"You Will Own Nothing & Be Happy" | The Future Of Video Games
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- "You Will Own Nothing & Be Happy" | The Future Of Video Games
On today's episode of Gaming Off The Grid, we revisit the topic from our last video as we are seeing video games in physical form disappear from our local store shelves. The Digital age has arrived and is here to stay. How long will physical media be alive? Stay tuned
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My daughter used to ask me to "rent" movies off of the internet. The cost is usually $4-$5 for 24 hours. We have found almost all the movies she wants to watch at our local resale shop for about the same price. Buy used, buy physical.
Yeah might as well own it at the same price! Can watch anytime anywhere! Cheers!
That's the best way to go
I really wish games were the same. I wish old games could be reprinted as easily as music and movies. If people insist on physical, then they should get these publishers to rework their old games to work on PC and print them all to disks. That's the only way for physical games to be as accessible as other forms of media.
Yes
Movies make way more sense to own physical over modern gaming where you still need to install and update.
When I was a kid, my dad made me a wooden caddy that held about 15-20 NES games. I remember alphabetizing my games and admiring my collection and being so thankful for the games that I had. Opening up a fresh copy of Metroid Prime Remastered brings back that vibe in a way that digital downloads never will. I sincerely hope the next Nintendo console still plays physical media.
We hope so too But we have our doubts! We would be glad to be wrong! Cheers!
I hope the switch 2 doesn't play physical media, as it's only going to push up the price of games.
The next Nintendo console will most definitely still play physical media .
Physical doesn’t really feel like old physical though because of updates. My Wi-Fi was down and I couldn’t play my physical games even though they were downloaded, it still had to update to start. I only have 2 games physical and the rest digital I couldn’t care less about owning new physical games. That’s why I love retro gaming and prefer it over modern.
@@kang6914 makes sense. I would argue that even retro games don’t fully capture the magic of getting a new NES or Gameboy game unless you get CIB and I’ve been priced out of that market for a long time now.
Don't buy unfinished games. Buy physical only. Demand better. Use your power as a consumer. Force the change we need.
@SelfieCast huh?
Too late for that lol
@@redcrimson1028 Nope. It's never too late. If people don't buy, companies adapt. Only purchase games that are playable from the disc/cart.
I buy Japanese games and indies. They are usually playable from the media. It's AAA games that are usually unfinished garbage.
"Don't buy unfinished games"..... Aren't all the games we buy incomplete in some capacity anyways? Think about the GOTY business model, our games are missing like 50% of it's content in DLC form, so everyone who buys ANY game on release date, has to pay £20 on top for a season pass, to access the rest of their game content. I hate modern gaming so much, I'm completely happy not to go anywhere near this gen, no regrets. Games decrease in value over time nowadays anyways fairly quickly.
@@SelfieCastoesn't matter if it's cheaper. I won't buy at that price and wait for the price tag to fall. Most games depreciated very quickly after 1 year. Now, i just put it on the waiting list instead of buying at time when it hit store shelf.
I am a big advocate of Physical Media I want to team up with other passionate people who love Physical Media as well so we can improve it and make it last longer. Digital will not stop us at all!
I can promise you that i will never buy a digital game in my life. More than that i will not buy the game if it needs installment to play. Either publishers and developers will do as i want or they and their families will starve and i will not give them a penny even if they will cry. Publishers and developers forgot that they need gamers and not the other way around, i have tons of ways to spend my money even without their games.
@@iwatchDVDsonXbox360 Well said! Same goes for music, movies, TV shows, books... and I will never pay to stream anything, either. If I am paying money I want something physical that I can keep. Otherwise I'm not interested.
I want to join you!
I definitely want it to be a movement at least to show Companies we not now down to digital future! I don't know how to make Physical Media but I do want to become a storyteller and get into the Entertainment Industry which is what I'm passionate about and I want to tell Companies if you go full digital you will lose a huge number of customers this is why Physical Games,Movies,Books,and TV Shows need to still live in this day and age we just gotta figure out a way to make it last longer.
When I bought DVDs from Walmart, there was an option to have both physical/digital when Walmart owned VUDU.
Not just games, but buy physical 4k movies, buy music cds, take pride in ownership. Build a collection while you still can.
Agree! All physical media is in danger! Cheers!
Absolutely pointless. I can get all that stuff online free.
I have all my favorite movies on Blu Ray and DVD I like owning them plus streaming services change the catalogue from time to time so they don't always have what you want
@@KnucklesWTD Even e$3X
@@KnucklesWTD but it's never yours, you're just being allowed access to it. It can be removed and/or changed any time. They control it, don't you see what's happening...?
One of the reasons I look forward going to Target or Walmart is checking out the gaming section lol ever since I was a kid. Very disappointing this is happening.
Yeah they are killing the child in all of us older people! Cheers!
It is worth noting that part of that likely has to do with Amazon and other online stores. I'll often buy physical media that way, and that could also be contributing to department stores and even Gamestop losing sales on physical games, as that surely divides the already smaller physical market.
Same as me. My older brother and I love it. Now it’s just dead.
Yeah the elites are pushing us to the rent only model. It’s already proving to be problematic (not just an inconvenience like gaming) but people can’t afford rent, can’t afford leases, can’t even afford food. This problem is much bigger and it’s frustrating it even trickles into our hobbies too.
Yep they are putting it into every aspect of our lives! Cheers!
The UN/WEF wants us to be rent serfs.
Just look at what’s going on with the housing market.
Yep. Pay monthly for heated seats in your brand new BMW! Insanity.
They aren't pushing me to do anything. I don't get digital, and I only buy games that are playable from media. I own over 500 physical movies. Do like with Anheuser Busch: Boycott. Don't play along. It's astonishing to me that there are people who actually advocate for these companies and pay them just as much money to get permission to temporarily play something than to own it forever.
