This man should recieve national recognition for what he does and how he does it. Just incredible! Each and every video that he has created is at a level that leaves everyone watching with disbelief and amazement.
Thank you for all the hard work and time you put into these videos. Your explanations about what you were doing, and why are most valuable. It was very good of you to show your crash and the other difficulties that you had with the feed mill, bushings, etc. We all make mistakes, and seeing how others manage theirs is educational. Really, these are awesome videos!
@@KB-dd9xr nobody ever said that's a production run. Peter mentioned a few months ago that he has a few chunks of scrap 4340 material that he's going to turn into anvils and probably give away
You sir are simply an amazement to me. I am a soon to be retired 67 year young machinest who will never be challenged in that mannor. I am going to obtain a router to entertain myself with and sharpen my cad and cam capabilities. See you on the next one.
Its a controlled crash. Just bought a set of kurt vices where there are a ton of gouges out of the hard jaws. Probably 1/8” inch missing in one spot off the height
Inspiring video, I know little about CNC but as a guy that does manual machine work regularly you are making it harder for me to resist getting a CNC lathe or preferably mill and learning how to do it, really enjoy your videos Peter!
11:43 Ouch! Been there. :( And I didn't have a camera to distract me. So much work for a fixture to only make two parts. I can't wait to see the next video.
Thanks Peter, your videos and commentary are fascinating, and I really appreciate the time you dedicate to making these videos. Looking forward to the next instalment.
It’s funny how long it takes to make a workable blank when you haven’t started with a proper sized piece. It seems like we never charge enough to get those hours paid for. That’s probably just me though! Your content is great Peter, I thoroughly enjoy every video you put out. You have a lot of experience and I enjoy learning from you. Thanks for taking the time to put these videos out.
I think about this all of the time. In the few times I ordered titanium it has always been wonky and not to square or flat. Stock prep costs more money than people think.
You can buy tight tolerance blanks from McMaster, but that's pretty pricy, and only comes in a few alloys. Might want to look into getting some interns on the knee mill on that job, maybe!
I always feel like its the end of the world when I have to set tool heights by hand and then I see you do it with every tool with the good old (I assume) 0.5000" dowel and it humbles me....
Ooops! No matter, just reface the side and no-body will ever know. Thank you Sir, not everyone likes to show their mistakes/missteps and we have all made them, learning from them and moving on wiser and hopefully with all the body parts we started with.
That thumbnail plus the last 30 seconds of the video has myself & likely every other viewer drooling. I've only been subscribed for a few weeks & have already learned so much. Thank you!
Excellent video Peter. Thank you for sharing a mistake, explaining the 'hunt' on the feed mill, and of course, the five-axis "practice." One of my favorite channels. Cheers, ed.
Sorry you had some issues, as much as I felt for you, it's good to see you are human like the rest of us. Everyone messes up, even the very best of us (and in the best I mean you, not me!) Cool workholding solution!
Fixture looks great. Thanks for showing all the roadblocks along the way. The newest lathe in the shop half nut lever is opposite the other lathe and opposite the 2 other lathes I have used...need I say more.
That's where you have your hand on the carriage hand wheel and try to disengage the half nuts but they don't release. You than grip the hand wheel like you expect the back the carriage up but it doesn't. And things get real interesting from this point on. Been there done that. Thanks Bill.
I feel like I jinxed you on this one. I was vicariously enjoying how flawless that vice was and seconds later... I know it was 'our' fault since shooting video of the process was for our benefit. If its any consolation watching you work inspires me to be as thoughtful. Thanks for sharing your work with us. PS those work stops were the first things I saw you make and have been hooked since.
The best part of the vid was not the bump into the vise. It was the lights turning off after the bump and going home for the day to take a break. Then start fresh the next day. That is how we prevent hammers from being thrown across the shop! Machining is a long list of simple tasks to produce a part. When a machinist F's up a simple task, we get mad. That is how you distinguish between a machinist and a hack, a machinist will take responsibility for their mistakes when a hack will blame others for their mistakes. 2ND best part of the vid IMHO was when the corners were killing the ballmill. It happens all the time and Peter kept it in the video. It showed that plan A didn't work out so a plan B had to be improvised and implemented. (a normal thing when cutting parts) 3RD best part was the use of 5X tool paths "just because you can". It's a smoke’m if you got’em type of thing. Thanks for the honesty Peter!
