Asmongold Reacts to "Why Ninja's Career DIED" | by SunnyV2
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Asmongold finds out the shocking truth about the rise and fall of the most popular Fortnite player Ninja, a man synonymous with gaming.
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Why Ninja's Career Died (Fortnite)
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I love how the story is his career died but h'e actually just went from like Superstar to regular A-list top level streamer level
@@bobhanson1037 for real, IDK how you could say some ones career died when they still make money off of what they do, show know signs of regret for down sizing, and has the fucking balls to play FF11 for months. Most twitch streamers if they pulled a stunt like that would actually kill there career, but Ninja just goes back t play fortnite and gets 20k views like its nothing.
That's why I don't really like Sunny's stuff lol. He makes videos like these for people who just went from making $5mil a year to $4mil and labels the video as, "Why _____'s career died".
fr like my guy ninja happily averaging 10-20k viewers like how is that a bad situation at all lmfao
yea, -90% viewer is a shocking number, but he still got 10k viewer. its still a considerably large channel.
Its like you see Mark Zuckerburg donated 99% of his wealth to charity and think oh now he is poor ass. but no, his 1% is still billions of dollar and still is 99% richer than most of the people in the world.
@@javlin8506 probably because they are all little children? I wouldn’t want to to be a famous streamer if every single person watching is 8-10 years old
Bro i am trying to sleep stop uploading stuff
🤣! Dank
31:27 “bro I bet y’all hate this coz I keep pausing” ahahahahhahah that’s the only reason I watch Asmond, can’t go 10 seconds without interjecting hahahah!
@@poopoohead7427 he definitely plays both sides of the court.. 😂
how the hell does he upload 5 videos a day
Learn discipline and problem solved.
Video: Finishes 1 sentence
Asmon: Initiating 5 Minute Monologue-Protocol
Ninja marketed his content to 7-8 year olds...they turned 10 and his career died
Ninja got the money of a LIFETIME of streaming in the span of a few years. He speedrunned the game calles "life" and now he has the rest of hi youth to enjoy the extra content.
He is a supreme sucess
But tthe mental health damage is un reverseable.
@@Ironforge1337 Unreversable? Definitely Healable and while it might take time you can definitely recover from trauma
He only has $25 mil.....that's not really alot....
Va dim, you must be 12 and have no concept of money
imagine having all that money and still being a beta with that kind of girlfriend xD supreme my ass xD
If that’s what a dead career looks like I’ll take it every day of the week 😂 lots of weird hate in this video Sunny made.
seriously he seems weirdly salty
big true, making bad content doesn't make you a bad person, believe it or not but not everyone wants to make internet content for their entire life.
It's all in perspective
just bc he's got money from when he was relevant doesn't mean he's doing good now.
his career is clearly dying off, having bank doesn't change this fact.
nobody is salty, when you lose 90% of your entire platform, I'd say that's worth covering on a channel that seems to just cover this sort of downward spiral
@@TemmiePlays The video was not totally objective fact. When the creator uses words like "fake piece of shit" to describe Ninja, then viewers are reasonable to assume he has some personal angle/judgement, aka salty.
Ninja could cut all ties to the outside world and still live like a king for the rest of his life. Streaming for him went from a hobby to a job and back to a hobby in less than 2 years.
He will be back, they always run out of money
@@johnnyboygriffin5764true
Right, with the benefit of never having to worry about financial situations, unless of course like many he’s foolish with his blessings
@@johnnyboygriffin5764bro made like 20 mil off mixer he’s good
Didn’t yet get divorced? I bet that had to hurt his bank
I feel like ninja is actually quite professional and conscious about his influence on children. He honestly probably got a ton of money and burnt out and decided he didn't need to make content as much or work as hard. There's nothing wrong with him just enjoying his success. And I think if he really wanted to be relevant again he has the skills as a content creator to do it. Maybe not to the same success as the first time but he is a professional.
Weird that's it was salty. He made his money by capitalizing and leveraging the peak of the popularity of the game. He made millions and millions and now he can just do what he wants. He made his point and what he is now doesn't take away from what was. He knew where his window of opportunity was and ended. That was a good play. All popularity comes and goes.
For some reason sunnyv2 sounded personally upset af ninja towards the second half of the video lmao
ikr, he sounds like a little bitch lmao.
He probably was a fanboy and is salty that ninja changed
Its just how the video is made to be structured. Intensely harsh.
You are absolutely correct. Good thumbnails are so important. So many times I have clicked a video just because of liking the thumbnail. in fact, I have actually not watched a video because of the thumbnail before. As for Ninja, I think he is funny. I think what killed his channel is too many interviews and becoming too involved in popularity that he did not seem authentic anymore. He didn't practice on Fortnite and his gaming skills fell behind others. That is what I like about your channel, actually. You do what you want, play what you like, you share your opinions regardless of what others think, when you see something wrong you say something. Plus you are very knowledgeable about many different things. You know what youre talking about for sure. I still think 10k views is a lot to me and I'd love that many lol
His audience grew up.
maybe you need to grow up if you think fortnite is for kids because every single video game is for kids and targeted towards teenagers. Unless you consider teenagers as "adults"
@solidsnake21 lol if that was the case, why are their rated Mature and rated Adults Only games??
Idk why you're so butthurt. That's exactly what happened to him. The average Fortnite player was a 10-12 year old and they latched onto ninja, and when they had their fun they moved on, and alot of them have grown up and don't care for that appeal anymore. Alot of kids youtube channels have alot of views but low subscriptions because they just have fun in the moment and move on, they don't subscribe to stuff and focus on one thing for too long.
