Great Video! Your historical account was accurate. Lots of good photos from Feagan's too. I still have a working VIC20 I got at a Flea Market. Keep up the good work. I will subscribe too.
Quite interesting and informative. The Vic-20 was the first computer I owned (many years ago) and I still fond memories of it. It's great to see more of the history behind it as presented in this video. Keep up the great work!
Same here 😄 PET 2001 (with tiny keyboard and built-in cassette) in high school was the first computer I ever saw/used, I got a VIC-20 for use at home and then a CBM-64. Happy days!
Great video, and interesting to hear more about the Japanese history involved. I never had a VIC-20 but my cousin did. And in recent years I have been enjoying the new homebrew games for the VIC.
Really nice video explaining the origin of this VIC computer, thanks for making it! I didn't know about it and watched the whole video to learn more. Just a small point, but recommend another MIC as yours was popping a bit.
@@commodorehistory I would suggest a using pop filter in front of your mic and/or maybe 1-2 inches more distance between the mic and your mouth :) Doesn't have to be a new mic... And also, if possible you can tweak it a little with an EQ in the post production process - low cut at around 100-150Hz. It also sounds like you are using AGC - automatic gain control. If possible, you might wanna try switching it off and rather adjust the gain manually. You can really hear the AGC kicking in...
I like how much mileage Commodore got out of their design. I mean, with minor differences, on the lower half, the C64 and VIC cases were the same, the keyboards were the same, both machines could use all the same peripherals, etc. I do wish they'd taken the extra time and perfected the IEC protocols so that they didn't have to handicap the speed of the floppy drive though.
I did a couple other videos about IEC protocol you might be interested in. One was implementing it on a KIM-1 single board computer so I can load and save to a 1541 drive from a KIM-1. The other was examining the IEC protocol in a logic analyzer and walking through it. Thanks for taking the time to watch this video and provide thoughtful feedback!
Hi Dave! You did a fantastic video🤩! I'm glad that my VIC1001 has now become "famous", it could not have gone into better hands (I'm Carlo Santagostino, currently ARCHEOLOGIA INFORMATICA is my youtube channel 😉). I can't wait to see the "part two" video!
feci un video sulla mia collezione di vic20 dove spiego le varie differenze che si possono trovare su queste macchine, ma è tutto basato su quello che ho potuto osservare direttamente dai miei pezzi e su quello che ho capito dai vari video qui su YT. Mi piacerebbe che mi dessi un parere a riguardo!
The first computer I owned was the Sinclair ZX80 😊 It had 1k memory and the first program I wrote on it was a " Guess the number Higher or Lower " and I had to truncate the string variables to get it to fit in the 1k memory available 😊
Great memories! I didn't have a VIC-20 as a kid but a friend did. We tried writing a text adventure in BASIC using if/then statements. We didn't get very far before we ran out of memory :)
@@commodorehistory I had ZX80 then the ZX81 then the C64 then the Dragon32 then the Spectrum 48k and then 128k then the cpc464 then the Toshiba HX10 MSX then the Amiga 500 then the A1200 then PC 🙂
Especially since this machine had two dead chips. The previous owner was able to replace them without needing to take a soldering iron to the board. He retained the original chips and sent them to me along with the computer.
the ieee488 connectors weren't as much 'too expensive'... they simply could not get enough of them at some point. supply shortage triggered moving that to the din serial version.
I may be biased, but i really love the Foxes drawn in the advertisement drafts 🦊 Would have loved if the Vixen branding stuck around, no valid reasoning behind it other than i just really like Foxes ahahah
I'm not convinced this was the _best_ title for this video, but it's what got me to click on it, and I'm glad I did. There's been conflicting information on whether Commodore had any concrete plans for the "Vixen" branding or if (as Wikipedia currently suggests) it was just an internal codename. So it's good to finally see that cleared up with some real pictures of the marketing mockups behind it! Where did you find that stuff, anyway? It'd be nice to have those pictures archived somewhere. I've also been playing around with VIC-1001 mode in VICE, to see if I can get a clear dump of all the PETSCII katakana characters, and I'm realizing I'm not sure how it actually works and that there is something seriously wrong with VICE's mapping. The photo of the keyboard says that holding down shift and typing QWERTY should get me "タテイスカン", for example, but it actually types what looks like "ムラメヤル". Completely random! So I guess I'm going to have to join their dumb mailing list just so I can talk to them because apparently it's 1991 and things like GitHub and forums haven't been invented yet.