I didn't think much about the lights turning off when I first watch the vid. Really thank you for these words of wisdom! Not only the one who did it (Peter) but also the one who can see and understand what the action means, then explain it to the other like you are the true wise men. Thank you again for these words, it would take youngsters like me decades to understand the great philosophy under these small actions, but now, it just took 40 minutes and 1 comment.
Hi sir , your every video is having something special lesson for me and I am learning a lot . mistake makes man perfect, thanks for showing the ball nose collusion clip.keep uploading sir.keep shining.
best part: "tap it down", then proceeds to beat the tar out of it. as always great video sir, even the crash. thanks for showing Mr. Bozo's visit too. stuff happens. is what it is!
No idea how I just now found this channel but...subscribed! I've been burnt by the hand wheel a few times too, it happens. You're right though, the worst part is having to look at it forever.
"I was in the Z...and that's what happens..." This will be a phrase I will use often. That's a party foul, nothing more. Your reaction was quick, could have been way worse. You do amazing work, thank you for sharing.
I don't think there's a machinist out there who didn't wen't trough it. Props for owning your hiccup, and showing it to others. If you can program it, do it! Avoid manual as much as you can. With the common misconception that a precise machine will do precise work, and it's all up to the machine, I believe you have the most realistic machining related content on youtube. You make good work showing of others what machining is really about. There's no way around experience.
I’m glad you showed that. Now I don’t feel so bad about my even worse mistakes. (I’m lying. I still feel bad). But I am surprised you didn’t indicate the vise too.
Nice video as always Peter, we all have a vice lying around with a smile on it, everyone has done it at some point, in Scotland they say "if you haven't made a mistake, you haven't made fuck all" lol
That crash is partly due to the video he was shooting for us. Working in multitasking as a machinist and operator is even more difficult than being already a master as we are used to seeing him. So, double thanks today.
Yea I hated to show it. (Or more like hated to admit making a such a stupid mistake). But Mr Bozo said if you don't I'll come back to visit you. Also there is the barrage of questions/comments I would get for the wounds in the vise anyway. Thanks Robin.
Peter - you mentioned in you last video that you bought your Mazak pre-owned. What convinced you that the machine was right for your application? Thanks and I enjoy your insights very much.
I needed a machine that could do turning and 5axis milling in the same operation of longish parts. This style of machine is the only one that will do this. Also for petro chem parts I do this is the best machine configuration.
We have a Chinese lathe at the Menz Shed I belong to. It's not huge - 38mm spindle diameter. The same handle operates the cross slide and carriage feeds, so if you pull the handle back to end the cross slide feed and go to far, the carriage starts marching towards the chuck. The lever does not have a good positive feel to it either, so it is all too easy to do. Having said that, I have managed to avoid getting it wrong after many hours of use, but what I have done twice now, is engage the carriage feed with my tummy while leaning over - especially when using the compound slide. So I have some scars on the chuck jaws and a busted tool holder. The secret is to have the lead screw (this lathe does not have separate feed and lead screw) turned to its neutral position when you don't need it. Or I could lose half my body weight so my tummy didn't hit the lever.
pretty sure if he was to do a live stream once he'd reach the amount for a new vice in like 5 minutes over superchats. i would totally donate 50 bucks without even blinking, his content is that good. honest, humble while utterly talented machinist without the need for polish or BS. very rare species on YT these days.
Thanks Randy. Actually I may make more of them. But I don't think it would be economical as far as selling them. I would have to be able to get blanks closer to the finish size (Maybe flame cut to the profile or water jet cut) and speed up the machine work (Read that as reduce the quality). Than there is also heat treatment. People have already asked in the comments but I don't think it's possible. Unless they are willing to pay.
its intresting, the rpm of the spindle actually changes when you take the cuts with the big milling head. You can see from the patterns in the video that they are different when the spindle is free running and when it makes contact with the workpiece the patterns change and become different. This means that the tool rotates at a different rate to the fps of the camera, meaning that the rpm is different.
I was just thinking “that vice looks pristine, they’ve done well to keep it with the labels on and all” and then ouch. As others have said, keeping that in is a great reminder.
Seeing the mill take off the paint of the vice presumably because your vice jaws are a bit narrower than the vice body and your safety margins were based on the jaw dimensions instead of the vice body. Is that distinction modeled into the vice fixture settings and would have been caught by the CAM verification had you been running programmatically?
