Italian Chef & Chef James React to Chef Ranveer's TAWA PIZZA (No Oven Pizza)
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Watch as Vincenzo's Plate teams up with @ChefJamesMakinson to react to Chef Ranveer's innovative Tawa Pizza! 🍕 How does this Indian twist on pizza fare with Italian and American culinary experts? Vincenzo and James dive into the flavors, techniques, and authenticity of Chef Ranveer's Tawa Pizza recipe. Will this fusion dish impress the chefs, or will it miss the mark? Tune in to find out!
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I like Chef Ranveer and how he explained the history of pizza 💪🥰👏Chef James and I enjoy to react together. What videos do you want me and James to react to?
Thank heaven for subtitles lol.
Hey Vincenzo... You know most households in India won't have an oven, TBF. But, I've a quick question: Can pizza be cooked in a microwave oven (in convection mode) if the dough is made the traditional way?
8:08 Vincenzo MY DUDE everything you're saying is right but YOU CANNOT find these ingredients in India!
They're sold as "exotic". 3-4 times the price of local ingredients and only available in very few large cities!
Imagine, You can't even find basil in India easily imagine for pasta. Or Canned Tomatoes. How will you even get that enhanced tomato flavour in pasta? No canned tomatoes, no cherry Tomatoes, no basil.
You won't easily find Peeled tomatoes in India either.
we enjoy your video with Chef James.
I had a lot of fun to make this video with you Vincenzo!
Hey, chef had a lot of fun watching, too.
Simba should join in next time
Thanks for introducing Vincenzo to chef Ranveer! I never thought I'd see three of my favorite chefs in one video!
It's always a pleasure to collaborate with you James! Cheers to more collabs to come!
Please James don't call us Indians "Vegans" we are "Vegetarians"!
There's a clear difference, Vegetarians eat plant based foods, Vegans eat the souls of people!
A few things to explain this:
1. In India, most people will just use the tomatoes available which tend to not be very sweet, or even that acidic compared to what you get in Italy
2. A lot of the veg here are what people in India eat on their pizza, same with the oregano and the chili flakes. It is not Italian, but it is how the dish has been sort of adapted in India to suit our palates
3. Finally, most of his videos are for those who don't even care to cook in house at all, so he is going for the path of the least resistance, which means pan pizza, no yeast etc.
i love this comment i obsessed for years on trying to do things how others do them and lost personal creativity when cooking. but i started over from the basics mainly cause its expensive now to eat and wanted to see if i could make food cheap and tasty.
literally if you want to learn to work with dough just take 1 egg and a hand full of flower and turn it into dough. its all you need. from there since theres no yeast you dont need to let it rest just roll it out and fry it in a pan or cut it into strips to your personal taste. puts cheese on it for flatbread pizza or boil it for noodles you can do anything really with just an egg and flour.
and as you get better add spices or other things for texture. corn flout starches anything you literally almost cant fail making food with 1 egg and any flour product you can even mix them for different textures and flavors. make small tacos ECT its a blank canvas for what you want. there is no need to be extravagant when cooking at home. it will taste just as amazing. roll it flat fry it in a pan while basting it in butter for color. load it up with veggies and cheese whatever your heart desires.
Indian pizza is more similar to western chain style pizza than Italian, though these days restobars and pizzerias in big cities serve authentic Italian pizzas too.
Chef Ranveer is clearly a master of his art and it seems through the tone of the comments from Vincenzo and James that they respect him deeply. You really get the sense that they’re learning as well as critiquing, there’s genuine curiosity from them both. I’m personally hugely in favour of chefs who encourage home cooks like Chef Ranveer does. I’d love to guage the guys’ reactions to some of Ranveer’s signature Indian dishes: he’s a genius 😊
@@rayyanali4471 Yeah pizza was introduced in India via chains like Pizzahut , Dominoes maybe that's the connection
My favorite topings are very similar to what was in the video: green chili pepper (jalapeno or serrano) + oyster mushroom and Buffala. I either open the oven to let water escape or I precook it and add the buffala just at the end.
Indian tomatoes are acidic & sour in nature compared to San Marzano. Hence, vinegar & sugar used by chef Ranveer to alter the taste and make it little sweeter.
Correct asian tomatoes are acidic sour and harder or dense
If it’s acidic why are you adding more vinegar? Logic?
@@nhbmk the acidity is not the right type he wants. So by adding vinegar and sugar, he is altering the acidity profile as well as improving the sweet notes on top of acidity.
@@manaskumarrout1072 okay, thank you kind sir!
I've used hybrid and desi tomatoes for pizza sauce. Summer for like 30-40 minutes then you won't need any sugar or vinegar.
India's situation is a little bit different: many ingredients that one could take for granted in Europe and the so-called "West" are relatively uncommon in India.
🤔 so called west
@@tommcqueen3145 The word
"West" is mostly ideological in geopolitics.
And very very expensive here in south Asia
@@harshapaulraj815Absolutely! Australia is regarded to be a part of the "West" so it is clear that it is not necessarily a geographical demarcation. There is ofcourse a strong sensibility as to what the West refers to and I think in a historical context it is a relatively precise term.
