Jesus - if that isn't being rattled i'm not sure what is.
@@chrisoutlaw tbh mate United is kinda different to Arsenal, United got alot of money cos no disrespect but we're bigger club globally so building a stadium shouldn't have much impact, also all that things city done wasn't cos their rattled cos why would they be rattled this early? they have been in this place so many times, its cos of Arsenal's fans and player's being so cocky when they won nothing is what makes fans and other teams laugh at you, u heard Haaland's " Stay humble eh" qoute? to be arrogant you actually have to win something, this is what arsenal team and arsenal fans needs to learn
@@chrisoutlaw also bro, i dno about the " greatest PL side ever" greatest Pl sides wouldn't have 115 charges against them, players wise maybe cos City basically bought PEP a whole new team when he came, you buy one of the best managers in the world a whole new team ( while cheating) that suits his way of playing, they were always gna do great, for me greatest PL side is united's treble winners nd United 2008 ( united 2008 team would nd can beat this City's team) like come one 2008 united team had Ronaldo
I'm a Liverpool fan and I can't believe the stupidity from AGT and the spurs girl and I can't believe I'm agreeing with flex and that Chelsea guy. It's ludicrous to think Arsenal needs to get banter, you are just hateful you lot. Also good call on from the Chelsea guy when city speaks about Liverpool the fans wag their tails, as far as I'm concerned f**k city 😂. But in this situation, Arsenal did their best with 10 men and away!! What else are they supposed to do and yes using the best defence in the league to win games is a pretty good tactic, ask mourinho and especially 10 men down the only team who deserve banter is city.
Arsenal parked the bus the whole time. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing because they still managed to bag 2 goals and after the red they ultra parked the bus and they did it brilliantly. Why do people think parking the bus is something bad when it’s a play style that worked for Arsenal while having 10 men . Well done Arsenal from a United fan👍👍👍
cos Arsenal fans were mocking and singing " park the bus park the bus" when Jose was at Chelsea and United but now all of a sudden "Park the bus" is good now?
People forget that when Conte came in he was playing expansive football with Chelsea and losing. He got spanked by Arsenal 3-0 and then changed everything.
Funny how abbi has a preference in style of play in a tittle race she's not even involved in like it's literally not yours but you have preference damnn. 😂😂
So she expecting Arsenal to play an attacking playstyle with 10 men? Totally invalid arguement. I can assure you next few games at home Arsenal wont park the bus. Its called ADAPTATION
Abbi fully having a shocker here. I understand she had to double down as she doesn’t believe whats she saying. Just admit you wanted Arsenal to spread their legs and it didn’t work. What would spurs have gotten in that run we had?
“Women won’t let logic f**k up their argument. They’re not in it for logic. They’re in it for distance and irritation…” - Chris Rock Abby Summers doing what so many like her do. Arguing to be right. Not to employ logic.
Arsenal did what they needed to do in the situation. The issue for me is that Trossard clearly kicked the ball away. The commentators were also saying he’s kicked the ball away. He hoofed it up in the air. Arteta though is telling the media is a sarcastic way that he did nothing wrong and this is where the problem lies. He needs to install better discipline in his team as yet again this red card cost them the win.
When you add Brighton and City game together, Arsenal have almost a FULL 90 min with 10 men!!! Thats why our possession stats are so low. Come on! I’m surprised no one picked her up on it 🤷🏾♂️
People always bring up "when City and Liverpool were going against each other" like there's only one way for football to be played. Arteta isn't Klopp and Klopp never beat City at the Etihad. We just got closer than Klopp ever did. Cry.
Get closer than Klopp ever did?? What in the actual F are you smoking my guy?? Last I checked, Klopp actually BEAT Pep for the title so tell me what Spanish Tony Pulis have done that Klopp couldn't that makes him better than Klopp. What's that?? Winning the mighty Community Shield?? Even Klopp managed to win that one too and he's already won everything there is to win in England. Absolutely shocking take. Oh my God😂
@@Trapattoni21 the closer than Klopp thing is weird, but you’re not original with Spanish Pulis. Look at the goals scored last two seasons. Those are not a defensive team stat line. I get you’re just bantering. There is also this thing where patience can pay off. Cliche to use Sir Alex as an example, clubs don’t give that much time anymore, and yes he is elite tier, but just an example that it can take time to produce successful results. It also could be Arteta was the one for the rebuild and someone else needs to take it to next level.
@@LaCheeserie yeah Arsenal are a good team - but that's it, that's all yous are, a good team no different to Poch's Spurs, good team, but not elite, never will be, never shall be
This is what Terry from Football Terrace is talking about with that “Arsenal hate is an illness” 😂😂 All logic goes out the window. Shout out to the Terrace.
