When Dr. Degruy was talking about learned helplessness I can’t help but think of the door of no return. That’s where our learned helplessness started. 😢 Epigenetic
I disagree! These were captives: beaten, starved, raped, sick in body and mind, tortured, many broken , terrified but some- always some : defiant, outraged, enraged. The latter are epigenetic, too. Not all of us ever were or are defeated internally. The learned helplessness took generations, the creation of a divided class with no loyalty toward their African ancestry, paid informers, and so on. That learned helplessness gets stronger as we continue is the worst yet. People like Owens and yes, West and so many are the enemies of our own households and they choose this because they are self serving grifters. Kanye West was most certainly taught the opposite by his mother, Professor Donya West. And then she fell under the wheel? Why⁉️Whose idea was that clandestine BBL? Learned bah humbug! Forced, compelled and then accepted by grifters. When we stop the grifters, we’ll be well on our way to the open defiance needed to end the external and the internal. Our failure to act, repression feeds the monster. Knowledge is essential but action is supreme. I wish a ninja would talk about some good hair in my presence. It’s in our hands. Tired of these excuses now varnished by academia and talking heads . You got it; I’m epigenetically enraged. Most of “ the culture” needs to be expunged.
Dr. DeGruy is a life giver, because she says what needs to be said to set the record straight regarding our plight. Any thinking being in "The Hood" looks around and sees something is awry, something is underdeveloped, something has been skewed. And we also know that it's not entirely Black people's fault. This had to come from somewhere. Dr. Joy DeGruy looks beyond the effect and delves deeply into the cause. This is why she is a treasure, perhaps more than she even knows.
I left America at 19, I'm from the projects in the South Bronx, I went to college in Rome and NEVER came back. Many of us are leaving going to Africa. Wherever you go anywhere is better than staying in the US
As a social worker, Dr. DeGruy is one of my heroes. I have owned PTSS, quoted it, and have educated many folk for the decade that she has been on my radar.
PTSS is a justification for the dysfunctional behavior and the violence found in the black community . It's the result of generational trauma , ( caused by slavery )being passed down to African Americans and excusing their violence in society . If this is true , then we must find the 5 black officers innocent for killing Tyre Nichols . After all aren't these 5 officers not responsible for their actions due to Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome .
@Steven Smith no, because thoughts and behaviors are different. No one can hold you responsible for your thoughts and emotions, that's why you get help in the form of therapy. But, society can, and does, absolutely hold you responsible for your behaviors. You're an adult. Adults don't act on every feeling they have when they have it.
I'm a 49 year old man and today October 23 2023 is the first time I've seen or heard of this great Woman,and I'm already WOWWED by the little I saw...I saw a tik tok with a snippet of a lecture and immediately started my research... although in my heart I knew the things she spoke about ,raping ,killing and lynching of slaves, black people ,etc ,I did not know that these heinous acts were ,on paper "legal" ..thank you Prof Degruy for your continued work....it is much appreciated..just proves that we are never too old to learn, never.
Professor Karen, you keep raising the bar and I am here for it. My mamma was an older mother and I was teased a lot growing up because my mamma was older. Having babies at a very young age was something that was praised when I was younger. Waiting until you are older to have a child was frowned upon Professor Karen. I love what Dr. DeGruy sound about learned helplessness. There are Black people who demonize another Black people for leaving the hood, it is seen as anti-Black. I see anti-Black as telling a Black person they should not better themselves is very anti-Black and these messages are coming directly from US. We criminalize each other for just doing better. Thank you Professor Karen for this great segment.
I guess I’m sheltered. I’m just not around these types of black folks, and I’m mostly around black folks! I am not around Black folks criminalizing each other for doing better.
You know this got to be the ancestors. I JUST finished seeing an infamous pic of Kanye and Candice wearing "white lives matter" shirts. *deep sigh* Then saw black high school football players participating in a mock slave auction. I was trying to find a words for what some of us were going thru. Post traumatic slave syndrome is what we going thru.
When my grandson became a teenager, I told my daughter that he needs to know not just that you love him but that you respect him. I got that from Dr. Joy 😊.
Another phenomenal black woman! I first met Dr. DeGruy when I worked at First Interstate Bank (Portland, OR) in 1987. The bank brought her in to do some "Affirmative Action" training. I learned a lot about people culturally and environmentally. Wait 'til y'all learn the true beginnings of the Statue of Liberty. Like Dr. Carr, and Professor Hunter, Dr. Joy DeGruy is a national treasure.