Hi Pocket Fluff, thank you for the kind words. Apologies if the title was deceptive, but rest assured it was never intended to be clickbait. If you look at all my other video titles, I really do try to be as accurate as possible and I've staunchly avoided using "YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED NEXT!" titles. In this case, I didn't want to say VIC-1001 or VIC-20 history since it's really about both, and I didn't want to just use VIC history because I wanted folks to know it was about the computers and not the chip. The Vixen marketing mockups came from Michael Tomczyk. If you visit my website there's a link to all the documents I've archived on there. I don't know if the Vixen ones are archived yet, but everything I have eventually ends up on the Internet Archive for preservation. Good luck in your Katakana quest!
Indeed. I actually showed a vc-20 in the video but didn't talk about it. I'm planning to do a part two that goes into marketing, manufacturing, sales numbers, the VIC Commandos, etc. I'll cover the VC-20 in that video.
it is -not- a 22 column chip. columns and border offsets are reconfigurable (up to 28 or so visible). it is only set to 22 when implemented in a (non expanded) vic-20, cuz that saves ram space
@@commodorehistory yes. still, the vic(-1) chip does not have a fixed display size like the ted and vic-II do have. and i'm sure that if that box would have been fitted with the full 32KB rom straight out of the box on all of them they would have set it to the maximum :P (see the default size set by the kernal was made so that it does not slurp up too much ram, not because the chip cannot do more ;) so no the vic is not a 22 character chip. and no the vic-20 is not a 22 character computer. as those registers are simply exposed and can be set to whatever the programmer wants them to be (even if some configurations result in half the text ending up somewhere under the border... it will not go up to 40 wide :P
you can't do that on a ppu, ted, vic-II, etc. those are just '1 or 2 configurations and deal with it' (only at most, hiding the characters at the edge of the border, making it 2 smaller)... you can do such things with a 6(5|8)45 (not on the PET series as the registeres needed are not mapped into cpu address space ;)
the vic-1 is a far more 'universal' display controller than the vic-II :P and all of it is accessible and configurable in the vic-20. including things like display size and dual scan etc, double sized characters, the works.
The VIC-20 manual is probably the best guide to ever come with a computer. It's even better than the Commodore 64's. Even though the C64 used the same BASIC, they had to edit some things out to fit VIC-II and SID programming into the manual.
Not at all. This is the condition it was in when I received it. It's clean, but there are scratches and such on the bottom of the case. Also, if you watch closely when I open the case, the one 6522 failed and has been replaced. I had the working one in there when I opened the case but I replaced it with the original non-working one for the close-up photo that I used for the tour of the board.
Not sure if you played Donkey Kong, but it is the first time I actually saw what the game is about and what needs to be done. Never cared much about the NES or Arcade game.
Hi Gerard! Yeah, if you scroll through the comments you’ll see a bunch of folks who mentioned the pop filter. Duly noted, I will attempt to improve my voice recording technique.
Yeah, I’ve played some Donkey Kong over the years! When I was a kid, the DK arcade graphics were stunning, and the first time I saw the ColecoVision home version I was amazed. The VIC version you see in this video is fairly well done. I’ve put in quite a few hours playing it.
That's correct. Obviously there were board variations throughout the years, but from a functional perspective a VIC-1001 and a VIC-20 are identical other than the character ROM and the keyboard, since the katakana chars were printed on the front of the keycaps instead of PETSCII. You can see this near the beginning of the video.
My first VIC-20, purchased in the US, had a temperature issue where the regular Latin characters would shimmer/twinkle a bit and then transform into Japanese characters. It happened after 10 minutes of use. Cool it off and then it goes back to Latin. I never knew why. After this video, there might be possible answers in how the ROM was produced. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My 2nd VIC worked like a champ.
Wow! I'm guessing you don't still have that one? The earliest VIC-20s were made in Japan by Shinwa Electric Company and then later also by Japanese Cash Register - the same company who assembled the initial VIC-1001s. I guess it's not impossible that your board ended up being stuffed with the VIC-1001 character ROM instead of the VIC-20 one.
