Todd said it best , your goal is to find out if you like this person. You’ll naturally ask questions act a certain type of way and genuinely see if you and this person are compatible and to what level.
Just shows how the scientific method can be applied to anything. In business, you start with a minimum viable product (MVP), and then you add on features and iterate on it over time to make it better. Same thing with art and design. You have a blank canvas, you slap some lines on it, and now you have a rough shape to work from where you can rub out, add shades, colour, shadows, highlights, and before long, you have a masterpiece. In writing, you employ a very similar method as well. You start with bullet points, then a rough draft, then you edit the rough draft by rewriting sentences, deleting paragraphs and correcting the grammar. Before long, you have a fully completed book ready to publish. In game, it should be no different. You start with a model, it gets iterated and improved over time, you find out what's right and wrong with it, add in more nuances, and eventually you end up with a girl in your bed.
What I learned: 1:42 In the old days of game, they would have stories for conveying attraction, comfort, popularity, selectiveness, or getting her attention. There's nothing wrong with using scripted dialogue if you don't have something natural in hand (also it can aid with nervousness). Don't know what to say? Well, if you have no model, it's better to at least resort to a basic model.
I think the setting matters a lot. If you're approaching a girl at a bar or on the street, then yeah, there's not any real consequences. But if there's a girl you want to approach in a place that you frequent, like the gym, it's quite different. If you're in the gym 5 days a week and know a lot of people there, all it takes is for you to talk to one girl who finds your approach uncomfortable or creepy and suddenly you're known as "that" guy. So there are very real consequences in that situation. Most girls I've approached in the gym have been disinterested, which normally wouldn't bother me. But I know that every girl I approach incrementally increases my chances of talking to a girl who reports me to management for "making her feel uncomfortable". Which sucks because some of the girls in my gym I'm genuinely interested in getting to know and dating.
How about not thinking so small and realizing there's limitless opportunities outside of the gym. Don't do pick up in a gym where you see the girl 5 times, or at least start out much more indirectly. In conclusion, I would just focus on what you came for in the gym, and approach girls outside of the gym.
@@Beerend True, I was using the gym as an example because that's my primary social outlet. But the same is true in bars, classes, meet-up groups etc. It doesn't take long to get a bad reputation in places, especially if you're someone who stands out from the crowd. The best places to avoid that is out on the street or malls (back when malls existed). No risk of getting a reputation there, but it also has the least results of anywhere, so it's hard to find success that way. Where do you find the best results?
@@fuzzypanda1684 That all is true indeed and it's why I'm hesitant to do this in the small city I live in, but I still will try. The truth is that logistics matter a LOT. If you're in a bigger city, the problem is solved. I'm just starting out with taking action so I'm just a beginner. But my first goal is to move to a better city, otherwise I'm just disadvantaged. In bars I think you can still get away with the most. Especially if you're alone. So that's what I'm going to do now
It's always that first girl you manage to go up to and actually go on a couple dates that's hard. After that experience and diligence takes you over the icebergs.
As far as I'm concerned, being too prepared with canned lines gets in the way of what matters most...which is forming an actual, genuine connection with the girl. Have some go-tos in your backpocket maybe but it should just be an avenue towards the vibe between the two of you becoming comfortable enough it feels organic for you and her. Me personally, speak on something you notice or is happening in the moment. That's a much more real go-to that she's far more inclined to not sense as something "you say to all the girls"
Yes, in the end it should be about forming a genuine connection with people. And I think it is, for most people. The way I see it, these videos are for men whose head gets in the way of that connection. They're too scared of rejection, they lack the confidence to use basic communication tools like "being honest". I know that RSD and by extension Todd taught me how I can build up my confidence, which now allows me to build unique connections with people and strong long-term relationships with girls. Even in this video about preparing and canned lines, Todd says that it's only a starting point to get out of your head. How do you feel about this view?