Learned helplessness is why we must be very careful with how much of the public lynchings and injustice we consume. It creates "hopelessness " and "learned helplessness " that will cause us to "lay down" and not progress or turn to toxic entertainment and abusive substances to temporarily give us mental and emotional relief. "The system is working exactly the way it was designed to work". Stay vigilant. Don't give up!✊🏾 And make it a priority to pass the wealth, warnings and wisdom to the next generation.
my goodness 'my mom' 'you break my leg and complain that I limp' 'the system isnt broken" 'vacant self-esteem' wow I learned about learned helplessness and self-efficacy at Chicago State. Informed my teaching approach and life perspective. I would be afraid of us, too. Thank you for reaching back: soak beans overnite. I love your approach to these boys walking down the street (tears). Our role is not to cross the street.
"Would you be my Mom, too?" Dag, of all the things I expected to tug at my heart in this conversation, this one has me weeping. Blessings to Dr. DeGruy and that Mama and Daughter. ❤🙏🏿
I could listen to this fabulous woman for hours, but I know she'd prefer for me to take action instead. Everything she says is so profoundly true and reaches us deeply if we but pay attention. I hate the term "master" teacher but we are sitting at the foot of greatness here.
That learned helplessness is like the lions who wouldn't leave the cage, even after it was gone. This was the best, Prof. Hunter; so glad to be a Knubian, because it boils over! And Dr. DeGruy, what you did w/those young men - acknowledge them - is what I always do when I run across some to encourage. We should all be that smart.
Thank you Professor Hunter for having Dr. Joy De Gruy on your show disscussing these important issues as people of African descent. Both of you are present day versions of Angela Davis who are always about the business of presenting factual infomation for the purpose of uplifting and liberating our minds.
My mother used to constantly use that quote about co-opted Black leaders, how they "came in to do good, but ended up just doing well." She made sure we understood that. [12:39 juncture]
Professors Hunter and Dr. DeGruy...your beautiful spirits and passion for our people ❤ lift my heart and mind to such heights. I have been following you both for years. This interview brings me to tears. It feels vital and long overdue. I look forward to hearing more from you together. Your combined power and intellect are the prototype for us all. Thank you for your beautiful presence.
I knew a woman who told me after many years of asking her why she doesn't move out of a dangerous community she was living in, that we both grew up in, there were times when we would be talking on the phone and she would scream for me to hold on only to find out later she was dropping to the floor because people were shooting outside her house, after many years of repeatedly asking her why she hasnt moved away from there she finally said its because she didnt think she could make it anywhere else, I met her in 1987 this is 2022 and shes still in that same house and still ducking bullets, I had moved away long ago. Bobby Womack said this in his song called "Across 110th Street" he mentions how "families on the other side of town would catch hell without a ghetto around" Dr Degruy is right when she says this mentality is from being conditioned, trained not to want to even try to leave, that is for SOME because like she and I and I'm sure many of us knew better and wanted better than the conditions they constructed for our people. Professor Hunter, thank you for doing this show, please have Dr Degruy back on real soon so this process of enlightenment can continue, we eat it up because we need it ❤
That last bit was so impactful. She really hit on the importance of community and how it is lacking today. We really need to focus inward and see our youth as the future, the leaders of tomorrow.
Dr. DeGruy just brings her expertise like family, so relatable and digestable........she's been on my faves list for many years and inspite of the tough subject matter I still manage to find joy through Joy's delivery ❣️
Thank you so much for this interview. I hadn't seen any recent interviews with Dr. DeGruy for a while. Now I know why; she's been in the trenches doing the work.
I felt this whole talk. Joy is the truth. Her bravery is phenomenal. I especially enjoyed the point about our male youth. They need us to trust them, talk to them, listen to them, empathize with them, co-create a better world with them. Respect is a 2-way street, if we want them to respect the wisdom of the elders, we need to respect their wisdom in a modern age too. This definitely needs to be seen far and wide!
"Your projection of our violence is yours." Deep and truth. They have a savage history towards us. I purchased PTSS some time ago and have been reading it in doses to give myself time to process it. I am so appreciative of Dr. Degruy and her work. Thank you Karen for having her on as I guest. I hope that she does become a regular light on your show.
Dr Joy is definitely a Titan among critical thinkers I was introduced to her work before the pandemic and Dove head first in during the pandemic and it's fitting that she would end up on the Karen Hunter podcast thank you love it!!!
My son gave me a bootleg DVD (around 10 yrs. ago) called 'Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Dr. DeGruy' , he thought I might find interesting 🤔 It TOTALLY Blew my Mind!!!!! 🤯It was like my Spirit/Soul & Mind suddenly Connected... I was so depressed & confused at the time, but after watching this blurry video, (I usually refused to watch any bootleg disc) but this message had reached deep into my being & sent me down a rabbit hole of information that still hasn't stopped; Dr. Joy DeGruy is my SHERO ❤
Dr. Joy is my shero! I have her book on Posttraumatic Slave Syndrome and it is so prolific! As a doctoral student, I look up to her and I am so grateful for her work in the social sciences and for the culture.