I the modern world, however, it appears that there are certain criterias at play when defining the term and one could argue that certain nations that one would at first regard to be the "west" can potentially fit in.
We are all missing the important reason for a pan pizza. Unlike the US and Europe, Indian households do not have ovens as Indian cooking does not require one.
Hence Ranveer is suggesting a way to recreate a type of pizza.
A bit like how europeans and americans make a type of curry at home which no Indian would recognise.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this video! Would you recreate his pizza at home!?😊
Definetly have done it at home and easily i can make it in 1 to 2 hours before work and enjoy my day because of a nice breakfast. Chef ranvir is a type of chef that is reaching to the youth who are ordering from outside and is trying to give them simple techniques to start at least cooking at a base level a lot of young people still eat outside and i appreciate chef for trying to change the mindset of indian youth.
@@vincenzosplate this is for everyday person it's a easy way to make pizza for them. i own a oven so i make proper pizza i do the 24 hour rise
As an Indian I can clarify our tomatoes aren't that sweet because we use tomato to give acidic taste(my mother does it) but some tomatoes are sweet too
So we(my family) grow tomatoes and pick them up raw for acidic purposes and riped tomatoes for salad and etc....
And san marzano is not easy to find in local cities, maybe they have it in big cities
But keep in mind ranveer is making for middle class people who doesn't have oven, so if they can't afford oven so. They can't afford pricy ingredients 😊
Interesting! Thanks fro sharing this background information!
You have to think about accessibility, as much as I love your videos Vincenzo, you kind of tend to gloss over accessibility, which I can't fault you for, you have access to certain ingredients, especially of certain higher qualities of varying degrees, but this is very much a recipe that's all about accessibility especially for Chef Ranveer's audience. Just like how you hold Gordon or Jaime to a certain scrutiny, that's because they have built not only a career, but an image around a certain standard, Chef Ranveer is simply making accessible recipes for his audience while taking the time to educate said audience. He clearly says this is how it's done around him, he doesn't try to sell it as an authentic Italian dish, so you kind of have to keep in mind who the audience is of who you are reviewing and what they might have available to them.
Exactly … I live in a pretty metropolitan part of India, canned tomatoes (san Marzano or otherwise), certain vegetables that might be common place in Europe are not easily accessible. And as a family with vegetarians, yeast, egg, meat are all a big no-no. And gotta add extra veggies to add some substance to the dish in absence of animal products 🤷♀️. Also Chef Ranveer tries to use easily accessible utensils as well for Indians, I haven’t seen cast iron pans in Indian kitchens much.
@@vasudhasharma5532I'm intrigued. You don't eat breads with yeast? I thought only Jains didn't eat yeast.
@@vasudhasharma5532 Not to mention, pizza being originated as a peasant meal, and tomato being an ingredient indigenous to North America and not introduced to Europe until around the 1600's, for there to be such a critical standard around what is clearly being shown as a regional variation that finds its roots in what a typical home cook would have access to is kinda funny to me. Because again, you should feel comfortable with what you have available to you and Ranveer is doing so fantastically through his videos of teaching you to feel comfortable in your kitchen with what ingredients you can find.
@@Deepa.1973 depends on the family member. We have a spectrum from my grandmother being the extreme (a vaishnu vegetarian or something)… to us grand kids who even dabbled with beef when on foreign trips 🤫. But just to have a common dish and coz of ‘house rules’, no eggs/meat/yeast etc in our kitchen. There are a lot of Jains in my city though… maybe the dietary culture became intermixed?
@@isaiahbaker4910 True! I think we got tomatoes in 16th century through Portuguese colonisers too.
Pizza in India is a snack, NOT a meal, so it has to be quick. Hence, this quick pizza.
really? interesting how different cultures approach food!
@@vincenzosplate For adults it can 💯be a meal but for kids it's a snack. You see, Pizza in India first came through America (at least in popularised form) & not Italy, and we all know how unhealthy American pizzas are (authentic Italian style pizza in India are expensive), so we avoid giving pizzas to kids as a meal, for them it's definitely a snack, and the Pizza Chef Ranveer made is exactly meant to be served to kids who get hungry for snacks in the evening & you definitely want something which gets done easily & fast.
Indian fast food consumers love to dump a lot of tomato ketchup in burgers, on pizzas, on pastas. So what Chef Ranveer said is "We like things to be ketchupy"
And the tomatoes we get are generally more tart than the San Marzano that I've tasted. A different kind of tart i.e.
Oh! In India - mostly Pizza/Burger etc. are seen as fast food rather than gourmet (unless where people tend to visit some great pizzerias with seating). Mostly such food are taken to-go or eaten in common famous chains. Now, these days also started charging for ketchup (nothing complimentary)
Yep, but I donno about ketchup on pizza. Maybe on dominos and pizza hut but on premium pizzerias, never seen a bottle of ketchup for pizza
@@Chaos_152It's Subjective but I don't like putting ketchups on after a 🍕 is done!
