Food for thought: I think it's safe to say that most players are fine mostly using 2 weapons in this game, if we consider this statement right, here is my "pro tip": you should not care AT ALL about what ammo type your sling gun has, just don't use it ever UNTIL you're in your ult, which gives you unlimited ammo anyway so no need to carry anything for it! You will probably find yourself using your sling weapon about as often as you pop your ult anyway, so voila! carry 3 ammo type weapons and only two ammo types maximum and only use your third when you're in your ult, that is by far the most value kind of use you can get out of ballistic. Cheers.
PS: if my opinion above turns out to be a good idea on the long run, it would probably mean that you are better off keeping a close range weapon in your sling, because using your ult to just stand on a rock and tag people with a 30-30 halfway across the map is absolute buffoon behavior and it should be frowned upon.
@@hiphop2u I doubt the tactical cooldown will get a noticeable nerf considering its already at 25 seconds which is the same as Rev's Silence, what they SHOULD nerf is the period of effect on enemies, that smart bullet shouldn't affect you for as long as it does, considering it's a shooting game and not being able to shoot is fucking annoying.
They need an optics tab in the arsenal that allows you to pick preferred sights for weapons. It would be so much better for ballistic, as well as gold, care package, and mixtape.
Whatever optic comes with the gold version is what comes with it, the fact you get a instant gold weapon.. maybe don't use a gun that has a stupid sniper optic on it.
Mozambique is super OP and underrated for his ultimate: fast fire rate, consistent damage + hammer points, good at range and close combat and it has the gold bolt that reloads when you slide
It continues to amaze me how many people avoid mozambique (owing to the culture of "mozambique here" and it looking like a weak weapon) and have no idea it's full auto.
In truth, I didn't know (starting mid season 3 when fortnite went server dead for days in major update, was plkaying with son), until the super power moz event.
Pretty good list. An important factor to consider is that when you use the Ult you are most likely pushing up on a team, which unfortunately means long range weapons are not as desirable. My personal favorite is Devotion: I think you kinda underestimated the free Turbocharger a bit. Hell you don't even need to pack a lot of Energy Ammo, because you'll be using the Devo Sling (almost) only when you're Ulting, so ammo is not a factor.
@@eitan8144 The infinite ammo (while ulting) is part of why you'd only need one ammo stack as Ballistic anyway. At least the way I use his sling gun, it's not necessarily an integral part of my loadout - it's a backup gun.
I personally always carry a Havoc in sling, but only with 80 reserve ammo, the other 2 weapon slots are for 1: A sniper/marksman and 2: An SMG/shotgun. Bonus points if at least 2 of the weapons share an ammo type. Other top picks for sling are Devotion, Rampage or Nemesis
People are replying Havoc in a reply just because of the Turbocharger - while it's a great idea as well, that Devo is gonna have its recoil massively reduced thanks to gold attachies, and with a gold mag + extra quick reloads, you don't even need to aim in order to get a kill with all of that combined.
@@jeffreycramm2783 Holy shit, you've got me on a mission now. Let's say teammate Ballistic w/ Ult and let's say 2 kills in that time for a bonus 10 seconds. You could theoretically be using sheila for *40 seconds straight* before it even started using your ammo. You could get nearly a full minute of non-stop spraying Sheila.
@@jomoeller8965 I did try indeed, although since Sheila doesnt ever reload when its mobile the Ult doesn't affect it. But, you could place it on the ground which would use the infinite ammo, although this was patched earlier early last week
I've been having a lot of fun using shotguns as his backup gun. The only problem is that his ult automatically sets your EVA-8 to double-tap trigger, which can be a little disconcerting if you were expecting full auto. Plus, they synergize pretty well with average gunfight range in this game. I figured I'd never want to have a sniper in the back pocket though - like you said, they require a lot of investment to get to endgame levels. Also I figure that activating his ult is best during pushes, and mayyyyyybe I don't want to be too far back as my squad is busy barrel stuffing people.
If you have three different ammo type weapons, all you need is one stack of it for the sling as an emergency, cus with Ballistic being an Assault class legend, you carry more ammo per stack. One stack of Sniper ammo becomes 37, (enough for you to take a few shots, even for the CR) Shotgun is 21 (nearly three fourths of two full stacks for no Assault Legends) again, fine. The other three (Light, Heavy and Energy) are 80 each, more than enough to use the sling weapon for a few clips. The RE-45 as a sling makes good use of a single full stack.
you cant put any special gun(pre-built, carepack) in the third slot, so your comment makes no sense because its a video talking about the best sling weapons not what you can use to make a characters passive irrelevant, if you dont want a sling gun, literally play any other legend...
I'd put the Wingman in S TIer because you can run e.g. R-99, any Sniper & WIngman (as your 3rd) this gives you: * You have all ranges covered. Long range with a Sniper, mid range with the Wingman & close range with R-99. * Your not punished for running a Sniper because you can use the Wingman naked & be fine. So after you use your R-99 you can switch to the WIngman. * The Sniper shares ammo with Wingman & Ballistic being a Assault class gives him extra ammo, 2 stacks = 74 bullets which is plenty for a Longbow/Sentinal & Wingman (Charge Rifle might be cutting it close but should be okay as wel). * The Ult is good with the Wingman.