Digital>physical
I heard recently that kids and young teens today are basically becoming "in the moment" gamers. Always playing the latest and greatest following the hype. I think they might feel this way right now but at some point when they grow older they will want to revisit those childhood games. They'll want to relive those memories and experience the nostalgia. When that time eventually comes, I fear that the games they grew up on will either not be available any more, or it will be so different than how it was 10-20 years ago. While we grew up with Mario Kart, Halo 2, Smash Bros Melee, they are currently playing Fortnite, Minecraft and Roblox. Those games have and will change much more over time, to the point that they are no longer recognizable. There's a reason why World of Warcraft classic was such a big deal for many people. I fear that as time goes on it will be more and more difficult to go back and experience that nostalgia as games/ movies change over time or flat out gets wiped away from the internet due to no one being able to make copies for preservation. The gaming industry doesn't care about preserving the art, it's just a product to them. Only the biggest most beloved games will get those remasters, so they can resell you the same game every 5-10 years. The smaller games or more obscure ones will be left behind and eventually forgotten. Losing history in this way is a depressing thought.
Lots of great points! We think alot of kids well be so disappointed they cant revisit there youth like you said! Cheers!
Nail on head. Tik tok gen. Install, play then uninstall game on phone.
Repeat with streamed games.
I can't see cell phone games being preserved properly at all.
You mentioned wow classic, for me it was osrs lol
@@luigi55125 There are people trying to do preservation work on phone games but it's harder than normal games.
I don't know if all that is true
"You will own nothing and like it." Nope, NEVER! They'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. Resist as long as you can and never yield. The statement applies more than just games and physical media.
Hey we dont blame you! Stick to your values! Cheers!
maybe you, but younger generations are being raised differently. They will know nothing about that and accept what the elites want.
either way, i only play on PC.. and physical copies for pc games are out since a long time ago.
I also miss midnight releases that came with the xbox 360 era. The midnight release of halo 3 camped outside of GameStop with some friends was so much fun. Now you just pre download the game and wait for it to unlock :(
Dude that time was epic! Chatting with people, the pulse, vibe etc was total excitement. Cheers 🍻 to the memories
I think the best part of physical media is how tangible it is. You have artwork, you can hold it, you feel something when you pop your media in. It's a special feeling that the return of records help the public rediscover. Physical media collecting may be niche, but it will always be there for the person who wants MORE.
theres nothing quite like the feeling of pressing the disc release button in a dvd case, then popping it out and grabbing the disc with your fingers and thumb in one move.
or the snaps the case make when you put the disc back into the holder and then close the two clasps at the top and bottom.
@@HalozillaEX This thought process is the same feeling with Vinyls and physical electronics. Someday even electronics will be digitized and holographic, imagine that happening 50 years from now.
@@SuperFlashDriver That would be sad to see, but I'd be lying if I said the idea of interactable holographic menus wouldnt be cool AF.
@@HalozillaEX I mean, there has to be a balance between control and ownership. Otherwise, it's tyranny or anti-consumer at best. But while the future is cool, it's the control and power from centralized companies that's the issue.
That is mainly why i buy merch for it. A lot of the time, "official" merch is overpriced and not always the best quality, and a lot of people that are collectors see the most value in the official stuff. However, I go for good quality items in general that maybe hasn't been officially done before or really cool. Same with posters or artwork that the original artist did or something, but in a different size, like a game case I can use as a poster. It is nice to have that tangible feedback from when you associate games with certain pieces of hardware. Makes it feel like when you are taking care of that item, that you are taking care of a game that has given you satisfaction and you can't get that sort of sentimental feeling with digital games, just your memories or any merch you buy.
As long as people are LAZY, this trend will continue and never stop. Only a matter of time.
Rely too much on convenience and its unfortunate! Cheers!
This the problem
I’m strictly a physical game buyer. And I fully agree about the issues of buying digital. They even look amazing being able to display and show off all the games in your collection. Digital should be cheaper. They don’t have to produce packaging, inserts, the physical game or anything.
Yeah they should be! They arent so they can make more profits! Cheers!
Nintendo Eshop games online are 60usd and physical copies can be bought for 30-40usd. So physical copies are cheaper. Vote with your wallet and buy physical copies. You can resell them if you get bored of physicals.
i guess most of the people who buys physical if because are console gamers
I've seen this coming for awhile and have been stockpiling physical media of all sorts. The generation is coming where they will not even know what a physical copy of anything is.
They wont and thats sad to realize! Cheers!
Some teenagers don't even know what a cd player is. It was ok when they didn't know what a cassette tape was, but a frigging cd.
Some have literally never even seen a CD.
It's a sad world we live in..
I’m fine with that. Kids today don’t know what a dial tone phone is. They are doing just fine.
@@bubba842 The problem: Technology becomes too advanced and once all in ones comes into play, well, why would anyone need separate stuff when they can have it all in one device?? It sucks, but that's life. That's why if I had a million dollars, I'd definitely go back to the past one more time to experience the good old days of the internet and gaming as a whole, even if I already know what's coming ahead in the future that I went through before.
The future will have conveniency of the storage of digital goods but no true ownership.
Im kinda a hypocrite but while i game mainly on PC so i buy digital on steam, i love my physical collection for my consoles. The idea of being able to play a game even if the internet and power grid collapse as ling as i have a generator is such a good feeling. Truly preserved.
Not a hypocrite! You can enjoy both sides! Nothing wrong with that! Yeah those games are real life savers wheb internet is out! Cheers!
True.
You can enjoy videogames on all existing media...Tapes, Cartridges, CDs & Digital distributions but corporations will use these fundamental data transfer methods as a means to withhold the personal decision making authority by denigrating every technological endevour into a money/data gouging racket until they're made obsolete by the substandard corporate decisions these sociopathic clones willed over the pastimes they've aggressively infiltrated & monopolize with impunity. What's needed is a complete corporate slime flush out no inch or mile given of the entertainment circuit, specifically videogames in this case if we are to preserve our beloved videogame classics so we can enjoy em for a life time.
I bought a steamdeck and two microSD cards. I put most of my Steam RPGs on the SDs. Put steamdeck in airplane mode. Got 38 games installed on two MicroSDs. They don't need internet to work. I'm thinking of buying large external harddrives and installing all my Steam Games onto them. Ones that don't require internet to play which rules out all of Ubisoft games.
@@MuffHam Proud to never have bought a Ubi game after AssCreed Ezio trilogy
The best era of video games was when you used to go to your friends house and play it there together. Were never gonna have that again EVER again..