As an Indian, who learned to cook the Italian way from this channel, I can say its next to impossible to find San Marzano tomatoes here. The closest alternative is something called 'Hybrid Tomatoes' which are oblong shaped and neutral in taste -- So neither tangy like Indian tomatoes nor sweet like San Marzano. I buy few kilos, boil them, peel them and store the puree in fridge. Stays good for 2 months in cold.
Hybrid tomatoes are the worst !
Thanks for sharing! Stay tuned for more cooking tips and delicious Italian recipes!
Yes but its about accessibility
@@Thatonlyone678hybrid tomatoes have good amount of flesh. Otherwise desi/local tomatoes have lot of water and can only be used to make sambar and curry tangy.
Sounds like an opportunity to grow quality tomatoes in India
All Mediterranean ingredients in India are very very expensive. So we need to innovate. Even canned tomatoes are expensive 😊
Sorry to hear. Which ingredients used in Italian cuisine can you find?
We can find good quality Pasta, olive oil and sometimes good quality cheese. We have to improvise with our native ingredients. On one occasion, I found good quality cherry tomatoes and could feel the difference instantly.
We can find good quality Pasta, olive oil and sometimes good quality cheese. We have to improvise with our native ingredients. On one occasion, I found good quality cherry tomatoes and could feel the difference instantly.
Easily available? Next to nothing. Except Flour maybe. Italian cheeses are also expensive. San Marzano tomatoes next to impossible to find. Fresh herbs are only available in select areas. So most Indian people adapt. There are also a lot of lacto vegetarians in India (which means they consume dairy products but not meat and eggs) so they prefer toppings like Bell peppers, onions, sometimes even mushrooms or olives. There are Indian versions of pizza with Tandoori paneer or chicken with an Indian style tandoori sauce but that's a different thing in itself. Most Indians also don't have ovens at home so they use gas stove and pan for cooking. As for restaurants, only high end restaurants or bougie cafes have a pizza oven @@vincenzosplate
About yeast it's very uncommon ingredient in Indian kitchen you can find it but it's not widely used
10 :19 Indian don't prefer canned food they are not considered fresh here
About sugar and vinegar may be because Indian tomato are not sweet they are somewhat sour acidic I don't know how Italian tomato taste is like 😅
Canned peeled tomatoes are the best choiche. Period. You cannot cook a "sauce" for the pizza, it is wrong on so many levels... just use raw tomato. 😂😂😂
Italian tomatoes are sweet and delicious 😅
@@tizioincognito5731 well we Indians don't think same about the canned stuff because here it it considers not fresh and unhealthy 😅 I see about Italian tomatos plus what Ranveer used is basically something any local Indian would do to make pizza because our knowledge is less about it
@@tizioincognito5731 There was a comment on another video on Indian cuisine on James' channel mentioning they use raw tomatoes because they don't really can the best stuff, if at all, in India. So it makes sense they stay away from canned food. Whereas in Western countries, the cream of the crop tends to get canned first.
@@shivangichatterjee7308 yeah, i see but canned tomatoes are "fresh" and surely healthy dont worry. You can easily make them at home and store them for the winter simply boiling and peeling fresh tomatoes, putting them in jars (sterilized) and boiling the whole jar at the end.
@@XBluDiamondX buy a tomato, boil and peel it and thats it... 🤣
Just a Reminder - Although Chef Ranveer hardly makes videos about Italian cuisine, and when he does, they are often more Indianized versions, his specialty is actually in Italian cuisine.
He is an expert in Italian cuisine, having been trained by Antonio Carluccio for five years, who is known as the Godfather of Italian food. Remember, he was talking about how he "spent four years just making pizza" in the video - that's what he was referring to. Additionally, his longtime subscribers are already aware of this, as he used to mention in his earlier videos that he was trained by the great Antonio Carluccio.
However, since nearly 60% of people in India do not own an oven, he has adapted his cooking style to suit Indian requirements and preferences.
Moreover, you should read the caption. It is for the layman who want to enjoy Pizza quickly in home while considering the constraints of Indian household...
I like this... The fact he shows respect to the origins of pizza and explains this is an Indian version of no oven pizza goes a long way. I was honestly expecting a butter chicken version of pizza (which also sounds great) but I was pleasantly surprised at how good that looks. It looks like a delicious Indian/Italian fusion pizza... I would eat this over any Jamie Oliver creation video I've ever seen.
we do have chicken tikka pizza in indian dominos, pizza hut but butter chicken burger is McD item.
For context an oven is a luxury, san marzano tomatoes are pretty much impossible to find, buffalo mozzarela is way too expensive and since there is no oven it'll make the base soggy anyway due to the high moisture content.
Thanks for sharing this background information, now I understand the chef's choices better!
People need to understand that Chef Ranveer here is making this recipe for Indian Housewifes. It is catered to what they can find easy and convenient to make a quick snack for their children on a lazy afternoon. And as for the ingredients, again it is according to stuff they can easily find already present in an indian home kitchen.
just a correction, not just housewifes, but husbands and in general for all men and women who are busy with their work and want to make something quick and simple.