Field report 4 approaches 1st went amazing!! Was having trouble getting started bc so many hot girls put me in my head. Super cute half Chinese girl who engaged me. She skates!! She said I was fit. Should've left more space but it went awesome. Got insta 2nd was 2 hot girls I gave a compliment 3rd was THE FUCKING HOTTEST GIRL I HAVE SEEN MOST GUYS WOULD BE SCARED TO APPROACH. had boyfriend, she was so sweet omg 4th was older girl who I had to work for conversation, good practice. Practiced closing but she said they weren't in town for long. ALL GOOD I KILLED IT MOTHERFUCKER!!
Been having trouble with girls so a friend recommended me this guy and a few others, idk. I feel like I’ve tried this and other things too and nothing works lol
As helpful as these advices can be on a surface level, I think this kinda manuscrips stuff is moreso manipulation rather than authentic pure game, which is something that needs to happen in the moment and not some sort of tactic to combat your anxiety that's probably gonna ruin it for you anyways regardless of the ammount of aces in your pocket.
Pure game is based on these training wheels, you just have it on subconscious. Like Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant wouldve practice fundamentals over and over again so they can improvise only if needed and make it even better on the fly
@thespiritbomb I disagree with your premise, speaking CAN be used for manipulation, but I wouldn't advice it if your goal is to actually gain something from your experience. The ultimate form of game is to demonstrate that you are ABOVE the level of tactics and can just feel like being yourself in the truest form is all that needs to be done.
@thespiritbomb All I would say is it depends on the intent of what you are saying. You can say something because you simply want yourself to be entertained, and because you "felt like it", but you could say the same thing with an intent of "I hope they find me attractice/they like me". Those are two very different things. Now you can get how technical you want about it, I think it's important we're able to make that differenciation. Because they really are two different things.
Nooooooooo... girls like you when yr genuine, caring, paying attention to her.... stop making it so hard for guys!! If women/girls hear you 'playing games'they DON'T like that... if yr trying to get her to chase you, be kind, respectful, generous... this 'plan idea, omg! It should be to just take her somewhere nice, ask her what she likes. Is she affectionate? That kind of thing! Ask if you can kiss her, compliment what she's wearing and thank her for any kindness she shows you. BUT, ring her, text her much more than these coaches tell you... or she'll get bored of you
@@HapyyTheCat omg, it's what women want, so if you want to REALLY be relationship material you will realise yr insult for a start, won't help you. I know, I have helped with very successful relationships, where the guy receives a beautiful genuine loving woman to give him children and genuine love
TODD , can you please talk on how you use framecontrol and shittest passing to create value in a mixed set where you cant directly talk to the girl. In almost all of your infield you never show how you manage the group or build attraction with the girl while managing a big group. @toddvalentine
The best game is the one you feel in the moment when youre full of confidence
“Panic in the Right Direction” feels like the name of a One Direction and Panic at the Disco Tour
Facts
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"Panic in the right direction." I like that Todd.
Todd said it best , your goal is to find out if you like this person. You’ll naturally ask questions act a certain type of way and genuinely see if you and this person are compatible and to what level.
Just shows how the scientific method can be applied to anything. In business, you start with a minimum viable product (MVP), and then you add on features and iterate on it over time to make it better. Same thing with art and design. You have a blank canvas, you slap some lines on it, and now you have a rough shape to work from where you can rub out, add shades, colour, shadows, highlights, and before long, you have a masterpiece. In writing, you employ a very similar method as well. You start with bullet points, then a rough draft, then you edit the rough draft by rewriting sentences, deleting paragraphs and correcting the grammar. Before long, you have a fully completed book ready to publish.
In game, it should be no different. You start with a model, it gets iterated and improved over time, you find out what's right and wrong with it, add in more nuances, and eventually you end up with a girl in your bed.
Modelo and aply, get back to correcto your mistakes, then as u go Will be creating your own modelo son to speak
Very very damaged mentality
What I learned:
1:42 In the old days of game, they would have stories for conveying attraction, comfort, popularity, selectiveness, or getting her attention.