It does look like that but if you pause and zoom in, the screws are there. The screw heads are dark and don’t show up well. If you pause just before on the still photo that shows the underside of the case you can also tell. I assure you I’m not sophisticated enough to be trying any movie special effects on you :)
Hi Comatron! Thanks for the feedback. You're the third person now to mention the popping. I'm using a reasonably high quality Shure MV7 mic but clearly doing something wrong. I'll try to figure that out.
there is nothing to say, a perfect video and the value of a historical documentary in all respects, for us Commodore Computer lovers. Here in Italy there was a controversy about which was the first motherboard mounted on the vic20, I tried to explain the matter with a video of mine, but my skill will never be like yours! I would be immensely honored: ruclips.net/video/_S8ZmoUTZ7U/видео.html I don't think YT's translator is able to understand my dialect, he transforms everything into comic phrases: D
Thank god you use a proper hand screwdriver. I Wince every time I see you tubers using drills to unscrew screws. I had some exacting engineering training and education in the 1980s and feel that moveable spanners and using drills to screw are totally wrong and I often put my foot through the Screen and send the offender the bill. Regards..
Metal screws in 40 year old plastic threads are about as fragile as you can get. I’m exceptionally careful to not damage the threads upon removal or reinsertion.
Wichsen is a bad name for a product. Also Fick is not that great in German speaking countries. So Commodore named the Computer VC20 there. In shops it was told that VC 20 means Volkscomputer 20. This was associated with the Volkswagen Beetle. A car for everyone, a computer for everyone.
Jack Tramiel was a polish Jew. During WW2 he was a prisoner in the concentration camp Auschwitz. Perhaps he was forced there to learn German and so he did now those junk words...... I am just guessing.
The founders of MOS Technology were very insistent on sounding out the letters “M.O.S” instead of calling themselves “moss” so nobody would confuse them with Mostek, who was a competitor at the time.
You know the the word "vixen" could read as "Wix3n" in german language which means "w@nking" or "j@ck 0ff"? :) (replace "3" by "e", "@" by "a" and '0' by 'o')
They also changed the name VIC to VC, because VIC sounds like F@ck in German. Marketing invented VC for Volks-Computer (like Volkswagen) = Peoples-Computer.
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Nice to see the machine up close, and thanks for the history lesson. Nice playing on Donkey Kong too!
The Vic-20 manual was easily the BEST computer manual for beginners I had ever read. Great job, Neil !!
Good stuff! Always nice to hear more details about the history of the beloved VIC.
Great history-lesson, Dave. Keep up your great work!
Great Video! Your historical account was accurate. Lots of good photos from Feagan's too. I still have a working VIC20 I got at a Flea Market. Keep up the good work. I will subscribe too.
Bill, you made my day. Thank you so much for watching and for taking the time to comment!
Quite interesting and informative. The Vic-20 was the first computer I owned (many years ago) and I still fond memories of it. It's great to see more of the history behind it as presented in this video. Keep up the great work!
Same here 😄 PET 2001 (with tiny keyboard and built-in cassette) in high school was the first computer I ever saw/used, I got a VIC-20 for use at home and then a CBM-64. Happy days!
I always know that when I see you publish a new episode it's going to be worth my immediate attention
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Great video, and interesting to hear more about the Japanese history involved. I never had a VIC-20 but my cousin did. And in recent years I have been enjoying the new homebrew games for the VIC.
Thank you for watching, Andrew!
First computer I ever used was a Vic-20 when I was 4. Amazing how far we have come.
I had a Vic 20 that I used for target practice.
Thanks, that was a very informative and accurate video about the birth of the VIC-20/VIC-1001.
Thanks for sharing the details! Learned a lot and well presented.
Thanks for the kind words, Dave. I appreciate you watching!
Really nice video explaining the origin of this VIC computer, thanks for making it! I didn't know about it and watched the whole video to learn more. Just a small point, but recommend another MIC as yours was popping a bit.
Thanks Graham! Yeah, several other folks have mentioned the popping. I'll need to figure that out and hopefully find a solution.
@@commodorehistory I would suggest a using pop filter in front of your mic and/or maybe 1-2 inches more distance between the mic and your mouth :) Doesn't have to be a new mic... And also, if possible you can tweak it a little with an EQ in the post production process - low cut at around 100-150Hz.
It also sounds like you are using AGC - automatic gain control. If possible, you might wanna try switching it off and rather adjust the gain manually. You can really hear the AGC kicking in...