Yeah as a whole no! We create that as much as possible and are glad we have awesome friends that are always down to couch co op! Cheers!
That's how I spent a majority of the N64 era.
I miss the ps2 xbox and GameCube generation
Yeah, that was actually a great generation. I purchased all 3 consoles because all 3 consoles was unique in its own way and offered its own exclusives. Every console that Gen had a different feel and identity. Gamecube!!!!!!!!. The 360/ps3 Era was the last good generation of gaming though.
Best era
100%!!! It's the last true non-digital generation where games had to be bought physically. & If the game was broken they fixed it and printed revised versions. The best era!
Still playing with my ps2 lately which left my series x and ps5 both in the dust for months now.
That's literally the last great Gaming Generation...it's been all downhill since then.
This is why I stick to old school gaming. Now I'm aware that some of these units will stop working eventually, but I just want to spend my time cherishing the items that I have with me physically, rather than getting ripped off by greedy corporations that now demand an arm and a leg for a virtual license that will definitely have an expiry date rendering your digital purchases useless.
You can get them repaired at a Repair Shop
For sure! Those consoles were made alot better! Yeah digital is very risky! Cheers!
The day we go all digital is the day I go all retro. The back log just became a gift from God haha.
Completely agree with this statement and applies to us too! Cheers!
im already there, i barely play much modern cause of how woke stuff has come
We’re definitely in a transition Art time in gaming. I do buy some games digitally, but really buy physical when practical. Sadly I think it’s dying a slow death.
It definitely is and is hard to see the end of an era! Cheers!
Movies are doing bad too. You can only mostly buy from boutique dealers or distributors. Gruv movies are owned by universal. They distribute universal, and warner bros movies.
Don't give up so easily, man. Fight for physical media and support it!
@@derek-64 I know it's hard. I even want to get a portable blue player as well. Most 4ks come with blue rays. I've been buying CDs from distributors. Games are the hardest though. But I've mostly given up on video games. Ever since I watched blue rays hard to go back to DVDs. I do have an region free mobile player. For some out of country discs. The blue rays are more region free than DVDs. However. I think that's why greedy ones dont. Universal and warner still sell physicals
I think there's nothing wrong with buying games digitally, if you're buying it free from DRM from sites like GOG.
I’m just hoping that one day physical media becomes popular again. Like owning everything digital gets boring and old and the younger generation will be amazed at something new like a physical copy of a game
Then we need to support it and show these companies we still want it!
It needs to explode in popularity we really need that because look how popular Vinyls have become heck I have some.
We think theres a good chance it will! That or retro stuff could see an explosion because physical collectors will have to get there hands on physical media somehow! Cheers!
@SelfieCast *90%
Welcome to the world of instant gratification. Not enough people appreciate the way things were.
They really dont! How things have changed over the years! Cheers!
because those people didn't live that Era..
I agree, physical games are great. I like being able to lend my games to friends, sell them if I no longer want them, and it's just a great way to collect (and show off) games. I love being able to look at my shelf of games, appreciate the artwork, and not rely on an internet connection to access/play my collection
Its such an amazing feeling! We walk into our gameroom and most the time just admire the collection also! Cheers!
I've been slowly regaining my physical media over the years. Mostly dvds, but getting NES games and cassette tapes.
Nice man! NES games are great to collect right now! Bet your picking out some bangers! Cheers!
This is why it is important to support the Evercade, a retro colector's friend of physical media!
Yes sir it is! We support it! Cheers!
Why does nobody bring up the fact that a box with a bluray disc and the game on it costs as much as a digital download? How can Horizon forbidden wrst on PS4 with 2 Discs cost less than the Pst digital version even if you can upgrade it to that exact same ps5 version for free? Its an obvious agenda that doesnt make logical sense and harms the buyers.
That is a pretty good idea.
I own an EXP! It's not perfect, but I do appreciate its commitment to physical media.
Evercade has so tiny screen and portable one has build quality issues. Make premium quality with XXL screen Evercade.
I was one of the 30% that commented that I haven't seen empty shelves in my area. That is true but what I have noticed is the stores that do carry physical games have alotted slightly smaller areas for them. Not all stores but a few have maybe 25-30% smaller shelf space for games. Also I don't ever see amiibos in the wild other than at gamestop. Used to see them everywhere a couple years back.
Yeah we dont know much about the amibos! You are probably right about the stores struggling and the ones that arent! Cheers!
The 7th generation changed a lot of people with physical games it was cool to see patches and updates at that time but long term it became the standard. I started to notice less on the disc and then manuals were slowly taken away as that generation continued it’s a shame.
That's why the 2000s was the last great decade where everything was physical and still had great games. But once the 2010s kicked in, well, it was only a matter of time before everything became digitized and no more ownership. For me, as long as I can get the files for offline use, I'm fine with digital. And yes, if I love it that much I'd buy it physical, I just don't know where to store it since our cabinets are full of old VHS DVD collections just sitting there collecting dust and decaying.
At beginning a patch/update was to do a great game even better like left for dead now its standard to shit unfinished games out for fullprice and patching them for 2 years like battlefield 2042/ Mass effect andromeda or Anthem (and then let them die because some greedy investors just want the money…)
@@SuperFlashDriver this is why piracy is skrocketing.
you can get better versions of games + patches + dlc and no drm.
@@--Traveler-- Oh yeah, but I'm just saying the past was better in quality compared to nowadays where everything revolves around money. Sure, money back then was fine but at least quality was there. Now everything is a rush job and it sucks. But yes, Piracy is always going to be good regardless of generation.
@SuperFlashDriver Does the video game industry needs to crash?
I only care about digital when it comes to emulation or indies. But with physical you actually own the game. Thankfully, when AAA embraced Loot Boxes, microtransactions, and a certain other thing I don't like to talk about one channels like this, I embraced retro gaming whole heartedly. The Switch and PS4 are my last modern consoles and I have no desire to go any further than that.
I'm right there with u brother
@@redcrimson1028 Luckily as an RPG lover, the Switch is a juggernaut so I'm not complaining. I recently beat Octopath Traveler and it kicks ass. I now consider it one of the must owns for fans of the genre along with SNES and PS1.
