13:33 Because you had some trees selected. You can't raise or lower trees so if you untick trees from Move it and select just the buildings you can raise and lower fine 👍
29:44 You dont have a "you go through" sign active on the first exit which made all the cars stop mid-roundabout and wouldnt flow as it should. Was so frustrating to watch xDD
He flies through clicking things on the roundabouts so fast and missing things like that I end up yelling at the screen like I’m watching a football match
@@alexridley4419 Yes its really frustrating, he is very enthusiastic which is good, but clicking things really fast while not paying any attention at all what is actually happening
39:30 They are waiting so far back because the UK style motorway road doesn't enable "Hugo Through" as its treated as a 6 lane two way road instead of two seperate highways, without lane connectors they could actually come down a ramp and cross over the motorway. They are so far back as they use the lines that you can adjust in Node Controller as their stop line
When you added in the new power plant, you used anarchy to put it in. This allowed the existing industrial buildings to still be there and clip through the plant. The same thing with the new water treatment facility. I love your videos and I'm so glad I'm finally all caught up!
I think I've noticed the traffic problem. On the third roundabout coming in from the motorway, you have the incoming lane to left turn only, so there's no other oprions for them to go anywhere else but the industrial area and back round
If you're referring to the tiny roundabout, the cars aren't forced to turn left, but they do seem to be forced to using that 1 lane that goes left or straight. Changing things, he could make the left lane go right only, the the right lane go straight and right. That would better utilize the roundabout.
The arrows say left, because the vehicles are turning left to enter the roundabout, rather than forcing them to take the first left turning off of the roundabout. My satnav says the same thing on a lot of real roundabouts.
That huge line of traffic heading almost off the map at the end of the video... Here's my thought. That secondary, temporary interchange off of the highway has a huge advantage over the first, main one - it's not leading into a tiny, problematic roundabout. It just dumps straight into the residential area. And I'm willing to bet that the VAST majority of those cars still trying to get in are trying to get to the residential area to move in. So here's my suggestion: 41:24 - that collector that leads from the interchange roundabout to the middle-sized roundabout. Disable private vehicles from using it. Let trucks and services through but ban private vehicles. Doing so should force all of those private vehicles to get out of the line and continue down the highway to the other interchange, where they have a straight shot to the residential area, while also letting all of the other vehicles - especially the vehicles trying to bring fuel to your power plants - get in through the city, where their destinations are usually a lot closer. Once the incoming move-in traffic is all cleared out and things settle down, you can lift the private vehicle ban on the main interchange and get rid of the secondary one.
I feel sometimes leaving in imperfections is perfectly good, sometimes a house will cross a few more cells or different heights. Embrace the British perfectly imperfect. And have shopping trolleys and nettle and bramble patches!!!
30:24 Another problem with that roundabout, you haven't turned off pedestrian crossings on that first exit. You built a flyover walkway but didn't stop pedestrians crossing and it's backing the cars up even more (aside from the missing go-through indication on the same node)
Another great video Biffa, I think the problem with the tiny roundabout is that for one of the nodes on the roundabout you have not selected 'you go through' button. 30:25 in de video
LOL, that's a lot of detail for a temporary junction. Also, just to take care of your backlog. You could make the East roundabout-offramp for industry only and force all private cars further down the highway to use the new one you built. Should be closer to their homes in any case. Then undo that once it settles. Just an idea. Great vid!
Heya Biffa! Hope you're soon feeling well again. Just 2 things I noticed that were probably causing some issues: 1) After you replaced the roads on the Problem-a-bout, the pedestrian crossing was allowed again for one junction (the one where you put the pedestrian bridge above). Which is probably what's still hindering the cars going round. 2) It looks like the "highway" roads you are using aren't actual highway roads. They still have pedestrian-crossing options (as seen with Traffic Manager) and thus have the cars not enter junctions by default. Keep up the great content. See you next time. :)
I think you could have zoned 2 units deep, once fully build you could have zoned the opposite side and saved yourself a lot of time (assuming the set contains houses of 2*2 instead of only 2*4)
@@XfStef actually, it would have been, because the theme only contains the terraced houses, so they would have all spawned in as 1x2 and 1x1 buildings, just like he wanted.
At this point I’d take out the little roundabout to The Wave Retail Park and put in a crossroads with long green phases for the main road. The game doesn’t handle small roundabouts well at all
7:50 i think the no zone road was fine. just that the grid from the road across it overlaps perfectly so it doesn't seem that it changed. you could test it on a single piece of road out in the grasslands.
Can't wait til you add the Railway Station in and we get to see some British trains going about. Plenty of great looking vehicles on the workshop especially the London Overground one
You appear to have an extra node on the small roundabout. The cars keep stopping without pedestrians crossing. I think I'd rip out the roundabout, upgrade it to asymmetrical roads + timed traffic lights.
Loving the british theme on this one it's great. And yes we certainly do have the straight terraced roads in England as I live on one. I think they mainly came about during the industrial revaluation to supply all the factories workers with affordable housing close to the work areas. You don't see them being built anymore as it was found people are much happier when they have a garden and greenery to look after and live around. Bit of history there for you.