Bro got dumped by his kid audience. Simple.
@@itsreapernecrosis2215 yeah that makes sense. I misinterpreted his comment thinking he meant the game is just for kids, making a sarcastic joke.
@@solidsnake21exactly the ESRB Is nearly a suggestion and we all know it! So what if I was playing Resident Evil 2 when I was 8 years old, I made sure to tell Sherry her mother was sorry she was such a cunt and to suck it up buttercup.
“Everyone gets lucky sometimes, but people who work harder get lucky more often.” Quote of the year
Im paraphrasing here, but i still believe that Rich Campbell quote, "You need to work hard so you have the tools necessary when luck comes your way."
Nah. Loads work hard, it’s luck. But that’s fine, it’s winning the lotto.
The real quote is "Luck is just skill showing up for an unscheduled appointment"
It's crazy what he said about going all in and then quitting cold turkey because that's literally what peak performers such as professional athletes do; they cycle between maximum focus and maximum relaxation because this leads to stronger and more consistent states of flow.
I just never thought anyone would apply it to streaming of all things lol
People who work hard don't get lucky more often. They're just less likely to miss out on an opportunity. It's "Taking a chance" vs "Not taking a chance". Whether or not you actually get said chance is still down to luck. There are countless people that worked hard and still haven't made it. If there's a way to "get lucky more often", you're not talking about luck anymore. Luck is inherently out of one's control. That's why it's luck.
Skill based game streamers have a lifetime that is determined by the popularity of their game and their skill gap to the rest of the community.
Personality based variety streamers last longer because they can go from game to game and retain popularity without the pressure of maintaining top level gameplay.
And ninja wasn't even that good at fortnight. Hes literally only famous for getting drake on stream
i think this is why Tim is so popular. He is an average or a bit better player, but his personality is why so much people watch him.
@@phatymcdaddy nah, he was good. You're in denial if you don't think he was good. By the numbers, he was objectively very good.
Can't remember where it was from, but I recall Asmongold stating something similar, about how if you're only gimmick as a wow streamer was dishing out the biggest numbers, you're gonna have a harder time swapping to other categories/variety gaming, as opposed to someone whose built up a community based on their personality. The risks vs. rewards of going niche or broad.
You can start out drawing in viewers by your skill in the game, but with a likeable enough personality the viewers will follow you to other content. I don't see XQCOW playing very much Overwatch anymore.
I love that line asmon. “Everyone is lucky, but people who work harder get lucky more often”
Ninja experienced the Facebook effect: going up, up, up until you hit the ceiling and you bounce back down. It was impossible for Ninja to grow any more. Up until his peak he'd had a net gain in followers/viewers. When he finally ran out of people who could potentially be interested in his content, the amount of people who left stayed at the same level while the amount of people who joined stagnated, resulting in a net loss of followers/viewers.
27:59 I'm becoming so fond of Asmon's worldview. He has such a combative chat, yet he always maintains a relatively cool head while sticking to his guns. He made great points about Ninja here, and the toxic nature of an audience that wants what a celebrity has.
Ninja is not a celebrity...
He is a streamer...
Also, asmongold's chat is almost same toxic as xqc
@@blipblop1112 "just a streamer" doesn't get all the non-gaming world camera time that Ninja has. Do you even have a clue how many interviews and cameos he has done outside the gaming world? From what I've seen, nearly every streaming chat is highly toxic unless it's very highly modded.
@@blipblop1112 the difference is, he not toxic, that why he more relatable than qxc or xcq
As of relatively recently, I've noticed and come to admire Asmon's chastising his chat, if he catches them being too toxic or stepping over whatever line.
@@blipblop1112 ce·leb·ri·ty
noun
a famous person. by definition he is a celebrity. he is a well known figure both by gamers and non gamers all over the world. whether you like it or not, for good or bad.
Ninja is at a point now where hes already won and is enjoying his life. The people who said he fell off are crazy. You would have to be insane to expect 1 person to hold that much popularity indefinitely in this day and age.
Ninja cashing in on his popularity is the same as athletes doing commercials. Their shelf life is very finite so get that $$ while you can. Streamers won’t be relevant any longer than pro athletes
I believe authenticity does matter a lot more than you're thinking. The audience knows Doc is in character. Ninja (to me) always put himself out there as just himself and not a persona, so when you try to say some bs like "get back to roots" and it is obviously a lie the viewers notice and react.
normally SunnyV2's videos are unbiased, analytical videos of social media events For the most part but this video feels more like a personal attack against Ninja.
NINJA did be a dick to tons of people and such
Everyone needs to be honest. If they made five million dollars in a single month, would they continue to put the same amount of effort into their career as before or would they suddenly feel liberated to pursue a better work-life balance? I wouldn't say that Ninja's career "died." I think he took early partial retirement, and I can't blame him for it.
five mil a month? id exactly do that for one month
I know I would
@@rouk2621 That's before tax etc. Probably receive 2 mill tops. And depends on where you live, it's enough for 10 years living middle upper class with family and children.
@@yudistiraliem135 no shot. 10 years? Maybe if you spend stupidly.
Go buy a house for 500k. Buy a car, pay shit off. Zero chance you have less than a mill left after buying everything you need to basically not have expenses.
Budget yourself for fun and food over like 30 years or whatever and youre set for life.