Arsenal have gone a fall 90+ minutes with 10 Men, and were only 5 games in. How on earth can you raise stats like this and use them as a representation of the season.
Liverpool finished third the year after they won the league, they finished fifth the year after they last finished second, and they finished third last year aswell. City liked the Liverpool rivalry because it didn’t really exist
What nonsense are you speaking? You clown 😂 they won the league after they finished 2nd with 97 points. Then finished 3rd…you dunno what you’re on about. Arsenal have won nothing so deffo no rivalry existing there 😂
That's why we beat them every season nearly u clown wile use park the bus and cheer for a draw u parked the bus against Brighton 😂😂😂😂 dont ever talk about Liverpool use are garbage
Klopp vs Pep was always blockbuster. Some of the best matches I ever watched in the PL. And just to correct Matisse, Klopp actually has a winning record head-to-head against Pep.
“People who don’t understand football analyse with stats”- Jose Mourinho. Abbie has suffered complete headloss so is just reading out stats thinking it proves a point😭
Arsenal were right to adopt those tactics with 10 men but it's ironic that a few years back they were chanting "boring, boring Chelsea" for drawing at the Emirates which basically sealed the title for them.
Brighton red card, Citeh red card, 0 losses but Abbi wants to rattle of stats without context loool. Wasn't super defensive in either of these games before the red and wasn't against Wolves either.
Credit to Arteta, his tactics are changing and what was once his weakness is now becoming his greatest strength and that's his adaptability. The fact he deployed an interchanging 4-4-2 formation that begun to dominate city towards the mid/end of the first half is crazy as Arsenal had Man city absolutely rattled before that red card. Now unfortunately Michael Oliver ruined a game that should have gone down as the greatest battle of this season so far (blame goes to trossard also for putting himself in that position) and forced Arteta to setup in a very dull 6-3-0 I honestly can't imagine any smart manager would have done any different considering the side was 2-1 up against arguably the greatest attack in the world.
It's the job of a Spurs fan to try and get at Arsenal fans. To try and make the most of any negatives. She was just doing her job and it's not her fault she hasn't got much ammunition, as a Spurs fan criticising Arsenal.
I understand both points to be honest. I agree with abbi saying arsenal havent been good so far this season, and they sitting back too much. But that city game, in the 2nd half, they had an excuse to sit back.
I said it after Trossard was sent off, that Oliver decided Arsenal’s tactics for the 2nd half. The game seemed more open than the last meeting and was shaping up to possibly be an early season Match of the Year Contender. But then Trossard got sent off and almost immediately everyone knew how Arsenal were gonna line up for the rest of the game.
Abbi's hate for Arsenal clouds her judgment
But she's sexy
she tried to insert spurs where they didn't belong and tried to justify her point by reading some skewered stats which simply didn't apply.
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Like most people 😂
Flex the man of integrity! Thank you! Pipe down Abbi
ABBBI is a prime example of football fans this days she's so out of touch with reality
Best guy on this show
Abbi had a stinker here.
The usual then
Should she have celebrated the draw with the Arsenal fanbase, it’s a where were you moment for Arsenal fans
She stinks full stop. Girl hasn’t got a scooby.
jesus christ I cant blv what rubbish just came out of her mouth
@@mal7175we must’ve been watching different games because it was City fans who were celebrating the draw.
this woman thinks she was gonna come in today and cook Robbie 😂😂 she got braised and cooked instead
That's called dropping a Spursy
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I don’t think Abbi realises that Arsenal are an adaptable team.
Did she realize her last stat of most red cards means you're probably not going to have possession with 10 men?
@@travistarr9433 fr 😂😂
She's never seen that from spurs 😂 it's new for her
@@travistarr9433 Arsenal played two matches (Brighton & City) with 10 men, and when it's only Gameweek 5, it's going to drag the average way down!
@G-q6h7iTart.
Flex and Matisse making sense? Tis' the endtimes .
Matisse always made sense what u on about?
In fairness Matisse has had the most non biased comments and straight facts over the last year imo
They're actually pretty consistent with flowers where it's due. Flex is just super delusional about United
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Yh, but towards United it’s a different story😂😂😂
they always make sense. only agt and abbie specially never make sense, typical woman
I really like Matisse, he can give the banter but actually gives correct unbiased opinions
Unbiased opinions? Opinions you like and agree with, you mean?
@@smaugballer7337 no like he said unbiased opinions but ofc someone delusional like you will not see it
Matisse was cooking.
@@Aryan-Yash and how do we measure the level of bias or unbias in his opinions, princess?