In Esprit if it is modeled correctly. I will detect it even if its only a .001". I have changed things in its simulation that small and it could tell. This collision was much greater paint thickness. That label on the side of a Kirt vise is a plastic strip around 1/32" thick.
Awesome video as always! Seeing the fixture in the end I think a zero point system with studs that screw in the material like the Lang workholding System would be ideal for that job. Have you experience with those?
Did it stall on the crash? I guess me exploding that drill bit on video wasn't a good enough reminder on jogging the wrong axis, or at least the wrong way. Rapid down on a drill bit is tough on them.
Thanks! Yea I saw your video. It did stall the Z axis. But in that instant it cut the full width of those inserts until it got to the metal face of the face mill. I don't think that would cut the hard steel of the vise base and jaw. I just wasn't paying attention to my axis select switch. Getting in to much of a hurry. These bigger machines have a lot of power and can do a lot of damage in a hurry.
@@EdgePrecision Just glad it didn't knock your machine out of tram. A new vise jaw and a decal and you can cover that mistake up so you don't have to look at it.
Random question. With the ball nose. Could you program this to stat at the bottom and work to the top. Then I my mind you wouldn't have needed that 12.7mm long cutter to ruff it it? Keep up the good work Peter. And thanks for keeping the little bang in the video. It makes me feel normal, seeing people who have probably forgot more than I know make mistake I have done / bound to do again
Yes that is possible. I think the cut length along the tool would be longer than the cut length of the tool I was using. Also this might increase chatter during the cut until it gets near the top. But the tool path can be reversed.
Edge Precision wow, if it s aprox the same for the Mazak it would be smth as $12.000$ a month, that is a loot of inserts i guess. Here i get inserts for pretty cheap prices ( 12-15$/box of 10 ) but there i guess they are more expensive :)
I think you're high feed having trouble could be also cause by you're toolpaths radius in those corners. Looks like it is size for size almost in the corner. Awesome video as always!
I just returned from a used machine tool dealer and what caught my eye was a small horizontal mill that was missing a good quarter of it's table surface in gauges and slots from slitting discs...I felt a lot better about myself. The difference here between manual and CNC machining is on manual machines the sound of the cut might change half way through and you will be wondering while on CNC machines it's usually more like heart attack!
The feed mill isn't designed to work in that direction. The high lead angle is for the side direction. But I do have a plunge milling cutter. I'm not sure if Esprit has this option in a roughing cycle or not. Its generally just not the way I rough things. I not sure but I don't think it would be faster.
You can see the 'wagon-wheel' strobe effect changes when the mill is cutting under load (e.g. at 7:50). Doesn't the mill have a controlled spindle speed that adjusts under load? Maybe it's just the tiniest amount of change that syncs up differently to the camera, but I'd be curious to know how much actual change that is.
I'm not completely sure but this might be due to video conversions and frame rates. I'm filming at 60 frames per second the cutter is running a 600 rpm. Here in the USA the video frame rate isn't exactly 60 it gets converted to 59. something. So it could just be going in and out of sink. Kind of like when you notice the wheels of a car looking like they are turning backwards. Also when I convert this video to RUclips HD there may be some changes there. I don't think this has to do with the machine as much as the video.
@@EdgePrecision Seems to me if it was a video issue it would be consistent and not correlated to cutting under load or not. It could be just the tiniest amount of change, enough to show up in video, but within the mfg spec and insignificant to the machining quality. And yes, AFAIK, GoPros record at 29.97 fps to match NTSC Color TV rates (an artifact of the transition from original 30 fps B&W TV to Color. I worked on TV/Video equipment in a past life...)
Everyone hits stuff, not everyone has the balls to leave it in. Bravo.
Oh, man. The boss is gonna be mad! Mill the whole side, paint it blue, nobody will ever know?
I'm thinking he meant as in leave it in the video
came here to say that. we all crashed a machine. if you havent, you are probably fresh in machining.
Thanks for showing real life Peter. EVERYONE makes mistakes.
Thanks for another great video.
This man should recieve national recognition for what he does and how he does it. Just incredible! Each and every video that he has created is at a level that leaves everyone watching with disbelief and amazement.
@Barry Manilowa Have you seen any other videos Peter has made?
11:40 YOU ARE HUMAN! I have seen nothing but perfection on this channel and was beginning to wonder.
7:55
"3 inches, doesn't have to be perfect"
*Measures 3.001"*
"Good enough"
Nice video! I jumped and my heart sank when I saw that face mill wack the vise!