If you can't make 2 million dollars set you up for life, you're the problem lol
@@Devilforce988 would 5 million put you in a position where you'd feel the need to make more?
1st and only video I've seen of Asmon's in its entirety and I'm glad I watched it. Great commentary.
Holy cow, I would kill to have a “dead career” like Ninja.
Man made dozens of millions, if he doesn't go on a stupid spending wreckfest he’ll have money to live comfortably for the rest of his life and have his heirs fighting over it lol
If he's smart, or has someone older giving him some good advice, he'll take the majority of that money and invest it with a good firm, then live a comfortable life off of the earnings. Any additional money that he makes from doing whatever he wants would be irrelevant with millions invested properly.
@@Xoulrath_ exactly
"dead career" is absolutely correct.
Like... yeah... his youtube viewership dropped by 97%.
It is still 4-5 million views. Thats a "dead career" i could ABSOLUTELY live with
@@Xoulrath_ Bro, you learn to manage your own money or you end up losing it to someone else.
Dont let a firm lose your money..you can do that all on your own ;)
Their job is to make money...not make you money
@@InzideEntertainment Nah, I know there will always be someone who could manage more effectively than me. Rather just hire some jew to do it for me.
Did we all forget what kind of bag did he get switching from twitch to mixer? lol
He made more money then 99,9% of us together will make together lol
more like 99.999%
How much was it?
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 50 millions
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 Rumored to be 30-50 million which is double what he signed for because of Mixer shutting down before his contract ended and Should being around 20-30.
@@vuldren Pretty sure he got the total amount the moment Mixer shutdown.
This was a really good upload; I was always curious about his "downfall." I joined Twitch right when I started playing FN at launch to watch him play to learn from his playstyle (which could not be matched by myself kekw), not knowing that was his big boom. He was always entertaining though
1:25 Yep. Hitting massive numbers like that doesn't make loss seem impossible, it makes it inevitable. The public eye of sauron doesn't stay on a person, forever. It ALWAYS moves on, so your best move is to find the thing you truly want to do for the rest of your life, and use the short term fame and income to bring that to pass.
Its hard to deny his success. You may not like the guy, but he got to the top quickly and now can just relax all his life
I deny his success. See that was easy.
he was hand picked to be popular. Drake is an occult shill.
yeah lot of people just want bad to happen to him, these are the same type of people who were cried their hearts out when someone insulted them back in the good olf days and were too salty to just mute other people. pathetic bunch really
The dude got a 50 million dollar contract. No one in their right mind could call that a "failed career". The guy who made the "Why Ninja's Career DIED" vid comes across as angry and jealous tbh.
@@yololoyo7379 true
Yeah, the later half of the video especially. Narrator just came across bitter and negative.
What are you talking about?
Having prior success does not mean you're career is still active and alive.
Yes... he made a fuck ton of money but his career is effectively dead.
Weather or not someone is jealous of it doesn't diminish the fact that it's true.
You can have a billion dollars for all i care but if you're sitting on your ass and doing nothing for the rest of your life then you have a dead career.
Think sometimes... it's healthy.
@@yololoyo7379 Pewds still averages millions of views on every video.
That is not comparable.
It would be like comparing Ninja to xQc.
It's a dumb comparison.
Ninja does not pull in the same clout he used cause he's faded into irrelevancy.
It tends to happen when you jump platform multiple times.
Pull up his stream next time and tell me if he has even 10% of the viewers and subs he used to pull.
And sponsor payouts are linked HEAVILY to the amount of people you bring to check out their brand.
It's not like every clown gets a sponsor and suddenly makes millions lmao.
@@mahchestro9144 Ninja makes an estimated 700k a year from his twich stream. And look at his youtube channel: millions of views every month.
That isn't a dead career, man. He may not be as popular as he used to be, but is still working, and he is still forking in a big income . . . in addition to his 50 mil contract.
He is still getting richer and richer.
This guy was everywhere. Talk shows, guest appearances, I mean his face was all over Taki's bags.
He deserves for his career to end fully. Anyone remember that one time in Fortnite when he was bragging that he was the best and getting killed about 2 minutes later? He tried and succeeded to get that random player banned... For cheating. The random player released footage showing that he didn't cheat, and Ninja still said he did. The random player can play again. Ninja is quite a menace
Asmon is the first guy I watch that discusses life and particulars situations and morals so much, and mixed with gaming, that's super interesting to me and that's why I like listening to all your videos. I'm don't dig watching people play games as much, I prefer doing it myself, but listening to a gamer talk about important topics is somehow relatable content! Thank you! Thank you for often reminding people to stop hating on everyone and just enjoy the game (life, whatever they are doing), and for defending morality and the good that's still out there.
If you like that type of content, then you should def check out Destiny. He does exactly what you're talking about, but even more so than Asmon (not saying he's a *better* streamer than Asmon, its just the type of content that he engages in). There was actually a Destiny debate that Asmon hopped into to backup Destiny. It was probably a couple of years ago now but still fun to watch.
I feel the same way. I've never watched Asmond play a video game, but I love his videos. He seems like a good dude
I agree… I’m not much of a fan of asmon but this video is amazing… seems like a genuine dude and smart about these topics
And at the same he's no idealist and when he says that there will always be greedy selfish a***oles, he's not saying it to be a doomer or a d4ck but to dispel wishful thinking.
@@godursolamehahaxd9909 Just curious, how open-minded is Destiny when it comes to debating moderates/right-wing?