Wow.. This interview was emotional and moving for me. Especially when she spoke about talking to the group of young men coming from school. Love love Dr.Joy.. Her name fits her well. Thanks Sis Hunter.(The cleanest glass of water on these airways). Love you 🙏🏾
Read the book and found it so enlightening. Helped me understand lot of things and gave practical advice to heal. I have recommended the book many times
I just stumbled across your channel this is a great interview so much knowledge. All the obstacles place in our way. It almost seems impossible to deal with. And the saddest part is the black church adds to our problem by encouraging not taking responsibility. Waiting for someone else to solve our problems
Dr. DeGruy’s interview was enlightening because it joined psychological and sociological theories that have served to maintain the status quo. We have revitalize our desire to leave a legacy of greatness behind. My elders (cousins) were always willing to share their stories of accomplishments and challenges with me. It can still work. “We got this!”
This is one off the most thought provoking discussion, I worked with tweens and teens for years and if you take the time to talk, they don't like the position of the world they are living in and they have aspirations, but not many people to help them grow know generation of survivors to help them navigate this thing call surviving in blackness .I will get the book I'm 66 and raising a 6 year old my adopted child, I am trying to give her a replica of my life growing up.the village and basic safety structures.
Another match made on Earth!! Can you spend Sunday's with Dr. DeGruy like you spend Saturday's with Dr. Carr?? Just thinking on RUclips... love you both!!
I am from the same generation of your doctor and I went to Crenshaw high School too. It reminds me of the early seventies when Angela Davis came to Crenshaw high school and spoke to us.. that was a amazing experience..
I read Dr. Degruy's book after watching her video. I love this conversation. There was a time when grandparents were considered old and had a head full of grey hair. I know of 30 something year old grandparents and young men's OG in their twenties. Not that young people can not be wise, but we lost a generation of wisdom. And there are a lot of reasons as to why. This is awesome! ❤️
I am working on my capstone/dissertation on microaggressions against Black women in the workplace and everything that Dr. DeGruy discussed plays a role in how Black women are treated in the workplace. It’s so much to digest and I’m struggling with how to include all of this in my final paper. The truth needs to be told and not watered down to appease those in power.
The show got me in my bedroom saying Amen Amen Amen yessssssss Joy comes in the morning! Leaving this conversation feeling mentally well and spiritually well in some sense thank you both
I love love love Dr. Joy Degruy!!!! She was the first person I quoted in my dissertation using her book post traumatic slave disorder. This woman is 🔥🔥🔥🔥. Professor Hunter thank you for always striving for excellence in everything you do. Salute to you , sis🙌🏽🙌🏽💪🏽💪🏽💗💗
This is good to hear again. I discovered Dr. Joy Degruy’s work about two years ago and things made a lot of sense. I had to come back to these theories to help me with feeling some empathy towards my abusive mother and family. Listening is offering me perspective. My grandmother had my mama when she was 15 years old and by the time my grandma was 27 she had 8 kids. My mama used to tell me how she and her mama partied together and had so much fun together but my mama was negligent and immature. She was parentified and dealt with mental health issues and I try so hard to have empathy for her and this is helping me. My issues with my mother have been life long. Fucked up.
Appreciate the discussion! Evanston cannot be considered reparations though since you don't have to be a descendant of slavery to qualify, and not all descendants there will receive the vouchers. We cannot just label any and everything reparations. That's like saying Afirmative Action is reparations. Finally finished watching and Dr. DeGruy was just amazing as ever! Stumbling upon PTSS years ago changed my way of thinking back then by just confirming that I wasn't crazy and by validating my/our lived experiences. So happy to see her still dropping knowledge and everything else that was said during this whole show was on point!
I’ve learned sooo much in 3 hrs from this beautiful educated Queen, that I’ve learned from 6 yrs of college, and even 90% of my own elders in my family!!
I encourage the study guide. I bought this book some while ago. The study guide I got from the college. I have not read the whole book. I keep going back to it I am still waiting for you Dr DeGruy put it on auditable version. She had mention this on her live that she was doing during the pandemic. Thank you Professor Hunter.
Everyone in the world needs to hear this conversation. Thank you for posting the whole conversation Prof Hunter. Love you both. Knubia and refill. Come get this clean glass of water yall. You look thirsty.
