I don't think that it's wrong per say. Obviously you're hurt and you want to keep the ring but idk how they're family/ culture works. I hope all goes well
No, she’s in the wrong. It’s a heirloom? But if if it’s what the husband would’ve wanted her to have it then it’s understandable but, the girls wrong fr
@@Certified_Cowboyzbut her husband died and as the video says it was a symbol of their marriage. So If she wants to keep it a little longer then that is ok (she said she might give it to him) and it is technically hers because her husband gave it to her. So yeah.
i totally understand your feelings I've been in a situation similar to this. i think you should return the ring soon to his family and give your blessing to the brothers wife. as this ring been past on generation after generation it can past on from brother to another brother. i do understand that this ring symbolize a part of your boyfriend and its precious to your heart but don't forget they lost a son they lost a brother a member of their family too and they also need a symbol that defined him as the ring defined other past members of his family. Also one day you will have your own family you will belong to another man and his family . i think your late boyfriend will appreciate giving the ring as a wedding blessing for his brother
not to be rude, but even though it’s like giving a blessing to someone because it’s their brother, but imagine you barely got married for three years and your husband dies she can have the ring but even though she has the ring it’s not like it’s the only remaining thing ofthat everyone else has because their family so they have more memories. They have a lot of things that he owned so I feel like it might be a little selfish for them to take it from her even though it’s like family.
I'll say this, logistically she is in the right to keep the ring since it was given to her, and something that is given cant be taken back without the approval of giftee and the gifted. Morally, she can be seen as wrong since it was a ring passed down in the family. Legally, the family has no rights to the ring.
An engagement ring belongs to the husband untill the wedding. It is a gift given in promise of a marriage. Its a simple contracts case... The contract was broken before the wedding hence the ring still belongs to the man. Many many engagement rings have had to go back to the man when the wedding is called off... This is no diffrent.. only after the wedding does the ownership of the ring go to the wife..
@@carolyngeniesse8610 Honest question, because I'm curious. In this case, the promise of marriage wasnt broken on the side of the bride, but in this case the side of the side of the family. I know I'm very outdated and slightly sexist in my referance, but usually a dowry (the ring in this case) is given to pay for the bride. So since, the promise of marriage was broken, shouldnt the bride bid be kept because usually the bride price is kept even if the engagement is broken. Although, I know palimoney is a caveat in my rebuttal, I also just dont know if thats outdated or not either.
@@Tourniquet604 no.. in american law the ring goes back to the mans family . It dosnt make any difference who or why the contract was disolved. Besides it is a family heirloom and really should stay in their family. I think a good compromise would be to have the family make her a duplicate ring to give her so she can still have her memories and the family can have their heirloom back....
Plus if he died without a will all of his belongings goes to his mother period that's legally. Technically the ring is still his so she need to give that back.
Hmmm, I'm divided with this... it's a family heirloom... it was given to you when you were supposed to be a part of their family. Same as if you had a child, he would have given it to his future wife, therefore it's just a loaned jewelry? 🤔 but if you get married one day, would you still keep this ring? My guess would be no, because if you did, your husband would think that you're still not completely his wife? If you do wear it, it would be just an ordinary ring for you, it would lose its meaning. If they are asking for it, give it back and free yourself on the process. After all, your memories is more important than the material representation of your time together.
@N. A. I was going to say the same exact thing. She will be getting married in the future and then the ring will no longer have the same meeting even though she will probably always love him.
I agree... it should be given back.... eventually you will find happiness again with another person.... besides one thing no one could ask you for is your memories.... those are more precious.
I agree with the dead fiance's mom. It'd be different if he bought the ring from a store and gave it to her. But when it's been in the family for generations that's a whole different Can of worms. His family could have handled it better. But then again his brother did come over and talk to her he didn't demand it didn't send nasty text none of that
Yes it's wrong to keep the ring. It's a family ring an heirloom and something that holds memories and value that no money can buy to the people who are asking for it. know that it means so much more to them than it does to you- return it and buy your own ring to start your own family tradition.
I understand wanting to keep it and usually when you are in someone’s life they long they consider you family, so them saying that was harsh, but I do get them wanting it back! The timing it definitely not right but I agree with them, he proposed with it expecting you to to be married and stay together and the ring to stay in the family, and the mother is right you will move on and it’s not very fair for you to pass it down to your children with someone else. If you guys had kids together then I would say you could keep it, but if you don’t then you should give it back, because as much as that ring means to you it means even more to them, especially his mother. I completely understand wanting it because what it means to you, but not giving it back at some point is definitely messed up. You should have just told them that you understand why they would want it back and that you’ve been wearing it for a long time and it’s a symbol of your love and you don’t feel comfortable letting it go until you’ve got yourself together and are ready to start dating.
But she did say that. She specifically said "I'm not quite ready to give it up" implying that one day she would be ready. And besides, isn't high key disrespectful to your dead son to harass the woman he loved for 12 years the moment he dies?
I would say give it back because your memories are more precious! The mother lost a son that day and she still has another son she can at least see the family heirlooms be passed on once more. I dont think the family is in the wrong.
I understand how you feel but give back the ring. She lost her son too you'll move on one day and she won't. His brother is as dear to her as your boyfriend. Give the ring back even if it's still too early. You were not his wife. some people think it makes no difference but it does , and I'm sure he would appreciate your sacrifice to accommodate his mom and brother.
I don't think your wrong but I wouldn't want to keep a family heirloom, maybe if you just explain that when your ready to part with it you will give it back but for now you are grieving to. I think if she hears you say you will give it back later she may feel better knowing it will come back to the family. I hope everything works out.
Because she is showing frustration...lol. Then when you see her melting " vital organs" you know she has had enough. I love watching her do this and love her story telling.
I'm sorry Sweetie, that you lost your fiance and tragically. The fact that is a family heirloom, should tell you the significance that it holds. If you had been married and had children would be a totally different story. The heirloom should be returned to the family. Hold on to your memories and move on, as hard as that is going to be.
She has a right to keep the ring but if she doesn’t plan on ever parting with the ring I think she should set something up like in her will or something so it can be returned to the family one day.
Keep it until you stop visiting his grave. 12 years is a long time to be with someone. And you were engaged for three years. Sounds to me he wasn’t gonna change his mind about you and that in gods eyes you are his wife. (Edit: where I live, if you and your partner have lived together for 5/7 years, you are considered married, my aunt just a couple months ago got a legal divorce from a man she never married) His family is disrespectful and I’m sure he’s looking down on them with a frown.
