Ernie san, it's true, I really wish people who are sitting on those equipments would sell it if they are really not using. Making molds for the parts to make the processors is another entire budget, more demand more supply, no demand.. so little supply, it was my honor to be shooting customers who come into our Impossible Store in tokyo for the 2 whole days. all of them were willing to pay for their memorable shot.
As the extremely highly paid model I must say that having your portrait shot with an 8x10 camera is a super special experience. Highly recommend checking it out next time Impossible Tokyo does another demonstration
Wow. I grew up with Polaroid film (Dad worked at the Norwood, Waltham and Cambridge MA sites) but I had no idea there was an 8x10 version of instant process film. Thanks for sharing this video.
Thanks so much for your clear set of instructions and hints. So nice to watch a real user. I just bought an 8x10 Polaroid processor, unopened pack of 809, and holders at a, literally, trunk sale (as in car trunks). I used to shoot 4x5 Polaroid, so am looking forward to the same feeling you had looking at the 8X10.
Thanks Mijonju! I'm currently putting together an 8x10 kit to shoot this film and this was very helpful. One thing I noticed that might not be correct: Large format lenses use leaf shutters and can normally sync flash at any speed.
Thanks for the tip, I wasn't sure and 1 sheet of film is not cheap, But I guess I will try it, actually what you said makes sense too, it's a leaf shutter, I went with a slower shutter in this shot is because i want the natural lit back paper to make the lines on the paper disappear. I'll try up to 500 on my next shot :) thanks again!
is there ways to not use the electric rollers, i might have seen something on film photography projects youtube but it might have been 8x10 film not Polaroid but just a question, great video i was waiting for you to do this!
Found your video ( four years late) and have one takeaway for my LF, i.e. rotate the lens 90 degrees from 12 o'clock (as received condition) to 3 o'clock allowing me to see SS and Aperture settings when the camera lens is at head level. Previously, had to go on my tiptoes to see the readings or on my knees to look underneath. Lens (4) changed. Thanks.
I took a class in photobooth SF. We put the positive into the holder and load it to the processor. Are there machine differences or that's how all the electric processor like? BTW do not throw away the dark slide. It is a prefect enclosure/file for the film.
How plentyful are Polaroid 8x10 film holders and electric processors? It's nice that Impossible Project has created this film, but it would be more accessible to the public if there was enough gear or if Impossible Project manufactured the gear to process their own film.
Did u ever go to a art school or take a photography class or just learned by research and etc. I'm planning on going to SCAD in Hong Kong :) major in photography minor in illustration
good video, I notice you say 1/30th second for flash sync., but because it's a leaf shuttered lens (as are all large format lenses) the sync speed I think is the fastest the lens will go (usually 1/500th second). hope this helps.
Kevin Leinster it's in a package with a dark slide paper, you pull it while it's in a holder, you out the entire holder so it never gets exposed to light
Just checked the Impossible 8x10 support page. The image is a mirror image so text will be reversed etc.. support.impossible-project.com/hc/en-us/articles/206313628-10-Things-You-Should-Know-About-8x10-Film
Holy cow batman! That thing is huge! I was off on the price tho. By like $200,000. Now I wonder wonder how big is the sensor on the hubble telescope. Hmm...
I agree with Andy the flash sync speed is 1/500th of a second since its a leaf shutter. Everyone I know who shoots digital SLR full frame think its at 1/200th of the max for any camera but that's focal plane shutter. Great video and I am thinking of making the jump 4x5 since the price is prohibitive for me right now
+Joe Doe Not really... There exists medium format cinematography, shooting 70mm film, you might know it as IMAX. Even though the product exists people choose to use smaller digital format as it is more flexible. At this point choices are for artistic purposes. You see people like Christopher Nolan taking that route in Interstellar. I am paraphrasing but he said something on the lines of "With a bigger format there is also more opportunity". You can also see a TV series like Walking Dead shooting on Superfilm cameras and I do believe they said it was do to the "grain that only film can make, a more reliable camera as it is a art form that has existed for almost a 100 years and doesn't require electronic compatibility to work"
z0biC Yes I know what 65mm film is, Kodak vision 3 is phenomenal even all the way down to 8mm. But 8x10 is not medium format, it's large format. I only shoot film both stills and video, if I need cheap and long runtimes I'll use Digibeta, DVC Pro 50, and IMX which are tape based formats and you can see the quality they achieve on vimeo. Digital is not as cheap as most think and is a myth thrown around by people who have never done anything even half assed serious. Enterprise grade server hard drives, tons of TBs of space needed and getting worse as resolution goes up and compression gets replaced with raw uncompressed files. Then the high powered maxed out spec computers and rendering servers needed for ingestion and editing, etc. You're just trading one expense for another. Film is often times cheaper, especially on larger productions. Short films and b-films benefit the most from digital. For large productions it's more of a choice of aesthetics, like how Always sunny in Philadelphia was made using a couple of dvx100 minidv tape cameras as a cost saving measure but also what gave it it's gritty, dirty vibe. They resisted HD for a while as it didn't match the shows aesthetic, clinically clean is not what every show wants or needs. Writing, acting, lighting, sound design, mise en scene, etc though trump cameras at the end of the day.