I would be putting Devotion into S tier, and special mention as u lumped all care packages as just being care package; the L-Star with infinite ammo will decimate fights. u can keep shotting almost forever as im 99% sure the Cooldown period is reduced since ur reload is increased as well, so all the L Star buffs on the care package + the Tempest buffing it as well will make it a unrelenting destroyer
I agree with basically everything other than car and mozam, i feel they chould both be moved up a tier car's ammo type versatility already synergizes great with 2 of the 3 ARs you'll typically run as a primary so if you do need to pull it out while ult is inactive you dont really need to carry another ammo type for it and mozam with hp in his ult is absolutely monstrous and deserves mid to low B tier
An important insight into Ballistic's passive/ult relationship, is that the auto loader doesn't draw from reserve and is an infinite ammo pump for a short period. This means that although a weapon may be good maxed but trash by itself, you don't need to carry any ammo for the sling so any pros given by the third bare weapon are optional. I've been running re45, havoc, or rampage in the sling personally
Back in TF2 days RE-45 was excellent for finishing an opponent after your primary runs out, and I used it in a similar way in Apex. Now with Ballistic it's great to more or less always have one on hand, and as golden it's great for pushing, suppressing with those hammerpoints/quick reloads/infinite ammo and it's 100% my go-to.
i'd honestly put sentinel in S tier, but maybe it's because i dont really use my sling weapon without his ult. but in the ult the insta-amped sentinel with a digithreat is insane at midrange, you can massively disrupt a teamfight with a couple shots
There's a small feature with the PK and an expiring Ballistic ult, where if you have .5 (or less) on the ultimate and you shoot your PK, once it swaps back to your normal version of PK it can shoot again without pumping.
Having a CAR plus a mid range heavy or light gun is pretty sick because then they can just swap places in the sling as and when it suits you, without sacrificing your stock and mag. Then Your other weapon can be energy, shotgun or sniper and just not get swapped around in the sling.
I recently played a game with the r301 slung and I got a five kill game and won and I used it like the entire game I had tons of ammo and two other guns but that thing is nasty at close range without the super and rushing in a fight and clutch for 2v1s with the super going. It’s gross. I love that and the re45
I mean technically you can just switch the weapon in the sling to one your carrying and if they are similar then you wont lose your attachments. Just imagine running an R9 as the main weapon then putting it in the sling to quickly ball out.
Oh, I need to try that sling RE ASAP. Same with the Rampage. In the meantime, the Triple Take has been my favorite so far, as I think it’s good enough without attachments but gains a significant buff through the ultimate. Least favorite? Probably the Eva. I haven’t tried many things in the sling, mostly shotguns, SMGs, the Havoc, and the Triple Take, as I’ve been trying to find guns that start out decent and take a significant leap upon using the ultimate. The ammo required for the Eva and the fact that I usually prefer not to run double tap make it the weapon with possibly the most drawbacks for me, as the Havoc and Triple Take pair just fine, so the Havoc doesn’t have to be the main weapon I fight with or a panic button, and can do most of its work with a Turbocharger on it.
I think the mozambique could be a goated pick, dont take a lot of ammo for it just save it for those "Fuck i need to reload but the enemy is right there" moments and then fuck them up when you ult
Ngl the 30-30 and G7 in the sling are so good. I’ve never used them in all my time playing apex (and i played since day 0) but lately I’ve been using them so much as a sling, especially with the ult. Or any sniper basically
I've been playing Ballistic A LOT and from what I've found personally I don't like the rampage on him (I'm not the greatest with the gun so that might play into it) I'm a big fan of Devotion or RE45 I think they're by FAR the best sling carry
having a mag of ammo is nice but not necessary, just requires extra thinking with the other two guns in the loadout and paying attention to the ukt timer
Mostly agree except for 4 weapons, the R-301, Flatline, Volt and Car R-301 and Flatline should be B tier as most of the time you would want to run them as a main weapon, I just don't see any combination where a backup assault riffle would be more useful than having it as your main weapon I think Car should be in A tier because of the double ammo type alone, you will find more scenarios where having an extra smg could be useful and having a wider pool of weapons to share ammo with is kinda cool, you could be using a sniper + R-301/Flatline + CAR And for the Volt, its as simple as Nemesis + whatever you want to run + Volt. I think the mere existence of a weapon as strong as the Nemesis and the fact they share ammo type is enough to push it to bottom A or mid A
My top 3 are: Rampage, R99, Prowler. When the ult is pulled the sling gun is auto pulled out, so I don't like hammer point RE45 in that slot. I also think the Lstar will be #1 when/if it returns to the floor, nerfed or not infinite ammo and the No mag feature will be very strong.
Dude be preaching about the re-45 it's been my fave secondary back when it wasn't in the care package, due to it not bein there everytime. If you really deck out the 45 it's a beast in close range.
Imagine getting the rampart modded versions of all these weapons. that should be a warcrime Imagine you are rampart with 2 rampart modded LMGs, like the Devo and the rampage, and you have Sheila. But you also have ballistic on your team, who is ulting. fast reloads with rampart LMG passive with the modded hop-up. That would destroy the lobby (as long as you can aim).
imo the triple take is really good and might be a must pick for me beacuse it can do everything even without attachments and with the new buffs it requires 1 stack of ammo to pop of
The Mozam with no attachments is definitely still a solid weapon, you have to think of it as the finisher... When the last bullet in your r-99 doesn't get the knock and your other weapon needs to be reloaded, whipping out a Mozam and shooting with no real need for real precise accuracy and getting the knock is SWEET.