@@katho8472 I don’t know what most of this means yet, but I will follow up on all of your suggestions and learn. Much appreciated!
I like how much mileage Commodore got out of their design. I mean, with minor differences, on the lower half, the C64 and VIC cases were the same, the keyboards were the same, both machines could use all the same peripherals, etc. I do wish they'd taken the extra time and perfected the IEC protocols so that they didn't have to handicap the speed of the floppy drive though.
I did a couple other videos about IEC protocol you might be interested in. One was implementing it on a KIM-1 single board computer so I can load and save to a 1541 drive from a KIM-1. The other was examining the IEC protocol in a logic analyzer and walking through it. Thanks for taking the time to watch this video and provide thoughtful feedback!
Hi Dave! You did a fantastic video🤩! I'm glad that my VIC1001 has now become "famous", it could not have gone into better hands (I'm Carlo Santagostino, currently ARCHEOLOGIA INFORMATICA is my youtube channel 😉). I can't wait to see the "part two" video!
Ciao Carlo! Siamo in 2 dall'Italia che ci gustiamo questi video dall'alto valore storico!
feci un video sulla mia collezione di vic20 dove spiego le varie differenze che si possono trovare su queste macchine, ma è tutto basato su quello che ho potuto osservare direttamente dai miei pezzi e su quello che ho capito dai vari video qui su YT. Mi piacerebbe che mi dessi un parere a riguardo!
Nice video. That was a good historical lesson of things I did not know!
The first computer I owned was the Sinclair ZX80 😊 It had 1k memory and the first program I wrote on it was a " Guess the number Higher or Lower " and I had to truncate the string variables to get it to fit in the 1k memory available 😊
Great memories! I didn't have a VIC-20 as a kid but a friend did. We tried writing a text adventure in BASIC using if/then statements. We didn't get very far before we ran out of memory :)
@@commodorehistory I had ZX80 then the ZX81 then the C64 then the Dragon32 then the Spectrum 48k and then 128k then the cpc464 then the Toshiba HX10 MSX then the Amiga 500 then the A1200 then PC 🙂
I'm 16:22 late for bed but it was so worth it. Thanks for another great video!
Hahah, you're not kidding around with your little collection there!
There’s a whole lot of Commodore love in that room :)
Just a point, we had them in New Zealand at Kings Prep School science lab in 1978 its the key to the hack on the Pentagon in 79
nice to see so many ic's in sockets :)
Especially since this machine had two dead chips. The previous owner was able to replace them without needing to take a soldering iron to the board. He retained the original chips and sent them to me along with the computer.
the ieee488 connectors weren't as much 'too expensive'... they simply could not get enough of them at some point. supply shortage triggered moving that to the din serial version.
Interview with John Feagans: www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/cbm/vic/feagans.html
“the main reason we went to the serial cable was connector size and cost.”
I have always thought that the "1001" probably came from the start location of BASIC ($1001) on the unexpanded/+3K machine.
The Tony Tokai story was recently confirmed by Michael Tomczyk in the Commodore International Historical Society Facebook group.
I leaned something interesting today - thank you! 👍
You're welcome! Thanks for watching :)
I may be biased, but i really love the Foxes drawn in the advertisement drafts 🦊
Would have loved if the Vixen branding stuck around, no valid reasoning behind it other than i just really like Foxes ahahah
I'm not convinced this was the _best_ title for this video, but it's what got me to click on it, and I'm glad I did. There's been conflicting information on whether Commodore had any concrete plans for the "Vixen" branding or if (as Wikipedia currently suggests) it was just an internal codename. So it's good to finally see that cleared up with some real pictures of the marketing mockups behind it! Where did you find that stuff, anyway? It'd be nice to have those pictures archived somewhere.
I've also been playing around with VIC-1001 mode in VICE, to see if I can get a clear dump of all the PETSCII katakana characters, and I'm realizing I'm not sure how it actually works and that there is something seriously wrong with VICE's mapping. The photo of the keyboard says that holding down shift and typing QWERTY should get me "タテイスカン", for example, but it actually types what looks like "ムラメヤル". Completely random! So I guess I'm going to have to join their dumb mailing list just so I can talk to them because apparently it's 1991 and things like GitHub and forums haven't been invented yet.