Tradition is tradition how would you feel if some person kept your family possession that's been through decades of time and now its your turn to be apart of the tradition but that person ruined your chances and its not that they will give it back there straight up keeping it You don't have to answer I will for you and don't try to lie because by human nature we are very territorial meaning with our thing and our space we get mad if someone interferes so that being said along with it being important you would be mad so hlthe family is justified because of human nature and she is being an asshole
@@DontWorryIamTheStrongest My guess is it is incredibly inconsiderate of the brother, not the woman. Everyone should at least let her breathe and move forward from losing her life partner than forcing her into a worse off situation. She is no way in hell being territorial. Of course the ring is a family heirloom and she respects that, but as stared, it was a symbol of love between her and her late fiancè. She's not ready. She needs more time. I mean saying maybe give her a couple years at least, have they even had an unveiling yet? Like come on?? If I had any respect and love for my sibling-in-laws, I will give them all the time they need, because we have the time. What we shouldn't have is lack of compassion. She was robbed of her love, she needs support. The ring will come back where it belongs once more once her heart is no longer this empty vpid of what it once was. Where she is no longer an empty shell of what she once was.
@@DontWorryIamTheStrongest IF MY FAMILY AGREED TO GIVE IT TO THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE, then I’d TRUST that decision we made! And I said until she stops visiting his grave. She’s not gonna do that much when she moves on. And my family wouldn’t just cut off my hubby because I died. I brought my husband INTO MY FAMILY. So therefore he’s family rather I am alive or not. When love is conditional, it is selfish. And on top of that, I would HATE to be the new girl who received the ring. It’d be like “oh thanks for my dead brother in laws now ex fiancé’s ring, how lovely.✨” How about read before coming at me? 💁♀️ I didn’t say keep it forever.🖕🏻🖕🏻 it’s 12 fucking years. That might not mean shit to your bitter ass, but it meant something to the DEAD BROTHER. If they can’t give her time to grieve, and time to part with the ring that she wore for the last three years. Brother is up there wishing he just got her a new ring. There’s no way he’s up happy about how his family is treating the girl he wanted to grow old with. And if you pay better attention to the video, she said that they were high school sweethearts and that they were together for TWELVE years (my husband and I have only been together 5 and we have a daughter too, time makes a marriage, not a paper. ) and engaged for three. Yet she didn’t mention how long it’s been since he passed, which to me indicates that it was recent. How are you gonna ask someone who lost their entire future, to give up the one thing that bonded their hearts. The ring. AGAIN, I’m not saying forever! But give the girl at least a couple months? That’s pathetic and as someone who has received family heirlooms, I’d never okay giving one to someone and then take it back right when my kid dies, to give it to my other kids girlfriend. And to just drop someone who’s been around for twelve years after they’ve done nothing wrong, is despicable. If you disagree, then go comment on something you do agree on. I didn’t come here to talk to you. Clearly my comment was towards the family if they ever read it. You, aren’t someone that I’m going to see in life or anything. My comments DONT AFFECT YOU OR APPLY TO YOU. So instead of being problematic, go have a conversation that is actually enjoyable. Cause trust me, explaining myself to a stranger Isnt enjoyable. I have my reasons and you have yours. Unless your asking me my reasons then buzz off. In my opinion everyone who isn’t considering the woman who lost the man she thought she was going to have for the rest of her life, isn’t only inconsiderate in my opinion but they are bitter and cruel. Have you ever been engaged or married? What if your partner of twelve years died and his whole family tuned on you right after? Would you be happy to give up the ring they gave as a sign of their love so soon? Heirloom or not, she deserves time. If you can’t give a grieving fiancé time to heal, then I cannot respect you. If I were to disagree with a comment you posted that wasn’t directed to me, I’d try to understand why they felt that way instead of just trying to change their mind. That’s toxic and manipulative and I don’t think I’d enjoy you as a person and I am sure you feel the same way. So how about you just get on your way instead of being a negative spam? 👋🏻
@@r0xdab0x96xo THANK YOU, someone with common sense and a heart!✨💕 And it’s not like I said keep it forever. Like how entitled can that Phoenix person be? “I’ll answer for you” Bitter, controlling, manipulative, and probably very lonely. Based on the ONE comment, I wouldn’t go 50 ft near the dude. What a joke. SERIOUSLY. The fucking audacityyyyy.☝🏻😏
@@nunyuh111 Been with my husband almost 10 years, friends for 15, married for 7. Highschool sweethearts as well. I highly doubt my in-laws and his family would give me greif but just imagining it, the idea of it would probably break my heart just as much as losing him. I won't even know how to cope let alone dealing with that idea of negativity. It's been three years since I have lost two very close friends I have known just a little longer than my husband. I am only now just coming to terms with their absence, and they were just really cool friends. I remember once being asked to give something up that they had gifted to me because "such and such' deserved it more, not even a month after they passed away. The audacity, but mostly, the hurt. I still feel very betrayed, disrespected and misunderstood that it was even considered. If it was for their family, sure, but instead it was for one of the ex's that one of the friends had been toxicly separated from for 3 years. No? What the even? It was a gift to "me" from both if them. I'ld hate to imagine how I would react losing my husband if this is how cut up I am over my late friends. I can't even imagine what kind of shell someone could be to be in the same situation this poor woman is in. She isn't even allowed to be called a widow but what she had was more real then ever and it doesn't feel like that is being honored or respected. I could never put that kind of pain onto my sibling-in-laws.
No your not completely wrong. You said you’d give up the ring once your done grieving for your dead fiancé. The fact his brother came to you after a few weeks for the ring is wrong and it suspicious as if he didn’t care his brother and just wanted the ring. I feel you should be able to keep the ring till your ready to part with it your deceased fiancé gave to you in the first so of course it’s going to be hard passing it onz
An engagement ring is a gift given in anticipation of a marriage. Did the marriage occur ? Always do the right thing. In 5 - 10 years you will regret you didn't. How would you feel if you were the brother ?
I don't think she is the "asshole" but she is kind of in the wrong for not passing the ring, I understand she is hurt and grieving but she was engaged not married so she should give the ring back but at her own time. However the mother and son shouldn't be pressure her into giving it especially not now, not when she is still grieving the loss of the love of her life. It's wrong, she stated that she would give it back in a few years so let it be.... This family is so insensitive 🙄
@@shlokaashetty6577ok but the brother is getting married to this girl, yes it her way of recovering but she was never married and it is there family ring, yes I do think it’s wrong for them saying she’s stealing from them but the brother is getting married and they might not have years, think of it as this: she’s getting married and her brothers girlfriend has the ring, your brother dies(sad) and you want the ring for the marry and your brother’s girlfriend does not want to give in to you because it was given to her, no I don’t think she is a assho!3 but it’s their family ring and technical saying she does not have the right to keep it for 3 years because it’s not her ring…( this is just how I think again I understand her boyfriend just died and I don’t want to argue!)
My guess is it is incredibly inconsiderate of the brother and family, not the woman. Everyone should at least let her breathe and move forward from losing her life partner than forcing her into a worse off situation. Of course the ring is a family heirloom and she respects that, but as stated, it was a symbol of love between her and her late fiancè. She's not ready. She needs more time. I mean saying maybe give her a couple years at least, have they even had an unveiling yet? Like come on?? If I had any respect and love for my sibling-in-laws, I will give them all the time they need, because we have the time. I wouldn't even consider taking their ring back because it is rightfully theirs until they no longer need it. What we shouldn't have is lack of compassion. She was robbed of her love, she needs support. This situation is probably isolating her even further, not only losing her love but a part of her family she knew for over a damn decade. The ring will come back where it belongs once more. She is aware she must give it back and will be taking note. Once her heart is no longer this empty void of what it once was, where she is no longer an empty shell of what she once was, she will give it back. They just need to be patient.