I tend to carry weapons that benefit from a gold hop up in the sling & I never carry extra ammo for the sling(only exception would be wingman because a stack of 37 goes a long way with a wingman! ) if it doesn't overlap with one of my main guns... I've learned to treat the sling weapon like a dealer's choice Vantage/ Rampart 3rd weapon, I only use it during ult... I never swap to it outside of popping my ult...
Hope they make a tweak were you can put optics on the sling guns, only reason I won't use wingman on ballistic is because I hate wingman irons (yes even on pay 2 win skin)
The alternator would have been good with disruptor rounds and the prowler with selectfire but you cant always have fun stuff.. lol The R-301 is S tier for me as the sling weapon especially with a car in hand.. the Mozam is a solid choice at the start of the game though.. gotten a few squad wipes with it but lol dont let the dopamine trick you in using it as a late game sling option..
Got to the sentinel an the thought crossed my mind, does the charge for sentinel an the rampage duration longer or anything with ult? Or is it unaffected.
Best video of the season. And with lmgs you kind of loose the extra strafe speed bonus, so u have to put that into account. R99 or RE45 shreds in damage AND in strafe speed, totally S+.
The spitfire has saved me several times when I keep shooting & they’re tryna reload their R-301 or something. That makes it a very good backup gun with it also taking light ammo to go with the R-99 u already have🤷🏽♂️
I feel like charge is good, but for the same reasons why you think it's bad. It's good without attachments, and just gets better with them, so there's no real downside to having a naked Charge Rifle on the sling for emergencies, and it could help with long range battles if you pop the ultimate.
I can mouse mash really fast and I grew up on Titanfall one and two so I can ball out with a Hammond P2020 with no attachments in apex Having it in my sling with a Kraber in my pocket and an R-301 primary and I’ll throw down
I think everyone just forgets that the p2020 has really good hipfire accuracy despite it's crosshair, and with ult gets the laser sight In my humble opinion, the best backup weapon besides re45
Devo should be your go to for sling. You don't really need a 3rd weapon you get infinite ammo when you use ult. Devo never stops shooting seems like and high fire rate so devo should always be your go to
heres all the guns for the people who just came here for that S+: rampage S: re-45 havoc r-99 A: devotion eva-8 r-301 flatline wingman triple take nemesis peacekeeper B: volt prowler p2020 car mastiff C: Mozambique 30-30 repeater spitfire g7 scout sentinel D: alternator longbow F: charge rifle
Mozambican will always be s tier. It’s really good at picking off opponents but people don’t talk about it. It’s great after you crack shields and the increased rate of fire makes it shred.
The correct order, best to worst with best at the front. Reasoning below: GOD TIER - Rampage, Nemisis S - Havock, r99, re45 A - r310, flatline, wingman, volt, prowler, devotion, car B - triple take(possible bottom A tier), peacekeeper, eva-8, mastiff, spitfire C - 30-30 (interchangable with sentinel), sentinel(interchangable with 30-30), alternator, G7-scout D - longbow, mozambique, p2020 F - charge rifle F tier - charge rifle worst obviously - close range no use. D tier - p2020 then mozam because they are both terrible and should be upgraded ASAP, longbow above because of the skullpiercer and the damage at close range when not golden is stupidly good. C tier - g7 at the bottom of C because of the irons - cant see anything but it has a higher payoff when gold then the longbow at mid range when comparing damage output. alternator - your first semi decent weapon - average but not great with no real buff at gold besides mag size. Seninel next because close range it's a beast provided you can use cover - decent irons - can gold auto charge goes get a 4-10 tho which isnt great, prefer a more midrange 3 or 2-4 Can shoot open doors whch us great to have at long range. 3030 highest of c because of the skullpiercer upgrade combined with the charged shot giving a larger bullet size. insnae headshot damage with a 2-4 so its useful at long and short range with good hipfire. can also shoot open doors B tier - spitfire in b because of the mag size upgrade - mag dump 55 swap dump swap dump then go for another 55. then are the shotfuns - if you're running them there going to be in a primary slot with attachments not the sing with exception of the pk but then it doesnt benfit much from the gold. triple take at the top of B due to the good hipfire, 2-4 optic and great damage output at most ranges. A tier - car doesn't benefit much from the gold only mag size, devotion gets turbo but still is outclassed when trying to control the recoil and at anything thats mid range onwards in fghts, the charge up is also still there... prowler above devo because of the mag increace and the hipfire capability becoming nuts. volt is the above average all rounder, forgivng at mid and long range with lethality close up, just not as fast as the wingman. reload speed buff makes it amazng when paired with the skullpiercer because youre never not shooting and its great to have as a base weapon. flatline then 301 due to the fact their base varients are great for poking in single fire whist still having that full auto for amazing mid and decent close up that both become insane when golden. S tier are self explanitory. re gets the hammerpoints and is a solid pick like wingman if youre already in light ammo, 99 is a beast regardless of if sling or primary but only f you can hit shots, if not then its down above triple take. Havock at the top of S because of the turbo - instant pain with a hevy hitting energy weapon that still apcks a big punch without attachments. God tier - nemesis is a beast in general due to its high damage output. can 2 burst anyone with blue or below easily. recoil is easy to control both in slow and fast shots. The gold makes it amazing because you dont eat ammo when cahrging up to fast, the extra reload speed is really important there too! Its the best damage output there is in a mid ranged package with the fastest time to kill compared with ease of kill when ts charged up. It is too good to be run in the sling really however is amazing when your other weapons are a sniper/marksman and a shotgun/smg because it then completes the range triumverant allowing amazing damage at all ranges!!! Rampage is at the top because its a beast when its charged with thermite and its a stalebreaker when charged with thermite off the bat. It isnt good enough as a base weapon to warrent it being in the main loadout but it is good enough to sling. High mag size is also great but the ability to break doors straight away is what sets it that slught bit higher than the nemesis. To anyone that has read this far congratulations, tell me you've read it all. I hope you enjoyed the breakdown and hope it's useful.