Thank you for all the hard work and time you put into these videos. Your explanations about what you were doing, and why are most valuable. It was very good of you to show your crash and the other difficulties that you had with the feed mill, bushings, etc. We all make mistakes, and seeing how others manage theirs is educational. Really, these are awesome videos!
Probably the most precise pair of anvils ever made!
And expensive prep. Unless you make several thousand to get the cost per part down.
@@KB-dd9xr nobody ever said that's a production run. Peter mentioned a few months ago that he has a few chunks of scrap 4340 material that he's going to turn into anvils and probably give away
Peter, you are very clever, and even better, very honest about real life milling. Perfect video!
You sir are simply an amazement to me. I am a soon to be retired 67 year young machinest who will never be challenged in that mannor. I am going to obtain a router to entertain myself with and sharpen my cad and cam capabilities. See you on the next one.
There's no machinist alive who hasn't moved the wrong axis at least once.
Its a controlled crash. Just bought a set of kurt vices where there are a ton of gouges out of the hard jaws. Probably 1/8” inch missing in one spot off the height
Just once 😂 I wish
11 years experience and i did it yesterday lol
the worst is manually touching off a brand new endmill and accidentally moving it down instead of up LMAO
Inspiring video, I know little about CNC but as a guy that does manual machine work regularly you are making it harder for me to resist getting a CNC lathe or preferably mill and learning how to do it, really enjoy your videos Peter!
You are amazing Peter. You come up with some of the greatest fixtures to hold parts to be machined.
11:43 Ouch! Been there. :( And I didn't have a camera to distract me.
So much work for a fixture to only make two parts. I can't wait to see the next video.
No good deed goes unpunished. I love your content, thank you for sharing.
Thank you lord, for this new edge precision content in these difficult times
Peter I'm sorry about the crash, thank you for sharing.
Man, as someone who just got a lathe and is learning, it's refreshing to see that even the best make mistakes from time to time.
Thanks Peter, your videos and commentary are fascinating, and I really appreciate the time you dedicate to making these videos. Looking forward to the next instalment.
God bless you for your honesty man, I much appreciate seeing what experienced people share in terms of tips and rookie mistakes.
One of my favorite videos of your that you have ever published ! The fixture is a piece of art!
You are my favorite person on RUclips. I always learn so much. Awesome video today, thanks!
It’s funny how long it takes to make a workable blank when you haven’t started with a proper sized piece. It seems like we never charge enough to get those hours paid for. That’s probably just me though! Your content is great Peter, I thoroughly enjoy every video you put out. You have a lot of experience and I enjoy learning from you. Thanks for taking the time to put these videos out.
I think about this all of the time. In the few times I ordered titanium it has always been wonky and not to square or flat. Stock prep costs more money than people think.
You can buy tight tolerance blanks from McMaster, but that's pretty pricy, and only comes in a few alloys.
Might want to look into getting some interns on the knee mill on that job, maybe!
I always feel like its the end of the world when I have to set tool heights by hand and then I see you do it with every tool with the good old (I assume) 0.5000" dowel and it humbles me....
What a beautiful fixture. That thing is a real work of art imo.
Ooops! No matter, just reface the side and no-body will ever know. Thank you Sir, not everyone likes to show their mistakes/missteps and we have all made them, learning from them and moving on wiser and hopefully with all the body parts we started with.
That thumbnail plus the last 30 seconds of the video has myself & likely every other viewer drooling. I've only been subscribed for a few weeks & have already learned so much. Thank you!
that fixture is a work of art. im blown away even more each new video you post
That 5 Axis cut was soo satisfying. Totally worth it!
Excellent video Peter. Thank you for sharing a mistake, explaining the 'hunt' on the feed mill, and of course, the five-axis "practice." One of my favorite channels. Cheers, ed.
I just happened by this, and learnt an absolute ton! Liked and subscribed for sure! This is what RUclips is for.
Gracias otra vez por compartir tu tiempo y tu gran conocimiento...un saludo y mucha salud
This is maybe the video I’ve learned the most. Thank you leaving evrything. Then, eagerly waiting to see the next part.
Sorry you had some issues, as much as I felt for you, it's good to see you are human like the rest of us. Everyone messes up, even the very best of us (and in the best I mean you, not me!) Cool workholding solution!
Fixture looks great. Thanks for showing all the roadblocks along the way. The newest lathe in the shop half nut lever is opposite the other lathe and opposite the 2 other lathes I have used...need I say more.