To your last point you made. Luck is 100% a huge factor in ninjas story. However the whole point of luck is to be able to position yourself in a place where the luck you get can propel you up. Many times people get lucky. But the change is insignificant because they aren’t in a place to allow the luck to make change
That's kinda exactly what he said, in different words.
Luck and a little help from the CIA
LuCk iS aBiGfAcToR
The last advice is life changing
If you trade the time you spend watching youtube. For time working on your dream. It will come true ;-)
@@ivannasha5556 Ironic
Him using the N-word occasionally probably didn’t help.
The nail in the coffin for Ninja was when he tried to get everyone to floss on New Years Eve.
I do love how he breaks down the thumbnail formula. It's actually surprising how many people don't understand the psychology behind it all
No.
“If you don’t consider the top 2 gamers, ninja is the top gamer.” -Knowledge
I agree about the thumbnail bit. Think of a thumbnail as like a cover to a book. If you go to a library or an E-book store what are the things that catch your attention? The covers. If all the books had no covers they would all look the same because it would just be rows and rows of text. In this case it would be just lists and lists of titles and one could say just read the titles. the problem is that most people are to lazy to read titles one by one. If you have a thumbnail that catches your eye you are going to be more enclined to read the title or click the video
Can I just say refraining from profanity when you know your audience is kids is a pretty decent thing to do.
You dropped so many great streaming nuggets in this video. It's like a 101 course on some of the most important things streamers need to focus on. Thanks for the great content!
Ninjas master class does it better
Agreed Dice, and many real life psychology truths. This piece was full of advice across the board. To think his age to mine he's experienced in life communications.
@@generalconsumer9520 you just said absolutely nothing yet so many words
@Yessuh thanks Confucius. Very enlightening. We are glad you graced us with your invaluable insight.
My replies can be condensed down and someone of basic intelligence would need to follow the original post and my reply for context. This would assist in detailing who I'm talking about, what, and why. I could detail it out but then it's more than people want to read. They should've done the work that landed them in this reply stream anyways.
The thing is if you're confused then ask a question. I'm not going to penalize you for that. To contribute nothing other than to say you feel someone is contributing nothing. If you're just a troll then get back under your bridge.
Asmond doesn't read these though he'd be the one to understand them. I seem to think his audience has an average IQ but then I forgot where I am so I will apologize for that. Friggin' YT is becoming the Twitter, these days, it seems.
Oh, that's what it is... You're upset Elon runs Twitter now so you've all flocked to RUclips. That explains a ton. Your post did have something meaningful and it was to inform us all Dem trolls are on YT now.
@@generalconsumer9520 i guarantee that dude didn't read ur reply and you know why? cuz i didn't either after reading the word salad you made with your first reply. if you can't explain something simply than you don't understand it well enough.
u remind me of that jimmy neutron "sodium chloride" video, go pull it up and your monitor will magically transform into a mirror for 1 min
Ninja - treats people like crap and promotes toxic behavior.
People - respond with criticism and hate for that
Asmongold - I felt sorry for ninja, all these people saying mean things about him
18:16 Literally from Rocky III at the begining. Then you got Clubber Lang running through the street in a 1 dollar sweat suit.
5 Million for one month? I knew why his career died. He beat the game, the game of life. He's done, thats why
Btw I never knew Ninja or any other fortnite streamer, but the hate he recieved by his audience and this Video is just funny.
He beat life? Huh
@@clay7182 he beat the rat race, as long as he doesn't blow all his money insanely fast, he is setup for life and will never have to work a day.
As far as the day to day grind goes - Ninja won.
@@Th3BadThing too bad, global economy will get reset by 2025 and all money will be erased.
honestly he was so fun to watch when he was playing halo
Most of us have known him since he was a snot-nosed little brat in the Halo scene.
I will admit, the talk about Ego is pretty thought provoking, because I don't realize when I'm doing it myself. I always wondered why I had a deep confliction on why I would become envious over big successful streamers or RUclipsrs; and I think Asmon hit it right on the head. It's hard for most viewers to relate, or even empathize with a lot of these successful content creators and their plight over "not making enough numbers", and I suppose it comes across as them just looking at their viewers/fans as just numbers to them, which makes us believe they have a big ego; and we want to knock down that ego because we believe "they wouldn't be anything without me/us/the fans".
It comes off like they're taking their community for granted, and that might not be the case, but it feels like that for us who aren't IN that kind of situation to worry about things like statistics and analytics. We really have no right to "Ego check" others, when in turn, our the only reason we're doing that is because of our own fragile and insecure Ego. It's difficult, because we can't help seeing others extremely successful than us, that cry and complain on how hard their lives are, especially over numbers, when they're raking in thousands and thousands of dollars every week/month. While most of us watching(15-30 year olds, like Asmon said) are barely making ends meet, with our dead end jobs, wishing and envying the lives of people who can just play their favorite games all day, all week, all month; and still make a profit.
I don't watching streamers either, but I think the viewers have as much a right to "ego check" others as streamers have the right to have a big ego. Couldn't it be that the only reason streamers don't like getting "ego checked" is because they are also insecure? I kind of agree with Asmon's point, but at the same time it feels like he's putting all of the blame on the viewers while defending any stupid behavior that a streamer might partake in.
You can tell when Ninja talks about switching games to gain a bigger audience this guy takes the meta seriously.
Gary Player summarized your ending very well "The harder I practise, the luckier I get".
One of the best Golfers, and South African too, was spot on with this.