Hi Pocket Fluff, thank you for the kind words. Apologies if the title was deceptive, but rest assured it was never intended to be clickbait. If you look at all my other video titles, I really do try to be as accurate as possible and I've staunchly avoided using "YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED NEXT!" titles. In this case, I didn't want to say VIC-1001 or VIC-20 history since it's really about both, and I didn't want to just use VIC history because I wanted folks to know it was about the computers and not the chip.
The Vixen marketing mockups came from Michael Tomczyk. If you visit my website there's a link to all the documents I've archived on there. I don't know if the Vixen ones are archived yet, but everything I have eventually ends up on the Internet Archive for preservation.
Good luck in your Katakana quest!
Video di altissimo valore!
Nice machine!
Interesting that they initially called the VIC 20 that. Like in Europe calling it the VC 20.
Indeed. I actually showed a vc-20 in the video but didn't talk about it. I'm planning to do a part two that goes into marketing, manufacturing, sales numbers, the VIC Commandos, etc. I'll cover the VC-20 in that video.
Only in Germany VC-20.
IIRC in Germany they renamed it VC-20 because "Vics" sounds a bit like "Wichser" (pron. like Fixer) which means "wanker" or "jerk off"...
Where did the second picture of Yannes' micropet come from?
It’s a Polaroid photo that was taken by John Feagans in the parking lot of the Moorpark R&D lab.
@@commodorehistory Well what I mean is what site did come from?
it is -not- a 22 column chip. columns and border offsets are reconfigurable (up to 28 or so visible). it is only set to 22 when implemented in a (non expanded) vic-20, cuz that saves ram space
Pretty sure the people who designed it were aware of that. They still started work on a 40 column chip instead of using the VIC.
@@commodorehistory yes. still, the vic(-1) chip does not have a fixed display size like the ted and vic-II do have. and i'm sure that if that box would have been fitted with the full 32KB rom straight out of the box on all of them they would have set it to the maximum :P (see the default size set by the kernal was made so that it does not slurp up too much ram, not because the chip cannot do more ;) so no the vic is not a 22 character chip. and no the vic-20 is not a 22 character computer. as those registers are simply exposed and can be set to whatever the programmer wants them to be (even if some configurations result in half the text ending up somewhere under the border... it will not go up to 40 wide :P
you can't do that on a ppu, ted, vic-II, etc. those are just '1 or 2 configurations and deal with it' (only at most, hiding the characters at the edge of the border, making it 2 smaller)... you can do such things with a 6(5|8)45 (not on the PET series as the registeres needed are not mapped into cpu address space ;)
the vic-1 is a far more 'universal' display controller than the vic-II :P and all of it is accessible and configurable in the vic-20. including things like display size and dual scan etc, double sized characters, the works.
The VIC-20 manual is probably the best guide to ever come with a computer. It's even better than the Commodore 64's. Even though the C64 used the same BASIC, they had to edit some things out to fit VIC-II and SID programming into the manual.
Hi Del! Totally agree. I haven’t seen you around the FB group for quite a while. I hope you are well.
@@commodorehistory I'm still around, but been just lurking, mostly these days. Looking into streaming in the near future.
very cool
I had a Vic 20. Then got a 64! Finally a PC in the 90s
You’re among friends here :)
@@commodorehistory Thanks!
so where is the AMIGA ?
Holy cow that vic 1001 is super clean! Did you restore it?
Not at all. This is the condition it was in when I received it. It's clean, but there are scratches and such on the bottom of the case. Also, if you watch closely when I open the case, the one 6522 failed and has been replaced. I had the working one in there when I opened the case but I replaced it with the original non-working one for the close-up photo that I used for the tour of the board.
You voice was much clearer in the intro. It was muffled and quiet at 0:51.
Duly noted. I’ll try to improve on my voice recording techniques. Being honest, it’s not an area I’m knowledgeable about, so hopefully I can learn.
@@commodorehistory It's tough. Even pros don't to seem to get it right at times.
Interesting information... but a small suggestion: get a pop-filter for your microphone; around 9:15 the sound is very 'plosive'.
Not sure if you played Donkey Kong, but it is the first time I actually saw what the game is about and what needs to be done. Never cared much about the NES or Arcade game.
Hi Gerard! Yeah, if you scroll through the comments you’ll see a bunch of folks who mentioned the pop filter. Duly noted, I will attempt to improve my voice recording technique.