@@smaugballer7337Arsenal had red card and played defensive till the last minute.
Madrid and inter Milan came there parked the bus with 11 men then everybody was like wow that's A good game from Milan and Real Madrid but Arsenal its oh they are boring
Isn't that A biase to you?
Abby is so delusional man geez
The only arsenal hater that I'll give a pass because she's hot
I rate Matisse alot for this. He had his hate along which you expect from a rival but called spade a spade here
9:09 Robbie shut her down she thought she cooked 😂😂😂 “the week before we beat you 1-0🤷🏾♂️🤣”
Arsenal were seconds from winning the game with 10 men (admirable), City scraped a draw in the last second at home against 10 men (cringe), yet people are still trying to spin the narrative that this is somehow embarrassing for Arsenal. People's need to banter Arsenal just makes trying to discuss the game pointless because they will always find a way to make Arsenal look like the bad guy
A lot of teams have won at the Ethiad, even though Arsenal played a great game it’s not that big an accomplishment
@@mal7175 You’re crazy. No one has won at the Etihad in 2 years.
😅😅😅😅 nearly this, nearly that. Arsenal are a pragmatic team against the big teams. They play with 5 defensive players daily. It's a team built on serious defending. The problem is Arsenal fans do not want to admit their team is a defensively minded team that likes an ugly win. The yellow cards will keep coming since the team has all those big guns there. If they don't win anything again this season, Arteta will have a lot of explaining to do. A LOT. People saying Liverpool only have one epl are forgetting the amounts Arteta has been sinking in this team. He needs to win, no excuses. Timber, California, Rice, Jesus Trossard, White, Merino, Zinchenko, Havertz, etc. You don't sign those guys to say you rattled City, you sign them to win titles.
I've got nothing against banter, love it, but theres a difference between having a laugh & looking for stuff
@@mal7175mate the last team to win there was Brentford which is a month away from 2 years ago? So pls tell me about ALL THESE teams?
What the hell is Abby talking about for goodness sake??? She saying “you gonna win the league playing like that”… didn’t mourinho win the league playing like that.
Yes he did. However, that was a different time then when that was ok to win the league playing Pragmatic. Now, unfortunately, it's not sustainable in this era of football since City and Pep have raised the bar so high
Didn't you were crying when they were playing like that.
@@KS-xj7ux of course it’s not sustainable but like Robbie and the rest are saying, Arsenal don’t play like this all the time. We’ve had a really difficult start to the season. Now we are missing our captain who is also the creative outlet. This week alone has been very tasking for this squad.. Two tough away games and one away game in a different country in one week. She doesn’t seem to understand that. Or she doesn’t want to understand it.
@@bhumikjoshi4573 I wasn’t crying about anything.
@@TheGoonette it's the latter more than the former on your point about Abbi
Abbi just wanted to talk for the sake of it 😂😂😂
Exactly 😂and got embarrassed later. You could see it in her face.
Arteta has rocked up to Pep's house and has them celebrating a draw against 10 men while injuring his best player. Rattled is an understatement.
Every team would celebrate a stoppage time goal. Cope harder
@@bluemoon1716 here goes another rattled one. cry more
@@remotecontrolaccountremotecontyou seem more rattled. Silva and 4odri have rattled arsenal fans so hard 😂😂😂😂
@@caraxes6533 rodri is out for the rest of the season, we'll see who gets the last laugh 😂😂
@@caraxes6533 a cheating clueless 115 fc fanboy. I see more worry in you because your days of cheating are coming to an end. New kings in town cry all you like. Cheating 115 fc.
Those stats from Abbie about the possession and chances for arsenal - absolutely hilarious. As a gooner I don't care, I just want to win. We had 2 decades of beautiful football under Wenger, but at this point I'm willing to sell my soul for a major trophy.
You are still not winning anything.
@mizan061 maybe so, but at least we're fighting at the top of the table consistently now. You don't like arsenal - I get it, I don't like your lot much either. Goodluck with your court case 👍🏿
@@Afro-Caesarso you are happy with nit winning anything? No wonder Arsenal are a team of flappers with fans like you!
You are tak8ng the piss out of City for being happy with a draw and here you are claiming that being in the fight is good enough! 🤦🏻
@@Afro-Caesar well said my friend they are rattled.
@@mizan061 ya loved City since 2019??? 😂😂😂
A tottenham fan saying what football she prefers 😂. Face your front abbey
Flex asked the best question when Abby was going on about City Liverpool never playing out like yesterday - “ SO WHAT?! “
Only loser or salty would say “SO WHAT”
@@jianwen414 neither did we lose, nor were we salty
People really think that result is something to laugh at but their dead clubs would concede 4 goals against city at the etihad with 10 men. Can't handle Arsenal actually being good again. City were RATTLED yesterday and the tide is clearly turning.