Asmon is right about the disconnect between streamer and viewer when the streamer "upgrades" his life because they don't seem as relatable anymore as they used to be. Asmon is a very very very smart individual. He knew that probably a long time ago that's why he never "upgraded" his Asmongold persona. And probably because he really is a nonmaterialistic, chill dude.
just stumbled on your content. i knew you were a popular streamer. really good stuff. your insight is actually really solid. surprised you don't get offered a consulting job tbh
You'll probably understand better when you've watched longer.
He owns a streamer organization. He hires the consultants.
He’s a smart guy, owns his own organization
@Jay Bee no one does.
"Everyone gets lucky sometimes, but people that work harder get lucky more often"
Truly a statement only a succesful streamer could make
Its not wrong tho, I'm not a succesful streamer because I dont stream. If I started streaming I'd have a better chance and if I tried hard I'd have an even better chance. But of course someone might come in, stream for a week and blow up to the millions of views quickly. Ninja got lucky sure but he wouldnt have been famous in the first place if he hadnt streamed 15 hours a day, been funny and good at the game.
People who work hard put themselves in position to be lucky more than people who don't work hard. It's simply a fact, and it makes logical sense as well.
I think what sets streamer/pro gamers like Ninja apart from streamer/pro gamers like Faker is the interest of the audience.
The audience expect Faker to do some ungodly basically next to unachievable level stuff, so they're probably watching him just to watch him and not necessarily for him as a personality.
Ninja said himself, people filed into his stream because he was like Dr Disrespect. They were there for him as well as his gameplay. The more sponsors and business stuff he was doing, the more the gameplay level began to stagnate, and then as he began upgrading his setup beyond the means of the majority his viewers found it increasingly difficult to feel relatable to him.
The final nail in the coffin was when viewers realised that other streamers skill level was matching and eventually even surpassing Ninja's. By that point he had become very kid-friendly, was streaming from an extremely expensive computer office, was sponsored by all of these massive brands, and so on. There was really nothing remaining of the old Ninja that they had originally fallen in love with watching, so there was no longer anything keeping them there and it was just a matter of time before they moved on to another creator.
The difficulty of being most recognized with 1 game is that it's difficult to expand your brand beyond the lifespan of that game, and it's tricky to realise exactly when it's time to begin exploring other avenues or which avenues to go down. League has become increasingly popular over the years, that game has had quite a long lifespan and it looks like it'll keep going for at least a while longer. Fortnite, per the trajectory of other battle royale giants, was pre-destined to lose pretty much all of its hype after a few years.
But still, Ninja got in there, made a fortune and as long as he's wise about monetary investments will likely never have to worry about working another day in his life even if his socials were to be banned or abandoned tomorrow. He had the opportunity of a lifetime. I don't think there should be any regret even if he'd be considered as "fallen off" nowadays.
And by this I think it could also be safe to assume that the more high-tech streamers which put a lot of emphasis into the production value of their streams (CodeMiko, CohhCarnage, etc) might actually be much safer from facing the same sort of lack of relatability that Ninja eventually experienced because they already looked higher budget from the point that most people became aware of them, so viewers wouldn't feel too different about it if they suddenly began streaming from an expensive and flashy gaming room.
Ninja his career is not over. It has shifted. First of all, the streaming can only take you so far... and he took it way further than was possible. He was already earning millions after he signed a $30 million deal with Mixer. He, in the meantime, turned himself into a celebrity. Appearing on poker after dark.
Ninja made enough money to not work another day. He traveled the world, met celebrity's. And he has so many things he can do now then play video games. He literally made it doing what we love and I give him props
"I get up early... 8am" XD I chose the wrong career path. That's sleeping in in my world lol
I mean “career died” is such a weird phrase after the guy ran off with a bazillion dollars
'Pro gamer' has a window of success much akin to being a supermodel.
And you're a hero, Asmon. You put up with the most stupid bunch of people and useless comments on your streams, always being authentic and true to yourself
Soon, sunny2 is gonna make a video about asmongold retirement when he literally didn't decide to retired..
He's a hero? Don't you think you're being a little to liberal with that word?
@@patrickdenison6172 It's funny because your comment is exactly what was being referred to... useless. Thank you for providing such a great example for us.
@@CatNipSmoker XD hahahaha that comment made my day
@@geropino9480 Subscriptron buds! Sort of...
I love how people can just make random content and 'win' .. alot of these people genuinely enjoy what they do and people love watching
@@HDGaminTutorials I think the sitting in their own shit and piss is a you thing
@@HDGaminTutorials well if you can entertain people and perform in the game (lol) it's a solid form of entertainment. I wonder can you laugh and hold a certain level of appreciation for others without toxicity? And play games at a high level? If you can then by all means, do it!
@@HDGaminTutorials amazed at what? If you use your brain just a tiny bit, you will come to realize that the whole entertainment industry is exactly like that. You think a star actor is being overworked while on set or wat? They still get paid millions though. And you felt the need to point the finger at the few top streamers/youtubers, oddly specific.
@@kklap3219 people also fail to realize entertainment can have a huge mental toll on people even if it isn't physically demanding.
@@HDGaminTutorials sport exist 🤦🏻
You couldn't have said it any better, I watch your stream bc im looking for relatable shit, and Idk why but I feel like I can relate to you. Thanks for all the good content.
Yeah, for most people you cant get good if you don't put in at least 8 hours a day. I won 2nd place in eu in some niche jka mode and I played every day 10 hours a day.... The only exception I know is Stephano in SC2, he was a machine only two hours a day and still got results.
