Just as you are talking about bikes with character, you show us the CCM. This bobber in particular, with all its engineering exposed, is a very distinguished bike, and I dare say, given the riding position, that it is a perfect "Bob racer". Thanks for the video!
We are so lucky to have beautiful towns like Stamford and Oundle to disturb the peace in. I know looks are subjective, but to me the C.C.M.s are stunning, and you look cool on that bobber Darcy.
Judging by the comments section, the Spitfire appears to be somewhat polarizing. Different strokes for different folks. As for me, I love everything about this bike. It looks like one of those retro-futuristic bikes you'd find in 1990's comic books or anime. Imagine this bike with whitewall tires and leather swingarm bags.
@@carver7689 We’re surprised at the hatred tbh. Of course, anything that’s not the run of the mill won’t appeal to the masses. They do a whitewall tyre version as it happens
@@MrDarcy-OlMan A quick GIS showed a few variations people have done. The whitewalls look fantastic, and someone even fabbed a set of leather saddlebags on one. Very cool! Looking forward to the Maverick review.
13:15 that's just an unrealistic price for what is not really a practical bike, which puts it in the 'high price toy' category for those who have deep pockets and don't want or need to travel far 😊
Ooh, CCM, nice frame . . . I can see a '40s Indian Scout/Flat-tracking snorter with leather bags, & a Vincentesque (bladed 'Girdraulic') front end; all bright red of course, including the wheels. PS. Maybe a 'Millyard 1200 Chief' too? . . who'd not want that beast in their Xmas stocking! : )
15:55 sounds like a noisy bugger too, personally I have a saying which is "there is a fine line between a bike sounding nice and sounding annoyingly loud"
Fantastic bikes. Poor reliability is a load of cobblers and members of the facebook group love their Spitfires. The only issue is that many owners realise they've got an awful lot of money tied up in a machine which won't do everything. Hence a lot of them get sold, with low mileage. CCM should make some side bags and a slightly larger fuel tank. Just to give them a smidge more practicality. 👍
Nice looking bikes. Of the two I'd go for the bobber. Smaller companies don't have the economy of scale so I understand the price point. As a second bike, a toy to bring to bike meets, I think it's awesome.
I would also prefer an analog dial and no keyless anything... just the regular key start... You can't seem to have this type of tech in good cars anymore, let's not go this nonsense route on bikes as well 🙆♂ Great review! Looking forward to the Maverick one
Thanks for the review chaps! I am interested in these. I prefer the Maverick over the bobber (and like the scrambler and flat tracker even more.) FYI: There are 66 Spitfire variants for sale on eBay at present; the majority of them are bobbers, most of them have very low mileage. Make of that what you will…
I look forward to hearing how it performs at LOW speed. I have to ride about 10 miles from home, in any given direction, before escaping the bloody 20mph surveillance!
That bike looks nice, but for your size the seat needs to be back 2inch from the tank and 2 inch lower, it looks like you are suspended in the air. Do love the sound though.
Great review, FYI Every other service (so every 8k miles) according to the CCM website, the side stand and spring are both replaced, so that doesn't say much for the quality of the side stand.
I wholeheartedly agree that anything but an analogue dial is suited to these CCM bikes. I find it mind-numbing that it's not even offered as an option. Who needs digital when the bike is classic and raw and has no rider aids?!?
I love the looks of the Bobber, but for the same price I'd buy the Triumph Bonneville Bobber instead as 1200cc. I really hope you and your dad are able to get hold of one for review. In fact, I thought you might have bought one as your new bike
I'd be in the market for this kind of bike. Have a V7 special and Harley FXR and thinking of something else additional for short rides. My concern would be the single engine (vibration) and whether it's fast enough? At this price point a new Norton is not a whole lot more and seems much more bike. Could also throw a few grand into the V7 and make it very bespoke and light too.
We cover vibration in the next ccm video with the Maverick. It’s not actually that bad ; just at high rpm and more when you come off the throttle. I barely noticed it but some people these days only know silky smooth engines
I had the opportunity to visit the factory years back when the clews actually ran the place. I was really disappointed. It’s just an assembly plant for parts…Chinese stuff at that . Nothing is manufactured and after service care seemed to be shocking by what I heard. Great looking bikes for sure… but for the money id prob buy a DOT instead, if I was going for weekend bike.