Same here.
@@coffeelover7687 for sure
Yeah retro is where its at! We like some modern games but Retro gaming gives us the most enjoyment! Cheers!
I've never bought a digital game. I even held out on the Cuphead craze until they released it physically
Nice man! You will always have a strong backlog! Cheers!
Hell yeah!
To your point about loaning games to friends, having a robust physical collection turns each of us into our own personal Blockbuster within our circle of acquaintance.
You can get physical copies for dirt cheap as well, especially if they’re used but in great condition. And if you don’t like the game, there’s always an option to resell it for the same price you paid for it or give it away. $100 at GameStop got me like 10 deluxe edition games last Black Friday and all those used games were in pristine condition
Very good way of looking at it! Cheers!
True gotta dig deep! Cheers!
The channel surfing comment was bang on! Back in the day we had limited options so we played the hell out of what we had. We didnt have 1000 games at our fingertips to channel surf through.
Yeah agreed and games kept our interest also! Cheers!
The love Robert has for Vinyl records, I have for CD ones. And let me tell you, this is absolutely the best era to collect audio CDs. They are dirt cheap!
Yeah they are! We collect those also! More bargain collect them! We collect vinyl harder because to us the music sounds the best! Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid I put my 1992 Sony CD boombox to heavy use. Nothing to write home about, audio wise. But man does it feel and look awesome. Cheers!
I love CDs, myself. I like my record collection, but those things are bulkier, less convenient to play (good luck taking them AND a good record player to a relatives house on a whim, because while they may have an old CD player crammed in a closet, the probably won't have a record player anymore), and typically cost (at minimum) three times as much if you're buying anything anywhere other than Goodwill.
Unless it's something really special, I'll usually go with the $8 CD over the $30 record.
Whats worse is these executives KNOW what you are talking about because they grew up in the physical era but greed and profits have taken over their minds. They forgot their childhood.
For sure! They say money talks! Cheers!
That is not true
This is why I have movies, games and TV shows and music on physical. I want to own it and use it at my convenience. I do enjoy gamepass cause it allows me to test to see if I like a game then I'll go and buy a physical copy of available. Just me perhaps. But delisted movies and games are a concern and maybe niche people need to get on the ball and collect those games, DVDs VHS and Blu rays whilst they here I don't see them being around much longer. Minus niche distribution like Arrow and KL and Shout factory etc but they limited in a sense. I'm rambling. Great vidja fellas
Some anime series don't even have blu rays. I just get whats available to support a series. I'd love to show my younger brothers my anime,manga, cartoon, and video game collection. Especially since they live with my mom. She used to get rid of my stuff when I was at school. It was usually stuff she thought I'd outgrown. I'm still surprised I even have my childhood video games. I had to rescue my game boy advance sp from her house though. I found it in my brother's toybox after I'd moved out. My game boy advance boxes got trashed while I was at school one day. I'm hoping my brothers have it easier.
Just never know when streaming services will drop stuff you enjoy! Nice having the physical to not worry about it! Cheers!
Great follow-up video guys. I was just in a GameStop last week talking to the cashier about the same thing. I loved being a kid who grew up in the 90’s and could browse the games at ToysRUs, Blockbuster and Target. Buying digital, for me, is a last resort. Having that tangible game and the memories associated with it is priceless.
and now... toys r us, gone. at least where i live. target? moved away. best buy? moved away. gamestop? moved away. mostly due to crime in the area. leaving me with either walmart.. or buying physical online. if i cant get physical in one of those ways? i have to resort to digital, i.e. metroid prime remaster. i fear gaming will be all digital next gen. at which point.. i may just say "im out" and just play my huge backlog and then keep building my retro game cart collection i can play. besides, gaming is going so woke now with its characters... its a huge turn off. insulting. younger gen gamers dont care, they never had caviar before, meaning, they didnt grow up in the golden age of gaming. they have no reference to have standards for games today.
@@retrogamer8085 I was wondering if you lived in Portland or something but I guess not since you still have a Wal-Mart.
you probably got that guy fired 😶
@@mgshock lol! no, not in portland lol. its a southern state. most major cities and surrounding suburbs are gettin pretty gritty now with crime infested areas and big chain stores leaving towns.
It created so many great memories we wont forget and nowadays kids wont have that for themselves in the future! Cheers!
not to mention if your "digital" media, whether it be games or movies, is further tied a digital ID where as if you get restricted by some means.....you lose access or are "grounded" from playing your movies and games, sort of like a social grading/credit system. That way you'll never act our or be extra careful what you say and do so that you never lose access to your digitally owned media.
Yes it will! They have full control! Cheers!
That only works if you have a social media presence and publicize yourself on the internet, and if you do that you kinda deserve what's coming to you
@@Ayyem93 you wont have a choice in the future, youll hafta have a digital ID to access your media potentially...so uh keep pretending how great "owning nothing" will be ayyem....
@@videogamepolak0 So you mean to tell me when that day comes your biggest concern is gonna be not being able to play games and watch movies?
@@Ayyem93 wrong, just saying im not kneeling before any ideology that is pseudo science, thats up to you....Ill always have my abilities both physical and mental.
I agree with you guys WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!! A physical copy is yours and you can do what you want with it. It is a sad day when companies/corporations take away your options. If your internet is down or there’s a problem with the servers you can’t get the patches…then they make you pay for DLC.What happened to unlocking content within the game?? Stuff already included.The feeling of unlocking certain things the feeling of accomplishment is the best feeling.Bragging rights. I say power to the people ✊🏾
Definitely agree! They turned almost most the achievements into dlc to make more money! We arent fans of that model! Cheers!
The heck are you talking about
12:30
I had to pretty much re-evaluate and force myself to beat games until the credits roll because i was exactly that. especially with PC gaming, I think i spent more time modding and downloading games that I want to play more than actually playing them for more than an hour. Steam achievements tell the same story. A lot of people don't even beat games let alone get halfway through.
Yeah it just seems like the desire to conquer and master games isnt there for digital! Not saying thats true for everybody but seems to happen often! Cheers!