+Constantin Dumitrascu Yea, if you have at least $15,000 to $20,000 just lying around in a piggy bank or something (e.g., you'll also need to invest in lenses and software). And, even then, the 8x10 negative will still print at a higher resolution than the medium format digital files at a small fraction of the cost.
The real sad thing is the sound quality on the video. Really? Come on. Going to explain a very impressive photograph process and you have less then amature sound.
Ernie san, it's true, I really wish people who are sitting on those equipments would sell it if they are really not using. Making molds for the parts to make the processors is another entire budget, more demand more supply, no demand.. so little supply, it was my honor to be shooting customers who come into our Impossible Store in tokyo for the 2 whole days. all of them were willing to pay for their memorable shot.
As the extremely highly paid model I must say that having your portrait shot with an 8x10 camera is a super special experience. Highly recommend checking it out next time Impossible Tokyo does another demonstration
That was awesome. Good to see the old formats getting a new lease of life.
the beauty of analogue photography ... great stuff!
Wow. I grew up with Polaroid film (Dad worked at the Norwood, Waltham and Cambridge MA sites) but I had no idea there was an 8x10 version of instant process film. Thanks for sharing this video.
Thanks Mijonju. 8by10 is probably out of my league but seeing you clear, detailed explanation of the process was fascinating!
Thanks so much for your clear set of instructions and hints. So nice to watch a real user. I just bought an 8x10 Polaroid processor, unopened pack of 809, and holders at a, literally, trunk sale (as in car trunks). I used to shoot 4x5 Polaroid, so am looking forward to the same feeling you had looking at the 8X10.
You're a great teacher! Thanks for posting this video!
Thanks Mijonju! I'm currently putting together an 8x10 kit to shoot this film and this was very helpful.
One thing I noticed that might not be correct: Large format lenses use leaf shutters and can normally sync flash at any speed.
Great picture. What a cool camera too.
this is a super niche product. love that its having a new life again
Thanks for the tip, I wasn't sure and 1 sheet of film is not cheap, But I guess I will try it, actually what you said makes sense too, it's a leaf shutter, I went with a slower shutter in this shot is because i want the natural lit back paper to make the lines on the paper disappear. I'll try up to 500 on my next shot :) thanks again!
Wow. Thanks for this video. I've always wanted to know how all that all worked. I've never seen the processor part. How cool.
Amazing process and photo! Thank You for sharing.
awesome video man! appreciate you filming this, you dont get to see this process of taking a photo very often nowadays :D
just wonder about the dynamic range of this film. Have you tried to take a landscape photo and check the dynamic range? Anyway, nice demonstration!
is there ways to not use the electric rollers, i might have seen something on film photography projects youtube but it might have been 8x10 film not Polaroid but just a question, great video i was waiting for you to do this!
Found your video ( four years late) and have one takeaway for my LF, i.e. rotate the lens 90 degrees from 12 o'clock (as received condition) to 3 o'clock allowing me to see SS and Aperture settings when the camera lens is at head level. Previously, had to go on my tiptoes to see the readings or on my knees to look underneath. Lens (4) changed. Thanks.
I took a class in photobooth SF. We put the positive into the holder and load it to the processor. Are there machine differences or that's how all the electric processor like?
BTW do not throw away the dark slide. It is a prefect enclosure/file for the film.
How plentyful are Polaroid 8x10 film holders and electric processors? It's nice that Impossible Project has created this film, but it would be more accessible to the public if there was enough gear or if Impossible Project manufactured the gear to process their own film.
I thought that the whole process was a little too much for one image, and then I saw the final result...it looks like it might be worth it. Wow.
Amazing! Did they have to use huge rollers for the 20 by 24 inch polaroid camera? I thought you just peeled it apart and there was the image...
great tip :) I use it to file documents at home, looks cool. I'm not sure which processor you are using. but all should be the same.
Did u ever go to a art school or take a photography class or just learned by research and etc. I'm planning on going to SCAD in Hong Kong :) major in photography minor in illustration
Great video. I love your rings. Where they come from ?
Thank you so much I am waiting for my processor and my first impossible film so this helps a lot!
Did you need to have your film holder modified to open with hinges on the side?
good video, I notice you say 1/30th second for flash sync., but because it's a leaf shuttered lens (as are all large format lenses) the sync speed I think is the fastest the lens will go (usually 1/500th second). hope this helps.
Perfect... Is oit possible to get negative from 8x10 impossible film for HQ scanning?
So how is the negative fixed (so it won't be exposed more) or is it at all?
Hi great video ! Can you tell me what is the name of the machine where you put the negative and the positive together ? Thx !!