They don’t HAVE to give her years or any span of time that ring is a family heirloom and she isn’t family so it isn’t hers,she’s lucky they let her keep as long as they have
@@rachelwoolbert9526 How can you say shes not family after growing up with them for over a decade? What because she doesn't have that fancy piece of paper you call a marriage certificate? It's not like she just rolled up into the family for only a year. Time is valuable, snd the amount of time she spent inside that family is worth something
@@r0xdab0x96xo she isn’t part of the family tho it doesn’t matter how long she was with them,she didn’t marry into it so that ring isn’t hers and she’s being a bitch for not giving it back to the people it actually belongs to
@@rachelwoolbert9526 she was gifted that ring. She didn't break off the engagement, her Fiance died. So technically the ring is hers now. It's out of her goodness if she returns it. They were stupid in 1st place for gifting it before marriage.
Please, for your own peace and your love for this young man, give it to his mother. Think about the memories she has with members of her family and how it must feel.
Just my opinion : You're not wrong to want to keep the ring. You've suffered a major loss of a person very very dear to you and you're not ready to move on just yet. I would say keep that ring until you're ready to move on. When you are, give it up.
You are absolutely wrong. When I got my husbands great-grandmother's ring I knew that had anything happened to us or him its the family's ring. Not personally mine. Thankfully that hasn't happened and it will be passed down to one of our children. That is the deal with all family heirlooms.
I think she is in the right, when your child marries someone they’re a part of the family now. I’ve seen relationships where the parent doesn’t like the partner but if you love your child you should be able to respect them and support them and the people they love. Now that the partner is a part of the family the parent should love them unconditionally and support them as a part of the family even if the son/daughter has passed. She and the mom should be bonding, they are women all women should support, respect, and love each other especially if they are family in any type of way.
Im sorry for your lost and i couldn't imagine how you feel. I also want to say this as nicely as i can...i know your torn and hurt, but i dont think the mom is wrong. Imagine how long that ring has been in there family, even though you said you would give it back im sure there worried you may not keep your word. NOT saying your untrustworthy, but grieving is a timely process you may never feel ready to give it back, and oviously life throws us curve balls. They could of been more sensative, but i think everyone deals with things differently. So , come up with a compromise. But please give it back thats there family's memories and heritage. Again i wish you the best and hope there is amazing new begginings in your future. Put yourself in there shoes, be the bigger person💚. And again I only know what you said in this 30 second clip. So, it's my opinion from that.
Please keep in mind this is my opinion, and the only information source I have is a 30 second long video explaining the situation. I think they should give it back to the family. Sure they are grieving but so is the family. Plus, it's a family heirloom. It's been in the family for generations upon generations. Even though I do agree the brother and mother were being pretty harsh, can we blame them?
Oh so, since my brother died, I don't suppose you would like, give me your ring of engagement, would you? I mean, your not actually in the family so... yeah, no big deal, right?..... what the hecc is this family's problem? So insensitive
I say give it back. Honestly she’s not technically family. She don’t have children that she can pass it on too. I would prefer to keep it in the family
As said, he GAVE you the ring.. Anyone else think that once a gift is given its rude to give it back under any circumstances (unless it's causing someone pain, like something they are allergic or sensitive to etc)
My "friend" thinks that if she gave me something, she can just take it Back from me because it's "still hers" Honestly, I don't give anything back, and our friendship it's going to be over soon, lol Like, she doesn't even respects me, I don't see a reason to keep being friends with her.
It’s not a simple gift. It’s ownership is based on the contract of marriage. Since they never married, the ring belongs to the man’s family. Also, it’s a family heirloom. It would be weird to take that out of their lineage. Her husband to be died, but their son died too.
Im sorry but I think you should give it back. An engagement ring is a gift in promise that you will marry him. If the wedding never took place the contract is broken and voided. Im looking at this from a legal point of view . The law says the ring goes back to the family. I can understand why they want it back because I have my family rings and if they got out of the family I would be crushed. They are family heirlooms and belong with his family. .just my opinion
Where do you live? That's not the law every where. Every one of the 50 states of the United States has different laws. That is just one country. I can't even imagine all the laws for all the regions of the world.
@@SBeth92 love your videos but you should at least give credit to the person who have you the story so people don't think that all these happened to you
Okay but what would his brother would've used if he was alive..? Like are you really about to snatch a ring from a widow, just include her in family functions and such and she'll feel like a part of the family and might even be open to giving it up
If it's a family thing and it is like a heirloom kinda thing your in the wrong but you might be hurting still and if that's the case keep it a bit longer but I would say if possible try to give it back
You have a long life in front of you. By returning the ring you can actually think forward. There is no right or wrong answer to this. But it’s their family tradition which for you I believe is your family too so give it back happily, however they do not consider you their family and you deserve better treatment and happiness in life so look forward to happiness and keep great memories and don’t let them ruin your memories over a ring. It’s not worth it.
Omg give them back their family ring! If they take you to court not only will you be embarrassed but you're going to have to give back their family ring anyway
Sorry for your loss, imagine the loss to his mom, she loss a son that she can never replaced or see again, please give back the ring, it’s a heirloom and belongs to the family
I mean I’m sorry for her truly but the mom is right in this situation. “I don’t feel like giving the ring up now” isn’t a good enough reason. If you were married it’ll be completely different but u weren’t and rightly so the ring does belong in that family. Just give it back...
I personally would give the ring back coz you weren’t married into the family. Since the ring was passed on as a tradition why don’t you give it back, keeping it is so tacky imo.
I can't believe everybody keeps saying that he was her husband. She did not marry him, she did not have children with him. Not married until you put a ring on it.
No I don't think your wrong. You want to keep a piece of something that your husband gave you. They need to take a breather and back off. They need to understand that your still hurt by your husband's passing. They need to be sympathetic. I'm on your side.
If I was the brother's fiance, would I want "that" ring? I'm just sayin'..... I wouldn't want to make you feel "torn" just so I could get engaged. Nope, I wouldnt. What would your finance want? He gave it to you for a reason..for a forevermore.
No, you should keep the girl don’t worry about what they say you’re on the right because just it was your loved and his mom should not treat you like that. You should be treated better. I’m glad you didn’t give up the ring❤
What an absolutely heartless thing to say to someone, “well because you didn’t technically get married, but we’re ‘’married’ in every sense of the word, you aren’t part of the family.” How fucking cruel.
now, as a woman, who's lost someone important to me, I'd rip apart anyone who tried to take a memory of that person away, especially one given to me by them... but as a sister and a daughter who knows what it's like to have someone steal valuables from my family.... that ring isn't yours, girl. suggest his family exchange some of his personal things so you can keep a memory of him and give the ring back. you won't have his kids to pass the ring to them. it's not right.