Yeah, I’ve played some Donkey Kong over the years! When I was a kid, the DK arcade graphics were stunning, and the first time I saw the ColecoVision home version I was amazed. The VIC version you see in this video is fairly well done. I’ve put in quite a few hours playing it.
I wish I had not tossed my Vic-20 and all its outdated accessories. It was so much fun.
So the vic-1001 is a vic-20 with a different character rom?
That's correct. Obviously there were board variations throughout the years, but from a functional perspective a VIC-1001 and a VIC-20 are identical other than the character ROM and the keyboard, since the katakana chars were printed on the front of the keycaps instead of PETSCII. You can see this near the beginning of the video.
Very accurate!
Thank you for your contributions, Roberto!
whats an electronic vic (tion)
e-vic :)
My first VIC-20, purchased in the US, had a temperature issue where the regular Latin characters would shimmer/twinkle a bit and then transform into Japanese characters. It happened after 10 minutes of use. Cool it off and then it goes back to Latin. I never knew why. After this video, there might be possible answers in how the ROM was produced. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My 2nd VIC worked like a champ.
Wow! I'm guessing you don't still have that one? The earliest VIC-20s were made in Japan by Shinwa Electric Company and then later also by Japanese Cash Register - the same company who assembled the initial VIC-1001s. I guess it's not impossible that your board ended up being stuffed with the VIC-1001 character ROM instead of the VIC-20 one.
When you turn it around it has no screws in it. And then you start removing the screws that wasn’t there;) Anyway great video! 😃
It does look like that but if you pause and zoom in, the screws are there. The screw heads are dark and don’t show up well. If you pause just before on the still photo that shows the underside of the case you can also tell. I assure you I’m not sophisticated enough to be trying any movie special effects on you :)
The algorithm strikes again!
I don't know what this means.
great video! but plz upgrade your mic - pop pop :P thumbs up anyway
Hi Comatron! Thanks for the feedback. You're the third person now to mention the popping. I'm using a reasonably high quality Shure MV7 mic but clearly doing something wrong. I'll try to figure that out.
Dont you know all 8 bit computers have to be opened on a tea towel?
there is nothing to say, a perfect video and the value of a historical documentary in all respects, for us Commodore Computer lovers. Here in Italy there was a controversy about which was the first motherboard mounted on the vic20, I tried to explain the matter with a video of mine, but my skill will never be like yours! I would be immensely honored: ruclips.net/video/_S8ZmoUTZ7U/видео.html
I don't think YT's translator is able to understand my dialect, he transforms everything into comic phrases: D
The subtitles were close enough for me to follow along. That's a great VIC-20 collection you have!
@@commodorehistory thank you very much for answering me!
Thank god you use a proper hand screwdriver. I Wince every time I see you tubers using drills to unscrew screws. I had some exacting engineering training and education in the 1980s and feel that moveable spanners and using drills to screw are totally wrong and I often put my foot through the Screen and send the offender the bill. Regards..
Metal screws in 40 year old plastic threads are about as fragile as you can get. I’m exceptionally careful to not damage the threads upon removal or reinsertion.
Wichsen is a bad name for a product. Also Fick is not that great in German speaking countries. So Commodore named the Computer VC20 there. In shops it was told that VC 20 means Volkscomputer 20. This was associated with the Volkswagen Beetle. A car for everyone, a computer for everyone.
Jack Tramiel was a polish Jew. During WW2 he was a prisoner in the concentration camp Auschwitz. Perhaps he was forced there to learn German and so he did now those junk words...... I am just guessing.
I wonder if just literally translating the name and branding it the Füchsin would have been better... or does that also have unfortunate connotations?
22 column was weak;)
Decent enough for games, but yeah, anything text-intensive gets really impractical really fast.
MOS - "moss"
The founders of MOS Technology were very insistent on sounding out the letters “M.O.S” instead of calling themselves “moss” so nobody would confuse them with Mostek, who was a competitor at the time.
Germany: don't call it VIC please
C= We could name it VIXEN
HELL NO
You know the the word "vixen" could read as "Wix3n" in german language which means "w@nking" or "j@ck 0ff"? :) (replace "3" by "e", "@" by "a" and '0' by 'o')
Hah!! I had no idea. That hilarious!
They also changed the name VIC to VC, because VIC sounds like F@ck in German. Marketing invented VC for Volks-Computer (like Volkswagen) = Peoples-Computer.
Yes, and VIC=FICK=F*CK
That’s a commadoor n64