There's nothing wrong with using scripted dialogue if you don't have something natural in hand (also it can aid with nervousness).
Don't know what to say? Well, if you have no model, it's better to at least resort to a basic model.
"Panic in the right direction" is a good way to describe how I game 😅
Would love to see him analyze love island (dating show ) could learn so much from that game and interesting
See that guy in Black everything with pink shoes 😆 that's my coach
I think the setting matters a lot. If you're approaching a girl at a bar or on the street, then yeah, there's not any real consequences. But if there's a girl you want to approach in a place that you frequent, like the gym, it's quite different. If you're in the gym 5 days a week and know a lot of people there, all it takes is for you to talk to one girl who finds your approach uncomfortable or creepy and suddenly you're known as "that" guy. So there are very real consequences in that situation.
Most girls I've approached in the gym have been disinterested, which normally wouldn't bother me. But I know that every girl I approach incrementally increases my chances of talking to a girl who reports me to management for "making her feel uncomfortable". Which sucks because some of the girls in my gym I'm genuinely interested in getting to know and dating.
How about not thinking so small and realizing there's limitless opportunities outside of the gym. Don't do pick up in a gym where you see the girl 5 times, or at least start out much more indirectly. In conclusion, I would just focus on what you came for in the gym, and approach girls outside of the gym.
@@Beerend True, I was using the gym as an example because that's my primary social outlet. But the same is true in bars, classes, meet-up groups etc. It doesn't take long to get a bad reputation in places, especially if you're someone who stands out from the crowd.
The best places to avoid that is out on the street or malls (back when malls existed). No risk of getting a reputation there, but it also has the least results of anywhere, so it's hard to find success that way.
Where do you find the best results?
@@fuzzypanda1684 That all is true indeed and it's why I'm hesitant to do this in the small city I live in, but I still will try. The truth is that logistics matter a LOT. If you're in a bigger city, the problem is solved. I'm just starting out with taking action so I'm just a beginner. But my first goal is to move to a better city, otherwise I'm just disadvantaged.
In bars I think you can still get away with the most. Especially if you're alone. So that's what I'm going to do now
@@Beerend that's the point of game, have options so u don't grow desperate over limited pool
It's always that first girl you manage to go up to and actually go on a couple dates that's hard. After that experience and diligence takes you over the icebergs.
Examples needed here!!
todd i love your shoes !!
As far as I'm concerned, being too prepared with canned lines gets in the way of what matters most...which is forming an actual, genuine connection with the girl. Have some go-tos in your backpocket maybe but it should just be an avenue towards the vibe between the two of you becoming comfortable enough it feels organic for you and her.
Me personally, speak on something you notice or is happening in the moment. That's a much more real go-to that she's far more inclined to not sense as something "you say to all the girls"
Yes, in the end it should be about forming a genuine connection with people. And I think it is, for most people. The way I see it, these videos are for men whose head gets in the way of that connection. They're too scared of rejection, they lack the confidence to use basic communication tools like "being honest". I know that RSD and by extension Todd taught me how I can build up my confidence, which now allows me to build unique connections with people and strong long-term relationships with girls. Even in this video about preparing and canned lines, Todd says that it's only a starting point to get out of your head. How do you feel about this view?
@@jeroenverschaeve3090 agreed
Todd has givin the advice in your comment in another video too.
@@alohacoach8002 I don't doubt it 🙂
"I do say that to all the girls. Did it work?"
It took you 11minutes to say what i would of said in 30 seconds...genius
Keep up the great work
Great video man
what is this, the black lodge from twin peaks?