That’s the funny thing about these people? Their own teams will go to the Etihad and open their bums then spend the rest of the season rooting for City to win the league against Arsenal. It’s funny to me.
Kind of ironic how your fanbase were chanting "boring boring Chelsea" a few years ago for drawing at the Emirates which basically wrapped up the title for them.
@@parmaman8551 This is not a new style of play to us, where do you think 1-0 to the Arsenal came from. Arsenal under Arteta don’t play like this every game, there have been extenuating circumstances that have caused us to play like this, this season.. If you don’t understand that, then I don’t know what to say to you.
@@parmaman8551 flip that irony the other way. Arsenal getting hate for something other teams get lauded for. So it's a pointless thing you're saying actually
Got fucked whole 45 minute but they are happy that they didn't get pregnant.
Big up flex and matisse. I love how unbiased you guys are. Abbi uses emotions to analyse football, you guys need to send Abbi to footballing school. And spurs playing entertaing football,how is it going for them?
I thought they said if Arsenal defend the way they did in the game against Tottenham, City will trash the hell out of Arsenal. What now happened?
On point
Abbi wants us to attack city with 10 men at the etihad bro we fucking had to play like that cos of the situation we were in and we almost pulled it off
You always play like that! Arsenal and Wolves are the most boring team to watch..
@@villa_fan8882you started watching football yesterday 😂😂😂😂
@@villa_fan8882r u taking the piss? Arsenal played the most beautiful football last season and scored the second most goals after 115 fc. But there is the difference between Wenger in his later years and Arteta. Arteta looks at the game and sets up Arsenal accordingly coz we can play different styles. Our defence was always a weakness now its a huge strength. In the late Wenger era we would lose these games easily.
Of course. All the rival fans wanted us to play a style down a man that would have us conceding 4 and 5 so they can laugh and banter us and call us bottlejobs. They hate that we have the best defense in the league and we play to our strength.
@@SanDeezyBreezy61986you're making a strawman argument. Nobodies saying int he 2nd half they should have gone all out. They're criticis8ng how you played in the 1st half. How you played against spurs. Arsneal lead the PL in time wasting.
Abbi really doesnt understand context.
5 games - 2 played with 10 men for 45+ minuts (With a lead to defend)
Our midfield have been destroyed with injuries.
3 of the hardest awaygames you can have..
if anyone has any complaints about watching a title race get closed up with terror-ball, take it up with PGMOL. They're the ones forcing Arsenal's hand to play defensively with 10 men twice in 5 games, due to extremely controversial and inconsistent decisions. You've got to be several pints deep to start bringing up Arsenal stats for the 'season', when 5 games have been played with the toughest fixture run of any team so far, and they've been sabotaged by refs for 2 of those.
Cook hommie, COOK!
And those 2 games are the only games that Arsenal never won
They were both red cards tho😂. It’s inconsistency from referees which is the problem. Doesn’t change the fact it was a second yellow for rice and Trossard. U created that problem for urself
@@theohowe3106 You would have been right, If Doku, Joao Pedro, Szobozlai, Bernardo Silva would have been booked too. And these are just from the top of my head, A lot more players do that. Only 2 of those players have been booked. Rice and Trossard. We just want consistency, That's all
@@theohowe3106softest yellow cards ive ever seen. Rice should never have seen red and even Trossard yesterday both yellows were fuckin soft as hell.
5:08 - 5:41 Matisse with the ABSOLUTE BOMBS of knowledge! Damn!💥💥AGT getting his smug face shut down. Amazing!
Matisse's facts are wrong. Man City were not always the winning side. The following is just the Premier League results: Klopp's Liverpool won 4 times while Pep's City won 5 times. They drew each other 7 times.
@@David-qy7sb but titles wise?
@David-qy7sb It's all facts Bro!
@@goodebening6564 Bernado Silva was not talking about titles. He was talking about the difference between Liverpool and Arsenal when they played against them. Titles wise? Well, Liverpool still got one, Arsenal 0. I don't know why he got a big mouth to say Arsenal's tactics against City are better when they have not proven anything yet.
@@briansheridan9160 Show your facts bro. Be rational and have critical thinking, don't just believe whatever it feels convenient to you.