Other than the raf100 this bobber is the most beatiful bike of CCM lineup but that speedometer got to go, only guzzi and the z900rs have done it right. That engine looks exactly like the one on the AJP pr7
Three years of Maverick ownership speaks for itself as by now most of my bikes would have been traded in. WRT the side stand you quickly learn the trick of dismounting then lowering the stand when it then becomes more accessible.
The old display on my 2018 scrambler is way nicer than that horrible round thing !! And the bike will only cut out at low revs if you are a throttle blipper. They don’t like to be blipped😜🤣. I’ve never ridden a bike that’s more fun and more involving to ride (And I’ve ridden many).
Its got a 600 husky engine in it so it will be quick . Ccm is a su day back lane toy . And a expensive toy at that . There are a excellent looking bike . Love them or hate them there a modern bike that looks different to the rest .
Not for me (modern looking in most regards. Looks impractical and uncomfortable) but looks great fun. Maybe the funky hipsters (bless 'em!) will like it? Love British brands to do well.
Met a fella with one of these he only had bad things to say about it from bad reliability poor finishing leading to premature corrosion, to bad customer service trying to resolve issues.
I quite like them but they are not for everybody and for the price you could argue, there are better options out there. It’s all opinions at the end of the day.
Had a CCM Six for around three month before selling. In summary, poor engine, failing battery, harsh ride. Lots of nice parts which don't work together.
That scrambler is gorgeous, but I think the other bike looks like those custom BMW airheads that everyone lops the rear subframe off of to fit those bobber floating seats. Just looks a little unfinished with that tiny short seat
My 2011 aircooled ducati monster has the fast idle lever as well. I can tell you from years of experience it isnt nice to have its a bit of an annoyance.
CCM could do much better bikes than their current offerings. I miss the days of the 520 twinshock motocross bikes from CCM, their hayday of fine craftmanship and performance. The current bikes are not very appealing to me, I think it's the engine and hodgepodge of thrown together parts, read UGLY. First on Race Day!🏁🏁
Not a huge fan of the bobber but that's just down to personal taste, I totally agree about analogue clocks & that goes for both models as it would suit the style much better. I'm with the ole man about the fob I'd prefer a key to be honest. Just an idea if you're in the area again how about posting in the community saying where you'd be so people can get a proper look at the bike unless that'll make things awkward when doing a video of course then totally understand.
Old dated supermoto engines and awful chinese clocks but overall cool looking, built in small numbers to avoid emission laws hence so many variants using same motor to get around the loophole.
they feel like a toy compared to Triumph Bobber, but i guess they’re a different thing. i’d like the seat a bit further back. really beautiful. i’d have one if i was rich. i’m 6 foot and with all gear on it looks tiny. wish bike manufacturers would start making physically bigger bikes.
I'm not a fan of CCM, bought a brand new R30 in 04, and it leaked fuel from the tank all over my nads the engine and exhaust, not what you need. They finally agreed to replace the tank after weeks of phone calls, and while waiting for the call to get it done, they went bust!! Left me lumbered with the bag of crap.
All that billet ali and the brake master cylinder is stuck up on the air on a bit of bent metal again..why oh why. Love the Maverick, not keen on the Bobber though.
Always seem to get poor reviews from previous owners and always a lot of new'ish second hand models for sale. Although I do quite like the idea and looks of a CCM for a lazy Sunday afternoon jaunt the aforementioned puts me right off. Would have to be the Triumph Bobber every time for me.
They are not available in the US or the EU. I suspect the issue with the US is the price they would need to charge, although I guess you could privately import one yourself?
I think what might have confused you is that both fork legs are designed for brake calipers, but the right one has a blanking plate over the redundant caliper mounts, which at first glance looks like a caliper itself.
CCM make some nice bikes, but I don't understand bobbers. They are utterly impractical and, in my opinion, rather silly looking. The Union Jack scrambler is quite nice though.