I feel like if the weapon also doesn't require that much ammo to use, its really good. Another reason why wingman is at the top, also why peacekeeper would be up there.
So I started to main balistic and I don't even carry ammo for my sling weapon his ult is up so fast that I have it for every fight and I always carry a spare ult excel so I don't think u need to carry any ammo for your sling weapon because u still have 2 other weapons like every other legend
They need to bring back the spitfire's old hip fire recoil it sucks now. The gun still slaps in damage, but after changing the recoil a million times, I gotta wipe my hands every time I pick it up and drop it for a better weapon. I try not to use the hand sanitizer in front of it, though, to spare its feelings.
I could see the Snipers and Marksmen being relevant in a long range team (#3chargerifles), where you use the ult to give the entire team 30 seconds of free long range suppression. Furthermore, there are some people that are absolutely insane with the ironsights sentinel in close range fights which is also a plus.
Honestly I say prowler is better since the hip fire is crazy and aiming doesn’t really require much just pull down on your aiming and there no recoil and with the ultimate just hip fire everyone but this my opinion but I would definitely put it s tier
Kinda embarrassing but I barely figured out the nemesis is an automatic burst weapon xD the whole time ever since it came out I just kept tapping my left mouse button.
For me I just play him as any other legend I don't use the sling weapon (I mainly have the r9, the car or the re45 as my sling weapon) until I have my ultimate then I use it because it has infinite ammo and the fast reload and also because it's gold.
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You should update the finishers tier list please they have added so many since your first one
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Food for thought: I think it's safe to say that most players are fine mostly using 2 weapons in this game, if we consider this statement right, here is my "pro tip": you should not care AT ALL about what ammo type your sling gun has, just don't use it ever UNTIL you're in your ult, which gives you unlimited ammo anyway so no need to carry anything for it! You will probably find yourself using your sling weapon about as often as you pop your ult anyway, so voila! carry 3 ammo type weapons and only two ammo types maximum and only use your third when you're in your ult, that is by far the most value kind of use you can get out of ballistic. Cheers.
PS: if my opinion above turns out to be a good idea on the long run, it would probably mean that you are better off keeping a close range weapon in your sling, because using your ult to just stand on a rock and tag people with a 30-30 halfway across the map is absolute buffoon behavior and it should be frowned upon.
@@hitch4198 Ive been using the mozam and it just shreds with the hammer points up close.
For now. Ballistic ult and tac CD time WILL be nerfed just like with every legend release.
@@hiphop2u I doubt the tactical cooldown will get a noticeable nerf considering its already at 25 seconds which is the same as Rev's Silence, what they SHOULD nerf is the period of effect on enemies, that smart bullet shouldn't affect you for as long as it does, considering it's a shooting game and not being able to shoot is fucking annoying.
@@aa-kz7hc I've been mostly using the eva-8 and Rampage, so many squad wipes already with those guns.
They need an optics tab in the arsenal that allows you to pick preferred sights for weapons. It would be so much better for ballistic, as well as gold, care package, and mixtape.
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You can change optics in mixtape
@@nicodiefenbach5450 I know but you wouldn’t have to manually change them every game
@@nicodiefenbach5450 you can’t in gun game
Whatever optic comes with the gold version is what comes with it, the fact you get a instant gold weapon.. maybe don't use a gun that has a stupid sniper optic on it.
Mozambique is super OP and underrated for his ultimate: fast fire rate, consistent damage + hammer points, good at range and close combat and it has the gold bolt that reloads when you slide
Definetly should’ve been at least A in my opinion. Especially as a sling weapon, it just shreds
i agree i feel like mozam is the best shotgun u can have in a sling
@@jomoeller8965 W opinion
It continues to amaze me how many people avoid mozambique (owing to the culture of "mozambique here" and it looking like a weak weapon) and have no idea it's full auto.
In truth, I didn't know (starting mid season 3 when fortnite went server dead for days in major update, was plkaying with son), until the super power moz event.
Pretty good list.
An important factor to consider is that when you use the Ult you are most likely pushing up on a team, which unfortunately means long range weapons are not as desirable.
My personal favorite is Devotion: I think you kinda underestimated the free Turbocharger a bit. Hell you don't even need to pack a lot of Energy Ammo, because you'll be using the Devo Sling (almost) only when you're Ulting, so ammo is not a factor.