It's a double edge sword because games take more to truly engage you, but steam pricing cannot be beat and you can amass a collection very cheap. And among those games, you're likely to find a gem that you truly love
Another factor here, is that most people probably just have their games shipped to them. I know I do.
That being said, this is all about power. They just know that they have to move slowly, so people don't freak out. Ultimately, they want 100% of the control in their hands.
People probably do for sure but even online has out of stocks sometimes also! Yeah they do to maximize there profits! Cheers!
I astounded by the fact you are conscious enough to see the writing on the wall. Most gamers I meet are totally gone with the fluoride stare and pea brain,know it all mentality so you guys are a breath of fresh air !
Thanks! We just shoot from the hip and try to keep up with how gaming is going! Cheers!
I’ve always been a fan of physical copies over digital since I first started gaming. I’m old school and I would rather get up and put a physical copy in my console. I only do digital when I have no choice. It’s depressing how much stores are not having physical copies available as much anymore.
Dont blame you! There is some good games that are digital only we have some! Yeah it is very depressing! Cheers!
Guys, most modern physical games contain an entire playable version of the game on the disc or cart. PS4 and PS5 physical games will still play even after the servers shut down on those consoles.
Spot on! We've been saying that! Cheers!
“Love thy neighbor“ is something that used to be taught in every culture all across the world and while some cultures might still be teaching something similar to that, in America the new motto is:
You should hate everybody?!?
The future sucks-
Way too many cowards-
A coward would never stand up against the crowd and say “you know guys there’s a lot that’s wrong with this and you should be ashamed of yourselves?“
Cowards only blend in..
My point being is when the numbers of people get so high it’s only inevitable that we would have a higher number of more people that do not know something as simple as right from wrong!
Great video as always guys!!!
Last of a dying breed for sure!
Thanks man! Crazy times!
Also showing off a shelf or room full of physical games is way more impressive than a digital collection on a TV screen
It looks bettee to our eyes! 🍻
People who throw away their physical stuff to buy digital are crazy. I will never understand it unless you either travel around a lot or have literally no space (still then wouldn't you want to keep say you're favourite ever 10-20 games, albums, movies, books in physical format??).
As physical collectors we fully think the same way so we dont know why either! Cheers!
If games go digital-only, I'm out. This is from a gamer with thousands of physical games collected over 30 years.
Same here. I began to write off Modern Gaming around (2007-2013)
When we had to wait 4-5 years to get a fucking complete fighting game after three editions and now "Seasons", (starting in the 7th Generation) I knew we were in trouble...
When I paid $400 and got the RROD, I said I'd never buy another Xbox Console. I've stuck to that, don't miss anything.
I'm fine with all my old consoles, updated Mods, ODE's, EverDrives and MiSTer FPGA. The kids can have this new BS.
Dont blame you man! Always got a retro also! Cheers!
Thanks guys. I appreciate what you do. Something you said about not finishing games made me want to share a story with you. A few years ago I had a pile of unfinished games. Wife went out of town and I had a bunch of time to finish two, DeBlob and Twilight Princess, and I felt real good. So for my new year’s resolution I put all my unfinished games (at the time) in alphabetical order and played them all to completion. I still gave myself permission to buy one new game for every old one I beat. I wrote a blog about it and I took a lot of pride in my challenge. Extremely satisfying. It took over three years, but I had a killer time.
Thats so awesome! Glad you knock all those out! Cheers!
only time I buy digital is when they go like 60% to 90% on sale depending of the game itself (if it interest me a lot or if it's a really good game). I have never bought something full price in a digital marketplace. I do not see the point of doing that since most of the time everything goes on sale after few months
That is a very smarr strategy! Lots of people just arent patient enough to wait! Cheers!
In terms of stores, one thing I noticed is, it's only the large franchises in stores now. It's pretty much just Madden, COD, and stuff like that. I haven't bought a game in a store in several years, because they have none of the games I want.
Yeah thats mostly what we see if we see anything! Cheers!
Were on the loosing side, but we still feel like winners when were free to do whatever we want with out physical media.
That is true! Physical media forever! Cheers!
I have my own game room I have tons of games. I totally agree with what you’re saying physical is the way to go. License does not matter to a physical owner. We can play these games whenever we want to.
Totally agree! You dont have to worry about that with physical! Cheers!
Great comments you guys! Everything spot on! I hate programed obsolescence and what they are doing to us consumers
I'm realizing now that we created this problem for ourselves... think back to the late 90s and early 2000s, I'm sure a lot of us were downloading all sorts of media that we weren't supposed to like music movies and videogames
Think Napster, think Limewire, think about the torrent sites we used to use to fill our hard drives with a lot of bootlegged content
All that happened is companies realized this and capitalized on it because they knew a lot of us were relying on digital media already
Yes they took advantage of us but we basked in the glories of the digital era pretty much immediately very early on
Think about how Metallica was right in the end and sharing music digitally ended up hurting the artist more so than helping them, you can say that anyone can be discovered with this technology but think about when was the last time you bought a brand new music CD from your favorite artist
It's a big pill to swallow that we're very close to that dreaded all digital future
Very true! They realized it was a profitable service they could bring on later! Cheers!
I think you guys are touching on something bigger than videogames. This is something we're seeing across the board. What is life gonna be like in the coming years? I think we have to get back to Real, cookouts, fire pits, friends, laughs, in person. I don't want to lose touch with reality.
100% We see it in tons of aspects in life! We are a gaming channel thats the only reason we mentioned it! Makes me all nervous for what the future holds for us! Cheers!
The truth is, though, that the physical media will break down and die in like 10-20 or 30 years it stops working. What you need is non-DRM files, like with GOG's model. You can put it on a backup flash drive, multiple computers, an m-disc that'll last 1000 years, whatever you want.
As far as boxed games, for me, it's more about the aesthetic and the cover art and the novelty of it, but the actual physical disc doesn't last forever.
Good points! Emulation will be big part of the future! Cheers!