Glad you are feeling better. Several of my neighbors had Covid a couple of months ago. The vaxxed ones were over it in a couple of days, the unvaxxed were sick for almost a month. I hid in my house all month until everyone was over it and managed to avoid getting it.
Loving the UK theme Biffa, done a few different maps with these roads and they do have little niggles but look amazing especially the slip lanes on motorways. If you look at 30:04 you notice a yellow car coming on the roundabout. Every vehicle that tries to use that lane disappears as they all have to go left into industry hence traffic. I would recommend trying to re do that mini roundabout to solve pedestrians and traffic directions. But well done! look forward to next one!
24:18 A few things to add about the exit, there's usually about 5-700 meters (up to about 1km) between highway exits. Around where I live, quite often an on-ramp almost leads immediately to an off-ramp by roughly 50-100 meters. So yeah, it is very realistic to have them so close. More often than not when going from one place to another in my town, you're on the highway for roughly 10 seconds before you leave it again (unless there's a lot of traffic on the busier highway)
It'd be cool to see an area with some bungalows put in, as a few of the places I've lived in. Have tended to have bungalows be dotted around the outside of an older housing estate, usually alongside 1950's - 1970's types of non council houses. Also a multi-story car park, if such a mod or existing building exists. Would be great to see, if you decide to expand the high street further at some point. Loving these videos, it's really satisfying seeing it all develope!
Hey, I think for the people crossing at the roundabout, there is a setting within traffic manager to stop people crossing, it’s in there somewhere, loving the series, keep the good work up!
"...we did want a block of flats, nice though the abattoir is." I couldn't resist. I saw the several blocks of flats and my first thought was Monty Python's The Meaning of Life "The Miracle of Life Part 2 The Third World" and it cuts to that long row of flats in Yorkshire with the factory in the background! Then their "Architect Sketch" popped into my head so that's what I went with!
1:34 i love how the trucks/lorries just run people over in crosswalks and they keep right on walking. Also the "wiggly" roads section looks like an elephant.
The town I live in has 5 major junctions with A roads, 2 are quite close together with a minor on/off junction to an industrial estate in between. The A roads in question are all 70mph/3 lane so effectively what would be a motorway in the Cities game. So having the junctions close together is totally a thing that happens in the UK!
I do love this city! One day I hope to get to England to see the straight streets with terraced housing for myself, lol! I hope you feel better soon Biffa, happy to have you back creating your amazing content after a well deserved break!
Hi Biffa, glad your feeling better. loving your UK themed map, it looks great, just wish mine looked as good as that. people that complain about the UK not having straight roads or lines of houses obviously haven't traveled across the UK, because no matter where you go, there are always Terraced houses lining both sides of a straight road it's a throw back from the Victorian era, I've lived in the UK my whole life in different towns so not sure where people get this idea that the UK does not have straight roads. Keep up the good work, I look forward to your next upload.
There was one thing that one of the later SimCity games did that I wish CS would do, is that when placing a zone, you could specify a direction as the "front". That way all the buildings in that area would grow in facing the "front" edge of the zone. The "front" still had to face a road, but at least when you had narrow zones with roads on both sides, you could better control which direction the buildings would grow in. I'm wondering if the city could use a small industrial and commercial node at the new interchange end of the city. That might split some of the traffic between the two ends of the city. Just so that not everybody has to go through that one roundabout in order to get to the main shopping center and the sole industrial area.
As a semi-proud Scunthonian, your extra motorway connection is starting to look a lot like the M180/181 Scunthorpe junctions, the population isn't quite what it would be irl but as a satellite view it doesn't look at all silly. If you want to boost the realism maybe consider adding some small villages away from the main town, with those substations to supply power so they don't need a direct connection (or pylons, especially if there's a smaller telegraph-style pylon on the workshop, idk how these things work really).
Biffa you need to drive around North Wales a little, then you'll realise that your "steep hills" are mere bumps and that you certainly can drive up them! Great series, loving it so far.
I replaced all the UK style roads in my city with the Vanilla+ roads and used Intersection Marking Tool go make them look more UK like. I miss the directional bollards at the ends of the roads, but I would rather that than cims ignore me at crossings. Also, 3 small water towers is better than one large one. Same upkeep but more capacity
A suggestion for you, potentially think about adding the “outside the line” mod, let’s you build highway/train infrastructure outside your buildable tile limit but still restricts your population to the milestone tiles.
30:24 you just don't have "you go through" option on the bottom node. How you didn't notice that, I can't really fathom Also, I doubt that this roundabout is properly configured since all cars are stuck in left lane
15:45 "I don't think anyone will be able to drive up there". Biffa may I introduce you to Meg Lane and Cliffe End Road in Paddock, just outside Huddersfield?
Hey Biffa 😊 I'm currently in my own COVID isolation too here in Aotearoa/New Zealand. Sorry to hear it's dragged on for you, but I'm glad you're better and up to the task of recording because I need your videos to get me through my iso! Stay well please, and thanks for all the content 💖
Oh, thank god you finally connected the ends of those housing roads. I didn't want to complain, but you don't know how bad those dead-ends were bugging me! XD Love the series!