Cheers to everyone who ever played Jedi academy mb2:)
Good take and input Asmongold. SunnyV2 and too many people do not realise the different ways life can take you. Also important as Asmon said, always secure your bag. As long as your are making that money legally and not destroying lives along the way then don't mind the whining children and naysayers
SunnyV2 is a king. Asmond is a greasy haired bitch. You wouldn't know a bag if it hit you in the face.
Sunnyv2 was being salty
The thing is that people hold content creators to a different standard than they do conventional celebrities. There are plenty of extremely successful celebrities that also do sponsorships and commercials etc constantly, and not only does this not mean their careers are dying, but no one ever complains about it because it's almost expected, or at least not of any surprise, and because they're so successful, they're not seen as relatable. Whereas streamers are often doing the exact same thing the viewer is watching, I.E playing their favourite game, so there's a level of relatability there, and because the viewer can't be as successful as the content creator they start to hate on any success they have because they feel like they are entitled to it too as they're playing the game, or at least as big a fan of the game, just as much as the streamer is.
Bruh, the actual best response to people that say you are contradicting yourself is to say "two things can be true simultaneously." I don't know why people have a hard time with that.
He loved that kids watched his stream. I respect him for showing manners as an adult.
Cant catch streams due to work taking up my life in these hard times.
Thank you Asmongold or whoever uploads this, really helps me throughout my shifts.
lol work. For what. a Abusive Government who spends your money on more totalitarism and war? Congratulations youve been scammed
This video was like a life lesson, on how to look at things outside your perspective
I only know of this Ninja fellow from that New Years Eve event. Guaranteed Ninja is likely making twice to three times the amount of money per year than this SypherPK. He doesn't need to constantly do streams and upload content, and it doesn't matter if his popularity is down. Ninja has his money invested wisely and doesn't need to do shit if he doesn't want to, so it doesn't matter. Popularity typically dwindles over time unless you're doing something new and unique, and even then it's not guaranteed.
omg grimmm dealing with stream snipers was the best. He would drop at the school and he would mute his fucking game to not hear the horns and he STILL dominated that area.
this is a really great video for any content creator to just find tips on growth and sustainability
oh hi :)
Definitely! so keep pumping out those helpful raid vids sir! lol
Ninja became so popular that he became a true role model for very small kids and I appreciate that he made an attempt to show them there is a better way to act as an adult
There was an interview Ninja did, and he knew this was going to happen. He was just riding the wave.
Ninja got hated because you can't degrade your fan base. You can't treat others coming up in your job like he has done. None of the fan stuff is why he fell except how he treated and talked to them. On top of him having his angry drunk problem. He didn't mature before he got big. So he stunted his maturity.
I agree with him on pretty much everything except that bit about “why do you feel he needs an ego check? I think people that do that, need an ego check” thing. Chat made an actual valid point, that he just brushed off. If Ninja was flouting his money, bragging, and being a generally sucky person, people have every right to dislike or meme on him. If a coworker was an asswhole to you, then you’re probably not gonna been the nicest to them either (ignoring the idea overwhelming them with kindness, which doesn’t really work in this situation with a streaming personality). The point being, I don’t think you can really blame people for hating on someone who acts poorly, and I feel Asmon was sorta deflecting that point cause it’s something that could easily happen to anyone in streaming (even him).
So the fact that ninja expressed that he had a lot of money and enjoyed it, makes him a sucky person? This is exactly what Asmon means. Why do YOU care about that unless it makes you feel bad that somebody else has so much more than you. It's just very insecure behaviour.
Me personally, I stopped watching ninja because he lost his authenticity going pg13 and I also found it weak that he let the hate get to him so much.
@@ilikecommenting6849 ummm, didn’t expect a response like this on a 2 week old comment, but here we go. I never said he couldn’t be happy with his money, or even talk about some. That’s a stupid argument to take. I’m referring to him bragging about how much money he has continually, and the attitude that comes along with that. Markiplier legit just did an interview video, where he talked about how much money he has, and even made a point of saying (at length) it was insane the shear amount he had. But I’d assume that others (myself included ) don’t find him saying that as annoying, cause it wasn’t said in the context of bragging or with a stance of arrogance. More in the context of being grateful. And more over, where exactly does your stance end? Like if someone is doing something that generally is frowned upon (like bragging about how much money they make) then at what point do you say “I find this person annoying, and I don’t like them”. We can argue how much personal opinion changes where you’d stand on the subject, but the objective FACT is that a large amount of people felt this way, and they have every right to not like him for those reasons. You don’t have a supervisor “take” just cause you’re going off your own personal view of what’s annoying or what Asmo said in the vid. I could just as easily ask why do YOU felt like you needed to comment on something that was from to weeks ago? Wouldn’t it have been easier just to ignore it? Or did you just not like something I said and wanted to voice your dislike/disagreement with it?…like how people started to voice their dislike for Ninja, cause of the bragging. Not liking something and being insecure is not the same thing, and practically anyone could tell you that. I personally will likely never have anywhere near the amount of money he has, and I’m ok with that. That doesn’t mean I wanna hear about how much money he has over and over again. Cause that behavior is generally annoying. One last side thing of note, if you’re wanting to make point against someone’s stance on a subject, don’t try to underhandedly belittle them like implying they have a “very insecure mindset/behavior ”. Doing so only lessens your point cause you’ve already lowered yourself to throwing insults. If you’re ok with that aspect of Ninja’s behavior, that is 100% valid on your end. But the counter stance of others not liking that same behavior is just as valid. And unless you’re a psychologist and have interviewed every single person that says they get annoyed by Ninja’s behavior, I don’t think you really have the right to determine if people are acting out of insecurity.