The level of clutching from certain rivals is atrocious at this point. They're vex Arsenal didn't get battered, because that's what they expected, simple. I've said it before, Abbi is getting just more and more annoying each week.
genuinely think abbi needs therapy lol how damaged do you have to be? that you are utterly incapable of putting your tribalism aside for a few mins and having a proper discussion without agendas and bias narratives, fair play to mah and flex for discussing like normal human beings
The irony when it’s Robbie’s bias diatribe that sets her off.
Spurs fans are a different breed of bitter when it comes to Arsenal than Chelsea or Man Utd, simply because they've never had a time where they were successful & Arsenal weren't. Even in the few years they finished above Arsenal, Arsenal won 4 trophies to their zero.
Abbi was forcing the violin music so much to the point I was actually cringing
me too
Abbi makes no sense! Arsenal were forced to park the bus because they were 10 men at the Etihad with a 1 goal lead. Of course they will do anything they can to win this crucial match. While with Spurs under Conte and Jose they played that way every week no matter the stakes. As a Madrid fan I totally understand what Arsenal had to do because we did the same thing last season. Circumstances lead to change of play.
Arsenal played almost the same against Spurs
@@CharlesOdoch but that was purely tactical. Arsenal knew Spurs will play the high line so they played them on the counter. While Spurs played that way before against teams who were playing for a draw and sat back the entire time. I see Arsenal playing defensively and offensively depending on the opponent and situation.
@@NuclearAtoms When did Arsenal start sitting deep against Spurs?
A great manager once said attack wins you games, defense wins you titles. Abbi is a Spurs fan i forgot
Spurs don't win titles.
yeah that’s why arsenal have been cleaning up bruh how are arsenal fans talking like they won the treble it’s embarrassing 😂😂😂😂
@@jaydash6013irrelevant take
@@Afc_goonerT so how is it irrelevant 🤔🤔🤔
@@jaydash6013 Trophies has got nothing to do with Arsenal's defensive masterclass yesterday. So your take is irrelevant.
Mad respect for Matisse and Flex
Why is she here ?
She actually usually has good analysis, seems like her hate for arsenal clouded her
Eye candy
@@thelegendthatischelssort it out fella
Beauty eventually fades and the light or Darkness shades through.
Abbi doesn’t realizes that out of 5 games this season we played Villa, Spurs and Cheaty away. Two out of 5 games were played with 10 men for about 90 mins total playtime. Of course the attacking stats are not going to look that great. Let’s just wait and see what happens in the next 10 games and how these stats improve!
pep always is like that if they win against team they appreciate and if they don't get results they criticise the team
Pep said in the post match he would have done the same.
Somehow she seems to forget that yesterday we had ten men, against spurs we were missing Rice, Odegaard and calafiori, on top of that we also played ten men against brighton
Don Robbie didn't even have to talk today, Flex & Matisse were carrying the convo & cooking Abbi 😂
AG just sitting there enjoying the show
When Matisse and Flex are the voices of reason, you know your opinion absolutely stinks. Abbi is so bitter it’s unbelievable
Banter aside,I love Matise
Nobody cares
I love banter, but it should be funny, light hearted, I dunt like when people look for shirt just to put down someone else
Essentially, the arguments since yesterday have been that even with 10 men, Arsenal, away to their rivals WHO HAVE NOT LOST A HOME GAME IN 2 YEARS, should play a style of football that allows said rivals to play their style of football and eventually win the game?! I mean, the level of gaslighting and pure insanity is unwatchable. What's even more crazy is that the youngest on the panel is the only one making sense. AND HE HATES THEM MORE THAN THE SPUD IMO 😂
They want us to play a style that will get us slapped up so they can laugh and banter and call us bottle jobs. Arsenal is taking the joy out of hating on us that so many rivals had for years, and they don't like it.
These “stats” and “facts” require context. Arsenal have played 2 out of 5 games of the season so far down to 10 men for 40+ minutes and another away derby game without two players who are instrumental in our possession game. Of course how we play and our possession stats are gonna be altered. Surprised we were at 45% tbh
Citypool still bumming each other, Liverpool won 1 in 30 years... It's not a flex
35 years by 2025 my guy cause they aint winning this year aswell
Arsenal haven’t won the league in 20 years, never won a UCL not exactly a flex either
Klopp= 3 champions league finals in 4 years
Arsenal + Manchester City = 3 Champions League finals in their ENTIRE histories COMBINED 😂. nobody's off these English shores. facts!
bro football didnt begin ever since Lfc stopped winning the league, if youre a Assna fan.. you shouldn't even start that kind of conversation with Lfc. You will get humbled real quick.