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@@eitan8144 The infinite ammo (while ulting) is part of why you'd only need one ammo stack as Ballistic anyway. At least the way I use his sling gun, it's not necessarily an integral part of my loadout - it's a backup gun.
Rampage gets an instant thermite charge doe
I personally always carry a Havoc in sling, but only with 80 reserve ammo, the other 2 weapon slots are for 1: A sniper/marksman and 2: An SMG/shotgun. Bonus points if at least 2 of the weapons share an ammo type. Other top picks for sling are Devotion, Rampage or Nemesis
People are replying Havoc in a reply just because of the Turbocharger - while it's a great idea as well, that Devo is gonna have its recoil massively reduced thanks to gold attachies, and with a gold mag + extra quick reloads, you don't even need to aim in order to get a kill with all of that combined.
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i can imagine running rampart with a spitfire or devotion or rampage with ballistic. with her extended mag on lmgs, its gonna be nuts
Not to mention she already reloads lmg's faster than normal. That will be quite interesting.
Tempest gives infinite ammo, i think that will allow u to get 1 or 2 extra mag's out of shelia
@@jeffreycramm2783 Holy shit, you've got me on a mission now. Let's say teammate Ballistic w/ Ult and let's say 2 kills in that time for a bonus 10 seconds.
You could theoretically be using sheila for *40 seconds straight* before it even started using your ammo. You could get nearly a full minute of non-stop spraying Sheila.
@@Harry-Manbackdid u try this? i haven’t played with a rampart as a ballistic main 😂
@@jomoeller8965 I did try indeed, although since Sheila doesnt ever reload when its mobile the Ult doesn't affect it. But, you could place it on the ground which would use the infinite ammo, although this was patched earlier early last week
I've been having a lot of fun using shotguns as his backup gun. The only problem is that his ult automatically sets your EVA-8 to double-tap trigger, which can be a little disconcerting if you were expecting full auto. Plus, they synergize pretty well with average gunfight range in this game.
I figured I'd never want to have a sniper in the back pocket though - like you said, they require a lot of investment to get to endgame levels. Also I figure that activating his ult is best during pushes, and mayyyyyybe I don't want to be too far back as my squad is busy barrel stuffing people.
If you have three different ammo type weapons, all you need is one stack of it for the sling as an emergency, cus with Ballistic being an Assault class legend, you carry more ammo per stack.
One stack of Sniper ammo becomes 37, (enough for you to take a few shots, even for the CR)
Shotgun is 21 (nearly three fourths of two full stacks for no Assault Legends) again, fine.
The other three (Light, Heavy and Energy) are 80 each, more than enough to use the sling weapon for a few clips.
The RE-45 as a sling makes good use of a single full stack.
The r-9 that you can get from rampart’s POI is actually so crazy his his ult you don’t even need a sling weapon.
The point of his sling is u dont need to land on specific poi or farm to get specific attachments
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@@viltzz6544 He's talking about barrel/laser/mag/stock being given to a weapon that has none of them in any form prior to using the Ult
you cant put any special gun(pre-built, carepack) in the third slot, so your comment makes no sense because its a video talking about the best sling weapons not what you can use to make a characters passive irrelevant, if you dont want a sling gun, literally play any other legend...
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I'd put the Wingman in S TIer because you can run e.g. R-99, any Sniper & WIngman (as your 3rd) this gives you:
* You have all ranges covered. Long range with a Sniper, mid range with the Wingman & close range with R-99.
* Your not punished for running a Sniper because you can use the Wingman naked & be fine. So after you use your R-99 you can switch to the WIngman.
* The Sniper shares ammo with Wingman & Ballistic being a Assault class gives him extra ammo, 2 stacks = 74 bullets which is plenty for a Longbow/Sentinal & Wingman (Charge Rifle might be cutting it close but should be okay as wel).
* The Ult is good with the Wingman.
This is brilliant
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rather run the rampage to blow up doors instead of the wingman
@@outerspaceisalie Never said it was the best, just that its better then A tier because you can cover all ranges with it.
Would love to see you try to collect all of the nessies now that they all have been found!
I would be putting Devotion into S tier, and special mention as u lumped all care packages as just being care package; the L-Star with infinite ammo will decimate fights. u can keep shotting almost forever as im 99% sure the Cooldown period is reduced since ur reload is increased as well, so all the L Star buffs on the care package + the Tempest buffing it as well will make it a unrelenting destroyer
I agree with basically everything other than car and mozam, i feel they chould both be moved up a tier car's ammo type versatility already synergizes great with 2 of the 3 ARs you'll typically run as a primary so if you do need to pull it out while ult is inactive you dont really need to carry another ammo type for it and mozam with hp in his ult is absolutely monstrous and deserves mid to low B tier
I love putting the rampage in the sling because having a revved up golden rampage absolutely shreds
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An important insight into Ballistic's passive/ult relationship, is that the auto loader doesn't draw from reserve and is an infinite ammo pump for a short period. This means that although a weapon may be good maxed but trash by itself, you don't need to carry any ammo for the sling so any pros given by the third bare weapon are optional. I've been running re45, havoc, or rampage in the sling personally
Back in TF2 days RE-45 was excellent for finishing an opponent after your primary runs out, and I used it in a similar way in Apex. Now with Ballistic it's great to more or less always have one on hand, and as golden it's great for pushing, suppressing with those hammerpoints/quick reloads/infinite ammo and it's 100% my go-to.
i'd honestly put sentinel in S tier, but maybe it's because i dont really use my sling weapon without his ult. but in the ult the insta-amped sentinel with a digithreat is insane at midrange, you can massively disrupt a teamfight with a couple shots
they should make a setting so you can choose which sight it has when you ult
Same for gun game
There's a small feature with the PK and an expiring Ballistic ult, where if you have .5 (or less) on the ultimate and you shoot your PK, once it swaps back to your normal version of PK it can shoot again without pumping.