Glad you are starting to feel better if you look at maps of most coal fired power stations in the UK they usually have a open air coal warehouse next to them and are away from industrial estates with maybe a tree like splitting road to them directly from a major highway (A road or motorway) I would suggest maybe as you now have two Battersea plants move them to the other side of the motor way of that main roundabout off of you M road. It would then cause your heavy coal lorries to split away from the traffic heading into the Town and also move the pollution to the other side of the M road also.
When I get a huge influx of traffic from people moving in I usually temporarily lose the Yield signs on the round a bout until it clears. Usually makes it go a little quicker without doing any major changes.
Around 30:25, the issue roundabout had a section that didn't have the go through option. That was making all of the cars stop on the roundabout, which caused a massive slow in traffic. I hope that makes sense and can be seen.
Hope you get over it soon, Biffa. I have a former coworker who was out for a month with covid related exhaustion, and a friend who hasn't been able to return to work since she got covid way back in 2020.
10:30 Tonight, on Neighbours from Hell, an entire estate embroiled in a bitter war over a so called "plague" of trees blocking light to over half the residences.
You should smooth out the terrain between your gridded roads, a previous mistake you had where your roads were set to be placed several metres below terrain level caused the bump which your terraces conform to during “set to terrain height”. Always make sure that your road elevation is 0 when you don’t want tunnels or bridges!
On the topic of terraced houses gardens extending too far. I use a 5 square gap between roads and run a path down the middle which gives a 2 deep zone for each road. Alternatively the Zoning Adjuster mod you used allows you to set the zoning depth to 2 squares.
Those T-shaped Victorian Villas look cool and all but, the door opens up RIGHT on the road. You walk out your door and SPLAT! I dunno, maybe they could move back just a scootch.
You could ban right-turns at the crossroads by Princesshay Park. That would force traffic for Thornaby to turn right at the big roundabout and so it wouldn't get snarled up by the small roundabout outside The Wave.
If you want inspiration for a UK town with a mixture of straight road, lower income neighbourhoods and windy road, higher income estates with incredible road layout look at Stevenage. Started to develop heavily in the 60s for London workers that couldn’t afford London it’s what I base my UK towns and villages around
Hi Biffa, some bigger towns/cities would have a junction a and b to allow exits on different sides of the city. You could feasibly have an off ramp without an on ramp to allow traffic into your new area and still be realistic.
The terraced houses with the long gardens stretching all the way to the next street actually remind me of a street near my parents' place. Just a whole chunk of one street opposite the primary school I went to which were just the back gates of the next street's gardens.
Nice, Blightea-On-The-Wold on top of the Xisuma traffic fix, while Hermitcraft 9 Episode 2 is getting released and I’m still binge watching Episode 1… my RUclips watchtime really has its work cut out for it
I think the Industrial estate needs a dedicated junction on the West side for both ways and only local delivery trucks should be allowed to use the minor road to come in and out of the town. The M49 is getting such a junction for Bristol Amazon distribution and an expanded estate.
You could ban private vehicles on the first city entrance and force everybody to use the other one, i think that would bypass the roundabout chokepoints pretty nicely without having to wait extended periods of time or fanagling with the roads itself. In theory, it sounds like a quick win, and it would "reserve" the exit for industry for the time being.
Loving this series. Perhaps in your streets of victorian terraced houses, put a tiny amount of commercial on some corners. Many streets like this (I live In a Victorian terraced area), there's the odd corner pub or laundrette or corner shop. Just a thought 🙂
COVID and young children is an absolute nightmare. I teach 7-9 year olds. At one point, had 15/26 left in class - all positive LFD/confirmatory PCR. Interestingly, poorly for 48-72hrs beforehand before testing positive.
You should name the clone of Battersea power station next door to it and call it Batter-tea. Not only is it a Tea pun it's the next letter in the alphabet to S, like where you'd have [Powerplant] A and [Powerplant] B literally next door. Also, for a future power station, you need one with a "Merry-Go-Round" coal railway terminal. Build a one-way loop like you did with the airport cargo terminal in New Tealand, basically. Also: (gasps for air) The UK motorways act as your regular multi-lane roads do, as they are essentially just that, except they render a piece of grass median on junctions. This is why they are keeping the junction clear by default. You're going to have to remember to change every junction to allow them to "block" the "junction" using these roads.
Those three roundabouts one after another at the city entrance is a bit much I think. I’d consider removing the ability to turn into the high rises from the smallest roundabout so it’s basically dedicated to the retail park. You can then connect the two roads at either side of the high rises that currently end just on the edge of the main road to the industrial area. That will get traffic going to the high rises to come off at the first big roundabout which should be faster/smoother. For traffic coming in the other direction they can still get to the high rises from the junction just after the small roundabout.
look @30:25 ! the cars aren't going quickly through the roundabout b/c they are stopping inside the roundabout b/c "go straight through" while on the roundabout isn't enabled at that intersection.