@@shreyasichatterjee6657Nope Particularly housewives I guess
The toppings he made for the pizza are exactly what I would put on my pizza, too.
How do you like to prepare your pizza dough?
even cauliflower is different in India, the Califlower in europe is indigestable and needs to be boiled and are large in size, but the ones in India are small sweetish and digestable with minimum cooking.
Now you've made me curious to give them a try!
@@vincenzosplate I've spent 25 years in the US, and most of my life in India, and I can tell you that almost every basic ingredient tastes different. You have to factor that in and adjust the recipes for the way the local ingredients taste.
Would be awesome to have colab with Chef Ranveer and two of you. Well done as usual!
That would make an awesome experience! Who knows, maybe in the future we have that collab!
Adding sugar & vinegar is dependant on the type of tomatoes you get where ever you are. It's to compensate for tomatoes that aren't as sweet/acidic.
Thanks for sharing your experience, I may give this technique a try out of curiosity!
Also in India we still have to acquire the taste of naturally sweet tomatoes as probably available in Italy or elsewhere.. we usually sweeten most tomato bases ... which also balances the acidity of the tomatoes...
On another note Chef Ranveer is like a very respected chef in India because of his deep respect and knowledge for the origin, texture and cooking characteristics of ingredients and the history of food in general..
Thank you for sharing this information me! I helps understand the chef's recipe better!
In Czechia, as our tomatoes are sometimes not as flavourful as in mediterran, we also use sugar and vinegar optionally if the adjustment is desirable. The supermarket tomatoes in particular tend to be quite bland (depending on their origin). Homegrown tomatoes with enough sunlight usually need no adjusment.
Homegrown tomatoes with plenty of sunlight are always the best!!!
@@vincenzosplate I am really sad that tomatillo (Physalis ixocarpa) did not gain the popularity in Europe as the tomatoes did. I'm sure italian variety would be great.
Oh yes please! More Ranveer! This guy own multiple restaurant and very popular loved chef in India. I first saw his Butter Chicken recipe and I even tried it myself- It was AMAZING!
Should we check out his butter chicken recipe next?
@@vincenzosplate Oh yes please it's absolutely amazing!
@@vincenzosplate Try his Dhaba style butter chicken.
R Brar is master in cooking. I love all his technics of cooking. Great chef
@@meghnasingh1774 I couldn't agree more. After this one video I saw many and fell in love when it comes to his cooking.
lol I'm kinda shocked Vincenzo knows about our frozen Dr. Oetker Ristorante pizza 😂
It's common brand even in Europe
@@yathishb7954 was not aware of that. I thought it was only known in german speaking countries at most
Actually, I'm from the hometown of the original Dr. Oetker and I was told that Italians for sure also buy this brand. However, they prefer the "Margherita" ones over the other ones by an extensive margin, since they like to pimp it with their own ingridients and just use this as a simple and quick base.
@@TheSchomberger Bielefeld existiert nicht
@@countbasie20 Very common all over Europe.
Adding the sugar and vinegar is necessary cos indian tomatoes arent that sweet and acidic as san marzano. And as he said this recipe is for those people who doesn't have an oven ( the average indian household) who doesnt use ingredients like yeast . Its common in other parts but in india. Yeast,canned tomatoes,ovens arent a thing. But baking soda is fairly common. Thats why ig he went with that.
I'm from the western part of India. And we have people here, who follow Jainism strictly. They don't eat yeast. Everyone else eats it.
Another fact from India. You won't believe the number of people who put ketchup on their pizza before eating 😂.
People here don't cultivate their palate, they just change the dish to suit their taste. This recipe is kind of that. Ranveer is a wonderful chef, but for this recipe, Haiya.
Always a delight to watch your collabs ❤❤❤
Man i had no idea that India has a ketchup craze 😂
@@mezz9159 😂
@@mezz9159 I went to buy bottled or canned tomato paste in Mumbai super market. Only thing I found is 5 different flavors of ketchups. Only way was to buy tomatoes, blanch peel and make your own tomato paste.
Huh? Didn’t know Jains didn’t eat yeast. This is new to me. I remember my Jain friends eating Jain sandwiches where potatoes were replaced with plantains but the bread was the same. Wibs factory bread which most sandwich makers used to use was prepared with yeast and was a listed ingredient too.
@@babuyadav2336 not all, but some who are staunch followers. Most of the new generation eats it. Yeast is the core ingredient of bread.
Jamie puts mango chutney in butter chicken chef ranveer has managed to make sweet dish out of garlic in MasterChef (he is the judge)don't take him lightly he is almost gordon ramsay level chef he posts thing on youtube for our regular Indian homecooks his professional craft is waaaay to different than this
I'd like to see a sweet garlic dish... That sounds good
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Chef Ranveer is amazing, but he pretty much specialises in generic North Indian cuisine. This includes Indo Chinese ofc. He's my favorite chef but he's not at the level of Ramsay in success. Skill is not comparable though. They specialize in different things. Ranveer is a lot more creative as an Indian but Ramsay has more refined techniques as a chef with Michelin stars.