Re-45 is def my favorite. It’s my secret ultimate weapon. Feels like it shreds faster than the care package version especially in ranked.
Having a CAR plus a mid range heavy or light gun is pretty sick because then they can just swap places in the sling as and when it suits you, without sacrificing your stock and mag. Then Your other weapon can be energy, shotgun or sniper and just not get swapped around in the sling.
Sleeping on the wingman. Increased movement speed plus walking speed whilst ads makes it easily s+ same as re45.
I recently played a game with the r301 slung and I got a five kill game and won and I used it like the entire game I had tons of ammo and two other guns but that thing is nasty at close range without the super and rushing in a fight and clutch for 2v1s with the super going. It’s gross. I love that and the re45
I mean technically you can just switch the weapon in the sling to one your carrying and if they are similar then you wont lose your attachments. Just imagine running an R9 as the main weapon then putting it in the sling to quickly ball out.
Oh, I need to try that sling RE ASAP. Same with the Rampage. In the meantime, the Triple Take has been my favorite so far, as I think it’s good enough without attachments but gains a significant buff through the ultimate. Least favorite? Probably the Eva. I haven’t tried many things in the sling, mostly shotguns, SMGs, the Havoc, and the Triple Take, as I’ve been trying to find guns that start out decent and take a significant leap upon using the ultimate. The ammo required for the Eva and the fact that I usually prefer not to run double tap make it the weapon with possibly the most drawbacks for me, as the Havoc and Triple Take pair just fine, so the Havoc doesn’t have to be the main weapon I fight with or a panic button, and can do most of its work with a Turbocharger on it.
I think the mozambique could be a goated pick, dont take a lot of ammo for it just save it for those "Fuck i need to reload but the enemy is right there" moments and then fuck them up when you ult
Ngl the 30-30 and G7 in the sling are so good. I’ve never used them in all my time playing apex (and i played since day 0) but lately I’ve been using them so much as a sling, especially with the ult. Or any sniper basically
I've been playing Ballistic A LOT and from what I've found personally I don't like the rampage on him (I'm not the greatest with the gun so that might play into it) I'm a big fan of Devotion or RE45 I think they're by FAR the best sling carry
As someone who havent played the game since Season 6 this is also a good video to familiarize me with the new weapons.
having a mag of ammo is nice but not necessary, just requires extra thinking with the other two guns in the loadout and paying attention to the ukt timer
0:33 He says after looking directly at a charge tower
I hate when youtubers are blind like look to the left or right of your screen
Mostly agree except for 4 weapons, the R-301, Flatline, Volt and Car
R-301 and Flatline should be B tier as most of the time you would want to run them as a main weapon, I just don't see any combination where a backup assault riffle would be more useful than having it as your main weapon
I think Car should be in A tier because of the double ammo type alone, you will find more scenarios where having an extra smg could be useful and having a wider pool of weapons to share ammo with is kinda cool, you could be using a sniper + R-301/Flatline + CAR
And for the Volt, its as simple as Nemesis + whatever you want to run + Volt. I think the mere existence of a weapon as strong as the Nemesis and the fact they share ammo type is enough to push it to bottom A or mid A
My top 3 are: Rampage, R99, Prowler. When the ult is pulled the sling gun is auto pulled out, so I don't like hammer point RE45 in that slot. I also think the Lstar will be #1 when/if it returns to the floor, nerfed or not infinite ammo and the No mag feature will be very strong.
4:43 in my opinion i like to rock the sentinel without any scopes like playing the spr in modern warfare 2019 I would put it in top B or last A
Back pocket?
Like.. a prison pocket?
Niiiiiiiiiiice
Dude be preaching about the re-45 it's been my fave secondary back when it wasn't in the care package, due to it not bein there everytime. If you really deck out the 45 it's a beast in close range.
Imagine getting the rampart modded versions of all these weapons. that should be a warcrime
Imagine you are rampart with 2 rampart modded LMGs, like the Devo and the rampage, and you have Sheila. But you also have ballistic on your team, who is ulting.
fast reloads with rampart LMG passive with the modded hop-up. That would destroy the lobby (as long as you can aim).
Rampage, r45, havoc and devotion
imo the triple take is really good and might be a must pick for me beacuse it can do everything even without attachments and with the new buffs it requires 1 stack of ammo to pop of
Pick your fights wisely and this dude is wild bro. If you a person only gonna fight with ult active you don’t need ammo for the sling.
The Mozam with no attachments is definitely still a solid weapon, you have to think of it as the finisher... When the last bullet in your r-99 doesn't get the knock and your other weapon needs to be reloaded, whipping out a Mozam and shooting with no real need for real precise accuracy and getting the knock is SWEET.