Woo Hoo like number 308! Love the build so far. Glad to see your recovering as well. I also had the dang thing and still have a lingering cough a few weeks later. Of course it could be that I live at almost 10,000 ft in the Rockies and it’s been consistently below freezing the last couple of weeks. Regardless glad you and the family are well. Keep up the great work Biffa!
Short term fix, ban cars from entering the town at the main junction, forcing them to go to the new junction. It will filter the cars from getting entangled with the industrial/retail traffic and roundabouts etc and they will enter the town right where the new houses are. It is clearly a more fluid way into town as traffic from that direction has already cleared.
The issue of not being able to level the buildings with ctrl+h is might be because you also selected something that was already on ground level. Like a rock or something that was already there
Endless Terrace houses. I assume that's how british housing is. I like letting the game do it's thing with basic styles rather than pasting the same house again and again and again.... Depends on what your used to. In Australia it's generally uncommon for 20 to 30 houses in a row being 100% identical. So its a matter of personal what your used to.
Trains needing 11k population. That's gotta be a excessivly buildable map. Like not much high mountains and ocean in the way.. Makes sense though for english countryside, is mostly just tree's and pastures over rolling hills(which fall under buildable, unlike mountains).
I think I found your traffic problem on the little round about in front of retail row! The second intersection where you built the pedestrian crossing isn’t set to “you go through” I noticed it the second time you checked it. The one that you selected was for the incoming traffic. Not the ones on the roundabout. Hopefully this helps!
Does anyone else feel a sense of teamwork, or am I the only one that screams at 15m11s that the power is out in Croydon Gardens? Excuse the pun, but I felt powerless!
Biffa, i know you wont like to do this, but the tiny roundabout... It has to go... It is too small for the amount of traffic it has to handle I can only see 2 solutions on how to solve it: 1. Remove the roundabout and make it a regular light-controlled junction. 2. Move the entrance to The Wave Retail Park off the main artery road and connect it to one of the collector roads.
Some British towns and cities now have a defunct Victorian railway station adjacent to a new modern railway station. Wolverhampton does, for one. That'd work nicely in your partially Victorian city.
Turn the shopping center 90° clockwise to get that main entrance off the main inlet, and delete the little round-about or move it around too. I think that will solve the problem.
The biggest issue you've got with traffic, is that all traffic has to hit that small roundabout, the main route off of the highway shouldn't be impeded with things like that and have slip lanes on/off to keep flow going. Also thats a teeny roundabout for that amount of traffic trying to use it Also, the reason the demand goes down, is because the game thinks that buildings are being abandoned, meaning there's no demand for housing as people are moving out. Tis annoying indeed, but if you can stomach the pain, using the eyedropper or plop the growables for each house XD
13:33 Because you had some trees selected. You can't raise or lower trees so if you untick trees from Move it and select just the buildings you can raise and lower fine 👍
Also would have worked if he had nodes selected in the move-it selector
29:44 You dont have a "you go through" sign active on the first exit which made all the cars stop mid-roundabout and wouldnt flow as it should. Was so frustrating to watch xDD
Agree
Yeah I noticed that as well. Must have happened when he put that pedestrian flyover in.
@@KaoSBluey it was happening before the overpass was put in
He flies through clicking things on the roundabouts so fast and missing things like that I end up yelling at the screen like I’m watching a football match
@@alexridley4419 Yes its really frustrating, he is very enthusiastic which is good, but clicking things really fast while not paying any attention at all what is actually happening
"No power....has anything disappeared?"
Yes Biffa... You deleted the entire housing estate connecting it together 😂
I was laughing at that one as will.
LOL I came here just to say that ahhaahah "what about the whole section of houses you deleted Biffa??" LOLOLOL
COVID brain is real lol
Oh Biffa, don't ever change 😂
39:30 They are waiting so far back because the UK style motorway road doesn't enable "Hugo Through" as its treated as a 6 lane two way road instead of two seperate highways, without lane connectors they could actually come down a ramp and cross over the motorway. They are so far back as they use the lines that you can adjust in Node Controller as their stop line
When you added in the new power plant, you used anarchy to put it in. This allowed the existing industrial buildings to still be there and clip through the plant. The same thing with the new water treatment facility.
I love your videos and I'm so glad I'm finally all caught up!
I think I've noticed the traffic problem. On the third roundabout coming in from the motorway, you have the incoming lane to left turn only, so there's no other oprions for them to go anywhere else but the industrial area and back round
If you're referring to the tiny roundabout, the cars aren't forced to turn left, but they do seem to be forced to using that 1 lane that goes left or straight. Changing things, he could make the left lane go right only, the the right lane go straight and right. That would better utilize the roundabout.
The arrows say left, because the vehicles are turning left to enter the roundabout, rather than forcing them to take the first left turning off of the roundabout. My satnav says the same thing on a lot of real roundabouts.
@@CouchPotator that was my initial thoughts too...left lane to turn left, and right lane for straight on and right.
That huge line of traffic heading almost off the map at the end of the video... Here's my thought.