@@foodsafari-rj3uq ya okay i went overboard there i was ticked off when i heard his name and jamie oliver name in singular sentence his not gordon leval but he is close
Between the cauliflower deep dish that you guys reacted to on James’ channel and this pizza, I would prefer this pizza.
Same here my friend!
In India , cherry tomatoes are not common. Recently they were introduced to the supermarkets in big cities but they are super super expensive. Chef Ranveer is my favourite. Anything and everything he cooks is awesome. You can comment that something he added is not correct but I would say how many of the internationally claimed Chefs know Indian cuisine or as a matter of fact other cuisine. We love Chef Ranveer a lot and wouldn't like to trade with anyone else. Sorry about it. Yes, just Italian way of pizza would be too difficult to sell so later all these Pizza houses thought of Indianising the pizza. So when you visit India, you would get choices which you have never heard of. Another example- chinese food. We indianised Chinese food too. Thanks a lot Vincenzo for liking the video and no harsh comments :)
Recently had visited my relative in North Karnataka. In his grape farms these cherry tomatoes were growing in wild. I was really shocked to see no respect for these tomatoes, the workers their use these for curries for free...😅
Please go easy on us Indians; pizza is a relatively new thing to us, and many of us have never even seen one in person.🥰🥰
I think largest consumers of pizza would be Indians and I am not joking lol....the amount of global pizza chains we have here in India is insane so I think it's safe to say we indians have made pizza our own thing now
wdym, new thing sure.....but never seen one is such a stretch
I think this comment is quite inaccurate (at least for cities and people of my age group). It is probably more common to find Pizza restaurants than Indian food in the restaurants (which can become quite annoying).
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i really like that a point was made about respecting the local ingredients. in many parts of the world, san marzano tomatoes are expensive or simply not found, so one must work with what is available and what is a region's specialty. will it be authentic? probably not. will it taste good? probably yes
Yeah I think that when judging somebody's else recipe we should always take into consideration the ingredients that are available to him!
I'm a Pakistani but I enjoy Ranveer's videos. The vegetables, flours, food preferences, everything is different in South Asia from the West so what he did with that pizza is exactly what's popular in this part of the world.
29:02 Trading Ranveer for Jamie? Oh HELL NO. I am fine with trading Ranveer for Gordon for example. But Jamie?? Considering the way Jamie destroyed our beloved Biryani, that trade is something we cannot tolerate at all. Sorry James.
19:35 - 20:10, James is right that Naples used to be a Greek colony (in fact, “Napoli” is a corrupt form of the greek “Neapolis” = New City). But the region was inhabited long before that, and flatbreads are so common all around the Mediterranean since prehistoric times that I don’t think Greece can be credited for introducing them to Italy.
The sugar and vinegar is for making the tomatoes taste better, idk about Italy, but Indian tomatoes can be less sweet and less sour, basically less flavourful
That makes sense! Have you already tried to do it?
@@vincenzosplate not for making pizza, but in our Bengali cuisine we have various "toks" and chutneys with different fruits and while making the tomato ones, we always have to add some tamarind and jaggery/sugar to bring out the flavours
Coming from a background that combines: Andalucia, Eastern European Jewish culture, and the wonderful mess that is New York and Brooklyn: in our house, we use olive oil almost exclusively. We don't fry at home, though: we mostly saute.
Much better than a frozen pizza.
Well that's for sure! But is it better than a traditional pizza?
No ,it is not better than traditional pizza,that is obvious but why do you ask that? @@vincenzosplate
James is right when he said that a long time ago, Naples used to be Greek. In fact, it was them who built the city. The name comes from 'Neapolis' meaning 'new city' in Greek
Isn't history fascinating?
I am Greek but my paternal grandmother was Italian. To be honest, I'm not sure if pizza comes from Greece, since breads, flatbreads and pies are kind of universal. What did come from Greece to Italy though were Greeks themselves, since they traveled there and created many colonies and built many cities since ancient times. Even today there are cities in southern Italy where some people still speak a special dialect of Greek.
The tomatoes in India aren't sweet and doesn't have acidic tinge as well, basically they are just watery with sourness, can't compare it to italian tomatoes and that's the reason Chef ranveer added little vinegar and sugar. Hey Vincenzo add a shoutout to follow our lovely Chef Ranveer as well, He is a nice guy.
I wonder why can't you grow normal tomatoes in India? The weather in India is perfect for tomatoes, - it's sunny and warm all year basically.
@@cikuuzis Probably because of yield, profit margins and I'm no farmer but idk if Italian tomatoes would survive the weather here
@@cikuuzis They grow but desi tomato is Rs 50 per Kg while San marzano tomatoes may go 150 to 500 or 600 even. ( imported canned one). Do you know average income per capita in India? You may as well be French queen telling people to eat cake if there is no bread.
29:00 No way I'd prefer that swap, Jamie puts mango chutney inside tandoori chicken!!
I started watching it and I have to say right away that you did a great professional analysis, davvero bravi 👏
A big correction as an Indian: majority of people in India don't know the term 'Vegan'. Non-vegeterians are still the majority but I think vegetarians are what your meant to say Chef James'.