😂 it's not all bad i have a foggy flat tracker from back in 2021 5000 miles now its not bad it's character 😂 definitely a marmite bike but I love it now 😮
Darcy, mate, your height is irrelevant. What matters on a bike is your leg length! Humans do not have leg lengths in regular proportion to their height - some have long bodies and short legs, and vice versa. I like the lightness of these bikes but they are expensive for a single. I don't like that keyless ignition, and I wonder how that nylon tank will deal with the higher ethanol fuels that are undoubtedly coming along? I'm not a Bobber fan either, with that seat hanging off the back as if you are on some farm implement like a plough, rather than a bike. Both mudguards are far too short; the front one will allow the engine and rad to get covered in shyte, the back one will give you a black line up your back like a skunk, from mucky water thrown off the tyre, and its shortness also necessitates that ugly bracket to mount the number plate. I'm prepared to believe it looks better in the flesh than on video, but..... Not for me I'm afraid. Not a bike I could live with.
@@JoJo-hc4dj So you think every one has perfect body / leg length ratio? I am the living proof that's not the case. I am about the same height as the Missenden Flyer, for instance. He has a 34" inseam IIRC and I have 29". He has long legs for his height, I have short legs for my height. 5" makes a heck of a difference in what bikes fit you.
We give our height so people can gauge what we look like on the motorcycle. We are not specifically referring to seat height and reach to the ground, we are referring to all aspects of fit including arm length, etc. That is why we don't give inside leg length because it is a combination of the whole body 👍🏼
I'm not 100% sure but I vaguely remember being told that the tank you can see is just a cover for the real tank underneath. (but I might be wrong, it was a while ago when they first came out)
So, I'm 4 days from getting back on a 8k mile trip on one (2020 Spit Six). (UK to Nordkapp and back.) I would wager my bike is the CCM which has gone the furthest from home, with many countires in europe now ticked off (By its own steam), and clocked the most miles on it. On and off road. (Including a bunch of the TET) For me personally, I'll never sell the bike, I took it from the factory (I picked it up from their place) with a bunch of my customisiations, and realised I needed to make many more to make it mine, and make it do what I wanted to do. I've custom made luggage systems, redone many electrics on it, and reworked a bunch to make it more hardy. I would not recommend the bike to anyone who wants to put it in a display case, or to someone without the willpower to play with it and repair a few things. I would reccomend it to anyone who wants to mess around with it and make it theirs. I've made mine into a tourer. Is it the most effective tourer? Hell no. Is it a very unique tourer that can smash back road and gravel? Yes. Do I love riding every minute of it? Yes. Have I ran out of fuel on it? A few times and now always carry a fuel bag with me on long trips. Is there anywhere I wouldn't ride it? With the exception of motorways no, the engine, suspension and drivetrain eat up everything. It is an odd bike, and I won't claim it is the best looking, some hate it and some love it. The only thing that matters is I love it.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan They aren't a Triumph, Ducati or KTM, and won't bring with it the views they may. And as much I would encourage people to try one, they aren't for the vast majority of riders in my opinion. Much like electric bikes they devide the viewership. I agree it's a shame you havent had the uptake you would like, but at least you got to ride a few great machines.
Hi kedwardsTwo. It's nice to hear a honest review from an owner. I've got a Bobber and have travelled across the country on it several times but would love to speak to you about your touring options. I've had a few ideas but nothing quite suited. My plan for the future is to do a leisurely tour around Europe with some friends, so an improved luggage option would help. Cheers Dan
A far too expensive parts bin special that has limited appeal to most people IMO. I just don't get the appeal. Old tech engine of dubious quality. Resale values are also very poor I suspect. Buy at your peril.
What I've manage to find is that they have used Rotax, Suzuki and Kymco engines. No idea which is in this one but those three don't sound too dubious to me 🤷♂
in Canada CCM is a hockey skate...for my taste the lines on this bike are wacko...wheel base way too short...seat way too high over the rear wheel...a hot mess really.
Its significantly more character, handles better, sounds better, gets more attention. The Triumph Bobber with the larger engine of course would be quicker on motorways and at higher speeds 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Hmm..Ive had a Triumph bobber Black for 4 years and I have also rode the CCM and I wouldn't say handling is better, its a matter for personal taste.
You know what would be a great comparison video! The CCM Bobber and the Husqvarna Svartpilen. I love the looks of the Svartpilen and the 401cc goes faster the the numbers say, as you mentioned about the Bobber.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I would say the royal Enfield interceptor, the hunter and also triumph 400 scram are all good looking motorcycles. I do like your channel, but I hate that awful looking machine.