That secondary, temporary interchange off of the highway has a huge advantage over the first, main one - it's not leading into a tiny, problematic roundabout. It just dumps straight into the residential area. And I'm willing to bet that the VAST majority of those cars still trying to get in are trying to get to the residential area to move in. So here's my suggestion: 41:24 - that collector that leads from the interchange roundabout to the middle-sized roundabout. Disable private vehicles from using it. Let trucks and services through but ban private vehicles. Doing so should force all of those private vehicles to get out of the line and continue down the highway to the other interchange, where they have a straight shot to the residential area, while also letting all of the other vehicles - especially the vehicles trying to bring fuel to your power plants - get in through the city, where their destinations are usually a lot closer. Once the incoming move-in traffic is all cleared out and things settle down, you can lift the private vehicle ban on the main interchange and get rid of the secondary one.
I feel sometimes leaving in imperfections is perfectly good, sometimes a house will cross a few more cells or different heights.
Embrace the British perfectly imperfect.
And have shopping trolleys and nettle and bramble patches!!!
hey Biffa there is still one section of road off the motorway roundabout that is vanilla, and it's on both exits now since you copied them haha
Pretty sure because he doesn't have a suitable UK-style replacement.
30:24 Another problem with that roundabout, you haven't turned off pedestrian crossings on that first exit. You built a flyover walkway but didn't stop pedestrians crossing and it's backing the cars up even more (aside from the missing go-through indication on the same node)
Another great video Biffa, I think the problem with the tiny roundabout is that for one of the nodes on the roundabout you have not selected 'you go through' button. 30:25 in de video
Raging at my TV watching this
@@automation7295 frustration? Sorry to wake you cupcake, 😘 I didn’t know you could hear me from there.
@@tylerm.9408 Yeah, I don't know why that other person is so pressed. Raging at a tv/monitor/etc is just a common expression lol
Let's play a game: take a shot of tea everytime Biffa says "I'm wondering whether..."
I have over 500 teabags in my house but I don't think I have enough for this challenge.
LOL, that's a lot of detail for a temporary junction. Also, just to take care of your backlog. You could make the East roundabout-offramp for industry only and force all private cars further down the highway to use the new one you built. Should be closer to their homes in any case. Then undo that once it settles. Just an idea. Great vid!
32:30 to those who wonder why the roads are up in the air: move it! option "follow terrain" is disabled
Wow. Never knew that, thank you!
I’m not sure why you’re worried about the traffic, chock-a-block motorways, slow moving roads and queueing are pretty much staples of British life!!
Yeah clearly Biffa has never been on the M6 around Birmingham.
Or the m4 in Bristol
Heya Biffa! Hope you're soon feeling well again.
Just 2 things I noticed that were probably causing some issues:
1) After you replaced the roads on the Problem-a-bout, the pedestrian crossing was allowed again for one junction (the one where you put the pedestrian bridge above). Which is probably what's still hindering the cars going round.
2) It looks like the "highway" roads you are using aren't actual highway roads. They still have pedestrian-crossing options (as seen with Traffic Manager) and thus have the cars not enter junctions by default.
Keep up the great content. See you next time. :)
I think you could have zoned 2 units deep, once fully build you could have zoned the opposite side and saved yourself a lot of time (assuming the set contains houses of 2*2 instead of only 2*4)
it wouldn't have been the proper tight urban sprawl shithole aesthetic that he was going for :D
@@XfStef actually, it would have been, because the theme only contains the terraced houses, so they would have all spawned in as 1x2 and 1x1 buildings, just like he wanted.
I had the same thought! Or maybe slightly space the roads wider and put something in between?
At this point I’d take out the little roundabout to The Wave Retail Park and put in a crossroads with long green phases for the main road. The game doesn’t handle small roundabouts well at all
7:50 i think the no zone road was fine. just that the grid from the road across it overlaps perfectly so it doesn't seem that it changed. you could test it on a single piece of road out in the grasslands.
Can't wait til you add the Railway Station in and we get to see some British trains going about. Plenty of great looking vehicles on the workshop especially the London Overground one
You appear to have an extra node on the small roundabout. The cars keep stopping without pedestrians crossing.
I think I'd rip out the roundabout, upgrade it to asymmetrical roads + timed traffic lights.
When duplicating multiple buildings, it's good to have the "follow terrain" option in MoveIt turned on so they will snap to the terrain height.
Loving the british theme on this one it's great. And yes we certainly do have the straight terraced roads in England as I live on one. I think they mainly came about during the industrial revaluation to supply all the factories workers with affordable housing close to the work areas. You don't see them being built anymore as it was found people are much happier when they have a garden and greenery to look after and live around. Bit of history there for you.
Glad you are feeling better. Several of my neighbors had Covid a couple of months ago. The vaxxed ones were over it in a couple of days, the unvaxxed were sick for almost a month. I hid in my house all month until everyone was over it and managed to avoid getting it.