That's where you have your hand on the carriage hand wheel and try to disengage the half nuts but they don't release. You than grip the hand wheel like you expect the back the carriage up but it doesn't. And things get real interesting from this point on. Been there done that. Thanks Bill.
Says it's a Kurt vice... but that sure sounded like a "Schunk" to me.
Lol! 😂
Good one XD
I will be saying this to everyone from now on when there's a crash
I feel like I jinxed you on this one. I was vicariously enjoying how flawless that vice was and seconds later... I know it was 'our' fault since shooting video of the process was for our benefit. If its any consolation watching you work inspires me to be as thoughtful. Thanks for sharing your work with us. PS those work stops were the first things I saw you make and have been hooked since.
Great content Peter . I always stop what I'm doing when a new video comes out .
The best part of the vid was not the bump into the vise. It was the lights turning off after the bump and going home for the day to take a break. Then start fresh the next day. That is how we prevent hammers from being thrown across the shop!
Machining is a long list of simple tasks to produce a part. When a machinist F's up a simple task, we get mad.
That is how you distinguish between a machinist and a hack, a machinist will take responsibility for their mistakes when a hack will blame others for their mistakes.
2ND best part of the vid IMHO was when the corners were killing the ballmill. It happens all the time and Peter kept it in the video. It showed that plan A didn't work out so a plan B had to be improvised and implemented. (a normal thing when cutting parts)
3RD best part was the use of 5X tool paths "just because you can". It's a smoke’m if you got’em type of thing.
Thanks for the honesty Peter!
words of wisdom
I didn't think much about the lights turning off when I first watch the vid. Really thank you for these words of wisdom! Not only the one who did it (Peter) but also the one who can see and understand what the action means, then explain it to the other like you are the true wise men. Thank you again for these words, it would take youngsters like me decades to understand the great philosophy under these small actions, but now, it just took 40 minutes and 1 comment.
The lights were just the power down and restart after axis overload
@@mannycalavera121 it will take a lot more than that to stall out a proper horizontal like that mitsu
I had to power down the machine because I stalled the Z axis with this one. It wouldn't reset without a power down.
Hi sir , your every video is having something special lesson for me and I am learning a lot . mistake makes man perfect, thanks for showing the ball nose collusion clip.keep uploading sir.keep shining.
I love the high speed when the face mill goes from 0 to loaded
Thank you for putting in the time to share!
best part: "tap it down", then proceeds to beat the tar out of it. as always great video sir, even the crash. thanks for showing Mr. Bozo's visit too. stuff happens. is what it is!
That’s not a crash. I’ve seen crashes!
Even the fixture is a work of art. Looks great Peter. Looking forward to the next vid
Really enjoy this series, what a great project! You have the best CNC content on YT! Thanks for doing this.
Thank you for keeping it real Peter, I love the content.
You're showing off the possibilities of the mazak integrex in full force. Nice project.
nice touch drawing a face in your crash!
Great video and nice CNC lathe machine.
No idea how I just now found this channel but...subscribed! I've been burnt by the hand wheel a few times too, it happens. You're right though, the worst part is having to look at it forever.
Top shelf stuff right there. My vise has a hickey on it also. I feel that if it gets stolen i can identify it easy. Awsome video Sir
"I was in the Z...and that's what happens..." This will be a phrase I will use often.
That's a party foul, nothing more. Your reaction was quick, could have been way worse. You do amazing work, thank you for sharing.
That noisy banging atc is comforting sound, my workhorse bt50 mitsui seiki sounds just like that.
I don't think there's a machinist out there who didn't wen't trough it. Props for owning your hiccup, and showing it to others. If you can program it, do it! Avoid manual as much as you can. With the common misconception that a precise machine will do precise work, and it's all up to the machine, I believe you have the most realistic machining related content on youtube. You make good work showing of others what machining is really about. There's no way around experience.
Looking forward to the machining of the Anvil video keep the videos coming they're awesome
you make some nice stuff. thanks for sharing.
I think you may be the first youtuber machinist with the balls to show a realistic "bump"
great job once again! looking forward to the machining of the anvils.
I’m glad you showed that. Now I don’t feel so bad about my even worse mistakes. (I’m lying. I still feel bad). But I am surprised you didn’t indicate the vise too.
As always, I love the troubleshooting
Great video. A master craftsman @ work.