They sound horrible. I know it’s personal taste but when you rev them out , the racket they make is not pleasant. If you live in the country around horses and dogs and stuff, the noise would do my head in. It’s simply not an attractive sound.
Clewes Competition Machines, of Bolton. Not my sort of thing. Looks like something which a circus clown would ride around the ring on. Where is the back end? Noisy and anti-social It's a shame because CCM obviously have the technical competence to produce a quality bike. Make something which looks nice and isn't aimed at the wealthy hooligan.
Sorry guys but it is pretty well known they are basically a ‘parts bin’ special with poor owner reliability reviews. I love the brand but it’s not ‘made in Britain’.
It’s made in Bolton Lancashire, and they are amazingly reliable. This lump is so simple there little to go wrong. I’ve got a 2018 scrambler and it’s been exemplary.
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The grass looks so much greener on your side of the pond! I love the looks of that bike! Wish we had them here in the states.
Awesome looking bike very suited to the lovely Stamford surrounding. Thanks for the review and lovely scenery ❤
Just as you are talking about bikes with character, you show us the CCM. This bobber in particular, with all its engineering exposed, is a very distinguished bike, and I dare say, given the riding position, that it is a perfect "Bob racer". Thanks for the video!
I think they are one of the best bikes out there absolutely stunning.
We are so lucky to have beautiful towns like Stamford and Oundle to disturb the peace in. I know looks are subjective, but to me the C.C.M.s are stunning, and you look cool on that bobber Darcy.
I'm about the same vintage as the old fella, these remind me of Harris and Spondon customs back in the 70's. Very cool indeed.
The CCM bobber must be polarising, because I love it and I hope to buy one as my first bike.
Loved those shots of Stamford paired with that music at the end.
The sound. Gave me a small. Election.🎉😂
Great review Gentleman, also very personable with passers by. Watching from Dubai.
Sweetaz. Love de bike.n the composite structure n flavour of de video. Classy..well done 2 sirs.❤🎉😂
Judging by the comments section, the Spitfire appears to be somewhat polarizing. Different strokes for different folks. As for me, I love everything about this bike. It looks like one of those retro-futuristic bikes you'd find in 1990's comic books or anime. Imagine this bike with whitewall tires and leather swingarm bags.
@@carver7689 We’re surprised at the hatred tbh. Of course, anything that’s not the run of the mill won’t appeal to the masses. They do a whitewall tyre version as it happens
@@MrDarcy-OlMan A quick GIS showed a few variations people have done. The whitewalls look fantastic, and someone even fabbed a set of leather saddlebags on one. Very cool! Looking forward to the Maverick review.
13:15 that's just an unrealistic price for what is not really a practical bike, which puts it in the 'high price toy' category for those who have deep pockets and don't want or need to travel far 😊
Ooh, CCM, nice frame . . . I can see a '40s Indian Scout/Flat-tracking snorter with leather bags, & a Vincentesque (bladed 'Girdraulic') front end; all bright red of course, including the wheels.
PS. Maybe a 'Millyard 1200 Chief' too? . . who'd not want that beast in their Xmas stocking! : )
15:55 sounds like a noisy bugger too, personally I have a saying which is "there is a fine line between a bike sounding nice and sounding annoyingly loud"
Fantastic bikes. Poor reliability is a load of cobblers and members of the facebook group love their Spitfires. The only issue is that many owners realise they've got an awful lot of money tied up in a machine which won't do everything. Hence a lot of them get sold, with low mileage.
CCM should make some side bags and a slightly larger fuel tank. Just to give them a smidge more practicality. 👍
Nice looking bikes. Of the two I'd go for the bobber. Smaller companies don't have the economy of scale so I understand the price point. As a second bike, a toy to bring to bike meets, I think it's awesome.
Omg what a thing. So lucky you have that brand available.
When I was a kid, a neighbour had a ccm motocross, ffycin beast
I would also prefer an analog dial and no keyless anything... just the regular key start... You can't seem to have this type of tech in good cars anymore, let's not go this nonsense route on bikes as well 🙆♂
Great review! Looking forward to the Maverick one
Looks fantastic
Just lovely, they build bikes for individualists, just right for trigger ❄️
Conformers can always buy a GS 😂
I really like this style
Thanks for the review chaps! I am interested in these.