Here in Finland we still have thankfully many stores (even department stores like Prisma) with sections filled with different physical video games without any empty spots. However, I've also noticed that how digital media have been slowly taking over the market here too. Those shelves that still have video games in different stores, tend to be narrowed (except local video game based stores) from the days when I was a kid (mostly 2000's) and have only like couple copies of each game at the same time in the shelf (back in the day there was tens of copies at the same time of each game and every time when there came brand new game it was highlighted with Its own stand mainly at the large walkway near the video game shelves or video game section). I've also noticed that more and more those physical copies that stores are selling for you can be found and bought only from their own websites (this is not a problem for me because I'm good for buying physical copies from websites but It's not good for those who can't afford or don't want to use the internet). And as many other people have already highlighted it here, I'm also disappointed to see that kind of development because I'm favoring more physical video games than digital. It's because when you buy a physical video game you don't have to be connected to the internet as often as with digital copies (which of course pays and annoys the crap out when it cuts out for some reason especially right at the moment when you're downloading something) and with physical copy you can guarantee that you really own it and can reinstall it back to your console and, if it breaks down to unrepearable condition, you can even install it to a new console without paying extra just by putting your disc into your console (with digital downloads you can't reinstall it for free if your console's hardware breaks down and you have to download it again for new console from console's online store, and also you can't download it again if you're already living at the time when console's own store servers have been shut down). Those are the reasons why I've already bought (and I'm going to buy in the future) only physical consoles instead of digital only ones and only physical games instead of digitally downloadable ones. I see physical video games as worthy items filled with worthy memories from their own generations, not just some dust collecting trash that waste earth's resources.
We hope it stays strong even in future generations! Cheers!
That last episode is what made me subscribe.
Happy for the follow up!!
We still laugh at my kid and his cousins that use to blow (spital) in the Nintendo cartridge before putting it in the console. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks so much for subscribing! We appreciate it so much! Yeah as collectors we find plenty on NES SNES cartridges with that crude 😂! Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid 😂😂😂😂
All amazing points guys. I don't think they care about our generation (or age group) though. They are thinking about what the younger generation will do in 10 years. That generation is already used to streaming on demand and moving on to the next thing at a rapid pace. Sure - a few of them will be drawn to physical media, but it will be an even smaller percentage than our generation. It's sad, but it truly is out of our control.
Yeah they really dont know any better! Its just what they are use to! Cheers!
I've never bought anything digital and never will. Constantly building my physical collection and loving it.
LOVE IT!!! Stick to your guns brotha!
I'm from Kansas, one thing I've noticed is that for the longest time you could pre order a game and it would arrive the morning of release.. Now everywhere I look they won't even put it in the mail until the release date.
Yeah thats stupid in our opinions! We feel they do it on purpose to see if you will buy digital while you wait! Cheers!
It's not about the fans anymore, it's all about what the company can have there selves point blank period 😢
Spot on man! Profits over consumers! Cheers!
Pretty much, all the big pillars of western games have crumbled and turned into micro transaction machines.
Great video guys.
I grew up in the 80s and I still have my consoles and games from then (physical obviously). Nobody is going to take those away from me but with modern games you are basically renting them even if you have them physical because of all the reasons you guys mentioned.
Thanks man! Keep retro gaming alive! Cheers!
With the exception of the Switch I believe Xbox 360, PS3 & Wii U were the last consoles that didn’t require internet connection to play most games from physical disc
That is a pretty accurate statement! Cheers!
There’s just something about playing/ collecting the games that you love that just gets me excited when I purchase a game I enjoyed playing and putting it on my shelf! I feel the Xbox/ ps3 era will be the last generation of physical media that will still be playable in the long run but I hope not!
Yeah it probably will be the last big physical era to exist and can see the marker being high in 10 years or more because of it! Cheers!
This is why I wholeheartedly support emulation. We need to preserve the history of games and we can't properly do that with modern games without access to patches and DLC, and those things aren't on the disc.
I bought RE4 remake on the XSX for $50, beat the game then sold it for the same $50. That's the most beneficial thing I believe is in owning a physical copy.
Yes thats one of the best parts of owning physical! Capitalism! Cheers!
I have a suggestion...why doesn't the video game companies allow us to have the option to not only download the game to our consoles or stream...but allow us to burn a physical copy to disc or cartridge format. Kind of like when you buy digital music you can burn to a cd if you would like to.
Thats a good idea! Not sure why we dont have that option! Maybe in the future! Cheers!
Thus great idea but it will never happen. People would figure out ways to pirate media a la ps1, ps2. Sony really had to think hard bout ps1/2 piracy n they lost lots
It's honestly really scary because we can look back and say we remember heaving soo much fun with a game in the PS2 generation ans we'd buy a old PS2 and the nostalgia still holds those games up.
But with the new gamers of today they'll won't have anything to go back to because once the digital copy is delisted there's no way to play it again.
Yeah its going to be a shame and they will be disappointed in the future when they cant! Cheers!
Piracy: Am I a joke to you??
@@GamingOffTheGrid You can play delisted games just fine. The inability to purchase them does not remove them from your library.
Modern Gaming is garbage and you know it is when Madden 05 is more deep and has more features than Madden 23 lol
It is. Graphics don't make a good game
💯 agree!
Modern gaming is super trash… Nintendo Switch is the last man standing.
Oh Yes Madden 05 is one of the best football games ever! Cheers!
Yeah, that was Ida Auken who said "you will own nothing and you will be happy." and I think she is tied in with the WEF. As an American that doesn't sit well with most of us though I doubt anyone else likes that kind of philosophy either. We as the human creature are by our very nature possessive of our property no matter what it might be. Unfortunately, I'm afraid you guys are right about physical gaming going the way of the dodo. For physical collectors like me it's unthinkable but I'm afraid at this point it's unstoppable. I will say however that when a generation of consoles are released and no physical option exists at all. I will be done collecting anything new and exclusively collect retro at that point.
We agree we will go full retro if that happens! 🍻
Another thing people may not have thought about is also when something physical becomes OOP (Out of Print) and the prices skyrocket like no other and sadly this applies to all forms of media being vide games, movies, cds, ect... I'm really into anime and have been looking for classics i loved back in the day and cant find a copy and if i do it's over 100 dollars or more for 3 episodes on a DVD... Limited run games and the other companies like them are one reason i can't collect games anymore besides the OOP issue i stated because sense they only produce a "limited" quantity of games they may sell for 60 bucks when they release them but they automatically jump in price as soon as they are bought just because of all the scalpers and just the low amount of copies produced.