Prof. K. Hunter and Dr. Joy are present!!! Blessings are profound and evolutionary!! I’am literally crying and typing this all at once. Let’s SERIOUSLY lean into this immaculate conversation. I, in honesty and truth, got up this AM so disenchanted. I haven’t felt hopeless in a long while…and this Conversation cross my POV. Many thank-you’s!!! 🧩🎭🥀🗝🖤🪶
I thoroughly enjoyed Dr. Degruy's insight, priceless. I'm estactic to know she lives in my home state and I have relatives in Stone Mountain.❤ Thank you Professor Hunter.
Joy Degruy and, by extension, her mentor Dr. Edwin Nichols are so full of potent information and insights. Professor Hunter, I loved that you played 'devil's advocate' with many of Dr. DeGruy's points. As a black man, there is a particular vibe among black women who talk and walk in power that is highly motivating and also highly comforting. There are these lil breaks where I know one of y'all are getting ready to go "Girrrrl.." lol. Great conversation, great information, great women. Salute.
WOW!!! Professor Hunter we would love ❤️ the idea 💡 "In Class with Dr Joy DeGru " , please somehow someway include in the Knarrative/Knubia community. This subject matter is so relative, it helps connect the dots. I was able to get my better half to watch this episode with me and again WOW!!!!.1976 till now, to make a long story short we've survived this oppression. 3 adult daughters, 4 grandchildren and now 1great granddaughter and so blessed that I'm able to sustain the idea of "Governance Structure ".Professor Karen Hunter I appreciate you and Knarrative/Knubia. Solid foundation. Thanks a million.
Prof Hunter, I didn't think it could get better than you, and Dr. Carr(much love and respect to Dr. Carr), buuuut...Prof Hunter, and Dr. DEGRUY?? It's CLOBBERING TIME!😆
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No matter how many times I hear the good Doctor DeGruy, I still want more. Thank you, Karen!
Ikr
Yes! Same!
Totally this, been in for well over a decade
Me too. It just reinforces my thoughts on these issues that affects us socially racially.
Yeah, I feel you 💯 percent🔥✊🏾
I don't know how ya'll landed on my RUclips feed, but I are am thrilled!!!!!.
When Dr. Degruy was talking about learned helplessness I can’t help but think of the door of no return. That’s where our learned helplessness started. 😢 Epigenetic
I disagree! These were captives: beaten, starved, raped, sick in body and mind, tortured, many broken , terrified but some- always some : defiant, outraged, enraged. The latter are epigenetic, too. Not all of us ever were or are defeated internally. The learned helplessness took generations, the creation of a divided class with no loyalty toward their African ancestry, paid informers, and so on. That learned helplessness gets stronger as we continue is the worst yet. People like Owens and yes, West and so many are the enemies of our own households and they choose this because they are self serving grifters. Kanye West was most certainly taught the opposite by his mother, Professor Donya West. And then she fell under the wheel? Why⁉️Whose idea was that clandestine BBL? Learned bah humbug! Forced, compelled and then accepted by grifters. When we stop the grifters, we’ll be well on our way to the open defiance needed to end the external and the internal. Our failure to act, repression feeds the monster. Knowledge is essential but action is supreme. I wish a ninja would talk about some good hair in my presence. It’s in our hands. Tired of these excuses now varnished by academia and talking heads . You got it; I’m epigenetically enraged. Most of “ the culture” needs to be expunged.
“Our leaders Came to do good but stayed to do well”…wow Dr. DeGruy
Dr. DeGruy is a life giver, because she says what needs to be said to set the record straight regarding our plight. Any thinking being in "The Hood" looks around and sees something is awry, something is underdeveloped, something has been skewed. And we also know that it's not entirely Black people's fault. This had to come from somewhere. Dr. Joy DeGruy looks beyond the effect and delves deeply into the cause. This is why she is a treasure, perhaps more than she even knows.
K.Hunter and Dr. Joy Degruy I commend you guys love what you do and what you bring to the table. Keep up the good work. Sankofor 🌍
I left America at 19, I'm from the projects in the South Bronx, I went to college in Rome and NEVER came back. Many of us are leaving going to Africa. Wherever you go anywhere is better than staying in the US
I’m glad you escaped
@@AliveBoldTVEscaped? We are treated the same way everywhere. Just like in the USa, (there is NO USa without US) they mask it differently.
@@marshatacaradine9459 you’re speaking very matter of factly about a very nuanced experience. I would invite you to listen & get curious instead.
As a social worker, Dr. DeGruy is one of my heroes. I have owned PTSS, quoted it, and have educated many folk for the decade that she has been on my radar.
Awesome Theresa 👌🏾
What do you say to a white person that says blacks havent been slaves in the last 155 years so how do blacks have PTSD?