I wrote this before letting him finish saying the exact same thing almost verbatim LOL
I tend to carry weapons that benefit from a gold hop up in the sling & I never carry extra ammo for the sling(only exception would be wingman because a stack of 37 goes a long way with a wingman! ) if it doesn't overlap with one of my main guns... I've learned to treat the sling weapon like a dealer's choice Vantage/ Rampart 3rd weapon, I only use it during ult... I never swap to it outside of popping my ult...
In TDM you can use a R-301 P2020 loadout and the P2020 is super busted. I'm talking like your enemies die in about 2-3 seconds
You can get infinite ammo in the range from the range customization. so you dont have to collect it.
Hope they make a tweak were you can put optics on the sling guns, only reason I won't use wingman on ballistic is because I hate wingman irons (yes even on pay 2 win skin)
The alternator would have been good with disruptor rounds and the prowler with selectfire but you cant always have fun stuff.. lol
The R-301 is S tier for me as the sling weapon especially with a car in hand.. the Mozam is a solid choice at the start of the game though.. gotten a few squad wipes with it but lol dont let the dopamine trick you in using it as a late game sling option..
19:58 he says the havoc is S tier and places it there, but the screen says A tier. Idk if that intentional or not.
Got to the sentinel an the thought crossed my mind, does the charge for sentinel an the rampage duration longer or anything with ult? Or is it unaffected.
Best video of the season. And with lmgs you kind of loose the extra strafe speed bonus, so u have to put that into account. R99 or RE45 shreds in damage AND in strafe speed, totally S+.
The spitfire has saved me several times when I keep shooting & they’re tryna reload their R-301 or something. That makes it a very good backup gun with it also taking light ammo to go with the R-99 u already have🤷🏽♂️
Where would you place the peacekeeper and alternator with the new disrupter rounds
I actually really enjoy using the rampage iron sights and I like the rating for it 👍 good list
Love your vids macro
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19:57 @Macro u said s tier but a tier pop up but love the video will be using this
Me personally I would have r-99 and Sentinel as my main two guns then I would have a devotion as my sling weapon
After watching macros tier list on the best apex skins i seconded every tier list video up until now😭. This was a Good tier list
This was a terrible list Mozam over mastiff for sure
I feel like charge is good, but for the same reasons why you think it's bad. It's good without attachments, and just gets better with them, so there's no real downside to having a naked Charge Rifle on the sling for emergencies, and it could help with long range battles if you pop the ultimate.
I can mouse mash really fast and I grew up on Titanfall one and two so I can ball out with a Hammond P2020 with no attachments in apex
Having it in my sling with a Kraber in my pocket and an R-301 primary and I’ll throw down
I think everyone just forgets that the p2020 has really good hipfire accuracy despite it's crosshair, and with ult gets the laser sight
In my humble opinion, the best backup weapon besides re45
Does the flatline and r3 come with anvil rounds when in his ultimate form
The ult can make some crazy plays in pubs
As Ballistic I always pick up a normal load out and just throw the rampage in the sling with no ammo and only use it during his ultimate
Devo should be your go to for sling. You don't really need a 3rd weapon you get infinite ammo when you use ult. Devo never stops shooting seems like and high fire rate so devo should always be your go to
Only thing I dislike about sentinel in sling is that you have to use the threat scope as I like using sentinel close range
I like to use the r101 and r201 in titanfall. Super reliable and easy-to-use weapon.
You should do headshots vs bodyshots because the r99 getting straight headshots while others get body shots seems kinda wack
heres all the guns for the people who just came here for that
S+: rampage
S: re-45
havoc
r-99
A: devotion
eva-8
r-301
flatline
wingman
triple take
nemesis
peacekeeper
B: volt
prowler
p2020
car
mastiff
C: Mozambique
30-30 repeater
spitfire
g7 scout
sentinel
D: alternator
longbow
F: charge rifle
been time since i watch anything Macro. THIS MAN GOT SOME DRIP since last time i watched him.
Mozambican will always be s tier. It’s really good at picking off opponents but people don’t talk about it. It’s great after you crack shields and the increased rate of fire makes it shred.
Question am i dirty for charging rampage using full charge then ulting for a full mag and charge for free
I don’t ever use the third weapon unless I’m using ult, so I don’t carry ammo for it so I’m not wasting inventory space
I run nemesis, car and car for sling. I love the car and its amazingf for close combat, so I just have it get upgraded to gold :)
i would love to see your reaction with surge's ultimate with a rampart modded gun
i just got ballistic and the rampage on the sling is goated af
The correct order, best to worst with best at the front. Reasoning below:
GOD TIER - Rampage, Nemisis
S - Havock, r99, re45
A - r310, flatline, wingman, volt, prowler, devotion, car
B - triple take(possible bottom A tier), peacekeeper, eva-8, mastiff, spitfire
C - 30-30 (interchangable with sentinel), sentinel(interchangable with 30-30), alternator, G7-scout
D - longbow, mozambique, p2020
F - charge rifle
F tier - charge rifle worst obviously - close range no use.
D tier - p2020 then mozam because they are both terrible and should be upgraded ASAP, longbow above because of the skullpiercer and the damage at close range when not golden is stupidly good.