This video was a missing piece for me. It clicked more than any other. Looking forward to my results applying it
Field report 4 approaches
1st went amazing!! Was having trouble getting started bc so many hot girls put me in my head. Super cute half Chinese girl who engaged me. She skates!! She said I was fit. Should've left more space but it went awesome. Got insta
2nd was 2 hot girls I gave a compliment
3rd was THE FUCKING HOTTEST GIRL I HAVE SEEN MOST GUYS WOULD BE SCARED TO APPROACH. had boyfriend, she was so sweet omg
4th was older girl who I had to work for conversation, good practice. Practiced closing but she said they weren't in town for long. ALL GOOD I KILLED IT MOTHERFUCKER!!
Ngl this was really informative
G.O.A.T 🐐
where can I learn 2002 style of game/ canned game? or at least some points to start from
How old is The Toddfather?!
Timeless
@@HapyyTheCat ha!
What shoes is Todd wearing? The light red ones?? 😎
wait... is Todd wearing pink? peacoking is back guys!. haha. cheers
Wearing pink is not peacocking
Yeah I know Im just joking around. cheers
Been having trouble with girls so a friend recommended me this guy and a few others, idk. I feel like I’ve tried this and other things too and nothing works lol
what kind of trouble, escalation? Nice guy behavior?
If that's you in your pic the solution is simple: lose weight
Practice makes perfect and get some feedback on yourself from you did and refine what you should and not do
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Prepare
Something Abt u that I like and don't like.
Story about you. Ask about hers.
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Hey!! Just watched the ”Alpha cup” episode on ”Billions” and your 3 s love to hear your take on Axerod fiction vs reality
The twitching of your leg shows a lot of anxiety? Your videos are mostly good, relax man.
As helpful as these advices can be on a surface level, I think this kinda manuscrips stuff is moreso manipulation rather than authentic pure game, which is something that needs to happen in the moment and not some sort of tactic to combat your anxiety that's probably gonna ruin it for you anyways regardless of the ammount of aces in your pocket.
Pure game is based on these training wheels, you just have it on subconscious. Like Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant wouldve practice fundamentals over and over again so they can improvise only if needed and make it even better on the fly
@thespiritbomb I disagree with your premise, speaking CAN be used for manipulation, but I wouldn't advice it if your goal is to actually gain something from your experience. The ultimate form of game is to demonstrate that you are ABOVE the level of tactics and can just feel like being yourself in the truest form is all that needs to be done.
@thespiritbomb I don't know where you got that idea
@thespiritbomb All I would say is it depends on the intent of what you are saying. You can say something because you simply want yourself to be entertained, and because you "felt like it", but you could say the same thing with an intent of "I hope they find me attractice/they like me". Those are two very different things. Now you can get how technical you want about it, I think it's important we're able to make that differenciation. Because they really are two different things.
Women need lies to see pretty picture about the world.they dont need real feelings.
It is all about game and how to play well to win
Genuinely think this guy is lucifer
Dont listen to this nonesense
You have to lie to women, they deserve that...otherwise someone else will do that and take your chance.
Nooooooooo... girls like you when yr genuine, caring, paying attention to her.... stop making it so hard for guys!! If women/girls hear you 'playing games'they DON'T like that... if yr trying to get her to chase you, be kind, respectful, generous... this 'plan idea, omg! It should be to just take her somewhere nice, ask her what she likes. Is she affectionate? That kind of thing! Ask if you can kiss her, compliment what she's wearing and thank her for any kindness she shows you.
BUT, ring her, text her much more than these coaches tell you... or she'll get bored of you
This is one of the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. And I’ve been on redit…Please stop trying to sabotage impressionable men. Thank you.
@@HapyyTheCat omg, it's what women want, so if you want to REALLY be relationship material you will realise yr insult for a start, won't help you. I know, I have helped with very successful relationships, where the guy receives a beautiful genuine loving woman to give him children and genuine love
An agent
Not playing games, sweetheart. Improving communication in dating is not manipulative. The skills are transferable too.
TODD , can you please talk on how you use framecontrol and shittest passing to create value in a mixed set where you cant directly talk to the girl.
In almost all of your infield you never show how you manage the group or build attraction with the girl while managing a big group.
@toddvalentine