30:32 "you go through" is not selected for the 2nd roundabout section so all the cars stop before going through
Loving the UK theme Biffa, done a few different maps with these roads and they do have little niggles but look amazing especially the slip lanes on motorways. If you look at 30:04 you notice a yellow car coming on the roundabout. Every vehicle that tries to use that lane disappears as they all have to go left into industry hence traffic. I would recommend trying to re do that mini roundabout to solve pedestrians and traffic directions. But well done! look forward to next one!
Loving all these traffic vids of late, Biffa. Glad to hear you're finally starting to feel better, too!
24:18 A few things to add about the exit, there's usually about 5-700 meters (up to about 1km) between highway exits. Around where I live, quite often an on-ramp almost leads immediately to an off-ramp by roughly 50-100 meters. So yeah, it is very realistic to have them so close. More often than not when going from one place to another in my town, you're on the highway for roughly 10 seconds before you leave it again (unless there's a lot of traffic on the busier highway)
It'd be cool to see an area with some bungalows put in, as a few of the places I've lived in. Have tended to have bungalows be dotted around the outside of an older housing estate, usually alongside 1950's - 1970's types of non council houses. Also a multi-story car park, if such a mod or existing building exists. Would be great to see, if you decide to expand the high street further at some point. Loving these videos, it's really satisfying seeing it all develope!
Hey, I think for the people crossing at the roundabout, there is a setting within traffic manager to stop people crossing, it’s in there somewhere, loving the series, keep the good work up!
When i saw the 20% traffic I said to myself: "Well this chap needs Biffa to do a traffic fix!"
"...we did want a block of flats, nice though the abattoir is."
I couldn't resist. I saw the several blocks of flats and my first thought was Monty Python's The Meaning of Life "The Miracle of Life Part 2 The Third World" and it cuts to that long row of flats in Yorkshire with the factory in the background! Then their "Architect Sketch" popped into my head so that's what I went with!
That junction in Blight-on-the-World was so dangerous. Just cars driving over people and nearly crashing into each other.
1:34 i love how the trucks/lorries just run people over in crosswalks and they keep right on walking. Also the "wiggly" roads section looks like an elephant.
The town I live in has 5 major junctions with A roads, 2 are quite close together with a minor on/off junction to an industrial estate in between. The A roads in question are all 70mph/3 lane so effectively what would be a motorway in the Cities game. So having the junctions close together is totally a thing that happens in the UK!
I do love this city! One day I hope to get to England to see the straight streets with terraced housing for myself, lol! I hope you feel better soon Biffa, happy to have you back creating your amazing content after a well deserved break!
Hi Biffa, glad your feeling better. loving your UK themed map, it looks great, just wish mine looked as good as that. people that complain about the UK not having straight roads or lines of houses obviously haven't traveled across the UK, because no matter where you go, there are always Terraced houses lining both sides of a straight road it's a throw back from the Victorian era, I've lived in the UK my whole life in different towns so not sure where people get this idea that the UK does not have straight roads. Keep up the good work, I look forward to your next upload.
There was one thing that one of the later SimCity games did that I wish CS would do, is that when placing a zone, you could specify a direction as the "front". That way all the buildings in that area would grow in facing the "front" edge of the zone. The "front" still had to face a road, but at least when you had narrow zones with roads on both sides, you could better control which direction the buildings would grow in. I'm wondering if the city could use a small industrial and commercial node at the new interchange end of the city. That might split some of the traffic between the two ends of the city. Just so that not everybody has to go through that one roundabout in order to get to the main shopping center and the sole industrial area.
As a semi-proud Scunthonian, your extra motorway connection is starting to look a lot like the M180/181 Scunthorpe junctions, the population isn't quite what it would be irl but as a satellite view it doesn't look at all silly. If you want to boost the realism maybe consider adding some small villages away from the main town, with those substations to supply power so they don't need a direct connection (or pylons, especially if there's a smaller telegraph-style pylon on the workshop, idk how these things work really).
Biffa you need to drive around North Wales a little, then you'll realise that your "steep hills" are mere bumps and that you certainly can drive up them! Great series, loving it so far.
I replaced all the UK style roads in my city with the Vanilla+ roads and used Intersection Marking Tool go make them look more UK like. I miss the directional bollards at the ends of the roads, but I would rather that than cims ignore me at crossings.
Also, 3 small water towers is better than one large one. Same upkeep but more capacity
A suggestion for you, potentially think about adding the “outside the line” mod, let’s you build highway/train infrastructure outside your buildable tile limit but still restricts your population to the milestone tiles.
Could be really helpful for solving that traffic backup ;)
30:24 you just don't have "you go through" option on the bottom node. How you didn't notice that, I can't really fathom
Also, I doubt that this roundabout is properly configured since all cars are stuck in left lane
literally just commented this too xD Was so frustrating to watch oml
"It's too steep I don't think people'd be able to drive up that."
Your typical driveway in Appalachia is twice the incline, my friend. People make do.
15:45 "I don't think anyone will be able to drive up there".
Biffa may I introduce you to Meg Lane and Cliffe End Road in Paddock, just outside Huddersfield?