@@jordanadams9098 I replied because I generally like commenting and having discourse (see my name). Back to the point. First, it's very important to note that I didn't call YOU insecure but the behaviour. The difference is very important.
Idk if most people don't like people who brag about money. Rappers do it all the time and it makes them money. But let's say most people don't like it. What exactly is bragging about money? Is it repeatedly stating how much you have? Or is it more? I personally don't care when people mention or flaunt their wealth. So I'm trying to understand, why does it bother YOU so much? Is it because most people around you frown upon it so you automatically do to? Or do you have your own reasons? Generally curious. On it's face, and I might be tone deaf here, I really don't see a reason to not like somebody because he 'brags' (which I dont know how you define as) about money. Would you not like someone if he bragged about candy?
@@ilikecommenting6849 …. Ok then I’ll ask why you like commenting on stuff and causing discourse (which the discourse thing is something else people generally frown on)? If you keep asking why about every aspect of what makes a person like or dislike something then you devolve the conversation into either philosophy or psychology. And I’m not getting into either for answer that is at the base level ,”well individuals have their own likes and dislikes”. On a lesser note, sorry but the implication of “insecurity” thing was pretty blatant. So you either worded it poorly initially or are now just arguing semantics. You can’t just point to someone wearing a red shirt and say “People who wear red clothes are weird ” and expect it not to be interpreted that way xP. Anyways, I don’t especially know what answer you want from me. If you do a google search on the word “bragging” you’d find pages and pages of the negative connotations associated with the behavior. Are you wanting me to somehow articulate an explanation of a concept that had been looked at negatively throughout human history (Legitimately am pretty sure there’s even ancient Greek stories on the subject)? Tbh, this conversation actually confuses me. It’s like trying to explain the color blue to someone that’s never seen it before. Simply put, most general people don’t like bragging. The level of tolerance of it varies from person to person so I can’t answer that for you. Also a point of note, you do realize people don’t have to like everyone right? If someone does something that legitimately annoys you (and their job is literally to be entertaining, so it puts more focus on it) then you don’t HAVE TO like them or watch their content. If you personally don’t see any issue with bragging, then ok, cool. But (and I feel like I’m repeating myself from the last reply) everyone else’s choice to not like that behavior is just as valid, since it’s all based on a person’s own feelings on the subject, not just yours. On the candy thing, ummm…. I guess? Idk. If I remember correctly, asmo touched on the concept of the value people put into stuff like money at different points in their life (which is sorta true but does also sorta belittle the value of happiness and other points in a person’s life). So yes, even with candy, the behavior of bragging is still annoying, but I feel like an individual would be more annoyed if they really liked candy.
@@jordanadams9098 discourse is just another word for debate or conversation. I don't think it's frowned upon. Maybe you mean discussion? Honestly, to answer your question, I read your comment and didn't understand why you would think like that. So I wanted to know and perhaps in the process understand that my way of thinking about it was flawed. That's the main reason I like talking to people with completely different views. The notion that two people can think that the other is completely wrong about a certain topic is very interesting. I don't much care if I end up being wrong. I care more for understanding. That being said, I don't think this debate is going anywhere but I very much appreciate your replies. Main reason being that there is just too much to unpack before we could return to the original topic. We'd be going down the rabbit hole so to speak. Thanks for your replies. Have a good one!
Ninja simply secured the MASSIVE bag, and was like “time to do what the hell I want!”
People hated his attitude and how twitch kept promoting him while they wanted to watch their favorite streamers.
Fortnite's popularity has gone way down. So, Ninja's popularity would parallel Fortnite's popularity. But, Ninja doesn't need the money unless he wasted it on drugs, hookers, or something stupid like that.
Also, another reason people started hating him was because he went corporate and started charging viewers to watch him stream. F that.
i love your content man, constant, authentic and solid, i also like your take on how streaming and content creation works
Asmon dropping some straight knowledge bombs for us new youtubers, good lookin' out fam
True, he has some very good knowledge and advice that's worth considering. All comes with experience, of course.
@@XDarkEcho absolutely
Totally agree with Asmon on the conclusion, Also love the last peices of wisdom at the end too. Quality Content.
He should just embrace that he's become the villain of genuine streamers.
25:10 I believe people started hating ninja because instead of focusing his stream on the people that mattered ( mainly people his age and up that actually played the game competitively) he focused more on the kid/ad side (clean) and tried to make it almost tv friendly.. but it just didn’t work the way it thought it would.
Um yeh sorry but the hell do you mean it didn’t work? He made tens of millions after changing himself for stream. He fell off with fortnite and kids growing out of it but he made an ungodly amount of money and is now back to his pre-fortnite persona
@@henryh95 Um yea where in my comment did I say he didn’t make money? Im talking about his fan base in general, not his income. Most of his money at the point I’m talking about and after came from his brand that he had established already. He was a household name at this point in the gaming world. My comment was directed to losing his viewers in general and the way people viewed him at this point.. I mean want a comparison I’ll give you one.. lil Wayne.. of course the man is still making millions a year.. but he lost a ton of his fan base there for a while and his music was considered garbage when he tried the whole rock shit…
Imo, most people hated on Ninja because deep down they were jealous about his success and/or didn't think he deserved it
25:53 He didnt deserve it, like asmon says, but people felt it was okay because it was/is viewed as punching up. He is wealthy and successful so its okay to pick on him right? That was the mindset the people use to justfy their actions to themselves.
someone who earned about 50 million dollars didnt fall, he just stopped being succesful, which is a BIG difference. 80% of you wont understand this anyway.