Kevin Leinster Polaroid 8X10 processor with tray
Kevin Leinster it's in a package with a dark slide paper, you pull it while it's in a holder, you out the entire holder so it never gets exposed to light
How about a video of scanning a 8x10 negative to digital?
any thought about the Hexar RF?
Beautiful!!!
that was Awesome! i would like to shoot with that set up!
priceless video, thanks mijonju! :)
Great video! Cheers!
I can't tell... is the final image a mirror image or not? The model is wearing a black top so I can't make out which side is buttoned....
Just checked the Impossible 8x10 support page. The image is a mirror image so text will be reversed etc..
support.impossible-project.com/hc/en-us/articles/206313628-10-Things-You-Should-Know-About-8x10-Film
amazing process. thanks for sharing.
There is a hand crank processor for like field use.
excellent video
Holy cow batman! That thing is huge! I was off on the price tho. By like $200,000. Now I wonder wonder how big is the sensor on the hubble telescope. Hmm...
I like the show with a camera man.
How did you happen to get your hands on the processor?
They're all over eBay for a couple of hundred to several hundred dollars.....
Yep pretty much! Awesome vid BTW
So cool!
Mjonju what shirt and jumper r u wearing i = love it ;'D
Cool Video...
Really want to start this but without any kickstarter project in sight on this, US$1000 for that roller thing is impossible hill to climb
You can get used versions between $200 - $400.....
Remember, these processors have been around for 20-30 years!
we'll just in case you had a chance in some workshop or photography rental room, you can have fun with it, if the materials are available :)
I was really worried for a second when he said he was unboxing film
cool
Mijonju. does the pack of film comes with the holder? or do i need to buy it separately?
great porn btw!
SINGAPORE! YAY. hi.
I agree with Andy the flash sync speed is 1/500th of a second since its a leaf shutter. Everyone I know who shoots digital SLR full frame think its at 1/200th of the max for any camera but that's focal plane shutter. Great video and I am thinking of making the jump 4x5 since the price is prohibitive for me right now
GOALS
:O I want that BEANIE!!! good video mijonju!!!
YES FINALLY
both, but I like to keep it in 1 piece just as it is :)
A 8x10 digital form! Lets guess how much that would cost. My guess $230,000.
wow!
You have to buy separately :)
just for us photography loving geeks hahahah :)
i would love you meet you some day Mijonju...
nikon D800E
that Deardorff OMG!! Extreme Camera Porn!! it would be awesome if impossible make something similar for 4x5 cameras.
Guy or girl?
...lesbian in a guys body.
fucking awesome!! BTW
Can you imagine an 8x10 cinema camera 0_o
Digital would be dead lol
+Joe Doe Not really... There exists medium format cinematography, shooting 70mm film, you might know it as IMAX. Even though the product exists people choose to use smaller digital format as it is more flexible. At this point choices are for artistic purposes. You see people like Christopher Nolan taking that route in Interstellar. I am paraphrasing but he said something on the lines of "With a bigger format there is also more opportunity".
You can also see a TV series like Walking Dead shooting on Superfilm cameras and I do believe they said it was do to the "grain that only film can make, a more reliable camera as it is a art form that has existed for almost a 100 years and doesn't require electronic compatibility to work"
z0biC Yes I know what 65mm film is, Kodak vision 3 is phenomenal even all the way down to 8mm. But 8x10 is not medium format, it's large format. I only shoot film both stills and video, if I need cheap and long runtimes I'll use Digibeta, DVC Pro 50, and IMX which are tape based formats and you can see the quality they achieve on vimeo.
Digital is not as cheap as most think and is a myth thrown around by people who have never done anything even half assed serious. Enterprise grade server hard drives, tons of TBs of space needed and getting worse as resolution goes up and compression gets replaced with raw uncompressed files. Then the high powered maxed out spec computers and rendering servers needed for ingestion and editing, etc. You're just trading one expense for another. Film is often times cheaper, especially on larger productions. Short films and b-films benefit the most from digital. For large productions it's more of a choice of aesthetics, like how Always sunny in Philadelphia was made using a couple of dvx100 minidv tape cameras as a cost saving measure but also what gave it it's gritty, dirty vibe. They resisted HD for a while as it didn't match the shows aesthetic, clinically clean is not what every show wants or needs.
Writing, acting, lighting, sound design, mise en scene, etc though trump cameras at the end of the day.
Well 8x10 is not meant for everyone at all.
You're better off purchasing a digital medium format camera.
+Constantin Dumitrascu Yea, if you have at least $15,000 to $20,000 just lying around in a piggy bank or something (e.g., you'll also need to invest in lenses and software). And, even then, the 8x10 negative will still print at a higher resolution than the medium format digital files at a small fraction of the cost.
unfortunately the quality of this material is nothing like the original Polaroid
1st
The real sad thing is the sound quality on the video. Really? Come on. Going to explain a very impressive photograph process and you have less then amature sound.
I wish I could afford suck things as these
you're cute