I'm sorry. But if it is a family heirloom, you need to give it back. My son gave my engagement ring to his fiancee. When they divorced 8 years later, she gave it back.
Yeah, but you know what else that ring represents? A family’s ENTIRE HISTORY OF LOVE. The sentimental value of that ring to her is paltry compared the sentimental value it holds to the late fiancé’s family. While the way the family went about getting it back was definitely wrong, she would also be in the wrong if she were to keep the ring (which she suggested she wouldn’t). She should be allowed to return the ring in her own time, or maybe bargain with to family to make a nice compromise, but just because it was a symbol of her love with her fiancé doesn’t give her the right to keep the ring forever. It was also a symbol of the mother’s love with her husband, and it will be a symbol of the brother’s love with his girlfriend, her love shouldn’t be the only one that matters in this scenario.
The right thing would be to give the ring back. It is a family heirloom and you are not now nor have you ever been a part of that family. He is gone. Return the ring and move forward.
It's a family heirloom it's meant to be passed down to their children and she never mentioned they had any so it would lose its meaning as an heirloom if she just kept it for herself
Yes, the ring belongs to the family not you. Imagine 1 year later: you found someone new what'll you do with ring then, keep in a box. You didn't even think of returning the ring back until the brother came forward. I understand that it means so much to you but that ring means a lot more to that family. You only lost BF, they lost brother, a son, friend.
It’s a half half situation, I understand where she’s coming from and they didn’t need to say such rude things to her, but also it is a family ring and someone had given up that ring for her in the first place
Yes, because it’s their family ring and they have been passing it down for generations, and you have nothing to do with that family anymore, but no, because you loved him and he gave it to you❤
Yeah but it's a family heirloom that is meant to be passed down. They never married so she's not a part of the family and therefore should give it back
I feel bad for her and obviously what they said was disrespectful but it’s a family heirloom if she doesn’t have a kid with him how is she meant to pass it down to the next generation and his bro also had a right to the ring is he not part of the family too
How can someone have a right to a thing that has already been given out. She is part of the family no matter what happens because they were married common law. So the ring is in the family where it belongs. If they were so into their family and keeping what's in the family actually IN the family, they would be bringing the widow closer supporting her and honoring her as the love of their son/brothers life.
I think she’s in the right bc she’s mourning and maybe that’s the only thing connecting her to her husband who’s passed. At least let her keep it for a few years until she’s ready to let it go. After all if her husband was still alive she would be keeping it anyways. They’re wrong for expecting her to give up such a meaningful thing after his passing.
I know your grieving but no I don't believe you should have the ring. You're not his wife you weren't married, he died for you got married. It family heirloom so I don't think you have any right to keep the ring. If I was the mother or the family I probably knock on your door or get a court order.
i see both sides, it is yours and they should respect you wanting to have that part of him with you. then again, it is their family and it makes sense for the brother to get the ring because it is his families artifact, but they can't just take it from you, especially if you have told them your side.😊
I mean, yeah, you CAN keep the ring, but it's an important part of their family heritage to pass that ring on, unless you already have a kid with your fiance it's kind of messed up to hold onto it and end generations of tradition. I'm sorry for your loss, but personally I think you should give it back
Yeah but this is a family heirloom she can't just " keep it cause it makes her happy ", if it was a regular engagement ring than yeah she can keep it as long as she wants but family heirlooms are for family.
@@hufflepuffler2575 it is an object, the importance it has, is not what others give to them, it is what you give it once it is in your hands. If this is a happy reminder of what her loved one gave to her; keep it as a happy reminder, but I absolutely understand the term family heirloom, it´s an object that has transcended time in the family members. If it was me, I would gladly return it to the family, cause...every time I would look at it, I would have the uncomfortable feeling that I removed an important family object, and I would know that their grandma is angry, mom is angry, borthers are angry, family is angry...for that kind of energy I would just give it back, knowing that returning will make a lot of people happy to have it back. Not because it is a family heirloom but because it would make them happy, it has more meaning to them and that should be respected.
That's a very tricky line. I don't think anyone is in the wrong. You just both have your different reasons. I feel like it's wrong they are treating you that way though and don't seem to care about you that you were their son's fiance. Seems like they never considered you part of the family to begin with if they have this big of a problem with it. I understand not ready to give up the ring YET, but I do sort of agree they would like to keep it in the family. It's a very delicate line to cross.
I understand how they both feel, it's her choice though at this point so she should give it back when she's ready and get an exact replica made of it for sentimental reasons!
I know it hurts... but u don't need a ring to keep him in ur heart...it's just material...I say give it to them...bcz u will be out of this...just think that ring gave you good memories and u don't want to make those memories fade away with this drama when u think of you and him and ring... ❤️
I don't think that it's wrong per say. Obviously you're hurt and you want to keep the ring but idk how they're family/ culture works. I hope all goes well
Per se.
No, she’s in the wrong.
It’s a heirloom? But if if it’s what the husband would’ve wanted her to have it then it’s understandable but, the girls wrong fr
@@Certified_Cowboyzbut her husband died and as the video says it was a symbol of their marriage. So If she wants to keep it a little longer then that is ok (she said she might give it to him) and it is technically hers because her husband gave it to her. So yeah.
i totally understand your feelings I've been in a situation similar to this. i think you should return the ring soon to his family and give your blessing to the brothers wife. as this ring been past on generation after generation it can past on from brother to another brother. i do understand that this ring symbolize a part of your boyfriend and its precious to your heart but don't forget they lost a son they lost a brother a member of their family too and they also need a symbol that defined him as the ring defined other past members of his family. Also one day you will have your own family you will belong to another man and his family . i think your late boyfriend will appreciate giving the ring as a wedding blessing for his brother
not to be rude, but even though it’s like giving a blessing to someone because it’s their brother, but imagine you barely got married for three years and your husband dies she can have the ring but even though she has the ring it’s not like it’s the only remaining thing ofthat everyone else has because their family so they have more memories. They have a lot of things that he owned so I feel like it might be a little selfish for them to take it from her even though it’s like family.
I'll say this, logistically she is in the right to keep the ring since it was given to her, and something that is given cant be taken back without the approval of giftee and the gifted. Morally, she can be seen as wrong since it was a ring passed down in the family. Legally, the family has no rights to the ring.
An engagement ring belongs to the husband untill the wedding. It is a gift given in promise of a marriage. Its a simple contracts case... The contract was broken before the wedding hence the ring still belongs to the man. Many many engagement rings have had to go back to the man when the wedding is called off... This is no diffrent.. only after the wedding does the ownership of the ring go to the wife..