Hey Biffa 😊 I'm currently in my own COVID isolation too here in Aotearoa/New Zealand. Sorry to hear it's dragged on for you, but I'm glad you're better and up to the task of recording because I need your videos to get me through my iso! Stay well please, and thanks for all the content 💖
Oh, thank god you finally connected the ends of those housing roads. I didn't want to complain, but you don't know how bad those dead-ends were bugging me! XD Love the series!
Glad you are starting to feel better
if you look at maps of most coal fired power stations in the UK they usually have a open air coal warehouse next to them and are away from industrial estates with maybe a tree like splitting road to them directly from a major highway (A road or motorway) I would suggest maybe as you now have two Battersea plants move them to the other side of the motor way of that main roundabout off of you M road. It would then cause your heavy coal lorries to split away from the traffic heading into the Town and also move the pollution to the other side of the M road also.
When I get a huge influx of traffic from people moving in I usually temporarily lose the Yield signs on the round a bout until it clears. Usually makes it go a little quicker without doing any major changes.
I learn more when things go wrong and how Biffa fixes his way out of the mess
Around 30:25, the issue roundabout had a section that didn't have the go through option. That was making all of the cars stop on the roundabout, which caused a massive slow in traffic. I hope that makes sense and can be seen.
I feel like this game cant get old. Its as cool and entertaining as when it came out.
Hope you get over it soon, Biffa. I have a former coworker who was out for a month with covid related exhaustion, and a friend who hasn't been able to return to work since she got covid way back in 2020.
10:30 Tonight, on Neighbours from Hell, an entire estate embroiled in a bitter war over a so called "plague" of trees blocking light to over half the residences.
17:38 "Has Anything disapeared? " Yes you deleted like 80 houses that was carrying the power from thornsby
You should smooth out the terrain between your gridded roads, a previous mistake you had where your roads were set to be placed several metres below terrain level caused the bump which your terraces conform to during “set to terrain height”. Always make sure that your road elevation is 0 when you don’t want tunnels or bridges!
On the topic of terraced houses gardens extending too far. I use a 5 square gap between roads and run a path down the middle which gives a 2 deep zone for each road. Alternatively the Zoning Adjuster mod you used allows you to set the zoning depth to 2 squares.
@@hannahm8479 that works too 😀
23:32 "That should overlap ok"
Yes the power plant did overlap.....those buildings...that you didnt remove.
Those T-shaped Victorian Villas look cool and all but, the door opens up RIGHT on the road. You walk out your door and SPLAT! I dunno, maybe they could move back just a scootch.
You could ban right-turns at the crossroads by Princesshay Park. That would force traffic for Thornaby to turn right at the big roundabout and so it wouldn't get snarled up by the small roundabout outside The Wave.
Biffa: *Deletes whole neighbourhood*
Game: *No power to suburb.*
Biffa: "what has happened? Has anything disappeared? I don't think so."
Classic.
If you want inspiration for a UK town with a mixture of straight road, lower income neighbourhoods and windy road, higher income estates with incredible road layout look at Stevenage. Started to develop heavily in the 60s for London workers that couldn’t afford London it’s what I base my UK towns and villages around
Hi Biffa, some bigger towns/cities would have a junction a and b to allow exits on different sides of the city. You could feasibly have an off ramp without an on ramp to allow traffic into your new area and still be realistic.
I know I've said it a bunch of times before, but I really do love those little sound effects you've been adding in LUL
Great to see that after all this time, traffic can still sneak up and surprise even Biffa! :-)
The terraced houses with the long gardens stretching all the way to the next street actually remind me of a street near my parents' place. Just a whole chunk of one street opposite the primary school I went to which were just the back gates of the next street's gardens.
Also, having previously lived in a terraced house on a hill, the "stepped" look of a row of terraces on a slope feels iconic...
Nice, Blightea-On-The-Wold on top of the Xisuma traffic fix, while Hermitcraft 9 Episode 2 is getting released and I’m still binge watching Episode 1… my RUclips watchtime really has its work cut out for it
I think the Industrial estate needs a dedicated junction on the West side for both ways and only local delivery trucks should be allowed to use the minor road to come in and out of the town. The M49 is getting such a junction for Bristol Amazon distribution and an expanded estate.
I think the wee little roundabout that's causing trouble is missing a push-through at it's 3 o'clock, assuming 12 o'clock is facing the highway.
You could ban private vehicles on the first city entrance and force everybody to use the other one, i think that would bypass the roundabout chokepoints pretty nicely without having to wait extended periods of time or fanagling with the roads itself. In theory, it sounds like a quick win, and it would "reserve" the exit for industry for the time being.
Loving this series. Perhaps in your streets of victorian terraced houses, put a tiny amount of commercial on some corners. Many streets like this (I live In a Victorian terraced area), there's the odd corner pub or laundrette or corner shop. Just a thought 🙂
COVID and young children is an absolute nightmare. I teach 7-9 year olds. At one point, had 15/26 left in class - all positive LFD/confirmatory PCR. Interestingly, poorly for 48-72hrs beforehand before testing positive.