PTSS is a justification for the dysfunctional behavior and the violence found in the black community . It's the result of generational trauma ,
( caused by slavery )being passed down to African Americans and excusing their violence in society . If this is true , then we must find the 5 black officers innocent for killing Tyre Nichols . After all aren't these 5 officers not responsible for their actions due to Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome .
@Steven Smith no, because thoughts and behaviors are different. No one can hold you responsible for your thoughts and emotions, that's why you get help in the form of therapy. But, society can, and does, absolutely hold you responsible for your behaviors. You're an adult. Adults don't act on every feeling they have when they have it.
Love love love Dr DeGruy her books should be a part of EVERY African’s library; especially if you have children ❤️🖤💚
I'm a 49 year old man and today October 23 2023 is the first time I've seen or heard of this great Woman,and I'm already WOWWED by the little I saw...I saw a tik tok with a snippet of a lecture and immediately started my research... although in my heart I knew the things she spoke about ,raping ,killing and lynching of slaves, black people ,etc ,I did not know that these heinous acts were ,on paper "legal" ..thank you Prof Degruy for your continued work....it is much appreciated..just proves that we are never too old to learn, never.
Amen 🙏🏼
Professor Karen, you keep raising the bar and I am here for it. My mamma was an older mother and I was teased a lot growing up because my mamma was older. Having babies at a very young age was something that was praised when I was younger. Waiting until you are older to have a child was frowned upon Professor Karen. I love what Dr. DeGruy sound about learned helplessness. There are Black people who demonize another Black people for leaving the hood, it is seen as anti-Black. I see anti-Black as telling a Black person they should not better themselves is very anti-Black and these messages are coming directly from US. We criminalize each other for just doing better. Thank you Professor Karen for this great segment.
I guess I’m sheltered. I’m just not around these types of black folks, and I’m mostly around black folks! I am not around Black folks criminalizing each other for doing better.
Dr. Hunter you and Dr. DeGruy look beautiful !!!!!
You know this got to be the ancestors. I JUST finished seeing an infamous pic of Kanye and Candice wearing "white lives matter" shirts. *deep sigh* Then saw black high school football players participating in a mock slave auction. I was trying to find a words for what some of us were going thru. Post traumatic slave syndrome is what we going thru.
It’s a form of Stockholm syndrome according to some researchers.
My mother used the term "legacy of slavery."
Karen Hunter and Joy DeGruy!!!!!!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️💨💨💨💗💗💗💗 my day has been made!
When my grandson became a teenager, I told my daughter that he needs to know not just that you love him but that you respect him. I got that from Dr. Joy 😊.
Two brilliant Black women giving us the remedy for the collective ailment 👏🏾. Education and engagement with each other is the 🔑
Another phenomenal black woman! I first met Dr. DeGruy when I worked at First Interstate Bank (Portland, OR) in 1987. The bank brought her in to do some "Affirmative Action" training. I learned a lot about people culturally and environmentally. Wait 'til y'all learn the true beginnings of the Statue of Liberty. Like Dr. Carr, and Professor Hunter, Dr. Joy DeGruy is a national treasure.
This is feeding my soul a year later! Incredible episode, Queens!!! ❤🙏🏾
Learned helplessness is why we must be very careful with how much of the public lynchings and injustice we consume. It creates "hopelessness " and "learned helplessness " that will cause us to "lay down" and not progress or turn to toxic entertainment and abusive substances to temporarily give us mental and emotional relief. "The system is working exactly the way it was designed to work". Stay vigilant. Don't give up!✊🏾 And make it a priority to pass the wealth, warnings and wisdom to the next generation.
Karen TY for having this Queen of Mother's 🕺🏾💫📚📚💫🕺🏾
Omg, I can't believe Dr. Joy is on your show. I love her!!
SHE IS ANOTHER FORM OF ANGELA DAVIS...AWESOME! WE APPRECIATE YOU DR. JOY AND KAREN!
No she is not. Let Angela Davis stay in her own lane.
my goodness 'my mom' 'you break my leg and complain that I limp' 'the system isnt broken" 'vacant self-esteem' wow I learned about learned helplessness and self-efficacy at Chicago State. Informed my teaching approach and life perspective. I would be afraid of us, too. Thank you for reaching back: soak beans overnite. I love your approach to these boys walking down the street (tears). Our role is not to cross the street.
"Would you be my Mom, too?" Dag, of all the things I expected to tug at my heart in this conversation, this one has me weeping. Blessings to Dr. DeGruy and that Mama and Daughter. ❤🙏🏿
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@@cherylmartinez3306 🤗
I could listen to this fabulous woman for hours, but I know she'd prefer for me to take action instead. Everything she says is so profoundly true and reaches us deeply if we but pay attention. I hate the term "master" teacher but we are sitting at the foot of greatness here.