@@carolyngeniesse8610 Honest question, because I'm curious. In this case, the promise of marriage wasnt broken on the side of the bride, but in this case the side of the side of the family. I know I'm very outdated and slightly sexist in my referance, but usually a dowry (the ring in this case) is given to pay for the bride. So since, the promise of marriage was broken, shouldnt the bride bid be kept because usually the bride price is kept even if the engagement is broken. Although, I know palimoney is a caveat in my rebuttal, I also just dont know if thats outdated or not either.
@@Tourniquet604 no.. in american law the ring goes back to the mans family . It dosnt make any difference who or why the contract was disolved. Besides it is a family heirloom and really should stay in their family. I think a good compromise would be to have the family make her a duplicate ring to give her so she can still have her memories and the family can have their heirloom back....
Legally the family has rights and can sue her. Plus the ring was a promise to marry and the marriage didn't happen so technically the ring isn't hers.
Plus if he died without a will all of his belongings goes to his mother period that's legally. Technically the ring is still his so she need to give that back.
Hmmm, I'm divided with this... it's a family heirloom... it was given to you when you were supposed to be a part of their family. Same as if you had a child, he would have given it to his future wife, therefore it's just a loaned jewelry? 🤔 but if you get married one day, would you still keep this ring? My guess would be no, because if you did, your husband would think that you're still not completely his wife? If you do wear it, it would be just an ordinary ring for you, it would lose its meaning. If they are asking for it, give it back and free yourself on the process. After all, your memories is more important than the material representation of your time together.
@N. A. I was going to say the same exact thing. She will be getting married in the future and then the ring will no longer have the same meeting even though she will probably always love him.
I agree... it should be given back.... eventually you will find happiness again with another person.... besides one thing no one could ask you for is your memories.... those are more precious.
Hmm I understand why she wants to keep the ring but it’s a family ring and it should stay in the family
She never married or had kids. Give the ring back. Don’t be insufferable and messed up.
I agree with the dead fiance's mom. It'd be different if he bought the ring from a store and gave it to her. But when it's been in the family for generations that's a whole different Can of worms. His family could have handled it better. But then again his brother did come over and talk to her he didn't demand it didn't send nasty text none of that
Yes it's wrong to keep the ring. It's a family ring an heirloom and something that holds memories and value that no money can buy to the people who are asking for it. know that it means so much more to them than it does to you- return it and buy your own ring to start your own family tradition.
I understand wanting to keep it and usually when you are in someone’s life they long they consider you family, so them saying that was harsh, but I do get them wanting it back! The timing it definitely not right but I agree with them, he proposed with it expecting you to to be married and stay together and the ring to stay in the family, and the mother is right you will move on and it’s not very fair for you to pass it down to your children with someone else. If you guys had kids together then I would say you could keep it, but if you don’t then you should give it back, because as much as that ring means to you it means even more to them, especially his mother. I completely understand wanting it because what it means to you, but not giving it back at some point is definitely messed up. You should have just told them that you understand why they would want it back and that you’ve been wearing it for a long time and it’s a symbol of your love and you don’t feel comfortable letting it go until you’ve got yourself together and are ready to start dating.
But she did say that. She specifically said "I'm not quite ready to give it up" implying that one day she would be ready. And besides, isn't high key disrespectful to your dead son to harass the woman he loved for 12 years the moment he dies?
I don’t know. You probably should have given it back. Sorry, but they lost a son and brother, too. The ring is important to them, too.
I would say give it back because your memories are more precious! The mother lost a son that day and she still has another son she can at least see the family heirlooms be passed on once more. I dont think the family is in the wrong.
I understand how you feel but give back the ring. She lost her son too you'll move on one day and she won't. His brother is as dear to her as your boyfriend. Give the ring back even if it's still too early. You were not his wife. some people think it makes no difference but it does , and I'm sure he would appreciate your sacrifice to accommodate his mom and brother.
I don't think your wrong but I wouldn't want to keep a family heirloom, maybe if you just explain that when your ready to part with it you will give it back but for now you are grieving to. I think if she hears you say you will give it back later she may feel better knowing it will come back to the family. I hope everything works out.
Why are you dumping the wax in so aggressively-
🤣🤣 so true!
Because she is showing frustration...lol. Then when you see her melting " vital organs" you know she has had enough. I love watching her do this and love her story telling.
It kinda looked like sushi after you threw all of the wax pieces into it lol
I'm sorry Sweetie, that you lost your fiance and tragically. The fact that is a family heirloom, should tell you the significance that it holds. If you had been married and had children would be a totally different story. The heirloom should be returned to the family. Hold on to your memories and move on, as hard as that is going to be.
They were together for 12 years. You can’t just “move on”.
She has a right to keep the ring but if she doesn’t plan on ever parting with the ring I think she should set something up like in her will or something so it can be returned to the family one day.
Although I feel sorry for the person who lost their partner, the ring should be returned
Keep it until you stop visiting his grave. 12 years is a long time to be with someone. And you were engaged for three years. Sounds to me he wasn’t gonna change his mind about you and that in gods eyes you are his wife. (Edit: where I live, if you and your partner have lived together for 5/7 years, you are considered married, my aunt just a couple months ago got a legal divorce from a man she never married)
His family is disrespectful and I’m sure he’s looking down on them with a frown.
Tradition is tradition how would you feel if some person kept your family possession that's been through decades of time and now its your turn to be apart of the tradition but that person ruined your chances and its not that they will give it back there straight up keeping it
You don't have to answer I will for you and don't try to lie because by human nature we are very territorial meaning with our thing and our space we get mad if someone interferes so that being said along with it being important you would be mad so hlthe family is justified because of human nature and she is being an asshole
@@DontWorryIamTheStrongest My guess is it is incredibly inconsiderate of the brother, not the woman. Everyone should at least let her breathe and move forward from losing her life partner than forcing her into a worse off situation. She is no way in hell being territorial. Of course the ring is a family heirloom and she respects that, but as stared, it was a symbol of love between her and her late fiancè. She's not ready. She needs more time. I mean saying maybe give her a couple years at least, have they even had an unveiling yet?
Like come on?? If I had any respect and love for my sibling-in-laws, I will give them all the time they need, because we have the time. What we shouldn't have is lack of compassion. She was robbed of her love, she needs support. The ring will come back where it belongs once more once her heart is no longer this empty vpid of what it once was. Where she is no longer an empty shell of what she once was.
@@DontWorryIamTheStrongest IF MY FAMILY AGREED TO GIVE IT TO THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE, then I’d TRUST that decision we made! And I said until she stops visiting his grave. She’s not gonna do that much when she moves on.
And my family wouldn’t just cut off my hubby because I died.
I brought my husband INTO MY FAMILY. So therefore he’s family rather I am alive or not.
When love is conditional, it is selfish.
And on top of that, I would HATE to be the new girl who received the ring.
It’d be like “oh thanks for my dead brother in laws now ex fiancé’s ring, how lovely.✨”
How about read before coming at me? 💁♀️
I didn’t say keep it forever.🖕🏻🖕🏻
it’s 12 fucking years. That might not mean shit to your bitter ass, but it meant something to the DEAD BROTHER. If they can’t give her time to grieve, and time to part with the ring that she wore for the last three years.