We won in 2019 2020 season@@Aryan-Yash
I don't understand what the Spurs fan wants from Arsenal
Wolves at home - we had more of the ball
Villa away - we had more of the ball
Brighton at home - played with 10 men for 45 mins - we had less of the ball
NLD away - No Rice, No Odegaard - we had less of the ball
City away - 10 men for 50 mins - we had less of the ball
All this shows is Arsenal have the ability to play any way that the game requires us to play, and that annoys you lot.
Yup, because they want us to play one way and get slapped up so they can banter us. Rival fans hate that we have taken away the joy they get out of Arsenal losses.
They want to BE Arsenal. Simple as that, and they never will.
Bernardo silva said that because he was very hurt. He also mentioned that at least liverpool gave it a go, because they almost always used to get the better of liverpool at the etihad. Klopp has never won against pep at the etihad IN the League playing the 'right way'. Also that conte comparison is awful. The difference between the conte and arteta approaches at their respective clubs are arteta's arsenal are title challengers and conte's spurs were league participants which eventually led to his sacking
Rival fans are just pissed because they didn’t get to see Arsenal get pumped 13-2
Bingo. Exactly.
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rivals fans always laughs at Arsenal cos of fans like, being cocky when u haven't won anything yet lol
@@waynerooney8311 When in reality Arsenal fans spent 20+ years listening to rivals enjoy the “AFTV is gonna be lit tonight” days and now it’s teams like United and Chelsea in the mud, the narrative changes to Arsenal haven’t won the league in 20 years
@@lvsselle funny United still won more trophies than you in the last 2 years LOL AFTV is still lit when you bottle the league again
Abbi has never been more blonde than in this video.
bingo sorry i meant bimbo
We spent years under Wenger where we won nothing playing the best football in the league only to be told by everyone we were too soft, not pragmatic enough, didn't utilise the dark arts of the game, get bullied, men vs boys etc etc etc
We have a team now that is adaptable and can flex between dominating possession, counter attacking, high press or sitting in defensively. We can go long, route one old school, or on the ground and be pateint in build up. I'm old enough to remeber George Graham's Arsenal and having a formidable defence was the foundation of that team and I remember early Wenger powerful, elegant and punishing - This team combines these two ideas and uses them at the right time. No one ever gave us a medal for playing the best football in the league and if we did that yesterday we would've been cooked.
Everyone forgetting we were in the lead, we went down to ten men and the critics want us to play like Pep's Barcelona for 45 mins - Ridiculous.
We have them rattled and I can't wait for the game at the Emirates it's just a shame that that could be the last time we go to the Etihad for a while unless we get them in the FA Cup lets see how humble they are going away to Preston.
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you also won nothing yet now tho lol, City rattled? why would City be rattled?
@@waynerooney8311 no we haven't won anything you are right only one team can win any given competition at a time and we have been up against the best team the premier league has even seen we made the decision to rebuild our stadium and because of that we took a financial hit for years which didn't allow us to compete with your mob, City or Chelsea. You are doing the stadium build now so you'll see what that does and lets remeber we were in a better postion than this current United side at the time. We stuck rigidly to FFP throughout that time in order to transition to the new stadium whereas we will soon find out what City were doing the past 15+ years soon enough. As for being rattled just go and watch the game - I've not seen Guardiola boot a chair before, Haaland throwing a ball at Gabriel, Bernado Silva, Akaji and Stones all whinging about dark arts and style of play, Halland insulting Arteta and squaring up to Gabriel and Jesus - if that isn't being rattled i'm not sure what is.
@@chrisoutlaw tbh mate United is kinda different to Arsenal, United got alot of money cos no disrespect but we're bigger club globally so building a stadium shouldn't have much impact, also all that things city done wasn't cos their rattled cos why would they be rattled this early? they have been in this place so many times, its cos of Arsenal's fans and player's being so cocky when they won nothing is what makes fans and other teams laugh at you, u heard Haaland's " Stay humble eh" qoute? to be arrogant you actually have to win something, this is what arsenal team and arsenal fans needs to learn
@@chrisoutlaw also bro, i dno about the " greatest PL side ever" greatest Pl sides wouldn't have 115 charges against them, players wise maybe cos City basically bought PEP a whole new team when he came, you buy one of the best managers in the world a whole new team ( while cheating) that suits his way of playing, they were always gna do great, for me greatest PL side is united's treble winners nd United 2008 ( united 2008 team would nd can beat this City's team) like come one 2008 united team had Ronaldo
Matisse banters full force, goes for the kill, but gives flowers where its due. Consistently. Respect.