Very impressive sir - looking forward to the completed products
That is some impressive stuff: machines, tools, skills and knowledge.
Whoa... first time I've seen you contact the vise. I literally jumped.
Nice video as always Peter, we all have a vice lying around with a smile on it, everyone has done it at some point, in Scotland they say "if you haven't made a mistake, you haven't made fuck all" lol
I´m working on my bachelors degree in electronical engineering and this is just relaxing to me.
Thanks for sharing the mistake. Most people would be out of their mind after that but you are common cool and collected about it.
That crash is partly due to the video he was shooting for us.
Working in multitasking as a machinist and operator is even more difficult than being already a master as we are used to seeing him.
So, double thanks today.
Good stuff Peter! Thanks for showing the Bozo visits also.
ATB, Robin
Yea I hated to show it. (Or more like hated to admit making a such a stupid mistake). But Mr Bozo said if you don't I'll come back to visit you. Also there is the barrage of questions/comments I would get for the wounds in the vise anyway. Thanks Robin.
Peter - you mentioned in you last video that you bought your Mazak pre-owned. What convinced you that the machine was right for your application? Thanks and I enjoy your insights very much.
I needed a machine that could do turning and 5axis milling in the same operation of longish parts. This style of machine is the only one that will do this. Also for petro chem parts I do this is the best machine configuration.
@@EdgePrecision Thank you Peter.
Loved this one Peter, Can't wait for the next one!
What an excellent video!!
Thank you
We have a Chinese lathe at the Menz Shed I belong to. It's not huge - 38mm spindle diameter. The same handle operates the cross slide and carriage feeds, so if you pull the handle back to end the cross slide feed and go to far, the carriage starts marching towards the chuck. The lever does not have a good positive feel to it either, so it is all too easy to do. Having said that, I have managed to avoid getting it wrong after many hours of use, but what I have done twice now, is engage the carriage feed with my tummy while leaning over - especially when using the compound slide. So I have some scars on the chuck jaws and a busted tool holder. The secret is to have the lead screw (this lathe does not have separate feed and lead screw) turned to its neutral position when you don't need it. Or I could lose half my body weight so my tummy didn't hit the lever.
That'll just be a great reminder to ya, Was a production Cincinnati Millacron, Lathe Hand 79-81 Have a great one.
Great video Peter, thanks!
Can't wait to see the anvil! Would love to see you make the larger ones
I vote we all pitch in 2 bucks and buy Pete a new vice!
I'm in. Let's start a "Go Fund Me" account. Let me know where I can send my $10.00
I'm in. Let's start a "Go Fund Me" account. Let me know where I can send my $10.00
I'm in. His videos are real world knowledge you struggle to find anywhere else
pretty sure if he was to do a live stream once he'd reach the amount for a new vice in like 5 minutes over superchats. i would totally donate 50 bucks without even blinking, his content is that good. honest, humble while utterly talented machinist without the need for polish or BS. very rare species on YT these days.
Can’t wait. Thanks Dave
Hi Peter, great video as always.
makes my yesterday cutting foam rubber tame by comparison (for a tool tray). great video, thanks.
I just love your videos
Nice fixtureing. A lot of work for 2 parts. Cool to watch.
Thanks Randy. Actually I may make more of them. But I don't think it would be economical as far as selling them. I would have to be able to get blanks closer to the finish size (Maybe flame cut to the profile or water jet cut) and speed up the machine work (Read that as reduce the quality). Than there is also heat treatment. People have already asked in the comments but I don't think it's possible. Unless they are willing to pay.
@@EdgePrecision Yep for sure. A fully machined anvil would be very costly. Very cool anyway.
its intresting, the rpm of the spindle actually changes when you take the cuts with the big milling head. You can see from the patterns in the video that they are different when the spindle is free running and when it makes contact with the workpiece the patterns change and become different. This means that the tool rotates at a different rate to the fps of the camera, meaning that the rpm is different.
I was just thinking “that vice looks pristine, they’ve done well to keep it with the labels on and all” and then ouch. As others have said, keeping that in is a great reminder.
Seeing the mill take off the paint of the vice presumably because your vice jaws are a bit narrower than the vice body and your safety margins were based on the jaw dimensions instead of the vice body. Is that distinction modeled into the vice fixture settings and would have been caught by the CAM verification had you been running programmatically?