Brother is up there wishing he just got her a new ring. There’s no way he’s up happy about how his family is treating the girl he wanted to grow old with.
And if you pay better attention to the video, she said that they were high school sweethearts and that they were together for TWELVE years (my husband and I have only been together 5 and we have a daughter too, time makes a marriage, not a paper. ) and engaged for three. Yet she didn’t mention how long it’s been since he passed, which to me indicates that it was recent.
How are you gonna ask someone who lost their entire future, to give up the one thing that bonded their hearts.
The ring.
AGAIN, I’m not saying forever! But give the girl at least a couple months?
That’s pathetic and as someone who has received family heirlooms, I’d never okay giving one to someone and then take it back right when my kid dies, to give it to my other kids girlfriend.
And to just drop someone who’s been around for twelve years after they’ve done nothing wrong, is despicable.
If you disagree, then go comment on something you do agree on. I didn’t come here to talk to you. Clearly my comment was towards the family if they ever read it.
You, aren’t someone that I’m going to see in life or anything.
My comments DONT AFFECT YOU OR APPLY TO YOU.
So instead of being problematic, go have a conversation that is actually enjoyable.
Cause trust me, explaining myself to a stranger Isnt enjoyable.
I have my reasons and you have yours.
Unless your asking me my reasons then buzz off.
In my opinion everyone who isn’t considering the woman who lost the man she thought she was going to have for the rest of her life, isn’t only inconsiderate in my opinion but they are bitter and cruel.
Have you ever been engaged or married?
What if your partner of twelve years died and his whole family tuned on you right after? Would you be happy to give up the ring they gave as a sign of their love so soon?
Heirloom or not, she deserves time.
If you can’t give a grieving fiancé time to heal, then I cannot respect you.
If I were to disagree with a comment you posted that wasn’t directed to me, I’d try to understand why they felt that way instead of just trying to change their mind.
That’s toxic and manipulative and I don’t think I’d enjoy you as a person and I am sure you feel the same way.
So how about you just get on your way instead of being a negative spam? 👋🏻
@@r0xdab0x96xo THANK YOU, someone with common sense and a heart!✨💕
And it’s not like I said keep it forever.
Like how entitled can that Phoenix person be?
“I’ll answer for you”
Bitter, controlling, manipulative, and probably very lonely.
Based on the ONE comment, I wouldn’t go 50 ft near the dude.
What a joke. SERIOUSLY.
The fucking audacityyyyy.☝🏻😏
@@nunyuh111 Been with my husband almost 10 years, friends for 15, married for 7. Highschool sweethearts as well. I highly doubt my in-laws and his family would give me greif but just imagining it, the idea of it would probably break my heart just as much as losing him. I won't even know how to cope let alone dealing with that idea of negativity.
It's been three years since I have lost two very close friends I have known just a little longer than my husband. I am only now just coming to terms with their absence, and they were just really cool friends. I remember once being asked to give something up that they had gifted to me because "such and such' deserved it more, not even a month after they passed away. The audacity, but mostly, the hurt. I still feel very betrayed, disrespected and misunderstood that it was even considered. If it was for their family, sure, but instead it was for one of the ex's that one of the friends had been toxicly separated from for 3 years. No? What the even? It was a gift to "me" from both if them.
I'ld hate to imagine how I would react losing my husband if this is how cut up I am over my late friends. I can't even imagine what kind of shell someone could be to be in the same situation this poor woman is in. She isn't even allowed to be called a widow but what she had was more real then ever and it doesn't feel like that is being honored or respected.
I could never put that kind of pain onto my sibling-in-laws.
No your not completely wrong. You said you’d give up the ring once your done grieving for your dead fiancé. The fact his brother came to you after a few weeks for the ring is wrong and it suspicious as if he didn’t care his brother and just wanted the ring. I feel you should be able to keep the ring till your ready to part with it your deceased fiancé gave to you in the first so of course it’s going to be hard passing it onz
No she said she would consider it not that she would
An engagement ring is a gift given in anticipation of a marriage.
Did the marriage occur ?
Always do the right thing. In 5 - 10 years you will regret you didn't.
How would you feel if you were the brother ?
She mentioned she'd give it back later on, it's something to remind her of the man she loved. If it's true, I think shes in the right.
There's a fine line between morals and respect
I don't think she is the "asshole" but she is kind of in the wrong for not passing the ring, I understand she is hurt and grieving but she was engaged not married so she should give the ring back but at her own time. However the mother and son shouldn't be pressure her into giving it especially not now, not when she is still grieving the loss of the love of her life. It's wrong, she stated that she would give it back in a few years so let it be.... This family is so insensitive 🙄
They said it's been three years if I'm not mistaken
@@alwaysannoyedforever518 maybe but still. When one is grieving, the last thing you would want to do is pressure them. It's all about time
@@shlokaashetty6577ok but the brother is getting married to this girl, yes it her way of recovering but she was never married and it is there family ring, yes I do think it’s wrong for them saying she’s stealing from them but the brother is getting married and they might not have years, think of it as this: she’s getting married and her brothers girlfriend has the ring, your brother dies(sad) and you want the ring for the marry and your brother’s girlfriend does not want to give in to you because it was given to her, no I don’t think she is a assho!3 but it’s their family ring and technical saying she does not have the right to keep it for 3 years because it’s not her ring…( this is just how I think again I understand her boyfriend just died and I don’t want to argue!)
She is not in the wrong at all she’s still grieving
Yo ur not wrong. He did give it to you
Because of tradition so it should be returned at least you didn't try some bullshit excuse like all the other comments
My guess is it is incredibly inconsiderate of the brother and family, not the woman. Everyone should at least let her breathe and move forward from losing her life partner than forcing her into a worse off situation. Of course the ring is a family heirloom and she respects that, but as stated, it was a symbol of love between her and her late fiancè. She's not ready. She needs more time. I mean saying maybe give her a couple years at least, have they even had an unveiling yet?
Like come on?? If I had any respect and love for my sibling-in-laws, I will give them all the time they need, because we have the time. I wouldn't even consider taking their ring back because it is rightfully theirs until they no longer need it.
What we shouldn't have is lack of compassion. She was robbed of her love, she needs support. This situation is probably isolating her even further, not only losing her love but a part of her family she knew for over a damn decade.
The ring will come back where it belongs once more. She is aware she must give it back and will be taking note. Once her heart is no longer this empty void of what it once was, where she is no longer an empty shell of what she once was, she will give it back. They just need to be patient.
They don’t HAVE to give her years or any span of time that ring is a family heirloom and she isn’t family so it isn’t hers,she’s lucky they let her keep as long as they have
@@rachelwoolbert9526 How can you say shes not family after growing up with them for over a decade? What because she doesn't have that fancy piece of paper you call a marriage certificate? It's not like she just rolled up into the family for only a year. Time is valuable, snd the amount of time she spent inside that family is worth something
@@r0xdab0x96xo she isn’t part of the family tho it doesn’t matter how long she was with them,she didn’t marry into it so that ring isn’t hers and she’s being a bitch for not giving it back to the people it actually belongs to
@@rachelwoolbert9526 she was gifted that ring. She didn't break off the engagement, her Fiance died. So technically the ring is hers now.