Seeing the traffic queues in the lead in, I did wonder if you'd included the 'Telford and Wrekin Council Realism Mod' and mucked up all the roads. :)
"Help us mayor Biffa, our power is out! - "Ah, yes. Smooth smoooooth"
You should name the clone of Battersea power station next door to it and call it Batter-tea. Not only is it a Tea pun it's the next letter in the alphabet to S, like where you'd have [Powerplant] A and [Powerplant] B literally next door.
Also, for a future power station, you need one with a "Merry-Go-Round" coal railway terminal. Build a one-way loop like you did with the airport cargo terminal in New Tealand, basically.
Also: (gasps for air) The UK motorways act as your regular multi-lane roads do, as they are essentially just that, except they render a piece of grass median on junctions. This is why they are keeping the junction clear by default. You're going to have to remember to change every junction to allow them to "block" the "junction" using these roads.
Those three roundabouts one after another at the city entrance is a bit much I think. I’d consider removing the ability to turn into the high rises from the smallest roundabout so it’s basically dedicated to the retail park.
You can then connect the two roads at either side of the high rises that currently end just on the edge of the main road to the industrial area. That will get traffic going to the high rises to come off at the first big roundabout which should be faster/smoother.
For traffic coming in the other direction they can still get to the high rises from the junction just after the small roundabout.
glad you are starting to feel better. I was completely out of action for 2 weeks when i had it.
"Has anything disappeared? ...Don't think so"
Aside from the whole housing estate that you just deleted :D
look @30:25 ! the cars aren't going quickly through the roundabout b/c they are stopping inside the roundabout b/c "go straight through" while on the roundabout isn't enabled at that intersection.
that new intersection looks like a good place for a golf course
"I dont think people will be able to drive up that".. Biffa, have you seen San Francisco 🤣
Woo Hoo like number 308! Love the build so far. Glad to see your recovering as well. I also had the dang thing and still have a lingering cough a few weeks later. Of course it could be that I live at almost 10,000 ft in the Rockies and it’s been consistently below freezing the last couple of weeks. Regardless glad you and the family are well. Keep up the great work Biffa!
We had it back in January and I am still constantly fighting fatigue and phlegm. Hope you feel better soon.
Think those trees you placed in the Victorian Terrace gardens are too tall - they'd be subsidence issues!!
I was thinking about their poor foundations.
I use motorway roads for my roundabouts. Seems to make the cars think differently
Short term fix, ban cars from entering the town at the main junction, forcing them to go to the new junction. It will filter the cars from getting entangled with the industrial/retail traffic and roundabouts etc and they will enter the town right where the new houses are. It is clearly a more fluid way into town as traffic from that direction has already cleared.
39:57 - they are going up and back down because they already had a path and you forced them to exit with the changes, that will work itself out
The issue of not being able to level the buildings with ctrl+h is might be because you also selected something that was already on ground level. Like a rock or something that was already there
Endless Terrace houses. I assume that's how british housing is. I like letting the game do it's thing with basic styles rather than pasting the same house again and again and again.... Depends on what your used to. In Australia it's generally uncommon for 20 to 30 houses in a row being 100% identical. So its a matter of personal what your used to.
In sticking with the UK theme, there really should be tunnels *beneath* to roundabout for foot traffic
Trains needing 11k population. That's gotta be a excessivly buildable map. Like not much high mountains and ocean in the way.. Makes sense though for english countryside, is mostly just tree's and pastures over rolling hills(which fall under buildable, unlike mountains).
I think I found your traffic problem on the little round about in front of retail row! The second intersection where you built the pedestrian crossing isn’t set to “you go through” I noticed it the second time you checked it. The one that you selected was for the incoming traffic. Not the ones on the roundabout. Hopefully this helps!
Does anyone else feel a sense of teamwork, or am I the only one that screams at 15m11s that the power is out in Croydon Gardens? Excuse the pun, but I felt powerless!
Biffa, i know you wont like to do this, but the tiny roundabout...
It has to go...
It is too small for the amount of traffic it has to handle
I can only see 2 solutions on how to solve it:
1. Remove the roundabout and make it a regular light-controlled junction.
2. Move the entrance to The Wave Retail Park off the main artery road and connect it to one of the collector roads.
Red brick uni with some dodgy student halls! And a seaside town with the colourful terraces along the seafront and an amusement park.
Some British towns and cities now have a defunct Victorian railway station adjacent to a new modern railway station. Wolverhampton does, for one. That'd work nicely in your partially Victorian city.
A real old town towards the river would be nice. With the church/catherdal, oldest pub, a nice park, and the library/university
6:02 Biffa channels his inner Colonel Failure. 😂
Turn the shopping center 90° clockwise to get that main entrance off the main inlet, and delete the little round-about or move it around too. I think that will solve the problem.
The biggest issue you've got with traffic, is that all traffic has to hit that small roundabout, the main route off of the highway shouldn't be impeded with things like that and have slip lanes on/off to keep flow going. Also thats a teeny roundabout for that amount of traffic trying to use it
Also, the reason the demand goes down, is because the game thinks that buildings are being abandoned, meaning there's no demand for housing as people are moving out. Tis annoying indeed, but if you can stomach the pain, using the eyedropper or plop the growables for each house XD