In Esprit if it is modeled correctly. I will detect it even if its only a .001". I have changed things in its simulation that small and it could tell. This collision was much greater paint thickness. That label on the side of a Kirt vise is a plastic strip around 1/32" thick.
Awesome video as always! Seeing the fixture in the end I think a zero point system with studs that screw in the material like the Lang workholding System would be ideal for that job. Have you experience with those?
Did it stall on the crash? I guess me exploding that drill bit on video wasn't a good enough reminder on jogging the wrong axis, or at least the wrong way. Rapid down on a drill bit is tough on them.
Thanks! Yea I saw your video. It did stall the Z axis. But in that instant it cut the full width of those inserts until it got to the metal face of the face mill. I don't think that would cut the hard steel of the vise base and jaw. I just wasn't paying attention to my axis select switch. Getting in to much of a hurry. These bigger machines have a lot of power and can do a lot of damage in a hurry.
@@EdgePrecision Just glad it didn't knock your machine out of tram. A new vise jaw and a decal and you can cover that mistake up so you don't have to look at it.
Random question. With the ball nose. Could you program this to stat at the bottom and work to the top. Then I my mind you wouldn't have needed that 12.7mm long cutter to ruff it it? Keep up the good work Peter. And thanks for keeping the little bang in the video. It makes me feel normal, seeing people who have probably forgot more than I know make mistake I have done / bound to do again
Yes that is possible. I think the cut length along the tool would be longer than the cut length of the tool I was using. Also this might increase chatter during the cut until it gets near the top. But the tool path can be reversed.
Can’t wait for the next video!!!
Always wondered mr Peter, how many inserts do you go thru monthly ? Excellent video as always, thx a lot for doing them 🙏🏼👍🏼
On the Mitsubishi horizontal I go thru about $1400.00 a week worth. On the Mazak it varies so I'm not sure.
Edge Precision wow, if it s aprox the same for the Mazak it would be smth as $12.000$ a month, that is a loot of inserts i guess. Here i get inserts for pretty cheap prices ( 12-15$/box of 10 ) but there i guess they are more expensive :)
I noticed that the chuck actually spins a bit around 22:00 while milling the flat. DO the chuck brakes fail slowly?
I think you're high feed having trouble could be also cause by you're toolpaths radius in those corners. Looks like it is size for size almost in the corner.
Awesome video as always!
I just returned from a used machine tool dealer and what caught my eye was a small horizontal mill that was missing a good quarter of it's table surface in gauges and slots from slitting discs...I felt a lot better about myself. The difference here between manual and CNC machining is on manual machines the sound of the cut might change half way through and you will be wondering while on CNC machines it's usually more like heart attack!
Great job . Cheers .
I've done that before 11:42. Never a good feeling. Your'e a better man than me. I would have cut the resurfacing of the vice from the video.
Why not plunge mill those cut outs with the feed mill? Keeping all the vibration linear rather than radial seems like it would be more effective.
The feed mill isn't designed to work in that direction. The high lead angle is for the side direction. But I do have a plunge milling cutter. I'm not sure if Esprit has this option in a roughing cycle or not. Its generally just not the way I rough things. I not sure but I don't think it would be faster.
Please don't hate me, im just curious - what are the advantages of horizontal cnc mill? I'm newbie in machining. Greetings from Poland.
Really interesting project !
You can see the 'wagon-wheel' strobe effect changes when the mill is cutting under load (e.g. at 7:50). Doesn't the mill have a controlled spindle speed that adjusts under load? Maybe it's just the tiniest amount of change that syncs up differently to the camera, but I'd be curious to know how much actual change that is.
I'm not completely sure but this might be due to video conversions and frame rates. I'm filming at 60 frames per second the cutter is running a 600 rpm. Here in the USA the video frame rate isn't exactly 60 it gets converted to 59. something. So it could just be going in and out of sink. Kind of like when you notice the wheels of a car looking like they are turning backwards. Also when I convert this video to RUclips HD there may be some changes there. I don't think this has to do with the machine as much as the video.
@@EdgePrecision Seems to me if it was a video issue it would be consistent and not correlated to cutting under load or not. It could be just the tiniest amount of change, enough to show up in video, but within the mfg spec and insignificant to the machining quality. And yes, AFAIK, GoPros record at 29.97 fps to match NTSC Color TV rates (an artifact of the transition from original 30 fps B&W TV to Color. I worked on TV/Video equipment in a past life...)
At least you crashed having fun, not on some hyper expensive titanium with 100s hours in it