C tier - g7 at the bottom of C because of the irons - cant see anything but it has a higher payoff when gold then the longbow at mid range when comparing damage output. alternator - your first semi decent weapon - average but not great with no real buff at gold besides mag size. Seninel next because close range it's a beast provided you can use cover - decent irons - can gold auto charge goes get a 4-10 tho which isnt great, prefer a more midrange 3 or 2-4 Can shoot open doors whch us great to have at long range. 3030 highest of c because of the skullpiercer upgrade combined with the charged shot giving a larger bullet size. insnae headshot damage with a 2-4 so its useful at long and short range with good hipfire. can also shoot open doors
B tier - spitfire in b because of the mag size upgrade - mag dump 55 swap dump swap dump then go for another 55. then are the shotfuns - if you're running them there going to be in a primary slot with attachments not the sing with exception of the pk but then it doesnt benfit much from the gold. triple take at the top of B due to the good hipfire, 2-4 optic and great damage output at most ranges.
A tier - car doesn't benefit much from the gold only mag size, devotion gets turbo but still is outclassed when trying to control the recoil and at anything thats mid range onwards in fghts, the charge up is also still there... prowler above devo because of the mag increace and the hipfire capability becoming nuts. volt is the above average all rounder, forgivng at mid and long range with lethality close up, just not as fast as the wingman. reload speed buff makes it amazng when paired with the skullpiercer because youre never not shooting and its great to have as a base weapon. flatline then 301 due to the fact their base varients are great for poking in single fire whist still having that full auto for amazing mid and decent close up that both become insane when golden.
S tier are self explanitory. re gets the hammerpoints and is a solid pick like wingman if youre already in light ammo, 99 is a beast regardless of if sling or primary but only f you can hit shots, if not then its down above triple take. Havock at the top of S because of the turbo - instant pain with a hevy hitting energy weapon that still apcks a big punch without attachments.
God tier - nemesis is a beast in general due to its high damage output. can 2 burst anyone with blue or below easily. recoil is easy to control both in slow and fast shots. The gold makes it amazing because you dont eat ammo when cahrging up to fast, the extra reload speed is really important there too! Its the best damage output there is in a mid ranged package with the fastest time to kill compared with ease of kill when ts charged up. It is too good to be run in the sling really however is amazing when your other weapons are a sniper/marksman and a shotgun/smg because it then completes the range triumverant allowing amazing damage at all ranges!!!
Rampage is at the top because its a beast when its charged with thermite and its a stalebreaker when charged with thermite off the bat. It isnt good enough as a base weapon to warrent it being in the main loadout but it is good enough to sling. High mag size is also great but the ability to break doors straight away is what sets it that slught bit higher than the nemesis.
To anyone that has read this far congratulations, tell me you've read it all. I hope you enjoyed the breakdown and hope it's useful.
I feel like if the weapon also doesn't require that much ammo to use, its really good. Another reason why wingman is at the top, also why peacekeeper would be up there.
So I started to main balistic and I don't even carry ammo for my sling weapon his ult is up so fast that I have it for every fight and I always carry a spare ult excel so I don't think u need to carry any ammo for your sling weapon because u still have 2 other weapons like every other legend
They need to bring back the spitfire's old hip fire recoil it sucks now. The gun still slaps in damage, but after changing the recoil a million times, I gotta wipe my hands every time I pick it up and drop it for a better weapon. I try not to use the hand sanitizer in front of it, though, to spare its feelings.
in terms of DPS i think you coulda done a better job. But otherwise good video! the mozam deserves s tier or a tier just for the damage per second.
The triple take attachment would be slide to charge the shot faster
Great Tierlist! Gonna use this when I get ballistic
I could see the Snipers and Marksmen being relevant in a long range team (#3chargerifles), where you use the ult to give the entire team 30 seconds of free long range suppression.
Furthermore, there are some people that are absolutely insane with the ironsights sentinel in close range fights which is also a plus.
No need to keep ammo just when u pop ult make sure to reload gun before ult runs out
Honestly I say prowler is better since the hip fire is crazy and aiming doesn’t really require much just pull down on your aiming and there no recoil and with the ultimate just hip fire everyone but this my opinion but I would definitely put it s tier
Oh god yes, i missed it yesterday thank you so mych Macro
The way he put eren at war crime 💀
Apex could make it so u go to the settings and change the optic for each weapon
Javnt watched the video yet but I'm say it now that there are 4 s tier weapons and they go in this order best to worst. Rampage,r99,Mozambique, re45.
Macro please tell me how you do that thing with your profile picture, i mean the surrounding guns
@ 0:32 there is legit a ult gen to the left of spawn
All i would say is the mastiff should be higher. Getting the best chock with how the mastiff works is so insanely good
You can put. Infinity ammo
Kinda embarrassing but I barely figured out the nemesis is an automatic burst weapon xD the whole time ever since it came out I just kept tapping my left mouse button.
For me I just play him as any other legend I don't use the sling weapon (I mainly have the r9, the car or the re45 as my sling weapon) until I have my ultimate then I use it because it has infinite ammo and the fast reload and also because it's gold.
Had a duo game where I popped ult to fight the second squad with my revved-up Rampage and instead of fighting me the wraith ran into the storm to die.
Does g7 still get double tap with his ult in season 18
I hold a R-99 in my first slot a RE-45 auto in my second slot and a pk in my sling
Who would have thought that the P2020 would be above the CAR, Mastiff and Spitfire on a tier list