I prefer the Maverick over the bobber (and like the scrambler and flat tracker even more.)
FYI: There are 66 Spitfire variants for sale on eBay at present; the majority of them are bobbers, most of them have very low mileage. Make of that what you will…
@@longjonwhite the Maverick review will be coming shortly 👍🏼
I look forward to hearing how it performs at LOW speed. I have to ride about 10 miles from home, in any given direction, before escaping the bloody 20mph surveillance!
That bike looks nice, but for your size the seat needs to be back 2inch from the tank and 2 inch lower, it looks like you are suspended in the air. Do love the sound though.
Great review, FYI Every other service (so every 8k miles) according to the CCM website, the side stand and spring are both replaced, so that doesn't say much for the quality of the side stand.
Personally i prefer and analog too for my bike as i sometimes the light can distract my vision a bit a night. The bike look sick tho
A bike for people who look at themselves in the mirror too long or shop windows. I know two people with huge egos who would love this bike.
You definitely couldn’t do that on one of those black adv bikes
I wholeheartedly agree that anything but an analogue dial is suited to these CCM bikes. I find it mind-numbing that it's not even offered as an option. Who needs digital when the bike is classic and raw and has no rider aids?!?
You mean anything but an analogue dial DOESN'T suit these bikes...
I love the looks of the Bobber, but for the same price I'd buy the Triumph Bonneville Bobber instead as 1200cc. I really hope you and your dad are able to get hold of one for review. In fact, I thought you might have bought one as your new bike
I'm on the look for a new bike. Sadly, outside of the UK getting a hold of those fantastic bikes is near impossible.
Have considered one.
Hopefully they will do with a ignition key one day.
I'd be in the market for this kind of bike. Have a V7 special and Harley FXR and thinking of something else additional for short rides. My concern would be the single engine (vibration) and whether it's fast enough? At this price point a new Norton is not a whole lot more and seems much more bike. Could also throw a few grand into the V7 and make it very bespoke and light too.
We cover vibration in the next ccm video with the Maverick. It’s not actually that bad ; just at high rpm and more when you come off the throttle. I barely noticed it but some people these days only know silky smooth engines
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thanks that's good to know. Is it less than a V7? I noticed my V7 smoothed out after about 2k.
Great looking bikes l love them ccm heritage from off road bikes. Do you know what Dy lines are for 😂😂. Great place Stamford
I had the opportunity to visit the factory years back when the clews actually ran the place.
I was really disappointed. It’s just an assembly plant for parts…Chinese stuff at that .
Nothing is manufactured and after service care seemed to be shocking by what I heard.
Great looking bikes for sure… but for the money id prob buy a DOT instead, if I was going for weekend bike.
It looks lovely but maybe for an hour blat be fine. I think for less money a Triumph bobber thin front tyre and ape bars 😊
Other than the raf100 this bobber is the most beatiful bike of CCM lineup but that speedometer got to go, only guzzi and the z900rs have done it right. That engine looks exactly like the one on the AJP pr7
Three years of Maverick ownership speaks for itself as by now most of my bikes would have been traded in. WRT the side stand you quickly learn the trick of dismounting then lowering the stand when it then becomes more accessible.
@@GordonHunter great to hear. Our Maverick review is coming out on Tuesday 👍🏼
The chain looks to have no protection. Your trousers might get stuck or at least after oiling the chain your clothes get oil on them.
I would think I might own one if sold in America
Super cool video 😊. Nice bike also.
Thanks 👍🏼
The old display on my 2018 scrambler is way nicer than that horrible round thing !!
And the bike will only cut out at low revs if you are a throttle blipper. They don’t like to be blipped😜🤣. I’ve never ridden a bike that’s more fun and more involving to ride (And I’ve ridden many).
Would rather see two analog type gauges but a nict bike.😊
Its got a 600 husky engine in it so it will be quick . Ccm is a su day back lane toy . And a expensive toy at that . There are a excellent looking bike . Love them or hate them there a modern bike that looks different to the rest .
Not for me (modern looking in most regards. Looks impractical and uncomfortable) but looks great fun. Maybe the funky hipsters (bless 'em!) will like it? Love British brands to do well.