If they really want to go all digital they should prioritize STORAGE
Yeah storage now is not set up for all digital! Cheers!
As soon as it's all digital, I'm out, I have a backlog of games that would take 2 lifetimes to beat them all. Who needs em, the garbage they're putting out now anyways, you'll own nothing and be happy because you won't have their trash games on your game shelf. You'll have retro masterpieces, and you will own those.
Dont blame you man! We have that to turn to also! Theres still some retro games out there we could buy also! Cheers!
Physical has more pros than cons and it's 100% better than digital. Right now we can't see the cons of having everything digitals because all the networking/infrastructure is still 100% running and fonctionnal but I'm very curious to see what they will do im 20 years (MC, Sony and Nintendo) with their marketplace. Most of them use DRM and if your console can't log online you can't access any of your digital content. Btw I sub since your last video, your mentality about gaming joins mine for the couple videos i've seen of you yet.
Yeah we are very nervous to see where it is 20 yeaes from now! Thanks for subbing! Its very much appreciated! Cheers!
I already remember games from back when I was in high school that were browser-based. Those games no longer exist, and if there are ANY versions of them existing anywhere, it's not publicly available. It's really depressing knowing that those games simply no longer exist. Since then, I'm doing what I can to make physical cracked versions of media that was only released digitally, that way if anything happens, it hopefully isn't lost forever. Of course, there's only so much you can do, and even physical media decays beyond repair sooner or later, but it's better than nothing.
Your channel should do a spot on picking up games from the library. My library doesn’t even charge when turned in late. Not to mention sometimes I can collect gold coins from library games I never spent a penny on.
We have never checked out our library for games! We will have to see if they have games! Cheers!
My biggest gripe with having digital media besides not actually owning anything is the bullshit internet cap, 1.2TB monthly, factoring in streaming services for shows/movies, downloading big ass games, playing online games, and then all the phone stuff. I’ve paid enough overage fees to buy probably 10 games just last year alone.
Luckily, I’ve been buying physical media for games, shows, & movies pretty heavy for the past decade. I’ve got a nice enough backlog to last me the rest of my life.
Dang that sucks! Yeah its always good to have backlog to rely on! Cheers!
Physical over digital!
-you own them
-can sell them
-collect them
-lend to a friend
-look on them
-mostly cheaper than digital
-when harddrive dead and Shops down everything is f**ked
- not every game will die at once (my ps1 games still all function)
The only positive on digital (mostly not for you the player)
-The company makes more money (no delivery, no physical printing cost, no packaging, everyone has to own a copy so more money)
-you don‘t need space for youre collection
- third party seller can sell you theyre hardrive because you will need more then 1…..
Digital is in compare to physical so bad i don‘t understand people who want digital more than physical….
All great points for physical! They like digital because its easier! That's the main reason! Cheers!
Great video, as always fellas! I had this conversation with my 18 year old nephew just yesterday about this same thing. We’re both gamers, but in different generations. I asked him to show me his game room and he was so excited to show me! As I entered his room it was a computer desk, mouse and PC. He started talking to me about the graphics card, specs, etc. Nothing physical in sight. No discs, cartridges, nothing. It’s heartbreaking that in 2023 THAT is considered a gamer. I am so passionate about physical media, 80’s and 90’s nostalgia. An easier time, for sure. It’s sad that new generation gamers and old school gamers really have nothing in common.
Yeah it is sad! I feel like 10-15 years from now what will he have to show for it! Especially if they all go subscription service! There will be alot of regret from the younger generation! Cheers!
I don’t think they even release physical copies for PC games anymore. That’s why he has none.
Well, to be fair he's still a gamer he just doesn't have a room full of games to stare at he just has games he actually plays... Not sure how having a physical game makes you a gamer but okay 😂
By the way I'm 37 not some kid and having a room full of games doesn't make you a gamer playing them does.
Totally agree guys, it's the sign of the future. Honestly, although it's another digital form, the core concepts of crypto are one of the few things we have to combat the idea of losing ownership. Not to go on too much buch the concept of decentralisation, although still in a digital sense means you have control and are the owner, as opposed to what the WEF want where we have no control and just rent everything.
For sure! We only know about Bitcoin and its not alot! They want us at there Mercy! Cheers!
I just bought a PS4 with psvr in January. I asked the person that sold it to me if he had any games to sell with. He said he downloaded all his games, no physical titles.
I am late to the PS4 party. I always buy my consoles at the end of their commercial life. That way I usually find games at low prices. What I have noticed is that the games I am interested in are still expensive in physical form. But, I have found that the sales on the playstation store are a great deal. I find the same games sometimes %80 discount sale. I never bought games electronically before but, it is just way more convenient. But, this is very short slighted. I resell my games on eBay and marketplace when I am done with them and when I have no interest in collecting them. I won't be able to do that now.
What I also find interesting is that my 7 year old son has grown playing retro games. He loves to look at the boxes, manuals and posters that come in the package. He has asked why we don't have the boxes and manuals for the new games. I think that kids will not form the same kind of bond as we did growing up with physical media.
We buy them late for the same reason! That's awesome your son gets to see the games in that form and appreciates it! We think if more kids seen that they would also! Cheers!
The day physical copies disappear is the day they lose me as a client and the pirate life welcome me back
We dont blame you! Alot will go that way! Cheers!
Guys you nailed it yet again. I think the figure will be a USB plug in for disc drives but none built into the console. Kind of like laptops.
Also I think you and @filmsathome need to put out some type of conversation about this topic. He's huge into physical media for movies and series and that would be a cool crossover topic.
Alot of people mention USBs! That would be a good idea! Yeah that would be cool to do a crossover! Cheers!
I agree when you said they remove shows and movies off of Netflix. Prison break Is my favourite show and they took it away. At the moment I am looking for the entire series thats region free in Canada.I love my physical media man.