I'm a Liverpool fan and I can't believe the stupidity from AGT and the spurs girl and I can't believe I'm agreeing with flex and that Chelsea guy. It's ludicrous to think Arsenal needs to get banter, you are just hateful you lot. Also good call on from the Chelsea guy when city speaks about Liverpool the fans wag their tails, as far as I'm concerned f**k city 😂. But in this situation, Arsenal did their best with 10 men and away!! What else are they supposed to do and yes using the best defence in the league to win games is a pretty good tactic, ask mourinho and especially 10 men down the only team who deserve banter is city.
i cant believe i just found an lfc fan with brains, i think i love you
MATISSE TAKE A BOW SON
Even if Arsenal won, they would be saying they still wouldn't win the league
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Arsenal parked the bus the whole time. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing because they still managed to bag 2 goals and after the red they ultra parked the bus and they did it brilliantly. Why do people think parking the bus is something bad when it’s a play style that worked for Arsenal while having 10 men . Well done Arsenal from a United fan👍👍👍
cos Arsenal fans were mocking and singing " park the bus park the bus" when Jose was at Chelsea and United but now all of a sudden "Park the bus" is good now?
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I mean they were facing City so we should just let them of the hook this once
People forget that when Conte came in he was playing expansive football with Chelsea and losing. He got spanked by Arsenal 3-0 and then changed everything.
Funny how abbi has a preference in style of play in a tittle race she's not even involved in like it's literally not yours but you have preference damnn. 😂😂
How abbi is making a living on watching football is a crime.
No clue whatsoever about the game in any sense.
Supporting spurs has affected her brain.
That odegarrd picture always kills me 😂
People complaining about the way we play it’s called tactics we don’t play like that every game fools
exactly and they know that too but they just need to cope because of how good you are
I never seen someone cook themselves trying to cook someone else
So she expecting Arsenal to play an attacking playstyle with 10 men? Totally invalid arguement. I can assure you next few games at home Arsenal wont park the bus. Its called ADAPTATION
Wdym is boring, i don't mind my team defending the whole game, as far as they get the job done thats all that matters
Abbi fully having a shocker here. I understand she had to double down as she doesn’t believe whats she saying. Just admit you wanted Arsenal to spread their legs and it didn’t work. What would spurs have gotten in that run we had?
0 points
“Women won’t let logic f**k up their argument. They’re not in it for logic. They’re in it for distance and irritation…” - Chris Rock
Abby Summers doing what so many like her do. Arguing to be right. Not to employ logic.
honestly never thought I'd live to see a chelsea fan compliment arsenal for being mourinho esque with their pragmatic defence.
Arsenal did what they needed to do in the situation. The issue for me is that Trossard clearly kicked the ball away. The commentators were also saying he’s kicked the ball away. He hoofed it up in the air. Arteta though is telling the media is a sarcastic way that he did nothing wrong and this is where the problem lies. He needs to install better discipline in his team as yet again this red card cost them the win.
"what about the week before?"
"The week before we beat you, 1-0"
lmao
When you add Brighton and City game together, Arsenal have almost a FULL 90 min with 10 men!!! Thats why our possession stats are so low. Come on! I’m surprised no one picked her up on it 🤷🏾♂️
People always bring up "when City and Liverpool were going against each other" like there's only one way for football to be played. Arteta isn't Klopp and Klopp never beat City at the Etihad. We just got closer than Klopp ever did. Cry.
Get closer than Klopp ever did?? What in the actual F are you smoking my guy?? Last I checked, Klopp actually BEAT Pep for the title so tell me what Spanish Tony Pulis have done that Klopp couldn't that makes him better than Klopp. What's that?? Winning the mighty Community Shield?? Even Klopp managed to win that one too and he's already won everything there is to win in England. Absolutely shocking take. Oh my God😂
@@Trapattoni21Brother Preach high five 🙌🏼
Closer than Klopp ever did. 😂😂😂
@@Trapattoni21 the closer than Klopp thing is weird, but you’re not original with Spanish Pulis. Look at the goals scored last two seasons. Those are not a defensive team stat line. I get you’re just bantering. There is also this thing where patience can pay off. Cliche to use Sir Alex as an example, clubs don’t give that much time anymore, and yes he is elite tier, but just an example that it can take time to produce successful results. It also could be Arteta was the one for the rebuild and someone else needs to take it to next level.
@@LaCheeserie yeah Arsenal are a good team - but that's it, that's all yous are, a good team
no different to Poch's Spurs, good team, but not elite, never will be, never shall be
This is what Terry from Football Terrace is talking about with that “Arsenal hate is an illness” 😂😂 All logic goes out the window. Shout out to the Terrace.
So Insufferable listening to this woman. 👩🏽
I thought some of these guys knew football, Arsenal did the right thing 1-2 up with 45 minutes, what else are they supposed to do.