I believe he's thinking of the people who follow Jainism and the like. All Jains are lacto-vegetarians as a religious principle, but some have started to go farther into full veganism.
Thanks for sharing this information!
@@alzaelnext638 He eats chicken and mutton. He isn't a jain or a vegetarian
@@dominicj7977 What are you talking about? No one said anyone was a Jain or a vegetarian. We were talking about James' comment that some people in India don't even eat yeast due to veganism. No one was talking about a "he".
I know it's a youtube comment section, but you don't actually have to be stupid, you know? You can just choose to not be stupid.
At about 11:20 I think chef Ranveer says he is adding sugar to make it "more ketchupy" because that's the way they like it..
i think the Romans used to make focaccia, a pizza with no toppings except olive oil and salt.
not sure if you are aware - but focaccia is still a thing.
@@Nossieuk What thing?
@@domenicozagari2443he means that it’s still popular
@@dd_a_v_ee Yes very popular, when i used to go to school i used to buy one for morning tea.
@@domenicozagari2443 You said "Romans used to make focaccia", and "used" is past tense, so your sentence might mean that they did so in the past, but they stopped, which is obviously wrong since people still eat it, which is why they got confused.
Indian tomatoes are fresh, sweet and mostly organic, the peel is also quite thin. So its okay to use them even directly. Our vegetables are a lot more fresh and varied.
Just a correction: Pepppers or Chillies are not native to India. They were brought by Portuguese from South America.
Thanks for the correction!
As indian, iur yeast quality is pretty bad u can find good quality but is pretty rare, have to order online( we dont prefer to amazon food stuff), n expensive else common available dry/unstant yeast gave a bad smell n a aftertaste n us very weak
So he used powder soda combination with curd to give a kind if instant fernentation to dough so it would be a bit bready feel
This is meant for general indian public to make a decent pizza as this was released during quarantine n was very helpful
Again in india canned food is not preferred in small towns n city, n fresh cheap tomatoes are readily available in fact it's cheaper healthier to use raw tomato
Thank you for providing this background information, now I understand the chef's choice better!
Quick tip: Most bakeries in India are provided with fresh yeast. If you have a good relationship with a bakery that’s not a chain, you can request to buy the fresh yeast/khameer from them for a few rupees.
You guys! I’m so, so proud of you both! This was another exciting collab and I look forward to the next one!
Thank you so much for all the love and support my friend!
We get more good lessons from 1 minute of Chef Ranveer's videos than we do from most of Jamie Oliver's videos combined.
Jamie used to be good, but sadly now he has become very commercial!
I think the vinegar and the sugar, although not "authentic" is to make the flavour of the local tomatoes to the san marzano. I grew up in Sri Lanka and our local tomatoes are different to what is imported from Italy.
Yeah I think that the chef was trying to give some flavour to his tomatoes since they weren't high quality!
He's a little bit off on his origin story of pizza, based on what I remember; the earliest thing that'd be recognizable to us as pizza was a Neapolitan street food eaten by the poorer classes that was basically just cheese melted on a focaccia-style bread (which goes all the way back to Roman times, and we know that Romans were cooking flatbread with toppings two thousand years ago). It would keep you going, because it's carbs, protein, and fat, and it wasn't inspired by adding tomatoes because it predates the European invasion of the Americas by a significant margin.
In fact, the word "pizza" is first attested in 997 in Gaeta, and it spread pretty quickly all over central and southern Italy. And, yes, Greeks of antiquity also had topped flatbread dishes; they're even mentioned in The Odyssey.
I would pick ranverr dishes all the time rather than Jaime his creations are weird.. anyway I have learnt a thing or two from chef ranverr and Vincenzo
Indians do food differently because our pallete is different. Most Indians who've been to Italy are not really a fan of the pizza there because it's too bland for our palette. Plus you should understand pizza was introduced in India as domino's and pizza hut and pizza was an aspirational dish, so the standard was not very high to begin with. Also the pizza he made was like a replacement for the ready made pizza base we get at stores which people buy and make pizza at home. Also ranveer has worked in a pizzeria in the US for I think 4-5 years so he does know how to make one but he's making a home made easy version which even people who don't cook can try.
Also Indians indianize dishes suited to our palette.
We took Chinese food and made it chindiese.
Tibetan food, middle eastern food, American food, Korean food and everything has been indianised. If you serve authentic flavours most of us won't be able to stomach it, and obviously the quality if ingredients are so different. Indians do Italian food very wierd, there's even ketchup in pasta with white sauce.
A good pizza sauce is ridiculously simple. San marzano tomatoes, and a bit of sea salt. Good quality tomatoes will speak for themselves in the final result.
Chef Ranveer could have used a torch on the end to give his pizza more taste, more prettiness, more flavor and crispiness. Little olive oil on the end would have uplifted his creation too.
Naples was founded by Greeks around 800-BC it was called Neapolis, literally "new city".