I own one it's like riding a road drill
Met a fella with one of these he only had bad things to say about it from bad reliability poor finishing leading to premature corrosion, to bad customer service trying to resolve issues.
Don't believe everything you get told
I quite like them but they are not for everybody and for the price you could argue, there are better options out there. It’s all opinions at the end of the day.
It sounds like it's a compression release kick start away from awesome. Oh, and key with analog dial too.)
Had a CCM Six for around three month before selling. In summary, poor engine, failing battery, harsh ride. Lots of nice parts which don't work together.
That scrambler is gorgeous, but I think the other bike looks like those custom BMW airheads that everyone lops the rear subframe off of to fit those bobber floating seats. Just looks a little unfinished with that tiny short seat
My 2011 aircooled ducati monster has the fast idle lever as well. I can tell you from years of experience it isnt nice to have its a bit of an annoyance.
CCM could do much better bikes than their current offerings. I miss the days of the 520 twinshock motocross bikes from CCM, their hayday of fine craftmanship and performance. The current bikes are not very appealing to me, I think it's the engine and hodgepodge of thrown together parts, read UGLY. First on Race Day!🏁🏁
I love the look, but what is that 600 single like, does it vibrate much? I could not live with that side stand!
it's a twin
@@pl7868they are thumpers with twin exhausts.
No vibrations that are bothersome. At high rpm it vibrates a bit when you come off the throttle, but no way a problem.
Not a huge fan of the bobber but that's just down to personal taste, I totally agree about analogue clocks & that goes for both models as it would suit the style much better. I'm with the ole man about the fob I'd prefer a key to be honest. Just an idea if you're in the area again how about posting in the community saying where you'd be so people can get a proper look at the bike unless that'll make things awkward when doing a video of course then totally understand.
Not a bobber fan. They either fit you or dont. The scrambler looks ok
The wheels just look a bit too small imo, something looks off about it. Good to see another british brand though doing something different.
Old dated supermoto engines and awful chinese clocks but overall cool looking, built in small numbers to avoid emission laws hence so many variants using same motor to get around the loophole.
Structure wise it looks good, but the finishing seems to be not that great, it's as if random parts of various colours have been integrated together.
Tinted rear view mirrors are not road legal are they?
All modern retro bikes should have analog tach and speedos.
they feel like a toy compared to Triumph Bobber, but i guess they’re a different thing. i’d like the seat a bit further back. really beautiful. i’d have one if i was rich. i’m 6 foot and with all gear on it looks tiny. wish bike manufacturers would start making physically bigger bikes.
Any comment on what boots Mr Darcy is wearing in this vid? they look pretty good
They are Falco boots 👍🏼
Hopefully, if one buys one, they'll throw in one of those helmet wipers.
Man, a new bike that cuts out is worrying… regardless of the frequency. CCM needs to address that asap
Nice 👍👍
I'm not a fan of CCM, bought a brand new R30 in 04, and it leaked fuel from the tank all over my nads the engine and exhaust, not what you need. They finally agreed to replace the tank after weeks of phone calls, and while waiting for the call to get it done, they went bust!! Left me lumbered with the bag of crap.
That was 20 years ago and the business is very different now
Nice looking bike not available outside UK. Not sure they would do so well here. The pot holes and kangaroos would not be overly safe outside the CBD.
Stunning 😊
seems interesting
All that billet ali and the brake master cylinder is stuck up on the air on a bit of bent metal again..why oh why. Love the Maverick, not keen on the Bobber though.
Always seem to get poor reviews from previous owners and always a lot of new'ish second hand models for sale. Although I do quite like the idea and looks of a CCM for a lazy Sunday afternoon jaunt the aforementioned puts me right off. Would have to be the Triumph Bobber every time for me.
Do you think CCM would import into the States?
Not sure, would be worth asking CCM
They are not available in the US or the EU. I suspect the issue with the US is the price they would need to charge, although I guess you could privately import one yourself?
U can listen to reviews but u have to test ride a bike to really get the feel of it.
Is it my eyes, or are there 2 different size rotors on the front wheel?
@@domicam100 there is only one brake disc 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan 👍
I think what might have confused you is that both fork legs are designed for brake calipers, but the right one has a blanking plate over the redundant caliper mounts, which at first glance looks like a caliper itself.