Flex and Matisse on point 🔥
Abbi is not understanding that what this is really highlighting is how versatile Arteta is in deploying different styles depending on the situation.
Aabi is embarrassing .... can't even diss her.... just stupid talk.
Arsenal have gone a fall 90+ minutes with 10 Men, and were only 5 games in. How on earth can you raise stats like this and use them as a representation of the season.
Liverpool finished third the year after they won the league, they finished fifth the year after they last finished second, and they finished third last year aswell. City liked the Liverpool rivalry because it didn’t really exist
What nonsense are you speaking? You clown 😂 they won the league after they finished 2nd with 97 points. Then finished 3rd…you dunno what you’re on about. Arsenal have won nothing so deffo no rivalry existing there 😂
That's why we beat them every season nearly u clown wile use park the bus and cheer for a draw u parked the bus against Brighton 😂😂😂😂 dont ever talk about Liverpool use are garbage
Klopp vs Pep was always blockbuster. Some of the best matches I ever watched in the PL. And just to correct Matisse, Klopp actually has a winning record head-to-head against Pep.
Robbie loves stats...0 Trophies after spending £800 million 😂
Another stat 115 charges.
680mil net spend, stop lying.
@@deeray4637 OK.. let's divide that by the number of major trophies?!? 😆 . Keep in mind,it was Emerys team that Won the f.a.cup.
@sammyboy12345 so he won a trophy with players he didn't even want. That somehow makes it less of an achievement? Try harder Samuel.
@@deeray4637imagine calling a new born baby of himself but you arrived just 2 months before.
the best part of this video is everyone talking over each other. love it. quality content.
“People who don’t understand football analyse with stats”- Jose Mourinho. Abbie has suffered complete headloss so is just reading out stats thinking it proves a point😭
"But you were rubbish." Well done Flex 😂😂
As a tottenham fan... Abbie got cooked FFS - The power of knowing when to speak comes to mind!
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This is why I like matisse he knows when to clap back and when to speak ball
AGT on flip mode as soon as he doesn't have a comeback. Just like Liverpool 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its ONE GAME with 10 men Abbi.
Abbi got cooked 😂😂
Rate Matisse and Flex for the unbiased and downright obvious opinion of the game. Wish everyone could think that way
Arsenal were right to adopt those tactics with 10 men but it's ironic that a few years back they were chanting "boring, boring Chelsea" for drawing at the Emirates which basically sealed the title for them.
The irony goes both ways because they are being bantered for something other teams get lauded for.
Brighton red card, Citeh red card, 0 losses but Abbi wants to rattle of stats without context loool. Wasn't super defensive in either of these games before the red and wasn't against Wolves either.
Robbie spit the facts
She sounds clueless... forgot that they played 2 games with 10 men...
Credit to Arteta, his tactics are changing and what was once his weakness is now becoming his greatest strength and that's his adaptability. The fact he deployed an interchanging 4-4-2 formation that begun to dominate city towards the mid/end of the first half is crazy as Arsenal had Man city absolutely rattled before that red card. Now unfortunately Michael Oliver ruined a game that should have gone down as the greatest battle of this season so far (blame goes to trossard also for putting himself in that position) and forced Arteta to setup in a very dull 6-3-0 I honestly can't imagine any smart manager would have done any different considering the side was 2-1 up against arguably the greatest attack in the world.
It's the job of a Spurs fan to try and get at Arsenal fans. To try and make the most of any negatives. She was just doing her job and it's not her fault she hasn't got much ammunition, as a Spurs fan criticising Arsenal.
I have no idea how anyone would watch this. The way they talk over each other is ridiculous.
I understand both points to be honest. I agree with abbi saying arsenal havent been good so far this season, and they sitting back too much. But that city game, in the 2nd half, they had an excuse to sit back.
I said it after Trossard was sent off, that Oliver decided Arsenal’s tactics for the 2nd half. The game seemed more open than the last meeting and was shaping up to possibly be an early season Match of the Year Contender. But then Trossard got sent off and almost immediately everyone knew how Arsenal were gonna line up for the rest of the game.
Arteta implementing Mourinho's "Us vs. EVERYBODY" mentality with the best defense in the league is going to be AWESOME
Also before mourinho
Was Arsenal George Graham 1-0 to the Arsenal
Well done the boys, playing ten against twelve, Oiliver is bent !!!!
Robbie can't take it the fact his side are now prime stoke city, Gabrielle stop scorer , yeah you ain't winning much with that strike force
Damn Arteta rattled City AND Tottenham fans in one week
Abby wisdom is chasing you but you are faster