Asmongold I just wanna say I enjoy your videos and streams, you have a healthy mindset and I just appreciate the influence it has on me. I’m sure others feel the same. thank you for being you
remember when he was at the new years eve party and his soul left his body?
" I don't see any movement "
Regarding ego and bragging about your success etc. that's VERY different in the US than most places in Europe, especially northern Europe, where I live. In Scandinavia there is a thing called the law of Jante, which is a huge part of society. It is a code of conduct originating in fiction and now used colloquially to denote a social attitude of disapproval towards expressions of individuality and personal success. Created by the Danish-Norwegian author Aksel Sandemose, it has also come to represent the egalitarian nature of Scandinavian countries.
So here you can have a huge house, an expensive car, which is fine, as it's pretty common in a rich country, but you can't brag about it, even to your friends.
The problem is like Asmon said keeping up that high or level or money never goes away save for rainy day. Happens all the time Hollywood or music,athletes.
What happens I feel alot for media is they under estimate their views with fans...
I rather have less fans but who consistently come support,you don't just have to talk about wow,a game and depend on 1 thing. Asmon you have transitioned out of wow to talking about other games,life,your steaks,people get to know the persona not just a one trick pony. And will keep coming back similar to DrDisrespect.
While you see other COD streamers need to play it for views being human is part of it relatable.
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity. Ninja was lucky because he put in the work, took advantage of the Fortnite opportunity and continued to find opportunities.
I've met Tyler and he is one of the nicest humblest people I have ever met , he made sure to greet all his fans and is super patient with kids , deserves everything he earned and more
Because that paycheck required him to do so
It's called " be nice or be fired"
Obviously he's gonna be nice to his consumers. Stop taking everything at face value.
I played with him a few times in FFXI (Wings server) and he was always really nice. He just seems like a happy goober who likes minmaxxing so people are very uncharitable towards him because they’re jealous and jaded.
Anyone who’s interacted with Tyler knows he’s really cool. Ignore the nobodies.
@@ChaseFace As if you aren't a nobody lmfao
"John McCain Simulator". I about died irl!
His audience aged beyond his content. He didn't expect it.
Can honestly say I never watched or followed Ninja. Knew who he was, of course, a screamy streamer that played a game I had no interest in. Guess that puts me in small pool of people.
In that pool too buddy
Same.
What Asmongold said his correct. Ninja made a lot of money, he's financially super secure and thus can just chill and stream for fun and thinking about his family without stressing too much about viewership.
That said, there's also another point to consider. Nobody can be a popular content creator for 20 years by playing a SINGLE GAME. Either you are a variety streamer, or, if your success is strictly linked to a popular game, once the popularity of that game will wane off, so will your viewership.
Not only that, but mind that a lot of his viewership was very young. The problem with having your main audience being kids and teenagers is that they have a very short attention span, move on quickly on other stuff and eventually grow up and stop watching streams altogether.
There's nothing like becoming a fad for kids to get ultra uber popular in an explosive way, but you'll also get discarded and forgotten just as quickly.
Other Fortnite content creators may have seen less of a drop in viewership simply because they have a stronger bond with their audience, that is probably more hardcore and may have a higher average age. He became popular, at least partly, PRECISELY because he was a fad for kids. Kids were talking about him all the time, therefore OTHER KIDS had to watch him as well to avoid being left out of the loop in conversations. Once they moved on to talking about something else or simply aged, it's only natural that his viewership collapsed.
he can stream in front of 5 people for the rest of his life still doing what he loves and still being richer than any other gamer
People with money don’t complain about others with money. It’s the poors that complain and get upset
The poors 😂
“The poors” 🤣🤣 sounds like an out of touch douche
Some of those viewers grew up and realised that Ninja is big cringe lmao.
its because his viewers got older than the age of 13 and didn't want to watch anymore
Why couldn't he grab new viewers though? Surely Ninja must be doing something wrong or suboptimal...
Ideally it should be like the Pokemon anime or Sesame Street viewership. Kids age out of it, but new kids take their place all the time...
@@malcovich_games Ash Ketchum and Big Bird don't age so no he or anyone else isn't to keep pulling in the younger generation. He obviously needed to grow with his audience.
@@DoamBot You can be an old ass man and still cater to a younger audience. There's some children's shows out there (Sesame Street included) with older hosts.
@@malcovich_games Mr Rogers neighborhood for example, lol.
that dude was pretty old and commanded mad respect in the children's TV circuit , even still to this day.
@@malcovich_games those hosts aren't the puppets though a parent watching with their kids is going to recognize Elmo and get hit with nostalgia. There is a reason why ageless objects like animation or puppets are used for media that targets a younger audience. Also why those that don't will adapt and change with time to grow with their target audience. As for the likes of Mr Roger's he was established as older from the get go he does have Mr in his name after all and thus his character simple maintained.
If not this then how would a streamer who maintains a static persona not get new viewers with that level o coverage. Their is a reason why that stems from the modern push for the phrase boomer and younger audiences looking audiences looking a simular younger face.
Alot of people didn't watch ninja. Kids did. They love that screeching because they can relate to that type of personality.
growing up i have always been told that luck is when preparation meets opportunity