It's out of her goodness if she returns it.
They were stupid in 1st place for gifting it before marriage.
@@jya5467 doesn’t matter she didn’t marry into the family thus she isn’t family and that ring isn’t hers,the engagement still ended
Please, for your own peace and your love for this young man, give it to his mother. Think about the memories she has with members of her family and how it must feel.
Just my opinion : You're not wrong to want to keep the ring. You've suffered a major loss of a person very very dear to you and you're not ready to move on just yet. I would say keep that ring until you're ready to move on. When you are, give it up.
They also lost a son and a brother and now because of her, they are going to lose a tradition. She is in the wrong.
You are absolutely wrong. When I got my husbands great-grandmother's ring I knew that had anything happened to us or him its the family's ring. Not personally mine. Thankfully that hasn't happened and it will be passed down to one of our children. That is the deal with all family heirlooms.
I think she is in the right, when your child marries someone they’re a part of the family now. I’ve seen relationships where the parent doesn’t like the partner but if you love your child you should be able to respect them and support them and the people they love. Now that the partner is a part of the family the parent should love them unconditionally and support them as a part of the family even if the son/daughter has passed. She and the mom should be bonding, they are women all women should support, respect, and love each other especially if they are family in any type of way.
Im sorry for your lost and i couldn't imagine how you feel. I also want to say this as nicely as i can...i know your torn and hurt, but i dont think the mom is wrong. Imagine how long that ring has been in there family, even though you said you would give it back im sure there worried you may not keep your word. NOT saying your untrustworthy, but grieving is a timely process you may never feel ready to give it back, and oviously life throws us curve balls. They could of been more sensative, but i think everyone deals with things differently. So , come up with a compromise. But please give it back thats there family's memories and heritage. Again i wish you the best and hope there is amazing new begginings in your future. Put yourself in there shoes, be the bigger person💚. And again I only know what you said in this 30 second clip. So, it's my opinion from that.
Morally yeah. Legally? The ring is hers. She never has to give it back.
Also she reads other people's stories. This isn't her own.
Please keep in mind this is my opinion, and the only information source I have is a 30 second long video explaining the situation.
I think they should give it back to the family. Sure they are grieving but so is the family. Plus, it's a family heirloom. It's been in the family for generations upon generations.
Even though I do agree the brother and mother were being pretty harsh, can we blame them?
Oh so, since my brother died, I don't suppose you would like, give me your ring of engagement, would you? I mean, your not actually in the family so... yeah, no big deal, right?..... what the hecc is this family's problem? So insensitive
I say give it back. Honestly she’s not technically family. She don’t have children that she can pass it on too. I would prefer to keep it in the family
As said, he GAVE you the ring..
Anyone else think that once a gift is given its rude to give it back under any circumstances (unless it's causing someone pain, like something they are allergic or sensitive to etc)
My "friend" thinks that if she gave me something, she can just take it Back from me because it's "still hers"
Honestly, I don't give anything back, and our friendship it's going to be over soon, lol
Like, she doesn't even respects me, I don't see a reason to keep being friends with her.
It’s not a simple gift. It’s ownership is based on the contract of marriage. Since they never married, the ring belongs to the man’s family. Also, it’s a family heirloom. It would be weird to take that out of their lineage. Her husband to be died, but their son died too.
Im sorry but I think you should give it back. An engagement ring is a gift in promise that you will marry him. If the wedding never took place the contract is broken and voided. Im looking at this from a legal point of view . The law says the ring goes back to the family. I can understand why they want it back because I have my family rings and if they got out of the family I would be crushed. They are family heirlooms and belong with his family. .just my opinion
Where do you live? That's not the law every where. Every one of the 50 states of the United States has different laws. That is just one country. I can't even imagine all the laws for all the regions of the world.
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@@SBeth92 love your videos but you should at least give credit to the person who have you the story so people don't think that all these happened to you
Since there were no children in my opinion it belongs to the family because they were never married.
Okay but what would his brother would've used if he was alive..? Like are you really about to snatch a ring from a widow, just include her in family functions and such and she'll feel like a part of the family and might even be open to giving it up
If it's a family thing and it is like a heirloom kinda thing your in the wrong but you might be hurting still and if that's the case keep it a bit longer but I would say if possible try to give it back
You have a long life in front of you. By returning the ring you can actually think forward. There is no right or wrong answer to this. But it’s their family tradition which for you I believe is your family too so give it back happily, however they do not consider you their family and you deserve better treatment and happiness in life so look forward to happiness and keep great memories and don’t let them ruin your memories over a ring. It’s not worth it.
Omg give them back their family ring! If they take you to court not only will you be embarrassed but you're going to have to give back their family ring anyway
Sorry for your loss, imagine the loss to his mom, she loss a son that she can never replaced or see again, please give back the ring, it’s a heirloom and belongs to the family
I mean I’m sorry for her truly but the mom is right in this situation. “I don’t feel like giving the ring up now” isn’t a good enough reason. If you were married it’ll be completely different but u weren’t and rightly so the ring does belong in that family. Just give it back...
I personally would give the ring back coz you weren’t married into the family. Since the ring was passed on as a tradition why don’t you give it back, keeping it is so tacky imo.
I can't believe everybody keeps saying that he was her husband. She did not marry him, she did not have children with him. Not married until you put a ring on it.
He did put a ring on it 😂 they want it back
Keep itt
Idiottt
No I don't think your wrong. You want to keep a piece of something that your husband gave you. They need to take a breather and back off. They need to understand that your still hurt by your husband's passing. They need to be sympathetic. I'm on your side.
If I was the brother's fiance, would I want "that" ring? I'm just sayin'..... I wouldn't want to make you feel "torn" just so I could get engaged. Nope, I wouldnt. What would your finance want? He gave it to you for a reason..for a forevermore.
She's foul for keeping someone else's family heirloom.
No it's yours Keep it
I understand this is a serious topic, but the fact that the vid be like “☺️👺☺️👺☺️👺☺️👺😃👺 “ is HILARIOUS
I feel like she should give the ring back, the weren't married just engaged and that ring belongs to their family as much as it may suck.
Shes right. Bc he passed its a resemblance of him. Also that ring holds so many memories
No, you should keep the girl don’t worry about what they say you’re on the right because just it was your loved and his mom should not treat you like that. You should be treated better. I’m glad you didn’t give up the ring❤
You are 100% NOT wrong for wanting to keep the ring. I would want to keep it to you are not ready to give it up yet and they should respect that.
Do a lot of wax
What an absolutely heartless thing to say to someone, “well because you didn’t technically get married, but we’re ‘’married’ in every sense of the word, you aren’t part of the family.”
How fucking cruel.