In fact Greeks coloniesd many places all over the Mediteranean coasts, before the Romans did, in fact the Roman civilisation is somehow the daughter of ancient Greece.
They also founded Messina, Syracusa, Gallipoli, also in south France Nikaea (Nice), Massilia (Marseille) and a lot more up to Turkey, Ukraine, North Africa...
So it's no wonder Italian cuisine took a lot from the Greeks long ago.
in Australia, there's a bread known as damper, same as what he did for dough basically, it's so light and tasty, originally cooked on open fire in camp oven or deep frying pan
I haven't tried this one yet! Thanks for bringing it to my attention 😊
This is the Pizza for every Indian household where ingredients are available. Most of us watch your videos and try the authentic way but it is super difficult and expensive to get all the right ingredients.
I learn from all of you. I preferred 24 to 72 hrs fermented pizza, cheese made from fresh milk at home, local tomato 🍅, home grown basil and vegetable oil and butter glazed side crust. These are the ingredients I can get. Slowed cooked on a iron caste pan and wala delicious ❤
I don't think i will get bored of this collaboration anytime. Keep going both of you ❤👍🏻👏🏻
That's interesting that San Marzano tomatoes aren't everywhere and cheap in Italy. In the USA, there are multiple brands of them available at every grocery store. Of course, they are usually 3x the cost of your standard can of peeled tomatoes but, it's all I will use for pasta and pizza. Well worth the extra cost. Sometimes they go on sale and I'll pick up 10 cans or so because I use them so often.
8:45 - I'm from Bulgaria. Old people do that there as well, where they'll just sit on benches and talk for half the day while watching people :D
Hahah it's a thing!
Ranveer kind of reminds me of Max Miller, how cooks foods and explains its history around it most of the time.
hahah Yeah I can see that!
@@vincenzosplate you should react along with James the two videos that max had talked about pizza, from ancient times.
I'm a tramp (homeless guy) and have made multiple pizzas without an oven.
I find for best results two frying pans. The smaller one on the bottom, the larger one upturned over the top to allow in and trap, to some extent, the hot air over top.
I’d love to see you react to more Chef Ranveer! As several have mentioned, Indian tomatoes are more sour than ones you can get in Italy, so he needed sugar and vinegar to balance it out. San Marzano tomatoes or peeled tomatoes are very hard to get as well
Which of his recipes should we check out next?
@@vincenzosplate please check out his recent video: lunchbox spl cooker pasta! You’ve been showing recipes that can be done in 15 minutes, and Chef Ranveer accomplished this using a cooking method completely foreign to Italians! But it’s a method very commonly used among us Indians.
I am from India, I have tried a lot of items shown by chef Ranveer and they all come out to be awesome,
The tradition of a dressed up flat bread may come via Greece to Italy. Who knows. I believe the concept of flat bread came from the Middle East, North Africa, Africa. Remember that Moses (Moshe) freed his tribe from Egypt and while undertaking a trip trough the desert they baked unleavened bread called Matzot. That means that flat bread was already know by the Egyptians. Thus must the source of flat bread found before all of this. They baked the flat breads in the desert on hot stones. Hot due to the sun! Thinner the better, the faster it cooked. When having an oven generation after added toppings on the flat bread. Baking on stones is still done in North Africa.
- A dough with Sodium Bi Carbonate does not rise while resting. Simply because there is no alcohol formed by the yeast aka microcell culture. This rising agent only works when it is heated. That’s why bakers use it in cookie dough.
Keep in mind that you always have to let the dough rest. It has to do with the flexibleness of the gluten strings.
- Indian chef could just evaporated the water out of the sauce and add salt to it. May be some basil. That’s it.
Vincenzo and Chef James. Let's go!
The Dynamic Duo!!!
I'm so enjoying these collabs!!!
Glad you like them! Stay tuned for more!
10:15 - you don't get canned tomatoes in india. If you do happen to spot one, it will be hella expensive, as local grown tomatoes are much much cheaper
That's interesting! What about imported canned tomatoes?
@@vincenzosplate just checked the local grocery app here. A can of 280gm tomatoes (imported) = 6 kgs of fresh tomato
Agree with the Italian chef that marinara sauce should have some of that raw tomato taste. However most people in India wont be able to stand the taste of raw tomato paste and therefore the marinara sauce in Indian pizzas is rather well cooked. Same for pastas.
Thanks for agreeing with me on this one and for providing this background information!
A collab with all 3 of em cooking together would be great .. 😊
Maybe one Italian one indian and one ... Well spanish dish..
We might even add uncle roger and an asian dish... And why the hell not cowboy kent and one of his dishes..😊
Sponsors where are you ... Lets make it a series 😊
He is adding sugar and vinegar to give the marinara sauce a bit more taste similar to tomato ketchup/sauce. Indians love the taste of tomato ketchup/sauce.
When I make the marinara sauce, I don't add sugar or vinegar.
21:25 so he wasn't trying to make a vegan pizza (referencing the chef speculating about why he didn't use yeast).
Good point! So he could have used the yeast!