Yeah its so sad when they just delete things! Physical media forever! Cheers!
I didn't even notice your last video got 7 times the number of views as you guys have subscribers congratulations on having such a hit. I usually play new games on PC and the only thing I don't like about PC gaming is games usually haven't been released on discs since at least a decade. I still buy older PC games physically when I can for so many reasons. I don't really care about lending my games on account of the fact that I don't have friends but I like the fact that I don't have to worry about Eidos taking away my right to play Thief The Dark Project because I have the discs and they'd have to call a SWAT team to raid my house to even have a chance to take them from me. Also when I was in the army I couldn't afford internet because it was expensive in that part of Alaska and I got paid less than minimum wage so I could only play video games physically. And even aside from reasons like those and more, having a collection of all the video games I like is just cool.
Ya man, that video popped off. It was nuts
Yes. I do the same as well. I always get old PC games physically every chance I get! Even if you get PC games that require online activation, they are so old at this point that the community has probably made a server for them. Case in point Star Wars Galaxies or Everquest. Vintage physical is the way to go!
The issue with the subscription model is that it is always up to the companies discretion on what games you are allowed to play. There are so many hidden gems and so many titles that could be resurfaced and get a new audience for. It comes off like "Who cares about X game anymore, lets not bother adding that one"
Now in days I keep both a physical copy and a digital backup of my games.
That is very smart! Your prepared! Cheers!
Y’all called it, just yesterday it hit the interwebs that Ubisoft made a streaming service for Assassins Creed Games. 17.99 separate from Game Pass.
Oh really we had not seen that! Crazy its already beginning! Cheers!
Games right now are so big, they should sell it a hard drives and not on Blu-ray discs, that how physical media will come back))
They definitely should! Physical forever! Cheers!
This is why roms and emulators exist. These companies only care about profit
Very true! There popularity will continue to grow! Cheers!
I know that now I do think about this a lot more than I used to. This is one of the reasons I've really loved the Switch and the limited release companies that have popped up around it. I can say for sure that I have bought games digitally when on super deep discount on my Xbox SX and PS5, but it's only when it's games I care nothing about retaining. On the flip side I have bought games digitally on my Xbox and then physical on the Switch. Because my friends wanted to play it online on Xbox. I'm not saying everyone can or even should do this. But it has become a part of my buying decisions now when it never used to be.
Lots of our comments are like yours that they buy a little both ways! We arent trying to say physical is the only way you should buy we just want the option for both so people have a choice! Cheers!
I recently got the collector edition of the game "Ib" for the Nintendo Switch. And it's not like I've never played this game before : I had a pirated version in 2013, then bought it for real on Steam when the remake came out.
And yet...having the box feels different. I can hold it in my hands, display it on my shelf, lend it to my friends...there's even a small artbook ! It's the same game I've owned for years, and yet it's crazy how different it feels.
Yeah alot of people say the same thing! It just feels bettee to hold the game in your hands! Cheers!
I think that digital media has become overrated as a source of entertainment. I am thankful that I lived in a time when I could go to a store, buy the game I liked and took it home to enjoy, share, or make memories with friends. However, gaming companies have different priorities. Thus, we enjoy and appreciate the art in our hard drives when it comes and move on to other ways of enjoying life. The one thing that I won't miss about physical media is false scarcity of games.
Good points! One thing about false scarcity is most those expensive games were 1 late releases so not many sold so when all collectors want to buy all games supply and demand makes the games rise. 2. It usually lower selling games for similar reasons get crazy expensive! Cheers!
I don't see myself ever not collecting physical media, I have enough games for retro systems that I've never played. I would probably be set for a while. I recently got a repro of the Simpsons arcade for dreamcast, highly recommend
Yeah there will always be retro physical media which is awesome! Oh nice we love the Simpsons so we would enjoy it! Cheers!
I think Game Pass is good value if you are someone who likes to try out lots of different games, but you don't want to spend hours and hours playing them. Whereas if you're a completionist who might spend 100+ hours on one game, then perhaps paying £10.99 a month isn't good value. In that case you're better off paying for the physical game.
Great content as always lads!
Very true for both types of gamers! Cheers!
Going back to the days of being in an arcade, everyone essentially pays to play but can't take the game home. lol We've come full circle.
True but you completely determined how many quarters you put into the machines! Digital its a set price and usually full price! Cheers!
Really pleased about the views for your last video. One point I would make is that I rarely bought brand new games as a teenager or the old man i am today. I have probably bought 4 new games in the last couple of years. If people don't buy brand new games then I would struggle to get those nearly new/retro games. The retro game shops near me are thriving but the big brands aren't getting a kick back, so if this is the trend I guess that's why it's going that way.
Thanks man! Its a very passionate subject that might be why it was well viewed! Yeah we think its possible with modern gaming going more digital that retro gaming will get a bigger resurgence! Cheers!
Great video bro’s, I agree 100%. Glad to see a lot of people watched the last video and the growth of the channel. Appreciate you guys, cheers!
Thanks man! Last couple weeks have been crazy with comments and views! Cheers brotha!
So what I'm hearing you say is... the future is emulation. Music went digital and I haven't bought music in 15 years. They had to bring back vinyl to bring back sales.
Yeah who knows that could be the cycle gaming goes thru the next 20 years! Be interesting! Cheers!
I think small Independent developers will struggle the most when there is no physical media as the big developers will dominate because of awareness and advertising budgets. Ironically this will mean less choice as developers take less risks. It would be interesting to see digital only PS5 sales against PS5 with disc drives as this will show month on month the trends of gamers when it comes to intent on buying physically or digitally.
Yeah for sure that will happen! The big fish will eat the small fish! Cheers!
It's not just video games but it will be everything.
A while back HEB completely got rid of they're video game isle. At first I thought it was a little strange, then I saw your previous video talking about other stores getting rid of physical games. I may have a few digital games, but they will NEVER replace physical.
Sorry to hear about your HEB! Yeah we never replace our physical either! Cheers!
Remember when they took Duck tales and chip n dale games from the digital store ? If you own it physically they can’t take it away.
Yeah thats one of the biggesrlt risk of buying digital! Poof its gone! Cheers!