The fact that this is literally the plot to an episode of virgin river 💀
now, as a woman, who's lost someone important to me, I'd rip apart anyone who tried to take a memory of that person away, especially one given to me by them... but as a sister and a daughter who knows what it's like to have someone steal valuables from my family.... that ring isn't yours, girl. suggest his family exchange some of his personal things so you can keep a memory of him and give the ring back. you won't have his kids to pass the ring to them. it's not right.
Honestly, I can see both sides of this situation.
She should absolutely give the ring back.
I'm sorry. But if it is a family heirloom, you need to give it back.
My son gave my engagement ring to his fiancee. When they divorced 8 years later, she gave it back.
This is a difficult situation. I understand both sides. I think the ring should stay in the family tho but think she needs time to grieve.
That ring represents the LOVE you have for your boyfriend. Keep it forever. No take backs by a family member.
Yeah, but you know what else that ring represents? A family’s ENTIRE HISTORY OF LOVE. The sentimental value of that ring to her is paltry compared the sentimental value it holds to the late fiancé’s family. While the way the family went about getting it back was definitely wrong, she would also be in the wrong if she were to keep the ring (which she suggested she wouldn’t). She should be allowed to return the ring in her own time, or maybe bargain with to family to make a nice compromise, but just because it was a symbol of her love with her fiancé doesn’t give her the right to keep the ring forever. It was also a symbol of the mother’s love with her husband, and it will be a symbol of the brother’s love with his girlfriend, her love shouldn’t be the only one that matters in this scenario.
The right thing would be to give the ring back. It is a family heirloom and you are not now nor have you ever been a part of that family. He is gone. Return the ring and move forward.
The ring is yours. It was a gift to you. Possession is 9/10 of the law.
It's a family heirloom it's meant to be passed down to their children and she never mentioned they had any so it would lose its meaning as an heirloom if she just kept it for herself
U keep that ring just bc he died doesn’t mean he would want u to give it back it is one thing if it was a divorced but he died
Yes, the ring belongs to the family not you. Imagine 1 year later: you found someone new what'll you do with ring then, keep in a box. You didn't even think of returning the ring back until the brother came forward. I understand that it means so much to you but that ring means a lot more to that family. You only lost BF, they lost brother, a son, friend.
Give that man and his family that ring back 😩
Girl I agree
He gave it to you cause he wanted you to have it
Girl I get the rings pretty and you wanna keep it but it’s there’s they had it for generations you gotta give it back
I understand why she kept it.good for her!
Yes, give that dang ring back
Him dying doesn't change that she married into the family. It doesn't change that if she changed her last name, she has the family's last name
I feel you should give it back considering it’s a whole family heirloom.
It’s a half half situation, I understand where she’s coming from and they didn’t need to say such rude things to her, but also it is a family ring and someone had given up that ring for her in the first place
It simple, absolutely you should not give it back until you ready
Yes, because it’s their family ring and they have been passing it down for generations, and you have nothing to do with that family anymore, but no, because you loved him and he gave it to you❤
I feel so bad for you I hope you are okay 😊
I'm a girl
I think you should keep the ring until your ready to share it back to the family
It’s yours. It was GIVEN to you without any expectation of returning it ever. Just because he passed before you said I do doesn’t forfeit that gift
Yeah but it's a family heirloom that is meant to be passed down. They never married so she's not a part of the family and therefore should give it back
Girl keep the ring
I feel bad for her and obviously what they said was disrespectful but it’s a family heirloom if she doesn’t have a kid with him how is she meant to pass it down to the next generation and his bro also had a right to the ring is he not part of the family too
How can someone have a right to a thing that has already been given out. She is part of the family no matter what happens because they were married common law. So the ring is in the family where it belongs. If they were so into their family and keeping what's in the family actually IN the family, they would be bringing the widow closer supporting her and honoring her as the love of their son/brothers life.
@@sg-cg6lr they weren't married though he was her fiancé and they had no children to give it to which is the whole point of a family heirloom
I think she’s in the right bc she’s mourning and maybe that’s the only thing connecting her to her husband who’s passed. At least let her keep it for a few years until she’s ready to let it go. After all if her husband was still alive she would be keeping it anyways. They’re wrong for expecting her to give up such a meaningful thing after his passing.
This story is just crazy 😝
You should keep the ring till your dating
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I know your grieving but no I don't believe you should have the ring. You're not his wife you weren't married, he died for you got married. It family heirloom so I don't think you have any right to keep the ring. If I was the mother or the family I probably knock on your door or get a court order.
They should sue, she doesn't actually have a right to keep it.
i see both sides, it is yours and they should respect you wanting to have that part of him with you. then again, it is their family and it makes sense for the brother to get the ring because it is his families artifact, but they can't just take it from you, especially if you have told them your side.😊
I mean, yeah, you CAN keep the ring, but it's an important part of their family heritage to pass that ring on, unless you already have a kid with your fiance it's kind of messed up to hold onto it and end generations of tradition. I'm sorry for your loss, but personally I think you should give it back
So sad, do what makes you happy. Want to keep the ring because it makes you happy, want to give it back, do it when you are ready.
Yeah but this is a family heirloom she can't just " keep it cause it makes her happy ", if it was a regular engagement ring than yeah she can keep it as long as she wants but family heirlooms are for family.
@@hufflepuffler2575 it is an object, the importance it has, is not what others give to them, it is what you give it once it is in your hands. If this is a happy reminder of what her loved one gave to her; keep it as a happy reminder, but I absolutely understand the term family heirloom, it´s an object that has transcended time in the family members. If it was me, I would gladly return it to the family, cause...every time I would look at it, I would have the uncomfortable feeling that I removed an important family object, and I would know that their grandma is angry, mom is angry, borthers are angry, family is angry...for that kind of energy I would just give it back, knowing that returning will make a lot of people happy to have it back. Not because it is a family heirloom but because it would make them happy, it has more meaning to them and that should be respected.
That's a very tricky line. I don't think anyone is in the wrong. You just both have your different reasons. I feel like it's wrong they are treating you that way though and don't seem to care about you that you were their son's fiance. Seems like they never considered you part of the family to begin with if they have this big of a problem with it. I understand not ready to give up the ring YET, but I do sort of agree they would like to keep it in the family. It's a very delicate line to cross.
I was not trying to be rude I was just voicing my opinion and I am deeply sorry for your loss
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Girl give the ring back. U don’t need a ring to remember someone. People take material possessions too seriously.
I would've said I lost it and that this is MY ring HE BOUGHT me 👁🫦👁
I understand how they both feel, it's her choice though at this point so she should give it back when she's ready and get an exact replica made of it for sentimental reasons!
It was given with the intention of marriage, which never happened. If they really want to press the issue. The courts would rule against you.
I know it hurts... but u don't need a ring to keep him in ur heart...it's just material...I say give it to them...bcz u will be out of this...just think that ring gave you good memories and u don't want to make those memories fade away with this drama when u think of you and him and ring... ❤️
Don't think like that you know your right and your rights
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