@@vincenzosplate Yeast is not a common product in Indian cooking/household, but most of them have baking soda/powder. Also this pizza is for quick snack type consumption which yeast can't provide, yeast requires will require much longer time.
3 chefs I love watching, thank you for the great reaction video.
Thank you for following along ❤
Chef Vincenzo and Chef James do an incredible job reacting to this recipe! Please do another collaboration again soon. Keep up the great work Chefs! Bellisimo! ❤
I’m half Indian and Half British
and my mum’s side are all French and Brits so all these years I’m craving for a good authentic pure pizza but sadly can’t make them cuz exact ingredients are expensive here
But one day will visit France just for pizza
I ordered 12 cans of Strianese San Marzano (from the pizza supply store 2 villages away from my parents place :D); in the stores I can only get Mutti San Marzano - these are fairly widely available, at least in my corner of Germany :D
Mutti San Marzano indeed is widely available, however I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t like the taste. I far prefer the organic whole tomatoes from the same brand.
Not only for the vegan sake. In general most of the indian home makers keep baking soda and baking powder in their kitchen list to make some instant foods like pakoda, bajji's etc. I think by considering this Mr. ranveer consodered those ingredients instead of yeast as a leavening agents. Appreciate your reactions cheffs. 🤙❤. A Food Professional from South India.
In india we dont have that much of baking culture...
Thats why Indian households doesn't consists Ovens in General and also we don't use canned food and Ingredient tastes are bit different too
Loving the collab with James, you two got a good vibe together 👍
I think that looks delicious, call it pizza or not. And I really enjoyed Chef James and Vincenzo's comparison to Italian techniques and English/Spanish practices. And cooking basil totally ruins it, I agree. Always add after cooking, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing your opinion about this video!
As other comments have mentioned, we do not get most of the ingredients
The refined flour we get is all purpose flour and it's extremely rare to see the pizza specific flour.
Same with cherry tomatoes, canned tomatoes etc.
We do get authentic Neapolitan pizzas but they're very costly for the normal person in India
Also the fact that he's doing this recipe to be a super quick pizza (30 mins which is what Domino's here gives pizza delivery in) means there's a lot of leeway he's taken here.
This style pizza isn't the best by any margins, but is famous as street food in a few cities
Also in India pizza was made popular by franchises like Pizza Hut and Dominos and then we adopted it, rather than the original method of cooking pizza from Italy which is a class better
Ranveer Brar is a fantastic chef and the Indian food on his channel can be cooked just as he has instructed without any tweaks. He is not some RUclipsr making videos. He knows his audience and he knows the ingredients, hence this recipe is meant for Indian kitchen and not an authentic pizza. There are very few Indians who have eaten Italian pizzas and have access to the ingredients. Indian flour for eg is great for making rotis, puris etc and not so much cakes and baked goods. Most Indians don’t even have an oven at home. Conversely rotis made in Europe just don’t taste right to us.
Absolutely lovely chefs from the internet
It is not whole wheat flour, it is an Indian version of all purpose flour called Maida which has very high gluten content.
I love when you two get together. It's like the heart and the brain having a conversation.
Aw that's such a sweet comment! Thank you for the support!
more collab pls. with Uncle Rogers reaction videos, so informative and interesting, waiting always for more upload from the three of you 👏🏻♥️
Stay tuned for more reaction videos to come my friend! Any particular video that you want us to react to?
I think adding the sugar and vinegar is because a lot of the times , the tomato we get where Chef Ranveer is from tastes like cardboard compared to San Marzano. so its to compensate flavours
Can’t wait to see your video for the cast iron pizza. I recently watched an older video from America’s Test Kitchen using cast iron and it looked amazing. I have a feeling yours will be very different though.
Naples was founded by the Greeks who called it Neapolis, which means New Town.
There is a vast difference between Italian pilate and Indian tomatos and also there are difference many things we don't get easily, He is not showing how the pizza should be made as i know he is very technical about things. He is making the video for all the people who wants to make pizza who don't have an oven and basic equipment needed so he is making it easy for all.
Nice to see a colaboration between you two :) I truely enjoy the content both of you release!
One of the best pizzerias I know is in India.
It is of course run by Italians and uses a wood fired pizza oven, but even so...
India also has Dominos - not that I've tried them.
Glad to hear that you've found an Italian owned place that makes delicious pizzas!
Cherry tomatoes and canned san marzano tomatoes are all easy to find in indian cities, and this guy lives in Mumbai so wouldnt be hard for him at all.
The flow of your conversation is so perfect. Really clear, informative, and easy to listen to. Well done, and your editor deserves a raise.
Happy to hear that you enjoyed this reaction collab! Stay tuned, more are coming 😄
You should try indo Italian Chinese pizza . It’s made with sezhwan sauce
Can you make a white pizza sauce? Or a good pesto sauce that does not use tomatoes? For people like me who suffer from GERDs and love pizza, but cannot eat it due to the forbidden ingredients.
You guys are a great team, Vincenzo is quick to point out the traditional Italian ways of cooking and James has great explanations of why things are being done in a different way. I'm looking forward to your Pizza in a Pan video, too, Vincenzo!