Dr. DeGruy is a force. She is consistent.
That learned helplessness is like the lions who wouldn't leave the cage, even after it was gone. This was the best, Prof. Hunter; so glad to be a Knubian, because it boils over! And Dr. DeGruy, what you did w/those young men - acknowledge them - is what I always do when I run across some to encourage. We should all be that smart.
"Will you be my MOM too" God Bless Our Community ❤🙏🏾
Thank you Professor Hunter for having Dr. Joy De Gruy on your show disscussing these important issues as people of African descent. Both of you are present day versions of Angela Davis who are always about the business of presenting factual infomation for the purpose of uplifting and liberating our minds.
My mother used to constantly use that quote about co-opted Black leaders, how they "came in to do good, but ended up just doing well." She made sure we understood that. [12:39 juncture]
This was powerful and I sat and listened to every minute of it!
Wow!!
I'm sharing this with everyone I know👏👏👏
Professors Hunter and Dr. DeGruy...your beautiful spirits and passion for our people ❤ lift my heart and mind to such heights. I have been following you both for years. This interview brings me to tears. It feels vital and long overdue. I look forward to hearing more from you together. Your combined power and intellect are the prototype for us all. Thank you for your beautiful presence.
I knew a woman who told me after many years of asking her why she doesn't move out of a dangerous community she was living in, that we both grew up in, there were times when we would be talking on the phone and she would scream for me to hold on only to find out later she was dropping to the floor because people were shooting outside her house, after many years of repeatedly asking her why she hasnt moved away from there she finally said its because she didnt think she could make it anywhere else, I met her in 1987 this is 2022 and shes still in that same house and still ducking bullets, I had moved away long ago. Bobby Womack said this in his song called "Across 110th Street" he mentions how "families on the other side of town would catch hell without a ghetto around" Dr Degruy is right when she says this mentality is from being conditioned, trained not to want to even try to leave, that is for SOME because like she and I and I'm sure many of us knew better and wanted better than the conditions they constructed for our people. Professor Hunter, thank you for doing this show, please have Dr Degruy back on real soon so this process of enlightenment can continue, we eat it up because we need it ❤
❤❤❤❤ love her bless her… She is an amazing women… As a black man I say to my black men, protect her at all cost!!! ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
That last bit was so impactful. She really hit on the importance of community and how it is lacking today. We really need to focus inward and see our youth as the future, the leaders of tomorrow.
Enjoyed the explanation about being conditioned not to walk out of the door.
Dr. DeGruy just brings her expertise like family, so relatable and digestable........she's been on my faves list for many years and inspite of the tough subject matter I still manage to find joy through Joy's delivery ❣️
Thank you so much for this interview. I hadn't seen any recent interviews with Dr. DeGruy for a while. Now I know why; she's been in the trenches doing the work.
I felt this whole talk. Joy is the truth. Her bravery is phenomenal. I especially enjoyed the point about our male youth. They need us to trust them, talk to them, listen to them, empathize with them, co-create a better world with them. Respect is a 2-way street, if we want them to respect the wisdom of the elders, we need to respect their wisdom in a modern age too. This definitely needs to be seen far and wide!
Karen!! I have been waiting on this interview for years! My two favorites! Legendary!!
"Your projection of our violence is yours."
Deep and truth. They have a savage history towards us. I purchased PTSS some time ago and have been reading it in doses to give myself time to process it. I am so appreciative of Dr. Degruy and her work. Thank you Karen for having her on as I guest. I hope that she does become a regular light on your show.
Love love love her met her in Brooklyn at St Paul Community Baptist Church. Special Lady 🎉🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Dr Joy is definitely a Titan among critical thinkers I was introduced to her work before the pandemic and Dove head first in during the pandemic and it's fitting that she would end up on the Karen Hunter podcast thank you love it!!!
Thanks!
Thank you, Ms. Darden!
We need Dr. DeGruy in Class. It's gonna all tie together. That's class speak.
My son gave me a bootleg DVD (around 10 yrs. ago) called 'Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Dr. DeGruy' , he thought I might find interesting 🤔
It TOTALLY Blew my Mind!!!!! 🤯It was like my Spirit/Soul & Mind suddenly Connected... I was so depressed & confused at the time, but after watching this blurry video, (I usually refused to watch any bootleg disc) but this message had reached deep into my being & sent me down a rabbit hole of information that still hasn't stopped;
Dr. Joy DeGruy is my SHERO ❤
Absolutely love Dr Degruy. Pushed the play button so fast on This one.
This woman Dr Joy DeGruy is BRINGING IT! She is BRILLIANT! Thank you 🙏🏿 Karen Hunter!