Also, I know the top spec Maverick option comes with a twin disc setup, so perhaps they offer the same upgrade for the Bobber.
If you go for the "Ultimate" trim level package, it does have dual discs up front according to their webpage.
I want one
Bobbers always look unfinished to me. I am looking forward to your review of the other CCM. Stupid side stand. What were CCM thinking of? Nick
The stand on the Maverick is much better! Seems that there's a lot of hate for the Bobbers.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Yeah, I can't stand them.
Hand made in Bolton so it's bound to be expensive but you pay for exclusivity, as always.
I'm surprised it has any front fender at all. It IS a bobber, after all.
CCM make some nice bikes, but I don't understand bobbers. They are utterly impractical and, in my opinion, rather silly looking. The Union Jack scrambler is quite nice though.
@@olethorhermansen5696 the Maverick review is coming soon 👍🏼
Theyre an odd looking if not ugly bike,a bit of a dogs breakfast styling wise,i do like your channel though.
Love the looks but hate the sound
😂 it's not all bad i have a foggy flat tracker from back in 2021 5000 miles now its not bad it's character 😂 definitely a marmite bike but I love it now 😮
Darcy, mate, your height is irrelevant. What matters on a bike is your leg length! Humans do not have leg lengths in regular proportion to their height - some have long bodies and short legs, and vice versa.
I like the lightness of these bikes but they are expensive for a single. I don't like that keyless ignition, and I wonder how that nylon tank will deal with the higher ethanol fuels that are undoubtedly coming along?
I'm not a Bobber fan either, with that seat hanging off the back as if you are on some farm implement like a plough, rather than a bike.
Both mudguards are far too short; the front one will allow the engine and rad to get covered in shyte, the back one will give you a black line up your back like a skunk, from mucky water thrown off the tyre, and its shortness also necessitates that ugly bracket to mount the number plate.
I'm prepared to believe it looks better in the flesh than on video, but..... Not for me I'm afraid. Not a bike I could live with.
I think it is relevant what your height is as I as yet have not seen a tall person with short legs.
@@JoJo-hc4dj So you think every one has perfect body / leg length ratio? I am the living proof that's not the case. I am about the same height as the Missenden Flyer, for instance. He has a 34" inseam IIRC and I have 29". He has long legs for his height, I have short legs for my height. 5" makes a heck of a difference in what bikes fit you.
We give our height so people can gauge what we look like on the motorcycle. We are not specifically referring to seat height and reach to the ground, we are referring to all aspects of fit including arm length, etc. That is why we don't give inside leg length because it is a combination of the whole body 👍🏼
I'm not 100% sure but I vaguely remember being told that the tank you can see is just a cover for the real tank underneath. (but I might be wrong, it was a while ago when they first came out)
@@specialcircs And that lovely twin engine!
So, I'm 4 days from getting back on a 8k mile trip on one (2020 Spit Six). (UK to Nordkapp and back.)
I would wager my bike is the CCM which has gone the furthest from home, with many countires in europe now ticked off (By its own steam), and clocked the most miles on it. On and off road. (Including a bunch of the TET)
For me personally, I'll never sell the bike, I took it from the factory (I picked it up from their place) with a bunch of my customisiations, and realised I needed to make many more to make it mine, and make it do what I wanted to do. I've custom made luggage systems, redone many electrics on it, and reworked a bunch to make it more hardy.
I would not recommend the bike to anyone who wants to put it in a display case, or to someone without the willpower to play with it and repair a few things.
I would reccomend it to anyone who wants to mess around with it and make it theirs. I've made mine into a tourer. Is it the most effective tourer? Hell no. Is it a very unique tourer that can smash back road and gravel? Yes. Do I love riding every minute of it? Yes. Have I ran out of fuel on it? A few times and now always carry a fuel bag with me on long trips. Is there anywhere I wouldn't ride it? With the exception of motorways no, the engine, suspension and drivetrain eat up everything.
It is an odd bike, and I won't claim it is the best looking, some hate it and some love it. The only thing that matters is I love it.
Awesome! We loved the CCM’s! It’s a great shame that the videos were not watched by as many people as we usually attract.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan They aren't a Triumph, Ducati or KTM, and won't bring with it the views they may. And as much I would encourage people to try one, they aren't for the vast majority of riders in my opinion. Much like electric bikes they devide the viewership.