Dr. Joy is my shero! I have her book on Posttraumatic Slave Syndrome and it is so prolific! As a doctoral student, I look up to her and I am so grateful for her work in the social sciences and for the culture.
Wow.. This interview was emotional and moving for me. Especially when she spoke about talking to the group of young men coming from school. Love love Dr.Joy.. Her name fits her well. Thanks Sis Hunter.(The cleanest glass of water on these airways). Love you 🙏🏾
8:46 Dr. Joy DeGruy and Professor Karen Hunter ⭐💎⭐💎⭐ 2 of my favorites together. This is so beautiful. Gratitude for all your work.💎🙏🏾💎💜✨
Just use your Common Sense! I love Dr. Joy DeGruy and she got me all fired up...
Read the book and found it so enlightening. Helped me understand lot of things and gave practical advice to heal. I have recommended the book many times
I just stumbled across your channel this is a great interview so much knowledge. All the obstacles place in our way. It almost seems impossible to deal with. And the saddest part is the black church adds to our problem by encouraging not taking responsibility. Waiting for someone else to solve our problems
I love me some Dr. DeGRUY!!!
WOW! Vacant Esteem🙌🙌👏👏Powerful! Learned a new phrase! Dr. Joy is 💎💎
Dr. DeGruy’s interview was enlightening because it joined psychological and sociological theories that have served to maintain the status quo. We have revitalize our desire to leave a legacy of greatness behind. My elders (cousins) were always willing to share their stories of accomplishments and challenges with me. It can still work. “We got this!”
This is one off the most thought provoking discussion, I worked with tweens and teens for years and if you take the time to talk, they don't like the position of the world they are living in and they have aspirations, but not many people to help them grow know generation of survivors to help them navigate this thing call surviving in blackness .I will get the book I'm 66 and raising a 6 year old my adopted child, I am trying to give her a replica of my life growing up.the village and basic safety structures.
Dr DrGruy is so BRILLIANT I had to rewind it to listen to her brilliance twice!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I bought this book when it came out. It really opened my mind and affirmed my view. Get it today!
Omg!!! Dr. Joy DeGruy I love you. You are speaking straight facts. My whole family in a nut shell...DAMM!
2 of my absolute favorite thinkers, producers, organizers, leaders in the world!!
I'm so honored to watch this thoughtful and productive conversation.
16:42 children raising children is an interesting theme to unpack
This segment brought me to tears. I want FAMILY back. My kids don't have the grandparents I had. thanks to knubians though I'm finding community🙏🏼
A WHOLE WORD!!! More Dr. Joy DeGruy and Karen Hunter PLEEEAASSSEE!!!!
Lord have mercy, I'm at work and listening to Dr. Joy DeGruy's testimony of the young girl who called her mom and I'm at work crying.
I love Dr.DeGruy, I learned a lot from her about our people and our behavior because of the oppression and racism that's embedded in our lives.
Another match made on Earth!! Can you spend Sunday's with Dr. DeGruy like you spend Saturday's with Dr. Carr?? Just thinking on RUclips... love you both!!
I am from the same generation of your doctor and I went to Crenshaw high School too. It reminds me of the early seventies when Angela Davis came to Crenshaw high school and spoke to us.. that was a amazing experience..
I read Dr. Degruy's book after watching her video. I love this conversation. There was a time when grandparents were considered old and had a head full of grey hair. I know of 30 something year old grandparents and young men's OG in their twenties. Not that young people can not be wise, but we lost a generation of wisdom. And there are a lot of reasons as to why. This is awesome! ❤️
In tears that we are afraid of our own youth... to their detriment. smh. Please keep sharing the knowledge, Prof!
I am working on my capstone/dissertation on microaggressions against Black women in the workplace and everything that Dr. DeGruy discussed plays a role in how Black women are treated in the workplace. It’s so much to digest and I’m struggling with how to include all of this in my final paper. The truth needs to be told and not watered down to appease those in power.
I just listened a second time and will desimminate to coworkers, friends, and family!
My homegirl Dr. Joy DeGruy was a joy to watch with you Prof. Hunter. Thank you 💝💝💝
The show got me in my bedroom saying Amen Amen Amen yessssssss Joy comes in the morning! Leaving this conversation feeling mentally well and spiritually well in some sense thank you both
I love love love Dr. Joy Degruy!!!! She was the first person I quoted in my dissertation using her book post traumatic slave disorder. This woman is 🔥🔥🔥🔥. Professor Hunter thank you for always striving for excellence in everything you do. Salute to you , sis🙌🏽🙌🏽💪🏽💪🏽💗💗
I love Dr. DeGruy, she has been, one of my most favorite teachers. For over 30 years. She is magnificent!
This is brilliant. Thank you for having Dr. Joy on the show. Just ordered the book.
Thank you, Ladies!!!!! Sheer BRILLIANCE!!!!!!
This is good to hear again. I discovered Dr. Joy Degruy’s work about two years ago and things made a lot of sense. I had to come back to these theories to help me with feeling some empathy towards my abusive mother and family. Listening is offering me perspective. My grandmother had my mama when she was 15 years old and by the time my grandma was 27 she had 8 kids. My mama used to tell me how she and her mama partied together and had so much fun together but my mama was negligent and immature. She was parentified and dealt with mental health issues and I try so hard to have empathy for her and this is helping me. My issues with my mother have been life long. Fucked up.
"Can you be my mother too?"
"They were chomping at the bit to tell me their dreams." My LORD, the power of Black love. 🙏🏿
Appreciate the discussion! Evanston cannot be considered reparations though since you don't have to be a descendant of slavery to qualify, and not all descendants there will receive the vouchers. We cannot just label any and everything reparations. That's like saying Afirmative Action is reparations.
Finally finished watching and Dr. DeGruy was just amazing as ever! Stumbling upon PTSS years ago changed my way of thinking back then by just confirming that I wasn't crazy and by validating my/our lived experiences. So happy to see her still dropping knowledge and everything else that was said during this whole show was on point!
Professor Hunter please invite Dr Joy DeGruy back again and again and again!
Love her! I have been paying attention to Dr. DeGruy since first seeing her on Like It Is with Gil Noble.
I’ve learned sooo much in 3 hrs from this beautiful educated Queen, that I’ve learned from 6 yrs of college, and even 90% of my own elders in my family!!
Two beautiful, educated and gifted women. This blessed my soul, my spirit and my mind. Thank you 💝💝💝
WOW....thank you Karen Hunter for shining the LIGHT on the darkness
I encourage the study guide. I bought this book some while ago. The study guide I got from the college. I have not read the whole book. I keep going back to it I am still waiting for you Dr DeGruy put it on auditable version. She had mention this on her live that she was doing during the pandemic. Thank you Professor Hunter.
I LOVE HER!!! I'M JUST NOW DISCOVERING THIS VIDEO
Love the not crossing the street illustration. That’s me all the way. Don’t stereotype and judge our youth. Engage and embrace them. 💜🔥
Always working towards " How do it free us ". This here 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 ❤️👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I've met her and spoken to her twice..what a great, Beautiful and informative soul
Everyone in the world needs to hear this conversation. Thank you for posting the whole conversation Prof Hunter. Love you both. Knubia and refill. Come get this clean glass of water yall. You look thirsty.
I agree!
Knowledge is the key for preparation. Great interview love Joy passion and energy.💕
Prof. K. Hunter and Dr. Joy are present!!! Blessings are profound and evolutionary!! I’am literally crying and typing this all at once. Let’s SERIOUSLY lean into this immaculate conversation. I, in honesty and truth, got up this AM so disenchanted. I haven’t felt hopeless in a long while…and this Conversation cross my POV. Many thank-you’s!!! 🧩🎭🥀🗝🖤🪶
Thank you, Karen for having Dr. DeGruy on your show! Just life affirming and changing every time I hear her speak!
I thoroughly enjoyed Dr. Degruy's insight, priceless. I'm estactic to know she lives in my home state and I have relatives in Stone Mountain.❤
Thank you Professor Hunter.
Joy Degruy and, by extension, her mentor Dr. Edwin Nichols are so full of potent information and insights. Professor Hunter, I loved that you played 'devil's advocate' with many of Dr. DeGruy's points. As a black man, there is a particular vibe among black women who talk and walk in power that is highly motivating and also highly comforting. There are these lil breaks where I know one of y'all are getting ready to go "Girrrrl.." lol. Great conversation, great information, great women. Salute.
WOW!!! Professor Hunter we would love ❤️ the idea 💡 "In Class with Dr Joy DeGru " , please somehow someway include in the Knarrative/Knubia community. This subject matter is so relative, it helps connect the dots. I was able to get my better half to watch this episode with me and again WOW!!!!.1976 till now, to make a long story short we've survived this oppression. 3 adult daughters, 4 grandchildren and now 1great granddaughter and so blessed that I'm able to sustain the idea of "Governance Structure ".Professor Karen Hunter I appreciate you and Knarrative/Knubia. Solid foundation. Thanks a million.
She would have to want to do it.
Thank you - Powerful Truth!!!!
Prof Hunter, I didn't think it could get better than you, and Dr. Carr(much love and respect to Dr. Carr), buuuut...Prof Hunter, and Dr. DEGRUY?? It's CLOBBERING TIME!😆