I agree it's a shame you havent had the uptake you would like, but at least you got to ride a few great machines.
Hi kedwardsTwo. It's nice to hear a honest review from an owner. I've got a Bobber and have travelled across the country on it several times but would love to speak to you about your touring options. I've had a few ideas but nothing quite suited. My plan for the future is to do a leisurely tour around Europe with some friends, so an improved luggage option would help. Cheers Dan
@@flowerdjf if you search on Reddit for CCMBikes you will find a small reddit I. Made. I have my luggage system shown on there.
A far too expensive parts bin special that has limited appeal to most people IMO. I just don't get the appeal. Old tech engine of dubious quality. Resale values are also very poor I suspect. Buy at your peril.
What I've manage to find is that they have used Rotax, Suzuki and Kymco engines. No idea which is in this one but those three don't sound too dubious to me 🤷♂
What's not to like?....they tick both the ugly and the expensive boxes.IMHO.
And probably a poor resale price 😮
in Canada CCM is a hockey skate...for my taste the lines on this bike are wacko...wheel base way too short...seat way too high over the rear wheel...a hot mess really.
How would you compare this to the Triumph Bobber?
Its significantly more character, handles better, sounds better, gets more attention. The Triumph Bobber with the larger engine of course would be quicker on motorways and at higher speeds 👍🏼
Can't think of anything better for b roads and country lanes what a class act
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Hmm..Ive had a Triumph bobber Black for 4 years and I have also rode the CCM and I wouldn't say handling is better, its a matter for personal taste.
I'll keep my shovel
You know what would be a great comparison video! The CCM Bobber and the Husqvarna Svartpilen. I love the looks of the Svartpilen and the 401cc goes faster the the numbers say, as you mentioned about the Bobber.
A very polarising motorcycle, bit like marmite 😊
Must be one of the most ugliest bikes ever made.
@@stevetop5970 what do you think is a good looking bike?
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I would say the royal Enfield interceptor, the hunter and also triumph 400 scram are all good looking motorcycles. I do like your channel, but I hate that awful looking machine.
@@stevetop5970if you get the chance, ride one, phenomenal.
Is the motor made in China?
I don’t think so, I think it’s a very well known and reliable European engine with a long heritage in off road bikes.
I had two dead hands within 20 mins of riding one of these due to vibration. Personally a big no.
@@markdrummond7 Really ?? I toured Europe on mine. Perhaps the issue is your hands 🤷🏻♂️
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They sound horrible. I know it’s personal taste but when you rev them out , the racket they make is not pleasant. If you live in the country around horses and dogs and stuff, the noise would do my head in. It’s simply not an attractive sound.
Make sure you watch Tuesday’s video on the Maverick! You’ll hate it even more!
You don’t need to rev them out- they’re a big single so the fun comes from low down.
Clewes Competition Machines, of Bolton. Not my sort of thing. Looks like something which a circus clown would ride around the ring on. Where is the back end? Noisy and anti-social It's a shame because CCM obviously have the technical competence to produce a quality bike. Make something which looks nice and isn't aimed at the wealthy hooligan.
damn thats what we are calling a shitbox 😅
@@nusso007 Says a man who’s never ridden one🤔
It's never seen a bobber😂
Sorry guys but it is pretty well known they are basically a ‘parts bin’ special with poor owner reliability reviews. I love the brand but it’s not ‘made in Britain’.
It’s made in Bolton Lancashire, and they are amazingly reliable. This lump is so simple there little to go wrong. I’ve got a 2018 scrambler and it’s been exemplary.
What a load of rubbish. They’re hand built in Bolton using high quality components & material and are utterly dependable.
You trash em, but somehow love em? 😅
They are assembled in England. Only the frame is made here and the one person I know who has one has returned it twice because of rust on the frame.
@@jamiewhite-fk3kwyeah,i know someone who has one and the frame had to be resprayed!
What and who's engine is it!!
If it's the same 601cc unit as in their Spitfire then it is an ex-Husqvarna design. I think SWM also use it but no idea where it is made.
@@stephenmundane thank you.
Its a swm engine made in northern italy. This motor is also in the AJP 7r which is an excellent machine.